Wednesday Bird Droppings
by j.q. higgins on Jan 18, 2012 7:48 AM EST
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PrintIf you haven't read Eat More Esskay's piece on arbitration and the ensuing discussion, I'd recommend it. Other quick items of note: the O's signed Armando (the guy with the ump-botched perfecto) Galaragga to a minor league contract; Rick Peterson and Wei-Yin Chen are now officially in the organization. Joe Saunders is officially not.
Orioles: Roberts officially out of FanFest - baltimoresun.com Sigh...(Dan Duquette was not made available for comment),
Orioles' Chen expects big things in upcoming MLB season - The China Post Chen was officially unveiled yesterday. Although, the O's haven't really had a lot of international signings, how common is an overseas introduction and press conference?
Could Tampa Bay learn from Cal Ripken's stadium snub in Sarasota? | wtsp.com Again, sigh.
Camden Depot: Kyle Hudson's Draft Excluded Status Crawdaddy clears up any lingering Hudson confusion. Does anyone besides me care?
Since I started talking about Curt Flood and the reserve clause Monday, I'll mention that on this day in 1896, John Montgomery Ward successfully bucked the reserve clause and was awarded free agency after being shelved by the New York Giants for two years.
It's a big day for Orioles birthdays: Scottie McGregor, Brady Anderson, Brandon Fahey and Kevin McGehee were all born on this day (different years, natch).
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I think Armando will fit right in...
I got excited for a second and curious when we signed a guy who was robbed of a perfect game to a minor league contract, then I look at his stats. 5.91 ERA last year and gave up 13 HR in 8 games. I might not know the advanced pitching stats, but it sounds like he’s a great fit for this Orioles organization and I can’t wait to see him out there!
I always admired how he handled that situation though.
So at the very least, if he ends up starting a number of games for the Orioles, I don’t have to feel personal hatred a la Gregggggg
No one cares about Kyle Hudson because he is a non-factor on this or any other ML team
Also, we already have Matt Angle who has basically the same skillset but is a bit better.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
Sadly, rules pertaining to roster management interests me.
by crawdaddy on Jan 18, 2012 8:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
and you're my fact checkin cuz.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 18, 2012 8:22 AM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
I thought it was interesting, too. I also used to think Joe Jordan was a good drafter, but I don’t think so anymore. Why this guy was taken fourth (IIRC) is beyond me.
Still holding out hope for those 2009 pitchers, however, especially now under Peterson.
Jordan had types of player he liked
speedy center fielders with questionable power were one of them for sure.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Seems like a bright idea
to limit yourself by having “types” rather than drafting the best player available every time your pick comes up.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'm not sure that's a particularly fair way of looking at it
but I’m in no mood to argue the point, really.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Who knows if it is
but your comment seemed to imply it which is what I was responding to.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I think by focusing on a certain type of player you wind up artificially reducing the available talent. This becomes much worse if others are looking for that talent as well. Look how bad it was when teams only targetted college guys. I think this is especially true in the middle rounds as the level of talent quickly declines.
by crawdaddy on Jan 18, 2012 12:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just by appearing in a major league game
He has already had a better career than most players chosen in the 4th round of any given draft. After the first round (first pick, really) the baseball draft is really a crapshoot to a large extent.
by Reboulet's Moustache on Jan 18, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
He's only appeared in a major league game
because of the absolute craptastic organization that drafted him.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Even the Yankees have September roster scrubs.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
They don't tend to look like Kyle Hudson though.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
someone put up that gif from the yankees
where Ramiro Pena and Eduardo Nunez can’t field a routine grounder to third.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I'm betting Kyle Hudson can't field a routine grounder at third either.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Seek and ye shall find...
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
At least they don't look like 15 year olds.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
The best part is they're playing interleague so this happened in the summer, not September.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
That's definitely the worst part.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Putting on my English major cape...
(Yes, we get capes. It’s a fair exchange for limited employment options.)
Galarraga: two R’s, one G. Well, two G’s, but let’s not get bogged down in that.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
They may as well try to be a superhero, they ain't gonna get a job with an English major.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
2R2G4A
Doesn’t quite have the ring of 3E1N.
by Holymittens on Jan 18, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Justified is back! Justified is back!
nowhere else can I get lines like “I have to get back to watching women’s tennis”
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Depending on who is playing, I watch women's tennis.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions
Women's sports are terrible to watch
I think tennis is the only one I could watch for more than a minute. Maybe golf.
You're terrible to watch!
I like women’s tennis, but I just flat out find golf boring to watch.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 18, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Well do u play golf?
Golf, i agree, is boring. If you play seriously or follow the sport closely it is much better to watch on TV (Much like baseball). Golf in HD is awesome and the landscapes and such are really sweet to see.
Yes, I do play golf.
And I agree that HD was a major boon to watching the sport. But I just find it boring to watch on TV.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 18, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll occasionally watch the majors now. When my grandparents were alive, my dad, grandpa and I would end up watching golf pretty often. (And then playing Intellivision golf, usually)
I have gone to one golf event in person. It was a charity tournament with only 8 (I think) guys in it. I think it was basically billed as “Jim Furyk and Friends”, but it included Phil Mickelson, David Duval, and I think John Daly. So people could wait at a whole and watch each foursome go buy and relax but be bored most of the time, or they could do a lot of walking and follow the golfers around the whole time, as my boss and I opted to do.
As boring as it can be on TV, it really seemed much better on TV than in person.
I have never been to an event in person.
I do enjoy watching a handful of players on TV and the majors. If tiger is in contention for any tournament i will watch.
So, um...
Everybody’s blacked out today across the web.
Would SOPA basically prevent Camden Chat from operating, because it primarily serves as a portal to other websites?
I wrote to my representatives.
Google, wiki, firefox, etc. are making it extremely easy to contact your reps and sign petitions. I think this is a great idea and hope that it will alert people to the proposed legislation that would otherwise not have known.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
To avoid the blackouts, just stop your browser as soon as the pages load.
You’ll avoid those stupid awareness messages.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
Hey, that actuall works.
However, I don’t consider the awareness messages stupid. As duck points out, bad legislation is bad. People need to be aware of what the consequences of such legislation would be.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 18, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
google search engine still works
As does gmail.
That’s all I need.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Pretty much as soon as someone linked to another site (or posted any content or image) ...
any site on the internet could be shut down in the US under SOPA/PIPA. It’s bad lawmaking, no matter if you agree/disagree with the intent.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I agree.
I don’t think it’s a stretch to claim that very few senators actively use the internet the way most people do. To anyone who uses the internet, the ramifications of this should be immediately clear. It would shut down google. So, basically the entire internet. But because they don’t themselves use the internet in the same way, they don’t realize this.
This is why I'm not too worried about these bills.
It would shut down google. So, basically the entire internet.
They won’t let it happen. Not that that stopped me from sending emails to senators and representitives (even though I don’t know who represents me.)
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
It's not dead at all. It will be discussed in the beginning of Feb.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Has he?
All I heard was that the White House technology division was opposed to it.
That doesn’t mean shit.
by Holymittens on Jan 18, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
I've heard what DaveAA said too.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
All I've heard is that he opposes it
He said he opposed the NDAA 2012 bill and yet that didn’t get a veto.
by Holymittens on Jan 18, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know what that is.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
You know the bill that said that the President can have people indefinitely arrested without a trial?
That one.
by Holymittens on Jan 18, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Huh, that sucks.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Let's also be fair.,,
NDAA is an annual sppropriations bill, I can’t think of the last time a President fucked with the bill during his reelection bid. Most of the controversial language was not new going back to 2002.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 18, 2012 12:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Streaming porn sites would be toast under this law
This is serious business people! Sign the petition!!!
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
If anything stops a senator or congressperson from voting for these laws...
… their inability to stream porn will be the reason.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 18, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
agreed.
it needs to be stopped.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 18, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Sounds like one from the Frank Zappa files
“We are a nation of laws, poorly written and randomly enforced.”
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
I think a site like CC would be mostly OK, on the whole.
Nobody would be allowed to post gifs or jpegs though. Like, the overlords would probably end up telling us we have to ban people who post them. No matter how funny they are.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
From The Oatmeal on SOPA (with permission)
WARNING! Heavy GIF!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I wrote an angry letter to Mikulski, Cardin, and Donna Edwards
Comparing SOPA/PIPA to the Red Scare. I was pretty proud of it.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
No bobbleheads this season!!!! :*(
Instead, we get replica statues of Murray, Robinson(s), Ripken, Weaver, and Palmer.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Correction!
Also, for the first time, fans will get to choose who is turned into a bobblehead with Fan’s Choice Bobblehead set for Sat. 9/29
Brendan Harris for bobblehead!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Is he still on the team?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
No, he's a Rockie
but still…
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Amber.... bobblehead.... um, I'll take two.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Seconded.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Can we have some other part bobble besides the head?
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I think a Guthrie bobble is long overdue
either that or another one of those awesome double bobbles like the Palmer-Weaver one (maybe a Cal and Billy turning two, or Cal and Eddie drinking champagne?)
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
or Jim Palmer and Gary Thorne
Gary’s glass of scotch can wobble
by Stacey on Jan 18, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How bout we get a good team and have bobble heads of current stars?
How long are we gonna be resigned to celebrating legends in promos? Are we still gonna be getting Brooks jerseys in 2040? How bout a 90th anniversary of the ’70 Worlds Series commemorative button?
/grumblegrumble
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
How about we make bobbles of our terrible players
to drive home the point that we are a pathetic organization? I’m voting Chris Davis.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Felix Pie!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sure that wasn't the plan...
But it sure as hell was true last year for the Matusz giveaway.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 18, 2012 12:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think I have every bobble
Since 2002, even the Slammin Sammy Sosa (in a pre-Markakis #21), and I’m pretty much convinced they need to do a Brady bobble (climbing the wall?) and Guthrie. Guess that ain’t happening.
When the Nationals did this two years ago, they chose Pudge. If we re-sign Koji, that would be a good choice.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 18, 2012 12:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My earliest stadium give away bobble is palmer/weaver (and it might be the best)
off the top of my head, I also have: Melmo&BRob (and the super rare “black” BRob), Cal catching the last out of the 83 WS, AJ, Markakis, the Reimold/Markakis/Jones mini trio, Wieters, and Buck. I haven’t even unpacked them since moving though.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
The Weaver/Palmer is excellent.
I have a “white” BRob, the error version is difficult to track down. My Melmo has an upside-down Old Bay container, I wonder how common that is.
I think my favorite is probably the Oriole bird from like 2002 I believe or the talking Rick Dempsey. I have way too many bobbleheads and I’m freaking out because my kids is going to notice them up on the bookcase one of these days. I need to install really high shelves in the basement to keep them safe.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 19, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
I haz a sad...
The Orioles have done some nice bobbles in the past but I think they probably don’t want to risk the suck that was last years giveaways.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 18, 2012 12:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Two years running with a bobblehead player in the minors, or whatever.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe they should see if it works in reverse
and announce a bobble head night for bundy and machado and they will play well enough to be called up that day.
anybody else going to attempt to get single game tickets when they go on sale at 10?
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Opening Day in this?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
If it is, then yes, I might be attempting to get tickets.
I actually want to go to opening day this year if I can spare the PTO.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
I've gone 4 years in a row now, but I usually end up having to pull strings with the ticket office at the Pentagon.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Which is a pain in the ass I meant to say.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Well pull your strings and get me a ticket.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
Um, yeah, what he said
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I'll buy you a crabcake or something before the game.
You being WW…not you, duck.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
I'll wait and see what they get.
I think I paid like $40/ticket last year and was about 10 rows behind 3rd base. One year it was club level for $35. The promotions always differ. I was only able to get 4 the past couple years but maybe I can try and finagle a friend to sign up for 4 too or something. They usually get like 50 total I think but fortunately it’s not too competitive down there for them.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone getting the presale to actually have any tickets available?
I used a presale code, but no seats are being shown as available.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Same
No dice.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Now it won't even let me enter the pre-sale code
EPIC fail by the O’s and TM
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I got it to work for Monday vs the Yankees
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
I got two front row bleacher seats vs. the MFY on Monday for $45
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
You can't enter the code using a rotary phone, Duck
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Jan 18, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ha ha
Seriously, anyone get OD tickets using this yet?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
No.
Haven’t tried for any other games either.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Not working for OD
It is for other dates.
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come on, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Jan 18, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
This
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Also
Using the main website page is much cooler. It has every single set still available in dot form, and you can just drag across the ballpark like a google map and pick what you want.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
That's awesome!
I hate when you have to do the “search for tickets” and they give you some crappy section when you know there are much better seats available.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
well now it's not working for me...
I don’t know what I did the first time, if anyone figures it out let us know.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Yea...didn't work for me either.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
I can't imagine they're selling OD tickets right now
They never do, they try to hold out and make people buy packages.
But it said pre-sale!!!!
I know, you’re right. I really wanted to see OD this year. Sigh…
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
i don't think OD tix
are released to the public until this Sat. i got mine yesterday since I’m a season plan holder.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 18, 2012 11:09 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
What he said.
We were able to buy ours starting yesterday, I think my rep told me that the public can purchase them on Saturday.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 18, 2012 12:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They won't even be available then I would think
They do this every year and don’t put OD tickets up for sale with the rest. And every year people are perplexed.
I got my OD tickets on Christmas morning as part of the holiday four pack.
it looks like Opening Day is included
i feel like in the past they’ve done it separately, guess we’ll find out in 15 minutes
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Is it through ticketmaster or straight off the Os website.
Sorry, I know, google it… but Im packed right now.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
i got an e-mail from the O's, but it looks like it's in conjunction with Ticketmaster like usual
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I refuse to use ticketmaster.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Why?
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
One...the fees are monumental.
And two, they have awful customer service and refuse to admit that their servers can’t handle the traffic that occurs when event tickets go on sale.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
I am paying to see the Baltimore Orioles. I have to pay to pay to see them?
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 18, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Especially since teams like the O's have scalpers where they give away seats for nothing.
There is no reason to pay fees. Even the stubhub fee is high, but I’ll pay that over what ticketmaster charges.
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by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I always go for stubhub.
I can stomach the fee when the seats themselves are so cheap. I got 2nd row seats last season (august, I believe) where the fee was higher than the cost of the tickets. $9 total I believe.
Yeah but this doesn't apply for Opening Day
Or certain prime Yankees/Red Sox games. Any random Tuesday night game you can get awesome seats for next to nothing using CL/scalpers/stubhub
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
last june against the rays
i got second row behind home plate. 2 tickets for 38 dollars on stubhub, best deal ever.
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by Parkinglotninja on Jan 18, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
38 total??
Wow. I’ve really gotta be more alert with the stubhubs this season.
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by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
yeah total.
game was at 7. i bought them at 3:30 and jumped in the car. theres always some good eals floating around the day of the game.
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by Parkinglotninja on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, it's 10 on Saturday, right?
http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/ticketing/singlegame.jsp?c_id=bal
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Opening Day is a Friday
That’s awesome
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Heck yes!
I’m going. Gonna make this happen.
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by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
They're starting at home and don't have the day two off day
that’s awesome. Nothing worse than getting all pumped up for baseball, seeing one game, and then having an off day.
Only one weekend series against the Yanks/Sox before September
You think they did this on purpose to keep those assholes to a minimum at the yard?
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Oh and that's an away series, nevermind
So no home series against them until September
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
I'd think not
We may hate the invasion, but you think the O’s love the extra ticket revenue
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Actually if it is a home series in september
they probably did it because by that point the most seats will be available for the yankees fans. Any earlier and the yankees fans risk losing seats to Orioles fans.
and yet two home weekend series each against the A's and Royals?
that shit is kinda whack
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Ha...probably.
But doesn’t the MLB set the schedule? They’d probably think they were doing the Orioles a favor by helping them get “sellouts.”
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by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
weekend series
vs the Phils in June though. OPACY will be filled to the gills for that one for sure.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 18, 2012 11:08 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Great!! /heavy sarcasm/
My favorite fanbase!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
I just got 10 tickets to the Sunday game, opening weekend front row section 98 row 7-17
Any CCers in section 98 or the Eutaw zone?
Would be great to meet some of you guys in person!
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by OriolesOptimist on Jan 18, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Ahh, the life of a professional athlete
Dwyane Wade got a SICK $230,000 sports car at his 30th birthday party in Miami this weekend — but the most impressive part of the gift is how it was AIRLIFTED into the hotel pool without a scratch. The car is a brand new 2012 McLaren MP4-12C — given to him for FREE by the owner of a local luxury car dealership. Wade is the brand ambassador for that particular dealership.
Why did they put the car in the hotel pool?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Because putting it in his bedroom would have been just ridiculous.
Jeez, don’t you ever think?!?!
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 18, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Well....I'm here every day.
Whether I’m working or not depends on the day.
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by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Today is the deadline for the Rangers to sign Yu Darvish.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
5 PM EST
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Do you think this is actually gonna happen?
I’m starting to lean towards it not happening.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I think that if it doesn't ahppen it's because they decide that they'd rather have Fielder.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
it will happen
at 4:48
THEN they’ll go get Fielder
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I kinda like that teams are going nuts spending money so that the Yanks and Soxs can't just but ALL the players anymore
but I don’t think I can like a big money team from Texas for very long
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
It's all that oil money man...
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, this was always destined to go down to the wire.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
If they don't agree to terms...
Does he automatically go back to Japan, or can other teams then bid on him and start the process over again?
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
I think he's an FA next year. Maybe two.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Don't know if there'd be a posting process next year though.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I am so happy Chen has those intagibles like fighting through adversity
I hate all those guys who have press conferences and our GMs say “Well he handles adversity terribly and he really doesn’t have any drive to win but man look at his stuff!”
Any info on the Bistro Tables?
They seem to be new for this year. Any pics? Is the price per person, or per table (table seats four)?
So here's a question
which player(s) are you guys actually excited to see this year? Last year, there was a probable consensus on the excitement of seeing Zach Britton. Before that Matusz, Arrieta, Wieters, and so on. What about this year? Is this a team that you’re looking forward to seeing (beyond just getting to watch baseball again)?
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Wieters again for the most part.
Seeing Reynolds hit all those dingers was fun. And I don’t think I could be an Orioles fan if I hadn’t developed a taste for being hopelessly optimistic about young pitchers.
Chen, for sure
at least that’s true now, while he’s something of an unknown.
And I really got to enjoy watching Reynolds last year
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Jan 18, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wieters, Wada, Chen
Really interested to see how the Japanese free agents perform in the rotation. Wanna see Koji back in Baltimore as well.
After your hard-hitting interview yesterday, I'm excited to see Chen
Wieters definitely as I think he has the best chance at drastic improvement. If we were given a report that Reimold would be an every day starter and not part of some weird platoon with Davis/Chavez/whatever, that would make me happy also.
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
JJ Hardy,Wieters, and Reynolds for me.
The new pitchers we’ve acquired and not trying to rush things but id love to see Schoop one day soon.
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by Parkinglotninja on Jan 18, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I'm bummed about JJ Hardy
at what I see as an inevitable regression.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
This.
He’ll be interesting to watch. Will he hit or will he not?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree.
If he stays healthy (BIIIIG if), he could repeat or even improve. His power went up at the expense of his plate discipline so maybe he will be less power, more patience.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
he only played 120 games
20 more games by him even without 30 bring will be a plus. years when he is healthy he has been a stud ss
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 11:34 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm certainly expecting it
but I also really liked watching him play SS.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Arrieta & Wieters.
Maybe Chen if he gets off to a good start.
Strop and Antonelli (if he makes the team) are both players I’m interested in seeing their development but not really excited.
I’m really looking forward to seeing if Jake comes back strong from his surgery and starts amtching his #3 potential. I have high hopes for him this year.
It’s always fun to watch SHJ get better and better. Just think if he’s significantly better this year than last!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
To answer the second question, yes.
I think we were better than our results last year. A rotation of Guts, Chen, healthy Arrieta, Britton and Hunter/healthy Matusz/ Wada/ Simon is a big improvment over last year. Also not having Pie in LF or Vlad DHing or batting cleanup (G-d damnit) all year and not having Gregg not pitching in high-leverage situations means we’ve improved across the board, no doubt.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Haha yes
I am most excited about NOT seeing 400+ AB’s from a player who was good in 2005.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
You make do with what you got
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah. I think he's the super super depth on this rotation.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
haha
he will be good once we’ve blown out our bullpen and our starters are only going 4 innings by june
Eveland will be one of those starters only going 4 innings.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I havent understood some of the high innings guys
Eveland was picked up as a guy who pitches a ton of innings even though the rest of his stats are bad. Is this because he doesn’t take a ton of pitches to get to 6+ innings. So his bonus is that he efficiently gives up more runs with fewer pitches thrown and can therefore pitch more innings?
The whole rotation really.
Beyond that, Wieters and Markakis.
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by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
I'll answer to
I can’t say I’m excited for the team as a whole (because I don’t think they’ll be good, but hey, you never know, right?) but the one player II’m most eager to see is Brian Matusz. Wei-Yin Chen makes a strong second, and weirdly my favorite current Oriole might be Jim Johnson.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Yea....Guthrie, Jim Johnson and Markakis are battling it out for my favorite Oriole.
I personally don’t think this whole “let’s go get every single player from Asia” strategy is going to make any difference.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I think the upside of it is maybe flipping them for prospects (especially Chen)
if they’re good
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Yea...possibly.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Chen has a lot of potential and he's signed for 3 very cheap years
if he makes the transition.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I've got less optimism than I've ever had going into an Orioles season...
but I’m looking forward to seeing Matt Wieters continue to develop and to see whether any of the young starters bounce back.
I'm not looking forward to seeing this team
This is probably the worst I’ve felt going into a season for quite some time. That’s saying something.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
The best I can muster for this year is, "Well, maybe they'll suck a LITTLE bit less..."
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I think we're in the best shape of our lives!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
As we've said before
I don’t mind sucking if we’re making progress. People are jaded because last year was just sucking period.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Wieters and Britton again
I’m excited to see what a healthy Arrieta is capable of. I’m exciting to see if Matusz has remembered how to throw a baseball. I’m actually excited to see what our new Asian contingent can do. I’m excited to see if Nicky will get ANY extra-base hits this year.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Johnny Damon
or Manny Ramirez.
Oh, wait…that’s the opposite of what you asked.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 18, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
So what's the bullpen this year?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
pick seven guys:
Gregg, Johnson, Berken, Bergesen, Vanden Hurk, Rapada, O’Day, Strop, Tillman, Hunter, Wada, Eveland, Drake, Patton, Phillips, Simon, and any free agents you care to add.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Did we resign Rapada?
I must have missed that one.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
yes
but unfortunately the Orioles did not grab the bull by horns and also sign Clay Zavada.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
So replace Patton with Rapada in my answer
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Do any of these guys have options and can start in AAA?
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by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not 100% on it
but Drake, Berken, and Bergesen might and/or should have options
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Yea...I don't see many of those guys making through waivers.
Even with their crapiness.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
there are also some minor leaguers who could conceivably fit in
Steve Johnson, Cole McCurry, Armando Galarraga, Pat Egan, Wynn Pelzer, Willie Eyre, and Sean Gleason immediately leap to mind. Though of course none of them are exactly likely to be on the OD roster.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
With all that mediocrity
This should seriously be a bullpen that anyone can play their way into. No one with the exception of maybe JJ should be assured a spot.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I'm hoping
JJ
Strop
Patton (LOOGY)
Wada
Gregg (mop-up)
Simon
O’Day.
I might be forgetting someone but I think that’s decent at the end with good long men in it (Wada LHP, Simon RHP)
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Bergen had one bad year
are we giving up on him?
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 11:21 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Berken or Bergesen?
No and Yes
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
so question
How does a team with a bazillion potential starters get everyone the work they need in spring training? we have guts, britton, Chen, wada, eveland, hunter, arrietta, matusz, tillman all competing for five spots. are we gonna run a 5 day rotation in spring training? if so, how does anyone prove they should be in the rotation? And if you tun longer than a five men rotation, it hurts everyone getting ready for the season, especially the Japanese guys who have to adjust to one day less rest.
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 11:20 AM EST via Android app reply actions
and Brad bergeson!
one more guy fighting for a spot
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 11:22 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
3E1N!
Bergesen
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
My answer
is that we really shouldn’t be basing the rotation on the extremely small sample and inconsistent opposition of spring training games. You need to get them all innings, but the rotation should be set mainly using existing info, not ST numbers.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I agree with this sentiment in a vacuum
but I don’t think that’s the way to go about it this year for the O’s – too many unknowns at this time. Is Matusz back to himself? Is Arrieta healthy? Can Tillman break 90? Are Chen/Wada up for the task of a 5 day rotation? Not all of those questions can be answered in ST, but some of them can and probably need to be before any decisions are made.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
at the start of the grapefruit league
there are a lot of innings to go around. You usually see scrubs playing by the 6th inning or so. I don’t think it will be difficult to get everyone work. Making the actual cuts on a weekly basis or so might be the more tricky thing, since nobody’s going to have a lot of mound time to make decisions off of. Not that ST results should be the basis for any decision making anyway.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
My guess is that not everyone on your list gets a real shot.
Guts, and Britton are locks. My guess is that Matusz, Tillman and Eveland start at Norfolk. That leaves Wada, Chen, Arrieta and Hunter to battle over 3 spots. I think it makes the most sense to put Wada in the pen as a long reliever/ spot-starter and see if Arrieta’s elbow is OK.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
In spring training?
There’s endless opportunities for work – usually there’s guys pitching many innings that nobody has ever heard of due to double headers, split squads, etc. Also nobody is throwing substantial innings in spring training until the very end when the rotation will likely have shaken out already.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Maryland flag floppy hat is one of the promos this year.
I am SO there at that game.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 11:40 AM EST reply actions
Gah.
Friday nights are hard for me to get into B’more. Much less be one of the first 15,000 fans.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Oh I have the time, but I've got some other things planned for it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Well...I'll likely be in Europe the two weeks before that.
Not sure how much time I’m gonna have left by then.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like it's eBay or bust for you.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
ebay?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it's this new internet fad where you can buy stuff.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Geez WW, get with it.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How exactly will that help me with not having enough PTO?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
It will help you procure the Wieters' replica jersey you so covet young jedi.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Oh....yea...not happening.
I’ll go without.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
why do I subject myself to ESPN first take?
Now I am wanting to throw a remote at the tv.
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 11:46 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Any clue if this replica jersey will have ads on it?
Or just how “replica” it is? If they’re giving away 15,000 of these things I can’t imagine it’s much more than a button up t-shirt
/patents button up t-shirt
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
I would guess the "presented by Real Street Staffing" or something similar will be there again.
The spot between the player’s name and the neck line. Meh. I wish they didn’t, but that’s life.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
they gave away a Markakis jersey a few years ago
I think it was a pullover, batting practice type. It was pretty nice.
I wouldn't know
:-(
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Same thing with the Brooks
Replica, which they only had in size extra medium.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 18, 2012 1:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Were these screen printed?
I figured it was, which is why I didn’t make the trip down for one. If these are sewn, I might just have to plan on coming down.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Screen printed. Might be a third-party logo as well...
The Orioles do an ass-awful job with their giveaways. The players and poses they choose for the bobbles are terribly uninteresting, especially when the Nationals order their bobbles from the same fucking company and get far superior results.
But, like a crack addict, I go every year and add them to my creepy collection of nodding head dolls in the basement.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 19, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Fangraphs live chat is on.
Help me get some O’s questions in.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
Will the Orioles make the playoffs?
Will Peter Angelos realize he’s the Al Davis of the MLB and go find a cave somewhere while relinquishing control of the team to somebody who isn’t a fossil?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Let me ask my Magic 8-Ball
It laughed at me… what does that mean?
Means you need a new Magic 8-Ball.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
If your magic 8-ball is laughing at you, I think you've done too many 8-balls.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Was it a demonic laughter?
If it was you might need to get PGA out of it first.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I called a Priest
He took a look at it, agrees with your assesment, was then named Executive Vice President of Making Sure Angelos Remains in my 8-Ball Until He Dies and Hands it Off to the Stockstill Brothers… I’m trying to get rid of it, now it’s insisting on a 20-rebuilding effort and keeps asking if me or a loved one have been diagnosed with mesothelioma…. I think you might be onto something here.
OT: Taxes
I have to file my own taxes for the first time this year (hooray adulthood!). I was hoping to see if people around here had any suggestions/recommendations as to where to go or who to go through to get them done. I talked to one friend with an accounting degree that said I could probably just use TurboTax, but I figured I’d try and solicit the wise opinion of CC first. Thanks.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
by Gamecock24 on Jan 18, 2012 1:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I’ve used TurboTax for the last 7 or 8 years and never had a problem with it. I do pay extra for Audit Defense though just in case I Oriole it up.
by BrianS on Jan 18, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Oriole it up
needs to be adopted into common use. Maybe “O it up” for short?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I was thinking the same thing
Oriole it up… brilliant. And rec’d
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
TurboTax FTW
Been using it for years.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Where do you live?
Also, what sort of form do you file? Are you single without any dependents? Do you own a home?
live in Baltimore, have no idea what I file (i got a W2 from my job), single with no dependents, just bought a house this year
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
You'll probably need to use the long form then
My mother is a tax preparer, but she works out of Waldorf. She’s also fairly cheap and very good (at one point she was doing taxes for basically the entire PG County fire department), but I don’t know if she’s accepting any new clients.
Basically, I would suggest getting a professional to assist you since you’ve bought a home, rather than going at it on your own.
Just to throw it out there
I bought a home in 2010 and also got married and had some weird stock transactions and still had pretty much no issue filing via Turbo Tax. If I were you I’d give it a shot with one of the online programs and if you run into any problems then get pro help.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Don't you want to avoid 1040EZ if you're trying to get the first time home buyer credit?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Actually...I think any homeowner would want to avoid using 1040EZ since there's a limit on your standard deduction.
I think…
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Most definitely
The mortgage interest I wrote off last year completely covered the deduction by itself. Once you own a home, I think it almost always behooves you to itemize.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Look at WW dropping the vocabulary.
“behooves” is one of my random favorite words.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
"..... like I used to do"
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
".... and in underwear ads"
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
"in Red Rock, Texas..."
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
my other favorite Jim Palmer quote
After Erik Bedard pitched a complete game in Texas with like 2 hits and 15 Ks, Gary says rhetorically, “Have you ever seen a better pitched game than that?!”
Jim: “Well, I did throw a no-hitter.”
Was Gary on the broadcast team before Bedard was traded?
It feels like he’s been around forever, but I know he wasn’t. I forget exactly when he arrived, though.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Oh Jim Palmer
I have this caricatured image of Jim Palmer in my head and then he constantly reminds me that the caricature is actually more humble than the real one.
Yup
My mortgage is almost entirely interest – excited to see what type of refund I get this year after my first full year in the house.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Mine was a little lackluster
But my wife made a shit-ton our first year of marriage which bumped us. Since the baby though, she worked about half what she did that year.
I always run into trouble filing her state return though because I claim NJ which exempts active-duty military (I lived there 5 years and it’s a legal loophole… don’t sue me fellas). But it’s always a B figuring out what to do with her tax return particularly on H&R Block’s software which tries to import everything from our federal.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
That's why you do the state taxes manually!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
It's still a B because I never can figure out a way to prorate the deductions right.
I’m delinquent two years filing her state taxes (although, I’m pretty sure we’re owed a few hundo so it shouldnt matter). Just whenever I get around to sacking up and getting it done. Damn I hate filing taxes.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Same here.
That’s why I just use the free turbo tax even though I’m pretty sure my refund would be higher if I got them done professionally.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
But
would your refund be high enough to cover the cost of having them done professionally and still leave you with more than turbo tax gets you? Seems unlikely unless you’re doing something very wrong.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yeah
I don’t see how people are “missing” all these deductions. The software is built to satisfy the dumbes among us.
“Did you buy a house in 2011?”
“Enter the mortgage interest paid.”
“Did you sell stock?”
It’s simple stuff.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
That's exactly it.
The extra refund wouldn’t cover the cost of professional help…at least not right now. I need to get better with income from investments, 401Ks, etc.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Aren't you in a roth? You shouldn't even have to worry about it.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Well I hope you're not paying any taxes on gains in your 401k!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Unless it's a non-Roth and he withdrew.
Which would be dumb.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
It was a Roth, but you're still eligible for the 10 percent penalty
I held it less than 5 years before rolling it up my current 401k.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Ahhhhh, I read it wrong in the first place anyway.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
I sold stock as well so I'm going to get hammered this year.
I pay enough as it is.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Hey
if you’re paying taxes from selling stocks you should be happy – better than the alternative.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
And don't forgot to write off your transaction fees.
E-trade was getting rich off my fickleness.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Really? You can write off transaction fees?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
business expense
like paying an accountant
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
It basically nullified the money I made off of actually selling the stock.
What’s the alternative?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Losing money on the stock!
How did it nullify it? Even the short term rate is taxed as normal income, so at most you’re paying like 30ish percent of the gain.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Heck year you can write em off.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn't losing money...just using it to sell options :-)
Stock didn’t move much while I owned it (which is why it was good for options), so basically, the little money I made by selling it paid the taxes I received for selling it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Covered Calls
Niiiiiiiice
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
I gotta get better with this stuff.
There’s def. money to be made selling options.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I read a really good book on it once
I’ll see if I still have my copy, (and I think I do) you can have it.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Is it called Options Trader?
Somebody at my last job recommended that to me. I really don’t think I’ll get into this much though. Too much effort for what you end up making.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I used to daytrade (gamble)
And I had like a thousand transactions and I wasn’t about to enter them one at a time. So I just did ONE transaction and made sure the math equaled the total gain/loss.
It wasn’t the right way to do it, but at least if they came back to me later it wouldn’t change the economics of it.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Now that I look at it, I should have rolled that 401k over while I was still paying college expenses.
You’re exempted from the penalties if you meet a certain amount of tuition (which I was). I didn’t know at the time I wasn’t going to be working there though…
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
This is my first year with the kid
I’m practically giddy with anticipation.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 18, 2012 1:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was really disappointed.
I thought I was gone get bank!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not actually expecting a ton...
but it’ll be nice. Next year I’ll get to add the second kid on there, so it will be a bit better.
Did you go to the Wizards game tonight? Fuckin-a.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 19, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Oriole-proof.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
isn't H&R block
offering FREE tax returns or something this year?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
TurboTax is free for simple returns.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
well i just bought a house this year
so i’m assuming my return won’t be simple?
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Eh
still pretty simple – does the interest you paid in 2011 add up to more than the standard deduction? Lots of stock transactions, life changes (marriages, kids, etc) are where it might get too complicated for turbotax.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
nothing like that
bought the house and had my car title transferred in to my name, don’t know if that has any tax implications (I’m really, really dumb with this kind of stuff). but no stock stuff or family (at least that I’m aware of).
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Car is a state/city tax issue not a fed
but I think you’ll be fine with a turbotax.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Turbotax charges you for the state returns anyways.
I just downloaded the tax forms online and did it myself.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Turbotax charged like 30 bucks to do state taxes though!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
lol
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
I believe you can still file for free.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Do you have anything even remotely complicated?
Before I had any complications I used TaxActOnline which is even cheaper than Turbo Tax and really easy, but once I had some complications I switched over.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
If you wanna save some money on the software
Here is a link to a deal on TT Starter (comes with free fed file) and Quicken
No more carousel at Inner Harbor
From The Sun
Baltimore City has terminated its lease with the owners of the Inner Harbor carousel, ordered them to stop giving rides by the end of February and to remove the venerable structure by March 31, according to a letter from the city solicitor’s office.
Ends up the guy hasn’t been making rent. Of course, that part is 7 paragraphs down, after two paragraphs of the carousel owner and Fed Hill people saying how sad it is that it has to go.
Pay your rent, dude, they woulda renewed the lease!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Hooray for biased reporting!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 18, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
whaaaaaa??
He said years ago, when a ride costs 75 cents, he pulled in more than $100,000 a year.
i’m going out and buying me a carousel!
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
O'Malley officially sells out teachers
Wants $240 million in pension costs shifted to counties and that’s just the beginning.
Thanks for lying to us in person last year, Gov. O’Malley.
I’m too old to find a new career at age 43. And there’s no way my county will actually pay what O’Malley says he’s gonna mandate. Because there’s no money to be had in my county. So I’ve been wasting my last 18 years working for a pension I will never, ever see.
This sucks.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
That is horseshit
You know me, I’m not a union guy whatsoever. But pensions that were agreed upon should 100% be honored. I mean, change it all you want, but you have to grandfather everyone in. Complete bullshit. You plan your entire life around that. They’re even talking about doing that for the military which has everyone on edge this past year.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'll rec that.
Completely agree too.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
I don't get a pension either.
Oh well.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
But were you promised one as a big incentive for choosing your career path at the expense of shitty pay?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Nope.
I was promised nothing in return for shitty pay.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
haha well at least the terms were all out in the open
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
EXACTLY
Part of teaching is, and I’ll say it, the promise of a guaranteed (yet lower) salary and fixed benefits at retirement.
Sure, I could have stayed in media, or I could have gone into political consulting, but part of me liked the security of knowing – KNOWING – I had at least a bit of stable income I could rely on after 30 years. Just like cops, the military, firefighters and other civil servants.
That’s part of the reason I signed a teaching contract. I don’t sign that contract without it.
You chose your job, going in, knowing that your employer wasn’t doing that. You knew that, and made a conscious decision.
I have relied on the State of Maryland keeping its word, as it had since it started the state pension system in 1927.
Stupid me.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
May as well have
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Yea, I can agree with this.
It’s a violation (at least IMO) of your contract, even if I do think some reform to pensions is absolutely needed.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Sue then?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
I expect there are enough teachers in the state of MD who would be willing to sue.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
All that said
I do think public pensions are a little out of control. I have a friend who is a sanitation worker in NYC (i.e. a garbage man) and not only does he make upwards of 90k, work incredibly short hours, and get to take naps while “working”, he’s going to have a ridiculous pension (I believe it’s average of 3 highest salaries) as a 45 year old at which point he can take on another job and basically have two paychecks. Now I’m all for incentives for jobs that most people don’t want to do, but they shouldn’t be strong enough that a guy with a college degree is incentivized to quit his corporate job to become a garbage man.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Exactly.
In many cases, you don’t even have to work that long to be pension-eligible which is insane. Huge, HUGE burden on the states….and most of them can’t pay it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I’ve got no beef with pensions in general, they just need to make sense.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'm not the biggest fan of pensions, but it's something I can live with if they are reasonable.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
As long as they make up for shitty pay/work/hours/whatever
and don’t swing the equation so far that it’s an attractive job for overqualified people.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
90K a year
But 20k a year going to whatever mob boss set them up with the job in the first place.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
Still more than I make!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
the federal government changed their ways
They used to have a similar system (with the High 3 salary rule and such) but it was bleeding them dry. But everyone who was under the old system was grandfathered in so there are still older people who work here that are on it and they all just love to throw it in our faces about how they’re under such a beneficial system and we’ll all have to work until we’re 100.
You feds still have it pretty nice :-)
Lots of my buddies from the private sector are jumping ship for government jobs even if they aren’t guaranteed a salary as good as they used to make with they’re consulting firms.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yea...same here.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
the high 3 is changing to high 5 most likely.
The real benefit for the older folks was the ability to sell sick leave back for huge bank.
This...
I have an Aunt who is a completely obnoxious anti-government right wing whacko that had no fucking problem cashing out her accrued leave for nearly sixty large.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 19, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
I think you might be hanging with a minority of private sector folks
the tide usually goes the other way. Job security and hours are really the only thing the government has in its favor.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
That's a pretty huge deal for many of us in the private sector.
If the fed job offers a pay raise, I’d take it in a second.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
But that's the point
a fed job almost never offers a pay raise from a private sector job unless it’s a real shitty one in which case you’re not likely to be able to get the fed job anyway.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Well...that's not always true.
I’d come into a gov job at a much higher level than I would have before I started at my current job.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
And, as a consultant, do good work for the government agency you're consulting for, and it becomes MUCH easier to get a job.
I’ve already been offered one.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Which is why I said I thought you were in the minority of private sector folks in the first place
We’ve had this discussion numerous times now.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Nearly everybody in this office would go into a gov job at a better pay than they've got now.
I’m not nearly convinced we’re the minority. Just underpaid.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
The actual facts indicate that your office is in the minority.
I’m not trying to be a dick or argue – I’m just saying it’s a fact that the majority of private sector employees make more than the comparable federal employee.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I still feel like that's a blanket statement and really requires some different sample sizes.
Sure…on a whole, private sector employees make more, but for the consulting business as a whole, we’d end up making more in the government. I don’t really have a government counterpart though. That’s kinda the point of my job. I do something the government doesn’t employee anybody in-house to do.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely no way regarding the consulting business
which is my business – unless you’re talking about part-time contractors or something on the whole they make way more than government their government equivalents.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
And it is a blanket statement, but it's based on statistics
that I have to look at for work on a daily basis. Obviously you can find little niches where a government agency might be paying more than a similar contractor, but in general it’s the opposite way around.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yeah, mine's not one of those pensions.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
They should slaughter somebody else's sacred cow.
Hosing teachers like you is wrong.
This is another one of those things where it feels like there’s not a lot of leadership coming from Annapolis. Shifting the costs of a pension to broke counties is like a feat of legerdemain. Trying to shuffle the problem away quietly without either legitimately cutting the budget or raising revenue, so they can say, “Pensions will still be funded, the obligation just belongs to the counties now!” Which I am sure teachers know is bullshit.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Not just the teachers.
Everyone knows it’s bullshit. The counties can’t pay for it either.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
He announced recently a proposal to cut certain tax breaks and write offs for the wealthy, with that money going to poor counties
Band-aid for a bullet wound?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Except my county...
because of our revenue cap, Annapolis and the Dem leadership have basically said “Screw you, get rid of your cap, and MAYBE we’ll talk”.
Not particularly enamored with the MD Dem Party at the moment.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Talk to PG County...
they’re double-fucked. TRIM was passed to gut funding for the school system during the white-flight era and people are so against a minor bump in property taxes that they don’t even realize what’s going to hit them when an already weak infrastructure and pretty terribad public services starts really getting cut.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 19, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
We're already there
County Executive is letting minor roads turn back to gravel because there’s no money to pave them.
Our county’s port of our schools budget has gone from $73 million 7 years ago to $34 million last year.
yeah, they’ve slashed it almost 50% in 7 years.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Is he just pushing it over to the counties?
if that is the case I expect the counties Sue him. Martin o malley has always seemed like someone concerned only with his appearance come election, and if he pushes this expense from his books it looks better. I consider myself moderate but there was never any doubt in my mind he is a snake and tis why I voted erlich
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 2:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Ehrlich would have just openly screwed teacher pensions, while doubling their kids' college tuitions.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
And you know this how?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Mis-information in my opinion.
That and tuition is going up in every state regardless of who’s running it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
He appointed a dude to the Board of Regents who specifically advocated doubling college tuition.
There’s no mis about that information.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Nah...the mis-information was directed at the "republicans are going to stop your pension!"
Although…even so….“advocating” and “doing” are two completely separate activities.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Shifting pensions to the counties has been a goal of the MD Republican caucus for years in Annapolis
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
yet
a democrat caved and did just that. I’d rather have transparency in what is unavoidable than someone lie to me
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 3:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I don't generally pay attention to Maryland, so I didn't know that.
But still, that’s not advocating killing the pension altogether (although I don’t think that pensions should be paid by the county unless you’re considered a county employee and not a state employee).
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
It is for my county
6 rabid tea baggers out of 7. They won’t be satisfied until all roads are gravel, teachers are paid minimum wage and businesses pay 0% tax on anything.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
On the County Council, I should say
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I think that's a pretty standard pillar of the GOP platform.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I don't think so though.
Granted, that’s not something I remotely pay attention to when I’m searching for candidates. I know the Republican don’t care for them (I don’t either), but they’re not going to do anything to eliminate them. Even in red states, they’d have a hard time eliminating them completely.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Check out what's been happening to state employee pensions
(and state employees in general) in all the states that went big red in 2010. That’s part of the Walker (and others) recall efforts. The GOP has made no secret about wanting to gut public employees period (including pensions) since the days of Reagan.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'm in college
but I don’t know what people want. in state tuition is dirt cheap value. the opportunity cost of me going to university of Maryland is absurd. it’s No surprise that the money they are getting is not enough. obviously doubling tuition is extreme but it can’t stay stagnant forever. Erich brought it up to a level that it was feasible for o mallet to keep it where it was for four years and look like a hero.
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 2:55 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It is pretty good right now but look at PA
Even in-state tuition is getting absurd.
KKT was a pretty terrible candidate.
I went to a couple of small group events and I came away with the impression that she basically thought she was qualified to be governor because Kennedy is her maiden name.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
I voted for Erlich against O'Malley
Although I was part of the student service alliance in high school that led me to a few interactions with KKT and she was the pits.
She ran one of the worst campaigns in Maryland history.
So, so bad.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Not a fun time to be a Dem, those 2002 midterms.
Lack of organization, poor messaging… man, not much has changed.
Around that time, I saw all this for myself because that was my first stab at college and I was in College Democrats at UMBC. There were like four active members in fall 2002/spring 2003, one of whom was an exchange student from Germany. Mostly because it was boring. I stuck with it because I felt bad. But I imagined meetings being sitting around telling Bush jokes and really meetings were like… you show up and talk about the next event and the next meeting.
Anyway, we would have loved for someone professional to show us how to organize, build enthusiasm, etc. One of KKT’s daughters came to one of our meetings and gave out some signs. “Give these to people!” she said. “Signs aren’t going to make people give a shit about your mom,” I thought.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
dem campaigns, sure...
sauerbrey comes to mind as does mark shriver’s primary campaign against van hollen. pipkin’s good for a laugh.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 18, 2012 3:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
That's the thing.
Ehrlich would have told us to our faces “I hate gov’t employees and I will do everything in my power to screw you over” like Chris Christie has done in NJ and I’d at least have some respect for him.
Just don’t lie to me.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
So, Southland was pretty awesome, glad it is back.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 2:08 PM EST reply actions
wow, ok, so I went onto UPS to track a package and got this:
Wolf Point, MT, United States 01/18/2012 10:35 A.M. Train derailment.
That doesn’t sound good.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 2:09 PM EST reply actions
your package was
/oriole’d
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 18, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
love gambino.
great choice!
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 18, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
lately i've been listening to "Camp" everytime i work out
freakin love it
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Backpackers
has to be my favorite song from that album but that whole album is solid
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 18, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
this i agree with...
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 18, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I liked that movie.
Jessy Schram was in it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Denzel's daughters in that movie
Both of em should have been in the Hottie Bracket.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
I actually hadn't discovered Jessy at that point.
She’d have been in the highly competitive 21-29 bracket though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
I kinda wanna do a breakfast cereals bracket.
Or a TV show/movie/mini-series bracket.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Everybody picks their favorite cereal!
Or two, because I doubt we have 64 regular commenters (commentors?) that would do that.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
This Kellogg’s Krave is a good new cereal:
http://www.kelloggskrave.com/en-us/home.html?utm_campaign=Krave%20Brand&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_content=Krave%20Misspellings&utm_term=kellogg%20crave
I’m in favor of anything that encourages me eat chocolate for breakfast.
Maybe a breakfast foods bracket
so the top cereal ends up going against the top pastry, and they take the winner of the leftovers vs meat fight.
Why even have a meat bracket?
Just declare bacon the winner and move on.
by Stacey on Jan 18, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bacon gets four byes
and then squared off against corned beef and wins
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 2:57 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
not even ditka? the wiz?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 18, 2012 3:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
You don't???
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Everything is better with bacon.
Or monkeys. Bacon and/or monkeys make everything better.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
Would eggs be meat?
Cuse eggs are obvi the #1 breakfast food.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Well what are they then?
Eggs. You can’t explain that.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Bacon all day.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 18, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
I picked up a box of Kashi Go-Lean Cinnamon at lunch
I think it’s new. I approve.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 18, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if this was the train your package was on:
http://www.kxlh.com/news/train-derails-in-ne-montana/
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
I hope not, that looks like a complete wreck.
I had a 90 dollar pair of shoes coming. They would have been completely smashed. Along with everything else, which is also a bummer. If they did get ruined, do I straight up lose my money and my shoes?
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Don't forget you'll miss another opportunity for some mailroom lovin'.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be disappointed if he hasn't delivered the mail yet.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
forget any people that may have been on board
won’t somebody think of the shoes?!?!
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Well, the article says there were no reported injuries of train personnel.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
you're operating under the assumption that i took the time to actually click on that link
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Holy crap those are bright.
I bought some John Varvatos designed chucks recently. I felt silly buying “expensive” chucks, but I lub them.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
those are nice!
I think as long as you love something and it fits in your budget, you should never feel silly for getting it. Especially if it’s something you’ll wear a lot.
I’m gonna love those purple shoes. Especially when I wear them on my birthday to watch the Ravens win the Super Bowl.
.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
I don't mind buying expensive shoes,
but they have to bring unique value (e.g., bejeweled shoes). You could buy the regular chucks for a lot cheaper, but I liked some of the details on the John Varvatos line better so I decided to splurge a bit.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I try to never go above 3 figures for shoes, so I am always looking for something unique that is on sale.
I have a lot of shoes but I have never come across someone with the same pair that I had. That is really the key to having a good shoe collection, it can’t just be nice stuff that everyone has, it should be unique. Those chucks for instance seemed like a really good buy, slightly more expensive but also really nice and unique.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
those aren't chucks, though, yeah?
all stars? one stars?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 18, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure about the typology of chucks but,
I think the technical name for the shoes are JV star player or something.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
i believe...
technically chucks are the canvas high tops. i believe all the low tops are all stars (unless they’re jack purcells, of course).
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 18, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
You shouldn't lose your money/shoes
Assuming the company you purchased from has a shipping contract through UPS (which they should, being that they’re shipping through UPS), all packages are automatically insured for up to $100 (or something like that). A train derailing is pretty clearly the fault of the parcel company, not the shipper, so that should be a very simple claim to process (ignoring that UPS basically automatically approves any insurance claims of $100 or less).
They should be capable of either shipping you another pair of shoes or refunding your payment. I would suggest contacting the seller immediately, though.
at least you didn't accidentally send your new computer ram
to the house in college park that you No longer live in, or near. shipment is mia and No one will comp me for my stupidity. 40 dollars literally burnt
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 2:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Literally?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
shit. I can't believe I did that
I hate when people use literally when they mean they opposite. I feel dumb. metaphorically I burnt money
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 2:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
No wonder you didn't get it, if you burned your money instead of using it to pay for your stuff.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
Joe Saunders
He signs a 1 year deal for $6M. What do people think Guthrie is looking at next off season? I’m thinking 2/$18 tops. If he’s willing to sign an extension for 3/$24, I could live with that.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I'd be cool with 3/24.
I like Guts.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
If he asked for $10M in arb, I don't think he sees himself as worth less in FA.
Especially if his 2012 is better than his 2011.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he's in for a rude awakening next year.
I think he’s expecting a Mark Buerhle contract but I don’t see him getting more than 2 -3 years.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
He's entering free agency for his age 34 years.
He could have a great year (for Guts that is, 115 ERA+) and I still don’t see a Buerhle contract.
I’m really surprised no team would pony up two years for Joe Saunders. I think xFIP is starting to really catch up with most front offices now.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
It appears that Saunders did have two years deals on the table.
But he turned them down because he didn’t to return to the East Coast (cough Orioles), according to fangraphs.
Saunders is a useful player but not a difference maker, and he hung himself out to dry a bit by not jumping on those two guaranteed years when offered, a mistake Aaron Harang, Chris Capuano, and Bruce Chen didn’t make.
Are you writing this down Guts? Harang signed for 2 years, $12 and he’s about the same age as Guts although Guts is slightly better.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
He also had a two year offer from the D'Backs but held out for more.
Tough shit millionare.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 19, 2012 3:28 AM EST up reply actions
I know this is a very baltimore sports team heavy blog.
and dont get me wrong I LOVE the orioles but its got me thinking, how many people here are ravens fans too? and how many do not like them at all?
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 18, 2012 2:57 PM EST reply actions
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 18, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
meeee
too! I love how sc seems to think that Joe flacco is retarded because he got a 98 and rating against a top defense. comparing Houston d with pat’s d is like comparing apples with really shitty apples
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 3:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
sorry!
unable. deficient. anemic.
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 3:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He might have a point.
You can’t sit in the pocket and just watch the pressure all day.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Will we? It doesn't mean anything to me if the Ravens win or lose.
I watched the game as a football fan and think the Ravens absolutely would have lost that game if Matt Schaub had been under center for the Texans. (Did TJ Yates EVER look off the receiver he intended to throw to?)
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
And that thing was Flacco not playing well.
I’m actually kinda hoping the Pats tear you all new one just so I can stop hearing the “we do nothing well but we win games!!!” I get that pretty much every day from the Ravens fan in the office and everyone thinks he’s an idiot. (Although…as much as I hate to admit it, I’m rooting for the Giants this weekend too for the same reason…..49ers fans act as though all of the whining they did for the past 8 seasons is COMPLETELY written off because of one decent season).
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
What haterade?
And I most definitely won’t shed tears for the Patriots losing. I can’t stand them.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
You're going to lick the tears of his face? That's real weird.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Can't get over the theme song
to watch even the first few minutes of it.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'm a sucker for anything Les Claypool does
(he’s the dude who wrote that song)
Les on his auditioning for Metallica
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 18, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
i got a guy that i work with who never stops talking
about how amazing the ravens are and how awful every other team is…it kills me inside..
he also considers himself an orioles fan but he couldnt tell you two of our outfielders…hes an idiot…and he has single handedly ruined baltimore football for me
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 18, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I don't expect the Ravens to win on Sunday.
I mean, it’s possible, it just doesn’t seem like it’s gonna happen. The Ravens’ pass rush is very feast-or-famine. The Ravens D hasn’t faced anything like the Brady/Welker/TEs combo this season. I figure it’ll be a shootout and Cam Cameron will bring a knife because that’s how he rolls.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
we do a ton of shit well
flaccid has a comparable first four years to elite and including Tom Brady. look it up. and my point is flacco didn’t do well against a top D as he for against 11 top ten D s this year, and yet the ravens still won. I have No idea what people expected Joe to do. a win is a freaking win, and if Joe throws for 300 yds this week the excuse will be it was against a bad d.
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 3:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
E-rec'd.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Figured as much.
And you are correct, when he wears out his welcome with me, this will be my likely nickname for him.
What?
Flacco’s postseason QB rating is like 30 something. Even teammates have criticized his postseason play. That doesn’t really compare to Brady, who won a Super Bowl in his second year (and regardless of wins, has much better postseason stats).
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
through 4 years
in season stats are comparable. His post seasons have been lacking, obvi. I wont discount games that were won, like the 2009 pats game (only 10 att) and last week. No doubt he needs to step up but he isnt as far behind as everyone thinks
He needs to step up when it matters.
He’s extremely far behind if his stats don’t pick up in the postseason. Nobody doubts that Peyton Manning was elite, but he didn’t take that final step until he had a solid postseason. Even he himself (Manning) admitted that the playoff game was a completely different animal than the regular season game.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
i agree
if he doesnt step up this week, I will probably be off the wagon. Unless we win. Then, he gets another week. But this team doesn’t need Tom Brady to win games.
hooray, another fair weather Ravens fan
just what the world needs
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
by Gamecock24 on Jan 18, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
off the wagon of Flacco
not the ravens. Im a diehard. this is insulting. you cant argue flacco needs step up for this game specifically, and I am desperate for a title. And compared to steelers fans, pats, red sox fans, ravens are far behind in fair weather fans
You're a fair weather Ravens fan if you don't think your QB is the long term answer?
Well shit, I mist be a fair weather O’s fan for not thinking 20 men on our roster are not the long term answer.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
i just feel like he's contradicting himself during this discussion
earlier he’s saying that Flacco has had a very comparable first 4 years to Brady, but now he’s saying that if Flacco doesn’t step up in this one game, he’s completely writing him off… but if they win of course then hooorayyyy Flacco you’re the best!
that’s why i said it’s being fair weather, maybe i should have said fair-weather Flacco fan instead of Ravens fan
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
im saying
this is one of the worst Ds in the league, and the most important game yet. Time for him to prove the doubters wrong. My point earlier was that his play in the Houston game was acceptable, because it was a good D and we won.
The Patriots don't need Joe Flacco to win games.
What’s the point here again?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
I'm okay with that.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Yea..I told you, bro
I’m not rooting for the Pats.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
bullshit
1) we beat schaub.
2) you can’t play the if game. what happened is what happened. if flacco had played better it wouldn’t have been a contest. if ed Reed had missed that we would have lost. plenty of ifs, but none happened.
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 3:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Twisted loves the if game.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
if john elway hadn't refused to play for the colts
they would be here!
if Jeff maier hadn’t caught thee ball maybe the os would have won! but yet the history books still have the indy colts, and the damn Yankees have 8900 world series
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 3:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Bull.
Flacco is better than he gets credit for. Yes, his pocket presence needs to improve and there were one or two sacks where he absolutely should have thrown the ball to the sideline. But taking this one game as an example, The O-line was just destroyed by Houston, which has a defense that is rated right there with the Steelers and the Ravens. Second, his recievers were not getting separation all day. Look at the catches by Boldin and Evans, they look spectacular because they are being covered all the way. Flacco is a good QB, not great, not elite, but he is good. Or should we start making calls to Trent Dilfer. Also, if you look at Flacco and compare his stats this year to Brady in his fourth year, he measures up rather well. I think in a better system, with some better coaching and a full offseason to work with said coaches, he takes another step forward next year as this offense gets more comfortable with one another.
Um....did you watch the game?
I’m not anti-Flacco, but he was not spectacular in that game, regardless of QB rating. He doesn’t move in the pocket at all.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
He was not spectacular in that game
but a lot of the time he was getting no help at all.
This morning on my drive to work Jim Palmer was on the radio on 105.7 talking Ravens football. It was funny.
adult baseball leagues...
anybody play in one?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 18, 2012 3:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
against a top pass rushing D
he wasn’t spectacular but many players have gotten wrecked by Houston D including worthlessburger. a win is a win and you are talking about dramatically different opponents, if he plays like that against ne we will talk.
by mdterps0325 on Jan 18, 2012 3:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Top pass rushing D?
They only had 4 more sacks than the Patriots this season. Baltimore had 4 MORE sacks than Houston this year and did not have a sack in that game.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
pass rushing isn't just sacks
its hurries, containment. but w/e. top D. Pats beat the piss out of a sloppy .500 denver team. Ravens played crappy on O against a top D. this game will be far different, at the very least it should be.
This game will be far different?
Based on?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
no. 2 D vs. no 31 D
Flacco will play better, def should get fried a little more. But if Joe can lead a team 80 yds to beat the steelers last minute, im not too concerned about him against the Pats. Of course, I say maybe because when I talk trash it ends up bad. I just couldn’t hold it in anymore this week
Confusing
I thought you were a Broncos/Tebow fan?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
So?
You can cheer for multiple teams.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Sure - I cheer for whoever is playing the Giants
but I’m not a 49ers fan.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I think for WW it's the other way around.
He’s a Ravens fan but cheers for Tebow.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta stick it to the pinko liberals any way you can!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
9/25 with 136 yards
SUCK IT OBAMA!
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHAHAHAH
lowest playoff completion percentage since 1998 – suck on that nancy pelosi!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
AKA, how much will dave and I feel unwanted during the week before the SB?
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Im not a ravens fan in any sense. They are actually one of my least favortie teams.
My team is out of contention totally, i was just curious to see if i was alone…
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 18, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Because you won't be playing in it, you won't feel wanted at all.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Keeping your eyes closed to the truth still?
I said they would win the NFC East…. I was right.
I said they would beat the Packers…. I was right.
I say they will beat the 49ers … I will be right.
Just like how they lost to GB in the RS by only 3, they lost to SF in the RS by 7 and the Giants are a whole new team now.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
The Packers were definitely the biggest obstacle
I see no reason why they can’t beat the 49ers. I think the 49ers could also beat them, it should be a good game. But people acting like there is no chance the Giants will be in the Super Bowl are just silly.
Oh...I don't think anyone but 49er fans think there's no chance the Giants will win.
Also….Westie, you say they’re going to win every game. It’s not really a bold prediction anymore.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't say it about the Falcons game.
I thought they would lose that one.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I had them winning in that game actually.
Matt Ryan is notoriously crappy outside of ATL.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
I love the Ravens, but not like I love the Orioles.
I can always find something to talk about with the Orioles. Ravens, I’ve got about ten minutes of discussion per week in me and then it’s like, “OK, can it be game time now?”
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I love the Ravens
but I’d give them away in return for a good baseball team.
by Stacey on Jan 18, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In my heart of hearts, I feel exactly the same.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking about this the other day.
If the Orioles were playing for the league championship, i’d be doing all sorts of insane rituals. With the Ravens I just think “well that should be fun to watch!”
I’m definitely hopping on the Ravens-wagon this week. Definitely rooting against NE and the Giants. If it’s a Ravens-9ers superbowl, I don’t really care about the outcome, and if it’s New England vs. the Giants again, well, I’m really rooting for the apocalypse but I think my dislike of New England is second only to my dislike of the Cowboys.
Giants-Pats it is!
C’mon, you’re an Eagles/Orioles fan. You know better than to hope for something and expect anything other than the complete opposite outcome.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Yeah. I actually start every season just assuming the Yankees and Cowboys are going to win the championship. That way anything other than worst case scenario is not so bad.
I'm apathetic.
I’m not a Ravens fan, but I’m not anti-Ravens in any way. I generally root for them to win.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
I am with you, Phil.
There is no “I would like for both teams to be good.” No. I would like for the Ravens to be good and the Redskins to be terrible. I would like for the Orioles to be good and the Nationals to be terrible.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Exactly
right now I think Baltimore has the upper hand:
Baltimore: Ravens GREAT Orioles SHITTY
DC: Redskins SHITTY Nationals OKAY
We certainly have them beat in championships won in the 2000s.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well from a football perspective you've got your wish.
Dick.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
People act like it's some sort of crime to be a Redskins fan in Baltimore.
It’s not only not a crime, it’s to be expected of people of a certain vintage.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
A lot of people feel that way
I don’t care, though. I consider the Caps and Wizards the home hockey and basketball teams. And the only reason I don’t want the Nationals to be good is because of all of my jealousy.
This.
I don’t care about the Wizards at all, but the Caps are my team. I want the Nationals to be good just as much as I want the Orioles to be good. I think it’d be amazing for this area if both teams were good.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I definitely don't want the nationals to be good just as much as I want the Orioles to be good.
It wouldn’t bother me if they were good at the same time as the Orioles being good, but I’m not going to waste one of my three wishes on it.
I don't care about that Wizards OR the Caps
but I still consider them the home teams for those sports. Those two weeks that I tried to be a basketball fan I watched the Wizards.
I hate the Caps t-shirts that feature Mr. Boh
Caps are not Baltimore’s home team and Baltimore is not DC’s suburb. I don’t really blame anyone for rooting for a team but let’s not go crazy and call all teams in the Baltimore/Washington area the home team.
I certainly don't think that Baltimore is DC's suburb
people who act that way drive me nuts. But I don’t think saying that two teams a 45 minute drive from me are my home team when my actual city doesn’t have a team that plays those sports is that outlandish.
Baltimore is not DC's suburb.
But there is a huge Caps following in Baltimore. They are the home team there. What other team would you cheer for? Pittsburgh? HA! Not likely.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno
I’d cheer for whatever team I liked best for whatever reason. I don’t really have anything against people rooting for the Caps, I guess. I just take issue with Baltimore falling under the umbrella of DC for any reason. Just an irrational stance of mine.
Not irrational
That said, I don’t think anyone in Bmore feels they HAVE to root for the Caps. They’re popular in the city though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
my friend is a huge caps fan
he otherwise hates the DC area. For some reason that dichotomy irritates the shit out of me.
of course,
natty boh has not been brewed in baltimore for some time now.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
You're in NoVA and DC so obviously it's fine for you to root for DC teams
I’m in Baltimore and I’m just not gonna do it. Ever.
I'm a skins fan and totally indifferent to the ravens
although it’s hard not to root against them just for schadenfreude.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I rarely, if ever root against the Ravens.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Baltimore stopped having a football team once the Stallions left.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
They are my 2a team
1: Giants
2a/b/c/d: Ravens (Bmore team, Ray Rice is my fave player, and Ray Lewis reminds me of watching LT when I was a kid), Saints (Fiance is from NOLA), Packers (Bro in law is a huge fan, classic organization), Colts (Love watching Peyton play, fandom will be gone with him)
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Deep breath...
I fucking hate almost everything about the Ravens. There is a solid segment of Ravens supporters (like the fine folks here, I imagine) that I completely respect and have absolutely no quarrel with. You folks have a fine football team and I hope one day to root for a Redskins team of equal caliber.
Now the rest of them assholes fall into two distinct, but equally reprehensible groups:
1) The bandwagons: you dipshits from inside and around 495 know good and fucking well that you are in Redskins territory. You know for a fucking fact that when you grew up, your Mom got you a Redskins calendar with Coach Joe, the Hogs, the Over-the-hill gang, and so on. You sang HTTR in ‘91 and hated the hell out of the Cowboys. But now, it’s purple camo and Ed Reed and Ray Ray all the time. "They’re from Maryland!’ you say. “I hate Dan Snyder!” you whine. Well nut the fuck up and admit that you’re a no-good cherry-picking piece of shit. You also oftentimes root for random combinations of teams, usually the Lakers or the Bulls. If you were born before the Ravens came into existence, and especially if you are from the DC suburbs, you had better be a Redskins fan or a Cowboy fan (ask me some other time why I think there is a certain segment of the DC pop. that can rightfully root for the Cowboys). Thas it.
2) The old-timers: I get it. The Irsays up and robbed you of the Colts. Of the uniforms, the records, the legacy. I’m sorry for your loss. But guess the fuck what: you inherited, by nothing but magical malevolence on the part of one Arthur Modell, a fucking fannnnntastic operation. JO and Ray? Rightfully Browns. You know it. By sheer fucking luck you folks got a team back after twelve years and it just so happens its an amazing organization.
Stop bitching about the Colts. Stop complaining that Pittsburg/NE gets all the calls. Just enjoy your football team and the nice stadium and the purple camo. I don’t give a piss that the Brows got to keep their name, their history, and their uniforms. They got a completely shitty fly-by-night operation that has failed at every conceivable juncture to field a competitive team, despite being handed multiple first round selections. While the Browns moving to Baltimore isn’t exactly the same as the Colts leaving, its close enough that you should keep fucking quiet about it.
Oh, and seriously, to all of you: I’ll take Flacco off of your hands if you guys don’t want him.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 19, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Because everyone has their NFL allegiance set by age 1
also, by these rules I should automatically be a Yankees fan. Only I don’t live in NY, and they don’t play in NJ. Now, I get it if you WERE a Redskins fan and ditched for greener pastures, but what about all those people that never rooted for the Redskins because DC is not Baltimore (the same way NY is not NJ)? They get lumped in with the “assholes”?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I probably wasn't too clear...
But my cOmment about having no excuse if you were born before the Ravens were poached from Cleveland is being applied to people in the 495 market, ie the Washington burbs. True, some people don’t start following football until they get a little older, but the only time I would ever call those people assholes is if they refused to acknowledge that they were kind of Johnny come latelies.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 19, 2012 9:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hey Twisted (and any other runners)
Think I could run a 5k without doing a single bit of training? I’ve gone “running” exactly once in the past 3 years and went maybe 1.5 miles, but it’s purely out of choice because I despise running. The wife is running a 5k and I sort of want to just see if I can do it without doing a single bit of running beforehand.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
sure you can
not very fast, no. But I did a 5k in 5th grade, and I started cross country without any summer training in 9th grade and did the 5k on day 1 without literally dying. I did vomit, so maybe be prepared.
Hmmm
sounds fun. I haven’t puked from a workout in a long time, so it might be about time.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
it was also kind of a thing i always did
in Cross country. Vomited a lot after races sometimes, so maybe its just me
Can you do it?
That depends on how physically fit you are. If you’re in relatively good shape, you can probably light jog most of the way without dying.
Will you feel good when you’re done? Probably not.
Perhaps.
But it’s better to get out and do some long distance jogging first, maybe 3-4 miles. It will not be a pleasant experience and will probably take the better part of an hour to complete depending on what kind of shape you are in. If you are in good shape then it will be considerably less. I ran in High School and those first few runs were a bear. I clocked 37 minutes on my first time trial for a 5k course. By the end of the season I did the same in about 18 minutes 30 seconds. So training is wonderful for these things so you don’t feel like doubling over and metaphorically dying halfway through.
dude, eff you!
I never ran a 37 min 5k, thats pretty rough. worst was 27 min. But in 4 years of running my ass off I never got close to 18 30.
It was a good year, I came close one other race.
But the following year I was dealing with an injury and shin splints so it wasn’t so good.
18:04, thankyouverymuch
Of course, that was in 1984, but anyway…
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I ran to get in shape for wrestling
I sucked at wrestling, but went to states twice in cross country. Go figure.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Fuck that shit
I’m definitely not running 3-4 miles.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
nut up or shut up
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
by birdman on Jan 18, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i think i should collect royalty rec's whenever this gets used around here
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
oh, did you invent this phrase?
Strange, ive heard it for years before I had any clue what camden chat was! kudos to you sir!
hey dickbag, chill out
i did introduce it around here last fall when twisted was debating whether he should put moves on a girl that he works with
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
No calling other people "dickbag".
Gamecock24 can fairly claim credit for the proliferation of “nut up or shut up” on CC, however.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
no you chill out, asswallet
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
no, you shut it taint-tote
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Wow...nice work on the 18:30
I didn’t start running till I was 30, but the best I’ve been able to do is 23:45
16:56....although I'm positive it wasn't a full 5k.
I think the official measurement was 2.9 miles.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
My usual 5k time was in the low 17s.
Definitely not two minutes. 45 seconds max. I run a half mile in 2 minutes, bro.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Shit…wow.
I’d like to get under 23:00. I’ve gotten a couple age-group medals in smaller races up here (one in which I think I was 2nd place out of 2..d’oh!) but I don’t care enough to do all the speedwork I’d need to do to really get faster.
Just as long as you didn't get any medals for just showing up.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Well there's no fucking way I'm approaching that
We used to have to do 3 miles in under 20 in college and I was thinking I’d shoot for under 30 for this thing.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Duh dude.
I’d be over 22 mins if I tried to run one right now.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
I think I could still bang out a very fast single mile
but not multiples.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Gonna run 5 this evening.
If I ever get out of the office.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
I would love to be able to leave work by 5
Hasn’t happened this week yet, tonights looking good though…
I am leaving at 530, stopping at the gym (its on our work campus), and running for awhile.
And I am going to watch netflix/post on CC while doing it.
That's a good idea.
But sadly I only run outside and if I try to do this I might run into a tree… I mean the rail trail near my house is straight and all, but it’s also dark by the time I leave.
Watch out for rapists!
I can just see a “Law and Order” scene happening b/c some attacked you while you were trying to think of some witty comeback against O’sFan21.
Camdenchat 5K?
The Orioles (Orioles Advocates, actually, I guess) had a 5K. I ran it in ‘08, which was the last year they had it. I took it really slow because I hadn’t run much in the “offseason” and so it’s my personal worst, but it was a lot of fun. Started at the warehouse, the harbor, turnaround on key highway (like every race in baltimore) and then back to the stadium, through the tunnel, finish was in centerfield, where you could crash into the padded wall.
I have a t-shirt from the 1995 race
I signed up to run it with my Dad, and chickened out. It was before I started running Cross Country though. One year later and I would have run it had I signed up, not sure why we never did.
i'd say it depends on what your athletic background is like, but i'd say you should be fine as long as you don't go balls to the wall
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
like stated above, not throwing up?
i mean, usually with a 5K most people are doing to support some sort of cause/charity, not to try and go blow away the competition. if that’s what you’re looking to do though, best of luck to you.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Oh I don't want to blow away the competition
I just want to smoke my wife who’s actually been training. It’s the little victories in the life of a marriage that you have to savor.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
beating a girl in running isnt an accomplishment
they arent built for it. Plus your wife will be pissed.
Yeah, that's a no-win
If you beat her, she plays the “but you’re a guy” card. She wins, and you never hear the end of it. Score points by running side-by-side with her, then beat her at canasta or backgammon or something.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
The chances of me beating her at some game are about as good
as her beating me in this race.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
its like fighting a girl
one way, you beat up a girl. the other, you just got your ass kicked by a girl
Yea, I'd just stay at home and drink beer
then comment on how proud you are, how awesome she is looking, etc. Then you can both win.
Don’t Oriole it Up!
hahahaha wtf?
Canasta or backgammon? lol
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
That's how we older folks roll.
We also have Risk too. My wife and I actually met playing Spades online.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
Backgammon is AMAZING!!!
When I was in the army and when I do reserve duty I take one of my boards (handcrafted) and play tournaments for hours, even days.
It’s big over here.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 19, 2012 3:33 AM EST up reply actions
there is a mania for it in Greece
in Athens, every day at about 4pm, the cafes all over town fill with Greeks drinking weird coffee drinks and playing backgammon
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
haha....that's how I started playing....all of the greeks in my family.
For the record, I love backgammon….I just thought Zeke’s choice of games to name was totally random and funny.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
I heartily agree
I haven’t played in a while, but when I start playing backgammon, i get addicted.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
For the record, the only real way to make coffee (and the only way I'll drink it)
is to cook the grounds in water and drink it all with little to no sugar.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 20, 2012 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
So you want to be married to a loser...
Think this through, young man.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
by duck on Jan 18, 2012 6:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I suggest you try a new strategy, R2
Let the wookie win.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Sure.
Don’t expect to run fast though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
How much cardio do you now? You could probably do it, but you might need to take a walking break and you’re going to be sore as shit afterwards.
I do 3 minutes on the eliptical and 2 minutes on the arm bike before lifting
and I sprint around the bases in softball after hitting a HR and play SS twice a week in the spring/summer/fall. lol
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
So, calling government offices blows.
I received unemployment for a couple of months in 2011. However, during that time period, I also moved. This means that I need to call the Department of Labor, Licensing, and Regulation to update my address so that they send my 1099g to the correct address.
I call them up and start working my way through the menus. After about five minutes, I get to the menu that has an option to update my address with the agency. I select that option and what does it do? Why, it kicks me all the way back out to the beginning, of course. It does this three times.
Fuck.
I hate that they are only open till like 4PM.
how am I supposed to call these places if they aren’t open when I am not at work!?
Almost as bad as calling private businesses
And don’t get me started on waits at doctors’ offices. If I made a parent wait 15 minutes for a parent conference, I’d be reprimanded. But businesses? Park your butt out there for an hour and we’ll get to ya when we get to ya.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Darvish signs (of course)
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/rangers-to-sign-yu-darvish.html
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Did you hear somebody yell fuck? That was Prince Fielder.
So he’ll either take a very team friendly contract with the Rangers or more money with the Nats.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Now watch
MFY sign him as a DH
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
do you want to be with a man or a boy?
I know which one I’d choose.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
"I'm sure Egg is a very nice girl."
I love the Anne jokes. LOVE THEM.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
McNuggets are one hell of a drug
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 18, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Look, Ma! My name's on here.
http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/bal/downloads/y2012/fanfestmap-12.pdf
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 6:29 PM EST reply actions
Sweet!
Too bad Melewski is the host. Make sure to uniformly agree with everything he says.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Given that there are 6 other people, one of whom actually works for MASN, I don't expect I'll have much time to say a lot.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
Haha. Maybe that's what I'll do.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
49 year old Jamie Moyer signs a minor league with Rockies.
Amazing.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
As Keith Law said on the MLB Today Podcast
Once you sign Jamie Moyer to a contract, you’re officially admitting that you are completely out of ideas.
hahahahahha
So the Orioles still have ideas? That’s news.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
always w/ the negative vibes, moriarty...
sure they have ideas. sure they have plans…doesn’t mean they’re any good!
(though i’m willing to delude myself for a few months)
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 18, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There are other ways to be out of ideas.
The Orioles just haven’t chosen to reveal this by signing Moyer. They reveal it by trading for Dana Eveland.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 18, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
just found a great old pic of melewski...
“the orioles core is fundamentally sound.”
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
As Ron White said...
“The core of this tree is still alive,” White quotes the landscaper. “I said, ‘Let me tell you what I’m lookin’ for in a fuckin’ tree: I’m lookin’ for a tree that you can tell is alive even if you don’t know shit about trees.”
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
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