Thursday Bird Droppings
Prospect Watch: Top 10 shortstops | MLB.com
For the second year in a row, MLB.com's Jonathan Mayo has named Manny Machado the #1 shortstop prospect in baseball.
Baltimore Orioles Complete Organizational Chart - MLB Daily Dish
This is fantastic. A complete org chart from the front office down to A ball. It includes salary, arbitration, and option details.
Orioles talking to Armando Galarraga; haven't signed righty | orioles.com
Dan Duquette realized that Galarraga isn't Asian and therefore needs to think twice before signing him.
Camden Depot: Trading Adam Jones: AL Central Edition
More Adam Jones trade-y goodness.
Orioles tap New Zealand for 17-year-old prospect - baltimoresun.com
So it's not just Asia, it's everywhere in the Pacific. Also, this guy played softball until last year.
Steve Melewski: How should the Orioles handle the DH spot?
"[T]he Orioles finished 10th in slugging, 11th in OPS, and 12th in on-base percentage and RBIs from the DH spot in 2011." \
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when they are dead, they are just hookers!
so pumped
by mdterps0325 on Jan 19, 2012 9:56 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
well yes
but mostly pumped for archer to come back on
by mdterps0325 on Jan 19, 2012 10:01 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
here's a link to plenty of GIFs to tide you over until tonight
http://www.uproxx.com/webculture/2012/01/the-best-of-sterling-archer/#page/1
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
WARNING!
That link is not work-safe. >.<
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
can anyone else
not open links in the mobile sb nation app
by mdterps0325 on Jan 19, 2012 10:24 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
i can't
nor can i collapse pictures.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 19, 2012 10:35 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Fucking yes
I love Archer. Great show.
I love how American animation is slowly growing to be on par in quality with Japanese animation. Now all we need is some serious animated shows aimed at adult audiences and we’ll be set.
by Holymittens on Jan 19, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Orioles tapping 17-year-old New Zealanders? Hmm.....

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
It's good that he played softball...
When Bud Selig brings back underhand pitching with no wrist breaking, we’ll be set.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
chirp...
chirp.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 19, 2012 8:53 AM EST via Android app reply actions
chirp.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
Here's a way to solve your boredom - Cheapest way to get from Baltimore to NY - Go!
Or at the very least, some online mapping device that will give me a total toll amount. My buddy lives in Long Beach and I have parking, so if I drive that’s free.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
If you wanna avoid tolls, you can take 83 to Harrisburg and then take 78 via Allentown.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
This looks like an extra hour drive according to Google?
But do you think it’s worth it? I’m trying to find a search engine that will give me precise toll amounts. If the hour saves us $40 round trip it’s worth it. $10, not so much
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
The tolls going up to NYC are ridiculous.
You’d probably require much less than a tank of gas…even a full tank of gas is less than the tolls. It’s like 10 bucks for the DMB now.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
I just math'ed it
I think that taking 95/NJ Turnpike would be $2 more expensive than 83/78 when you factor in the additional gas spent on the 160 extra miles round trip
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
I was told there would be no math....
It’s a nicer drive anyways….I avoid the turnpike and all that crap at all cost.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Haha
These tolls are ridiculous through you’re right
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
It's insane.
You pay for EVERYTHING. Delaware Memorial Bridge, Susquehanna, NJ Turnpike, Delaware Turnpike, NYC bridges/tunnels, etc. Highway robbery (pun completely intended).
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
how much does 295 save you over the turnpike?
I’m thinking it’s just a couple bucks, right? They really screw you on the bridges
95/route 1
about the same time as the turnpike, about the same distance, no tolls at all.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
You mean just stay on 95 and go up thru Philly?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, as i said somewhere on here...
you can take 95 all the way up to trenton. you are briefly on 295 going around trenton and then you connect with route 1.
if you google the difference in time between 95/route 1 vs 95/turnpike, it’s about 8 minutes.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
chinatown bus!
scariest busrides ever, but only like five bucks
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Nah...
The scariest bus rides ever are actually in China.
I was once on a bus driving from Chengdu to Jiuzhaigou. The road wound up a river valley. On the west side of the road, there was a vertical rock face from the two-lane (one each direction) road being cut into the side of the valley. On the east side, the road had a 200’ drop off to the river. Every mile or so, you’d see a truck or car that had dropped off the side and been left below. The setup meant that there were a lot of blind turns where you couldn’t see very far up the road.
As we’re making our way, we keep seeing cars go flying by us, passing in what would obviously be a no-passing zone in the States. We were sitting in the back, so we could never tell how clear the road ahead was. However, we’d see the car pass and very shortly thereafter, see a dump truck come rumbling in the opposite direction. From the front of the bus, we’d here “ooohhh” or “aaahhh”. We could gauge how close the car cut it by 1) our driver slamming on the brakes or 2) the volume of the “ooohhhs” from the people in the front of the bus.
As if this weren’t enough, the rear axle kept falling off of our bus. It’d fall off. Then they’d put a rock in the road and drive over it to knock it back in place (I still have no idea what this was accomplishing). We stopped in several towns and had it welded back on, but it would fall off again. Eventually, we abandoned the bus and another had to be summoned to pick us up.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
This picture is from the little town where we stopped the first time to have our axle welded back on...

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
I want that.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 19, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
reminds me of the Top Gear special in Chile (I think)
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
That's about it.
It was a slightly wider road, as the north and southbound lanes were full lanes. But that does give an idea of the blind turns these cars were passing us on.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
I think the scariest bus rides are in Africa.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
i've been on...
some mountain road white knucklers in latin america.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 19, 2012 10:25 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
My airport shuttle in rome was terrifying
I must have “braced for impact” at least 10 times between the airport and the hotel, but at least we weren’t going to fall hundreds of feet to our bloody deaths.
When I was in Brazil my bus got held up by highway bandits
one downed!
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 19, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Yea
From what I’ve experienced, Italy/Rome and India seem to have the craziest driving. Driving up the mountains in India is the worst, I feel like the bus drivers don’t care about their lives and just go full speed to save time.
@sibsinExile
you can't avoid the tolls into manhattan
the outerbridge, goethals, holland tunnel, lincoln tunnel, and GWB all charge the same toll. you can save a few dollars (and sometimes a LOT of time) by getting an EZ pass in advance, and save a few more if you have an EZ pass and cross during off-peak hours. If you have a qualifying hybrid, you can save a lot (around $8 per crossing).
the toll is inbound only. leaving town, all those crossings are free. the most direct way to go toll-free is through the holland tunnel, because if you go across staten island, you’ll pay a toll at the verrazano narrows bridge. if you take the lincoln tunnel, you’re going out of your way.
in terms of getting north, you can avoid the turnpike by taking 95 up to trenton and then switching to Route 1. 295 is faster than 95, but you have to go over the del memorial bridge to get it, and that’s another $4. route 1 takes you all the way up to the holland tunnel without touching the turnpike. it’s not a highway (there are traffic lights and such), but it adds surprisingly few minutes, as it’s very direct, and there are vest light-free stretches.
while in new york, all east river crossings (to queens and brooklyn) are free if you take a bridge, but tolled if you take a tunnel. go figure.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Can I take Holland Tunnel instead of Verrazano?
Google has me taking Verrazano. I’m going to Long Beach.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
long beach??
is that on long island?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Yes at the very beginning of it
I can’t find the Holland Tunnel but it seems like Verrazano is the most direct route.
So you’d suggest 95 to Route 1, and then stay on that all the way up to 278? Then I gotta pay for Goethals Bridge and Verrazano?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
outerbridge and verrazano.
goethals is further north than you need to go
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by the wat
the verrazano narros is a spectacular bridge. it’s the largest suspension bridge in the US (even bigger than the golden gate) and one of the largest in the world. And it has amazing views of manhattan.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I'd probably take the Verrazano
That way you can just hop right on Belt Parkway
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
OK, just found it.
You should take the Outerbridge/Verrazano combo going in. Again, there’s no way to avoid a toll coming into NYC, and that includes Staten Island. But the Verrazano is free going inbound, and then you just take the belt parkway to get to Long Island.
OUTBOUND, you will pay a toll on the Verrazano. It’s only 5 or 6 bucks, but if you want to avoid it, you could take the BQE to the Brooklyn Bridge, and then the holland tunnel to get off Manhattan. But that’s a lot of dense-traffic driving to avoid $5, particularly if you’re ding it on a Sunday nght.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Duh...Just said that!
Two whole minutes ago!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
bully for you!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Ok awesome I think I can do this. Maybe.
Thank ya both
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, I'VE successfully done that drive from the Shore
You will have no problem.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
[insert joke hear about how it took 3 weeks in a covered wagon]
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Fighting off Typhoid Fever
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
and the hostiles
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
shhiiiit

oh wait, wrong hostiles
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 19, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
But at the end of it all
he was able to purchase Manhattan by giving the natives a bunch of beads.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I'VE successfully done that drive from...not the Shore.
But nearby anyways.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yup, only 10 mins extra to take Route 1 instead of the turnpike
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
I'd say you get a lot more practice with big city driving than I do
I was being a bit self-deprecating.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Yea...I was just joking around.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Jones trades for the AL Central.
Those trades are wildly, wildly ridiculous.
The Indians would not give up Kipnis for Jones, straight up, much less with LaPorta and Brantley.
The Tigers would not give up Oliver for Jones, straight up.
The Royals would laugh at us for even asking for just Myers, much less the others.
The Minnesota trade is the only one marginally palatable.
Eh, the worth there is about the same as the other packages and what has been suggested to me by scouts. I also write that I think for the reasons I stated Jones is not a fit there. I think you might be overvaluing some of the targets and undervaluing how some teams see Jones.
by crawdaddy on Jan 19, 2012 11:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
To be fair
they did kind of finish the article by saying, yeah so the central really isn’t a good fit.
He probably knows that
seeing as he wrote the article
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
So what is Machado's timeline?
If he doesn’t get Oriole’d up he going to be in the big leagues end of this year/start of ’13?
I'd be shocked if he gets a cup of coffee in September 2012.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
maybe...
some regular reps next year and for good in 2014.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 19, 2012 9:19 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Would a Wieters-style
call up at the end of May 2013 be the most optimistic time frame?
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 19, 2012 9:21 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Does well at AA this year, then crushes AAA for a few months next year? I could see it
Though that could be slowed down some if Hardy plays well.
I am frequently stunned when I think about how bad the O's SS situation used to be.
Even if Hardy’s power regresses some next year, it’s still so nice to see a player who can swing a bat out there. Cesar Izturis? Cesar freaking Izturis? Holy crap that used to suck. And now we stole Hardy and have Machado? It’s a rare bright spot on this dismal team.
not to mention...
i think there are orgs that would probably be cool w/ schoop as their top ss prospect.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 19, 2012 9:33 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
If Machado dominates AA this year
I wonder if it greases the track for a JJ trade next offseason?
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 19, 2012 9:35 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Does he have the arm?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
which one?
I’d say Hardy is above average in all things Fielding. if he is on the team still probably No harm in starting machado at third
by mdterps0325 on Jan 19, 2012 9:59 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Hardy.
I feel like I’ve seen something before where his arm at 3B was questioned.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Yes...
In fact, a lot of scouts project Machado moving to third as his frame fills out.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
How is this a win?!
His bat won’t change, just his defensive value will go down. He wouldn’t be ranked as high on prospect lists if he was a definite 3B.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 19, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
it does say he would still be a great bat at third
in a lot of scouting reports. the value goes down but he is still a top prospect
by mdterps0325 on Jan 19, 2012 10:23 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
It is a win b/c Machado and JJ could play together
If u want Machado at SS thats fine. My only point was that one (IDC who) moves to 3B.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
I'd rather Machado be a SS and Schoop be the 3B
with JJ being traded.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 19, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think he's ever played 2B.
Is it that easy just to slide over?
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 19, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
I can't see it as being any more difficult than "just to slide over" to 3B.
It requires similar footwork around 2B, albeit the turn is different. For a fielder of JJ’s caliber, I don’t see any reason why he wouldn’t be able to make the move with a Spring Training of work.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know if moving to 3B is easy either.
But it’s more common (in my memory) than to 2B. Michael Young, A-Roid, Cal.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 19, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Michael Young
I think that he demonstrates pretty well that a good fielder is going to find a way to be a good fielder at any position.
Of course, if Machado and Schoop develop good middle infield chemistry at Bowie and Norfolk, I would prefer to keep them there in Baltimore and shift Hardy to 3B.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
He's a bit below average on most metrics...
… but given how the Rangers have jerked him around the infield for the past decade, I’d say that qualifies him as being fairly good. In 2011, he played every defensive position and his worst showing was a -5 Rtot.
By comparison, Reynolds was -18 in 2011, Cal ranged from -2 to 9 at 3B, ARoid has been from -12 to 9…
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
so he's a below average fielder
that’s been below average at a lot of different positions…
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
He's a fielder that has been statistically the same as average.
And he’s done so while being jetted around the infield.
A guy who can perform average at every infield position is a good fielder by my account, since the vast majority of players struggle to be average at one position.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
I think you're cherry picking to say he's average
He has pretty terrible career DRS, UZR, and UZR/150 numbers.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I don't like that you keep using UZR in your arguments.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
well Tez brought up
“statistically the same as average”.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
That's not the point.
Osfan21 used to be staunchly against UZR! What changed???
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
My guess is...
… it changed when he realized he could use UZR to contradict someone.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
My whole point about UZR
was that there were lots of situations where it was contradicted by other measures – when all the measures point to the same thing I’m all for including it.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
What?
How is that dishonest? I don’t think it’s a perfect stat, so when it clashes with other available stats I disregard it, but when they all point to the same thing I accept it. What’s wrong with that?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
you're using it selectively
only to ever support yourself, and disregarding it and/or disparaging it in all other circumstances. How is that honest?
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I didn't say to support myself
I said when all the stats point in the same direction. In statistics you eliminate questionable outliers all the time – it’s very much not dishonest.
I’m not saying that when I think a guy is a good fielder and UZR says he’s shit I disregard it I’m saying that when I look at the Fangraphs defensive stats and most seem pretty solid and then UZR is shit I question the hell out of it, but when it’s all consistent I don’t.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I remember you used to hate UZR
and that’s not the (only) reason why you hated it IIRC.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
LET'S GO TO THE VIDEOTAPE
Just kidding, I’ve got work to do today.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Fielding stats...
UZR is decent, but flawed (as the further away from the center of a zone the player starts, the more inaccurate the rating is). Also, Young’s career UZR ratings show that he posts bad numbers the year he first plays a position, then steadily improves.
UZR/150 is a worthless stat. It takes a small sample size and extrapolates to 150 games.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
I know what they are.
I just hate them.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
I'll let Andrew or somebody tackle this one
but none of his defensive stats look average to me.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Real quick
Michael Young has one season/position combination where is not in negative numbers for +/-. That was 2003 at shortstop, when he had 0 (exactly average). Everything else he’s ever done is below average.
Further, the scout media types that I read all agree universally that he’s horrible, horrible on defense.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
JJ certainly
couldn’t be any worse than the mess we have going on over there at the present.
But why not attempt to extract some value from a club closer to contention that could use him?
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 19, 2012 10:12 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
you wouldn't move Machado to third to keep Hardy at short
you’d only move him to third if he can’t play short. You’d move Hardy.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
So it could work!
Andrew says so!
Hopefully they both have another good year and we can test this out in 2013.
then Reynolds can DH and continue to hit bombs into the 2nd deck.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
well, you wait for Machado and Schoop to develop
there’s no problem logjam at all until Machado and/or Schoop force the issue. And then you make a decision based on what your scouts say. But in general you shouldn’t move your potential number 1 overall prospect off his position unless he can’t play it.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Is Schoop really the answer?
Hardy is only 29 and has shown that he can hit with power and drive in runs.
I don’t how you trade a guy with proven talent (Hardy) and replace him with a guy who hasn’t played in the majors yet.
you had the comment about what players I am most excited for and I think this situation will be a main focus for me. If even half of the young players the O’s have do well and some of the pitchers figure it out 2013 might not be a rebuilding year.
I am excited for 2014, haha.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Because Hardy is nearing his decline phase
By the time Schoop, Machado, and other guys will be ready, Hardy will be turning into Brian Roberts. So you trade him now to get more guys who could contribute at the same time your young stars will be playing at their peaks.
by Holymittens on Jan 19, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
I know what you mean
Brian Roberts didn’t decline, he just got severely injured. I don’t put that one him.
I know we are in this ’moneyball" era where u gotta shuffle pieces all the time to maximize value but if Hardy can hit for 4-5 more years I think they should keep him.
Obviously if some team offers a no brainer trade then you do it, but to just pencil him in as traded seems like putting the cart b4 the horse.
None of this matters if the O’s rank 30th in pitching. Christ…
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
all I'm saying is that
you a) don’t anticipate Schoop or Machado even cracking the big leagues until they prove they are on the precipice, and b) at that point, if Hardy is still the shortstop and Machado is still a shortstop, you need to prove why Hardy should stay at the position over Machado, and not the other way around.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
plus
markakis and roberts will be off the books. Joey votto anyone?
by mdterps0325 on Jan 19, 2012 10:52 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Have to lock up Wieters first.
and if turns into the player we all imagine he can be, that will require a significant shiny of moolah.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 19, 2012 11:04 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
how does 'amount'
turn into ‘shiny’? Stupid auto correct.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 19, 2012 11:05 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
It's not a question of inability at SS...
It’s that Machado projects to add bulk, which will increase his power and possibly decrease his range. Ryan Zimmerman could play a very good SS, but he does great at 3B. If the overall better defensive value is Hardy at SS and Machado at 3B, rather than vice versa, you make the move.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
No reason to anticipate moving Machado off short until he needs to be
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I think a good front office always anticipates...
… that way Machado can get in some work at both positions prior to the decision being forced. If it’s a possibility, prepare for it.
For all we know, Machado could be Brooks Robinson at 3B.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
I can't remember, did we give him some sort of no-trade?
or was it just a verbal promise not to move him for the rest of last season?
limited no-trade clause
so says Cots Contracts. he can block trades to 8 different clubs
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Did he get a no trade clause?
Not that he would never waive it, but he seemed to be happy to stay here
I thought that the likely plan with Machado is have him in high-A all of this season.
I’d prefer to do that, unless he really mashes the ball.
Personally...
I want him in Fredrick through May. Bowie through the end of the year. And on to Norfolk next year.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Ha....Stafon Johnson sued USC for his weightlifting accident.
Only in America could you get away with bull like that.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I think its crap.
He’s suing somebody for an accident?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
It's at his own risk with normal expectations
your spotter jerking off and allowing your wind pipe to be crushed doesn’t seem like normal expectations.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Eh...I have my doubts about that.
I never let go of the bar until I’m 100 percent positive its back on the pegs. I can’t imagine a situation where both of them aren’t at least a little at fault.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
He didn't let it go! His muscles failed.
That’s the point of a spotter!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
No....the guy claimed that the spotter knocked the bar out of his hands...not that his muscles had failed.
Somehow I’m not buying that.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
He's talking about the liftoff he got
It’s pretty basic spotting – don’t let go until the guy has it. Obviously since it fell on his throat and almost killed him he didn’t have it. When your job is to help kids lift weights that is WELL within your knowledge base. What’s not to buy?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
This is what he said:
What we say occurred is that the bar was basically knocked out of his hand, causing it to fall on Stafon’s neck, almost causing him to die.
That’s not what you’re saying.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Everything I'm reading is referencing the placing of the bar INTO his hands.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I dunno....but that quote came straight from his lawyer.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
I was reading this part
In the lawsuit, Johnson alleged that former USC assistant strength and conditioning coach Jamie Yanchar was “negligently and carelessly inattentive” in placing a bench-press bar back into the player’s hands after an exercise, causing the bar to fall on Johnson and rupture his larynx.
But almost regardless of whether it was during the liftoff or an accidental bumping it’s 100% the spotters fault. When somebody is benching 275 pounds you have to be paying attention as the spotter or else somebody gets hurt. That’s basic weight lifting common sense.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
And even if Johnson was a little at fault, it doesn't mean USC isn't liable
very few jurisdictions have full bars based on contributory negligence anymore. His damages would just likely be reduced by the percent he’s found responsible.
Eh
settlements happen all the time just to avoid the expense and poor press even if they feel no responsibility.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Generally not if its totally frivilous
you don’t want to set a precedent for people to come after you. If they were totally confident there was no case, it’d be really easy to crush him on court and move on.
Truly frivolous lawsuits are quite rare.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
And crushing a student who was seriously injured in and of itself could easily result in bad press.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
he sued the school and strength and conditioning coach for negligence
i’m assuming the school and coach felt their was some chance that he would have won in court since they were willing to settle with him out of court
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
not necessarily
time, money, publicity. didn’t it say he only wanted $23K? I’m sure that warrents a setlement
I doubt it was only that much
the reports just say “unspecified damages greater than $25k,” which to me just sounds like a jurisdictional hook, though i don’t know exactly how the California court system works.
I am happy it wasn't in the millions
if it is as specific as around 25K the amount actually sounds reasonable to make up for medical bills and lost time training. I am very against profiting off of lawsuits based on potential and all for lawsuits that appropriately award damages.
fair point
i just didn’t agree with twisted’s original point that it was ridiculous of him to sue. i mean, the guy lost out on the chance to make a lot more money than that due to the incident.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
But it's not the school's fault in any way!
Maybe I should sue my parents for not giving me the genes of a multi-millinoare athlete.
It’s a money grab. The school didn’t want the bad press or to put money into defending themselves. Lots of lawsuits are settled because it would be cheaper that way.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 19, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
How is it not the schools fault?
Assuming the allegation is true one of their employees was responsible for spotting this guy, and failed to act as required of him. That negligence resulted in harm. Without any more facts, thats pretty textbook torts.
Where was that allegation made?
I didn’t see that. Granted I only read a piece on the injury around when it happened but that was never mentioned.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 19, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
I haven't read the actual complaint, but this is from the LA Times
USC has settled a lawsuit brought by former running back Stafon Johnson, who was injured in 2009 when a bar carrying 275 pounds fell on his neck in the school’s weight room.
A hearing in Los Angeles Superior Court had been scheduled for Wednesday, but it was taken off the calendar because a notice of settlement had been filed, a court clerk said.
Johnson filed the personal-injury suit against USC and former assistant strength coach Jamie Yanchar in January 2011. The suit sought unspecified damages, claiming Yanchar negligently caused the bar to fall during a training session Sept. 28, 2009, because he was "distracted and not paying attention" to Johnson.
OK I retract my comment.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 19, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
It is not a money grab - it's seeking reimbursement for damages.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
if he was asking for millions
I would call it a money grab but the numbers being thrown out sound like compensation which I am ok with.
eh
nobody can make a mistake anymore because of a potential lawsuit. nobody can make a decision becuase they might make a mistake. nobody can be a good leader becuase they don’t want to make a decision. shit never gets done becuase crappy leaders never want to make a decision. I can’t work effeciently becuase I have to change my work 10 times becuase nobody can make a decision, feel confident and stand by it. I can’t get a raise becuase my projects can’t get out on time and under budget.
it's still early
and yet we’ve already entered the bitter, ranting portion of the day
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
all the time
the problem is people don’t want to be put in a position of having to own up. If I screw up and you call me out on it I have no problem admitting it. I live by the saying “Everyone always makes a mistake, just don’t make it again and learn from it.”
I think thats a corporate culture problem, and not a legal one
its pretty hard to be successfully sued for screwing up a business decision
Awesome.
Bridges are so cool.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 19, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
When you completely screw up, sure
Indian River Inlet Bridge in DE, for example…
DE basically had to scrap it and start over again.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Well, I didn't mean YOU personally....
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Sure everyone makes a mistake
but if somebody gets injured (physically, financially, emotionally, whatever) then they need to be reimbursed – that’s what lawsuits are for.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
And its not just a mistake
it has to be a mistake beyond what a reasonable person would make. Someone isn’t liable just because something went wrong.
Maybe from an individual perspective
but from a corporate perspective that’s not entirely how it works, right?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
kinda tough
lets say I design something in accordance with a standard. my design fails and someone dies. Does this mean it is not my fault because I blindly followed a standard (standards change all the time because of failures)? Or as a professional engineer, should I have fully understood what I was designing and questioned the standard if I felt it was wrong? If I did question it and someone above me (who is by the book) says our client says to follow the standard, who’s fault is it? This is really what I am talking about. The potential to be at fault and not making a decision.
Well, thats a little different
I was referring primary to business decisions, like ‘do we accept the contract to build this bridge in the first place?’ Thats a really difficult decision to question from a legal perspective.
What you’re proposing has a bunch of different layers to it. If we’re just talking negligence, adherence to professional standards, approval from superiors, etc. are all factors in determining if you acted as a reasonable person in your position would. Odds are if you adhered to the current standards and had someone else sign off on it, you’d be ok. This is all hypothetical though and is an area that i’m not that familiar with, so don’t take this as actual advice.
people get called in all the time
for litigation when shit goes down. I have never been on trial but as you know, lawyers will make you look like you shot that person point blank and make you wish your parents never gave you those damn legos.
It's the high quality of teh "duck is OLD!" jokes that keeps it funny
Nicely played.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
well
my wife teaches middle school and apparently those kids don’t know what CDs are. I may not be too far off with you.
Actually...
Lego began operations in 1934 and lincoln logs were invented in 1916… a fairly negligible difference in duck’s lifespan.
Besides, I’m pretty sure duck grew up playing with this:
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by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
So you're saying the wheel had already been invented...
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Atta boy!
I refuse to rec anything he writes until the Orioles win the World Series! Who’s with me!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
See you in 2 and a half weeks!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
ftfy
See you in2 and a half weeks4 days!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Always the naysayer...
you have yet to be right this year though, so forgive me if I don’t run in fear of your prediction
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
well,
i was right about the redskins beating the Giants.
TWICE.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Congrats!
Just not about the Giants winning the division, winning in the first round, or beating the Packers in the second round. Or about John Beck winning a single game.
But hey, kudos on those 2 games.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
they both felt GREAT :)
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
twss
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 19, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Very nice, sir
RECtacular, even.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Not as good as the past 2 weeks have felt for me :P
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
i played with lincoln logs!!
LOVED those.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
YESSSSS
with the little chimneys
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Hello CC
Don’t forget tinker toys !
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Jan 19, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
erector sets!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
My dad has lincoln logs, legos, and erector sets at his house
He swears that they’re for the grandkids, but they’re not. They are totally for him.
On the spectrum of "frivolous" lawsuits
This one seems like it’s pretty far over to the appropriate side of things.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Fellow chivers
I saw in the DAR the other day that Bill Fucking Murray will be sold for a little bit sometime today…
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 19, 2012 10:05 AM EST reply actions
3pm est
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 19, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, I was totally going to mention that for you, but forgot
Sorry! I’m good with my black chive tee though.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
i just got two Murrays
one for me and one for the girlfriend..
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 19, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
So, according to my profile page, I joined Camden Chat one year ago today!
And I just wanted to thank Bowser, the Troopas, and Goombas for helping to maintain such a fun, knowledgeable, and generally hate-free community alive! This has become one of the maybe 3 websites I use most, and I’m really thankful that you guys give your time to it.
by DaveAA on Jan 19, 2012 11:00 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
If you're just trying to collect a sentiment rec....
….. it worked.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
So
Facebook argument: using random combinations of letters to search for words when playing Words With Friends and other similar apps. Cheating? Part of the game?
This is without leaving the app. No looking at the awesome site that shows all the two- and three-letter words, no consulting a dictionary or another person.
Deleted the app 3 days after I downloaded it
When they release and English-only version, I’ll be interested. “CASA” and “AR” and “PE” are not English words, no matter what WWF may think.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
No it's not.
R is the letter R.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
IT'S A LIE!!!!!!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I'd say he's being hostile about technicalities allowing cheesy two-letter combinations in WWF
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Watch out
those humourless nerds at the World Wildlife Fund may force them to change the initials.
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
According to dictionary.com, pe is the 17th letter of the hebrew alphabet
Duck only plays anti-semitic board games
English, mutha.... DO YOU SPEAK IT?????
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I just use "Cheats with Friends"
Its a free app and automatically gives you the highest possible total word everytime. (Hint: No one play with me… I routinely get 650+)
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
sounds like "you" don't get any points at all
but the computer is really good at scoring 650+ points
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Well, yeah... but I have to properly operate the app.
Hey now, it’s hard work playing 36 games at once!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
this is my thought as well
that was my stance exactly. I don’t mind it because a) if you use a word against me I’m going to remember it and use it against you later, and b) because after I find a word once I’ll remember it.
Agree also
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Willikers.
Did not mean to start any arguments…..
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I can play.
By the way, I won yesterday’s game starting in Europe (actually….I started in Asia but I took Europe first).
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
I'm come to terms with the fact that I'm just a shitty player
I never really was any good at strategy games, even though I really enjoy playing them. I’ll play anything, from Risk all the way up to Twilight Imperium, even though I’ll lose 90% of the time.
WHERE DID THIS COME FROM?
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 19, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
These are so awesome and appeal to both my nerd and sports freak sides
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Those are fucking sweet
Too bad there’s no Redskins one. I would totally buy one if there was.
by Holymittens on Jan 19, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Redskins would probably be hard to make
the native American head probably doesn’t translate well as 7 pixels
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
you're indians!
“No, we’re really not. This isn’t India, this is America!”
“It is? oh. Ahhh, you’re still Indians!”
/LouisCK’d
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I like the helmet designs.
I think most of the I (run) (city) ones look like crap.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yea not a fan of those really, but the helmets are so awesome
I found a L Giants helmet one on their ebay account (sold out on their site), so if anyone is looking for one that’s out of stock, check there.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
And for the Ravens fans...
they don’t have a helmet logo yet, but they do have a running logo shirt (though it is Ray Lewis and not Ray Rice for some ridiculous reason…).
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
WIZARDS WIN!!!!
Hey kids, don’t forget, the Wizards beat the #1 team in the NBA last night AND scored over 100 points!
What does that mean to you? Papa Johns giving 50% off if you enter the code WIZ50 only for DC/MD/VA Papa Johns though.
GET SOME!!!!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 11:52 AM EST reply actions
Well, they have to win AND score 100
This might literally be the only time it happens this season. I had some SWEET ass VIP seats to the game and took Cam (my 14-month old) to his first game. Just a fantastic night! I even came into work two hours late just because.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Shiiiiit
I just ordered a pizza on Tuesday. I don’t really want to order another one so soon.
by Holymittens on Jan 19, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
So, happy to report my panic over midterms was stupid
With a little studying I feel like I did well on all the tests.
I like throwing baseballs & footballs. Walks on beach are cool, especially w/wife & kids or some Bieber beats. Shoes are my passion and I love to ride bikes. - Guts' Twitter Bio
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 19, 2012 12:02 PM EST reply actions
High school in a nutshell
As long as you aren’t a moron you’ll do fine.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I never studied once in high school
Graduated with a 3.75 GPA and scored a 1560 on my SATs.
by Holymittens on Jan 19, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Well, sure, if you wanna
But I was more just agreeing with the “as long as you aren’t a moron you’ll do fine” part.
I did terrible in college.
by Holymittens on Jan 19, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Dammmmnn
my future brother in law got 1510 or something, perfect on the math.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
I got a perfect score on the math.
Felt like that was super easy.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, if you know math
I could never figure out how anyone scored under 700 on the verbal on the old one, and that was back before they adjusted the scores in the early 90s to inflate the verbal scores. We each have our strengths.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I didn't score below 700 on the verbal....
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
You got over 1500 too?
Jesus who knew there were so many 1500+ CCers.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I only got a 1410
but I fucked YOUR wife!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Jan 19, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Is his wife hot?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I got a 1320 and was damn proud...
Although I was hungover.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
1310
And thought, “Yup, that’s about right. 710 verbal, 600 math. That’s me”
Now, that 710 would have been a 770 10 years later, but whatevs…..
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I think mine was like 720 and then 590
I wasn’t GREAT at math.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Dear lord I scored the same as WW...
I am dissapoint.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Oh, wait!
I got a 1340! I totally forgot! I’m awesome again!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
now I'm trying to remember
I thought I got a 1320, but I think I got the same in verbal/math and I’m now thinking I got 670/670.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I probably would have done better
had I not stayed up the night before doing whipits. I got 100% on the analogies and then fell asleep around reading comprehension and finished with a 1200. I was ok with it because I got into college.
I had a 2.4 GPA in High School though
Never took my books home once. Just copied everyone’s homework between periods.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
And you got a 2.4???
Jeez…that’s basically all I had to do for a 4.0+
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see how
In a class like Spanish or History or something there is a degree of memorizing that has to be done. Or handing in a 15-page paper my Sr. year etc etc. I don’t get the people that say they put in NO effort and got a 4.0. Either you memorized a list of shit for a test, or you got shitty scores. You don’t just automatically know some of that garbage.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yea...I had to memorize stuff for German.
But it usually only took me once or twice thru a list of words to remember. The tests weren’t hard at all.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
if you’re getting 4.0+ without writing lengthy term papers that delve deeply into literature/biology/etc., then you’re going to a shitty HS.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I wrote them
I just wrote them in 2 hours instead of the 12 everybody else did.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I don't remember having to write lots of papers.
In any case, I got them done FAST. None of that “oh I spent like 2 weeks on this!” No….I didn’t do that. Night before it was due was about the best I could muster.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
so, i will repeat
if you’re writing a 20-page paper the night before it’s due, and you’re getting a 4.2, it says something about your classmates.
HS is, by and large, graded on a curve.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Jan 19, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
who the hell wrote a 20 page paper in high school?
And I did the same thing in college and I don’t think you can make that argument there either.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Um, I did.
I kind of assumed others did as well. That’s what a “term paper” was for me.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I think the typical papers in HS
were 8-12. Again you keep implying that my school wasn’t good, but that’s just not accurate.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Ditto
If you can easily organize your thoughts and know what you are looking for, a 15 odd page paper in a short period of time isn’t that outlandish.
seriously?
You think you can whip out 15 pages on the themes of heroes in 19th century English Literature in a few hours?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
i'm assuming you're not researching the night before
but given HS schedule, your’re not reseraching for weeks either.
Yeah, I’m including research.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I didn't say anything about your school
I said ANY school where you can write a term paper the night before a class and get a 4.0 is not a great school.
Our typical papers were probably 5-10 pages. Term papers were certainly longer.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
That's why I said you implied it and you just did it again.
I went to a great school and did just that, so BOOM.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Your school may have been "great"
but your classmates were obviously idiots.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
These "idiots" consistently make top universities around the country.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
so, you two went to the same school?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I think he may have actually gone to the one school consistently ranked higher than mine in the area
TL did you got o TJ?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
why are you guys being so coy?
where did you go to high school, or are you afraid of identity theft if you reveal it?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
such grace and beauty
probably the 2 ugliest school buildings in the history of schools.
Haha look up centennial on
urban dictionary.
I loved it when they slightly renovated some parts
and then promptly painted the walls mental hospital green.
@sibsinExile
by SibiGnana on Jan 19, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I lol'd at "mental hospital green"
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wife went to Oakland Mills
Apparently, quite the preppy school in the mid-80s. Not so much now, it seems.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
i always thought oakland mills, hammond, and wilde lake
had the worst reputation of the HoCo schools. Oakland Mills was definitely towards the bottom while I was in school in the 90s.
IMO, hammond was a fantastic school despite what the rich assholes from centennial, atholton, or glenelg try to tell you. No offense to any alum of those schools.
I loved Wilde Lake.
Pretty damn good performing arts which is what I was into in HS. It was very diverse to, which I wouldn’t give up for the world. I think it got a bad rap for including some of the section 8 housing but it didn’t cause me any problems.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
similar feeling for me about hammond
the cool thing was that there was a lot of co-mingling of different types of people. It wasn’t cliquish or segregated at all.
My crazy GF in high school went to Atholton and her and her crazy family thought I should transfer there cause I was throwing my life away by going to an inferior school. Fuck that.
Washington Post
You went to the number 1 ranked high school in VA!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
In the whole fuckin' metro area biatch!
But as ZK has pointed out – filled with idiots when I was there.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
apparently so.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
OK,
So #1 in the DC area. This is wat were talking about? I mean, West Virginia has a #1 ranked school as well, right?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
saw that.
and it’s not even counting private schools
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Also known as
Pay-For-Grades factories
/not really
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
They are.
Private school kids will admit that too.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
maybe some of them
not mine, for sure.
I went to Park. There were certainly rich kids there who were getting coddled. There were also a lot of not-rich-but-smart kids who busted their asses.
And this is my point. I was one of the 2 or 3 smartest guys in my class. I put in a modicum of effort and did very well, but there were always a couple of smart kids who actually enjoyed applying themselves, and they schooled me. When I took the time to really work on a project, I’d stay even with them or beat them. When I didn’t, they always won.
If you don’t have any smart kids who are also applying themselves in your class, you don’t have a very competitive class, and ergo as competitive a school.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
46 schools who are better than you!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
If that list only includes public schools,
being number 1 much, much less impressive.
Man, I thought I could count on O’sfan21 on being modest.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Central High School...
Prince George’s County. Where being white got you halfway to an A.
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 20, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
I did not go to TJ.
I did get in, however.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Where are rankings?
I’m curious to see how my high school stacked up. Robert E. Lee represent!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
They were at my tournament this weekend
Go, um, Lancers?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
They didn't have a great weekend
http://teamdelmarva.net/DelmarvaClassic/2012BRMC/tourney_site/rtltm012.htm
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Here's the Post's ranking
there are a bunch of different ones.
DC ranking first:
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/highschoolchallenge/schools/2011/list/local/
National ranking here:
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/highschoolchallenge/schools/2011/list/national/
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
That list has a conspicuous I-95 / I-270 bias for the Maryland ranking...
You’ve gotta go pretty far down to get to a school from a county that doesn’t have one of the major interstates.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Also,
Why isn’t TJ on that list?
My high school is 100 baby.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Maybe because TJ has admissions requirements?
Not sure – this isn’t exactly the list I was thinking of – there’s some ranking that includes TJ where TJ is 1 and HB is like 8th or something.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
So this is a list of best high schools
once you remove all of the good schools. It reminds of a scene in Singles when Matt Dillon, lead singer of his band, brags, “We’re really big Belgium.”
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
well how many public schools have admissions requirements?
Almost none.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Love that soundtrack
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
what is TJ?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Thomas Jefferson
Magnet school in NoVA.
And I loved the Paul Westerberg songs on the Singles soundtrack, which made me an outcast in college.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
b/c...
you’ve got a dyslexic heart?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 19, 2012 2:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
My heart could use some glasses!
I remember one of suite mates said he hated the song and asked, “What’s up with all of the Na Na Na?”
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Love that tune
and I usually don’t like alt-rock pop. But Dyslexic Heart is a great song.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
by duck on Jan 19, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha
Yeah you’re right – great school filled with idiots.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
if you got a 4.0 by doing what you said,
then yeah. because in a better school, there would be some people actually applying themselves and kicking your ass and knocking you down to a B.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I mean you're just flat out wrong
but whatever. I learned very early how to structure a paper and then I was really good at figuring out what teachers were hoping to see. Once those two things are out of the way it’s really not very challenging or time consuming.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I mean, you're just flat out ignoring the facts
If nobody around you took more than “a couple hours” to write their papers, you went to a shitty school.
If, conversely, lots of people around you took more than “a couple hours” to write their papers and they still couldn’t get a better grade than you, you went to an even shittier school.
Did they teach you logic in high school?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Is this a response to me?
I think almost everybody at my school spent way more time on their papers than I did – I was just better at writing them than they were.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I hear you
my point is, if there was absolutely nobody at your school who could drive your grade down by actually applying themselves, by definition, your classmates aren’t that bright.
sure, you’re smart and you can write papers quickly. but were there no other smart people at your school who were also ambitious and wanted to write a better paper?
it sounds like there weren’t. so it sounds like your school, whatever its reputation is, didn’t have a lot of competition at the highest levels.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Is only one person allowed to get an A per paper?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Only one or two people are getting an A+
I thought somewhere you wrote you were getting a 4.2 GPA
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
4.2 doesn't mean I got an A+ on every paper
It means I averaged an A with some boost from AP courses.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Hmm not sure what happened to the rest of this
or why it posted twice, but I went on to say it just means that I averaged an A and got a boost from APs.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
the double post thing has been happneing to me today
it actually only posted once and the content is there. you have to refresh the page.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Once you know what the teachers are looking for...
It’s wicked easy to get an A. You don’t even have to write a great paper. Just hit the terms, length, style, etc that the teacher grades highly for.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
Hit the content
Seriously, when I grade essays, I’m looking at a topic sentence, basic grammar, and DID YOU HIT THE CONTENT? If I ask you about Cuba’s state of affairs after the Spanish-American War and you break out the words “protectorate” and “Platt Amendment”, I’ve got a fairly good idea that you know what you’re talking about.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
That's a different story.
Wikipedia can tell you what the “Platt Amendment” is though. It doesn’t really require additional work. If you listened in class, you could easily churn out papers overnight. Hell, I did this in college too and it turned out okay.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
The only problem with "hit the content"
Is that they may be able to drop some keywords from a basic Wikipedia search and still have zero knowledge of the subject.
But then, when I was grading papers, I was exceptionally brutal. I graded on a Tez-curve, which is that I have no problem giving everyone a C, a D, or an F if they didn’t earn a B or really prove something exceptional and earn an A.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
In today's day and age
I would prefer in class essay tests rather than research papers. Research is very easy now with the access to resources that we have. Back when you had to use the card catalog to find anything it was a different story.
doesn't reflect well on your teachers
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I agree man
I churned out a shitty “last-minute” (really the last week) term paper about 15 pages and was graded accordingly. We were supposed to do all the notecards/source pages/footnotes etc. And I just whipped it out (so to speak). I don’t see how any high school kid is churning out a quality 15 page termpaper “the night before”.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
I never got an A on papers I wrote in two hours.
I have ADHD/Executive Functioning Disorder so I would put things off until the last minute, and end up staying up until 1-2 AM finishing something.
Not effective, but my final average was a 3.85, so something went right.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Honestly, I wish I'd been more like you
Coasting through high school probably set me up for failure more than is likely if I’d been challenged.
If we're doing this...
1380 on the old scoring system, 2110 on the new one. Got me in to college so I was happy.
funny how alike we are in some areas
and how different in others.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Haha
That’s the beauty of it. We’re bizarro each other.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck, I only got an 1170 i think
and i took a damn prep course. FML.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I took a 9-week "minimester" for SAT Verbal at HS
My drunk English teacher just handed out handouts. Seriously, we all knew her vodka flask was in her desk.
Improved my verbal 120 points over my first attempt.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I scored near you but I skipped the prep course
I went to one class and then played hookie for the rest. I figured if we were just going to go through the 10 real SATS book each day that I could do it on my own.
Yea
unlike some a hats on this blog, I am not naturally smart enough to excel over others and I gotta actually study.
the verbal stuff was easy for me
but my math is awful.
I took the new SAT though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
1600
…and I was only one of like 40 people in my class to do so (go TJ!)
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 19, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
I hate you guys.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
don't worry, so do we
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 19, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
You hate you guys?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Although I can't hate you too much since you went to UVA
and decided against being a turkey.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
You chose that....other...school in VA, didn't you?
Hey turkey!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
They had a plenty of popped collars at tech too, bud.
Don’t kid yourself.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Virginia
The state that is so inferior to Maryland, even the federal government recognizes that fact. (Maryland gets the entire Potomac, instead of dividing it down the middle like most rivers.)
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
There's a reason the Pentagon is in VA, Jack.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 19, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Low bid contracts?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
by duck on Jan 19, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hehe....you just described the consulting world!
I forgot who the astronaut was, but somebody asked him what he was thinking before he lifted off on one of the Apollo missions. His response: “I couldn’t help but think about the fact this craft was built by the lowest bidder.”
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Alan Shepard, I believe
It’s a very sobering feeling to be up in space and realize that one’s safety factor was determined by the lowest bidder on a government contract.
Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/alan_shepard.html#ixzz1jw2DPJb8
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Ha...that's it!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Although Virginia has been contesting this fact for Maryland's entire existence.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
And in 400 years, Virginia's made no headway...
… cause they’re inferior.
On the other hand, my sister’s neighbor who teaches yoga and is named Virginia is definitely superior in every way a guy could hope for.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Me and my 670 verbal will just be over here sitting quietly in the corner.
But I did get 750 on the math. That’s why I are an engineer!
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
by Zeke McGeek on Jan 19, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
We are nearly clones
my 1410 was split up 670V 740M.
You beat me by 10 points in the Math. That’s probably just one question.
::shakes fist::
McGEEEEEEEEK!!!!!!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
See?
You shouldn’t have gone back and changed that answer.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
by Zeke McGeek on Jan 19, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
I KNEW it was (C)! I KNEW IT!!!!!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I guess I need to move over to the MFY blog then
I know I am smarter than they are.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
and he designs rockets on Apache helicopters for a living
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
And that's the kind of person
I want designing rockets for Apache helicopters.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I did perfect on the verbal
Not perfect on the math.
I figure if I’d studied I could have, but I’m a lazy fucker.
by Holymittens on Jan 19, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't approach perfection on either
But I’m also a lazy fucker.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
That's pretty amazing
the SAT I mean. The GPA is weak if you ask me – 4.2 mothafucka and you kicked my ass on the SAT. I can’t imagine trying any less than I did.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I think only one or two people in my class got higher than a 4.0
Our school didn’t have much opportunity to get weighted grades. I don’t even recall how you did it.
I did pass 4 or 5 AP tests, though.
by Holymittens on Jan 19, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Weighted GPA's are weird
And they make it hard to compare GPA’s. I had a 4.7 cuz honors classes were on a A – 5.0, B – 4.0, etc. scale.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
That's why most colleges don't even want to see them.
The transcripts our HS sends out doesn’t even include them.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
We had a bit of weighted thing going on for AP classes.
It was stupid though. Half of our top 10 in high school never took one AP class. The guy who was 8th in the class barely even spoke English. He just got A’s in all of his general education classes.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah and we were the exact opposite
Because of the inflated GPA’s, like 23 of our top 25 were people in 3+ honors classes, several of whom got more than their fair share of B’s and C’s.
To add fuel to the fire, almost everyone’s GPA included straight A’s in super easy Religion classes.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Hell my GPA was 93%
we didn’t have that weird 0-4 scale.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
GPA is the Batting Average of High School measurement
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
No it isnt.
It implies whether you actually tried or not, seeing as though that’s the only way you’d get lower than a B in any of those classes.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
ehhhh
I didn’t try at all and batted damn near .400. I think GPA can tell you a bunch of different things – how hard you tried, whether you can easily understand what teachers are looking for and the quickest/easiest way to give it to them (what I did), whether you cheated, etc.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
it really depends on the school
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
To some extent
I think I technically went to one of the toughest schools in VA/DC/MD by all the various ratings.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
If GPA reflected effort
there wouldn’t be websites telling students who the easy teachers are.
I didn't try either, but my version of not trying and the lazy idiot's version of not trying were pretty different.
I at least showed up to class and copied my homework off of somebody else at lunch or at my locker before the day started. The lazy idiots wouldn’t even bother doing that.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Right
also I was an awesome high school paper writer which is the easiest thing ever.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I used to print them off essaydepot dot com (not even sure if it still exists)
I got away with it 3-4 times.
I got caught being a smartass. Everyone said our senile teacher never even read the papers before grading them so like the 16 year old moron I was I put DEAD in the middle of the paper:
“Mr. Becker, if you are reading this I’ll give you $10”. Well, he wasn’t the brightest bulb and would never have guessed I plagiarized. So he went to the principal to show the blatant disrespect and the sharp principal immediately knew this looked like someone else’s work. BUUUUUUUUUSTED!!!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
huh
and when i was in high scholl there weren’t no interwebz
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I agree with the showing up sentiment
just show up and turn your work in and you will do alright.
But an A in gym is worth the same as an A in Algebra
much like a Jeter squib is worth the same as a 500’ HR in BA. I think it’s quite similar actually.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
A high GPA says nothing about students that are diverse
which, imo, is better for colleges and jobs.
Who wants to get a 4.0 in high school unless u are just gifted?
Pay attention, get involved in sports/clubs/community. Don’t waste all your time in a book.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
False.
4.2 GPA in high school. Three sport athlete and captained two of those teams. Also headed up a number of school organizations.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
by Gamecock24 on Jan 19, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Me too.
Now I sit at a desk all day. I can’t see how this is better than what I had in high school.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
You can go to the bathroom without asking for permission
and I’m assuming you can eat at your desk.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Good point.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
you can even go to the bathroom ON your desk
like WW does.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Jan 19, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HA!
Rec’d.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
This is true
But I am alone all day, see only a bleak horizon of disappointment ahead of me, and don’t get to do something new every hour or so to keep my mind stimulated.
That's because
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
You're not counting some running thing as a "sport" are you?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Fuck you.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
This
Running is how you condition for a sport.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Unless you play baseball.
You think David Ortiz does lots of running?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Well I look at everything from a pitchers prospective.
I had to run all the damn time. But yea, baseball players normally rarely run. especially long distances.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns6YSvCsVJM
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
by O'sFan21 on Jan 19, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Again...fuck you :-)
Triathlons are ridiculously difficult.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
So is playing Chopin's Revolutionary Etude
Doesn’t make piano a sport
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Jan 19, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Got me to two state championships
How many did you and your “real” sport go to? Not regional finals, but state finals.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
This.
We were in way better condition than any of those “real” sport athletes anyways.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Wrestling
while not for me. those guys are athletes. I just hate the whole weight class thing. high schools shouldn’t kill their bodies for weight loss while they are developing at a young age.
They don't as much any more
Rules have changed A LOT in the last 5-7 years.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Yeah...
There may still be coaches that “strongly imply” a wrestler should lose weight, but they’re rapidly losing ground. Most coaches now recognize that a healthy wrestler will be better than a cut-down wrestler.
I wrestled at my natural weight every year, except my senior, when I weighed 125 and wrestled 140.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
The doctors also have a say now
you are certified by a physician at the beginning of the season and it pretty much forces you to stay in a semi-healthy range. Although a lot of drs just signed off wherever you were that day.
Yeah.
A lot of schools are getting athletic trainers (my sister is a high school trainer) and they help to keep everyone healthy.
We did have to get certified at the beginning of the season. We could never drop below the weight we were certified at, but could go up as much as we wanted. However, once we went up, we could never drop below our original certification or two classes below our highest weigh-in.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
MPSSAA adopted a spreadsheet 7 or so years ago
Certification can actually change week to week, as you’re only allowed to drop 1.5% of your weight per week. So you can be cert’d for 162 at the end of the season, and have to weigh in at 182 the first dual meet as you wait the seven weeks to take it off healthily.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Ah, nice.
I didn’t know that, as I’ve been out of wrestling for longer than that.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, anyone can train their body to run
sports requires strategy to other ppl against you, adapting to them, etc.
If anyone could do it, there'd be a hell of a lot more good runners out there.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Running is boring as hell for ppl to do
there’s this new fad, apparently you just run for an extended period of time.
There's a lot of strategy in racing.
I’m sure someone who actually ran CC can speak to this more than I can, since I know I’m not athletically gifted or working hard enough to actually win something, but there’s a lot of strategy in racing and every distance is different in terms of how much am I holding back to make sure I finish.
You win or lose a CC race in the second mile
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Depends on the distance :-)
But yea…..I saw so many guys (good runners, too) just go burn the first mile and die later. Terrible strategy.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
This.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
That’s not the point of the sport — other people are trying to finish ahead of you.
Run in a race and then tell me it’s not a sport.
Nobody is trying to tackle you in baseball.
Tackling…hell….touching…in basketball is illegal.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Some contact in running is as well.
If I can find the pictures of what happened to me the first time I ran at states, I’ll post it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Um, yeah?
Dude, I was the king of an elbow to the solar plexus when I passed guys in races. Threw one dude blocking into a pond once. No officials in HS CC = anything goes.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
"blocking me", that should say
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
You ass!
I don’t think I ever threw a legit elbow in a race. I did need 7 stitches to close a wound after the jerk I spent a whole mile chasing down spiked me. He wasn’t even subtle about it. He knew exactly what he was doing.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
It isn't against the rules.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
We were a bunch of wrestlers running CC
so we ran like we wrestled. Just, in my case, infinitely better than I ever wrestled.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
If anyone is going to attack cross country as a sport
Hey, I’m gonna be a jerk in my defense of it.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
that's the one where all those skinny kids that can't play a sport run around right?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Everybody on my varsity cross country team played another varsity sport.
5 of our top 10 my senior year of high school played college level for something other than running.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
You mean everybody on your cross country team played A sport.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
They participated in multiple sports.
I love that we’re arguing with a guy who can’t even run a mile.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
I bet I could crack 6 minutes right now.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'd put cash money on that one.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Would you?
haha I’m lifting at 3, but would consider it tomorrow.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'll match your bet 2 to 1
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I did cross country a bit
as well as wrestling. Cross country sure feels like a sport when the person you’ve chased down throughout the race burns you when you gas out on a huge hill in the final mile.
Sure.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
5:59 or lower as timed by an unbiased observer on a stopwatch
Preferably video’d. And no puking.
I can go $20. I don’t have the unlimited discretionary funds y’all seem to have.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
bet the autumn corn crop!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Jan 19, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Winter Wheat. Duh.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
No puking??
I would have thought puking and continuing through would be more impressive.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
oh I didn't see the no puking thing
Puking is fine. Athletes puke all the time. I’m just interested in the time
How are people going to verify the results?
Will somebody please videotape the results. This would be riceless entertainment.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Of course
I probably won’t ever mention it again if I don’t succeed. haha
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
And you'll owe me $20 of beer at OPACY whenever we meet there
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Me, OF21, TL
We’re all in NoVa. Let’s make it happen. Then as an encore, I’ll go ahead and do the beer mile…. twice.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Just remember
6:00 or greater on a accurately measured mile and you’re a losing loser who owes me $20 or beer at or near OPACY at a mutually-acceptable date this summer.
5:59 or lower with no puke, and I’m buying.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Well
5:59 or lower and not only are you buying but you’re referring to me as a winning winner.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
That, too
You will be henceforth “Winning Winner OsFan21 is so wrong about defensive metrics….”
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Oh I don't care if he pukes, but there's no stopping the clock while he pukes.
I agree it should be puke-free, but if he’s gonna go balls-to-the-wall and actually break 6 mins while puking, that’s cool.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Judges?
And….we’ll allow it.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Are we docking him 10 seconds if he pukes on himself or steps in it?
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Only if I gain 10 seconds if I manage to puke on TL or WW on the way past without slowing.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
You can bet I won't be anywhere near you.
I’ve got a serious vomit phobia.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
haha puking is unlikely
I’ve only puked when sprints were involved and only a handful of times.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Good.
I hate vomit.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
There will be no time additions or subtractions
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Oh certainly
have to power through puking.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yea...I'd put 20 bucks on it.
I’d also put 20 on you actually finishing the beer mile twice. I would NOT, however, put any money on me being able to complete the beer mile though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
I could 100% finish the beer mile twice.
I mean, it might take awhile. But I could easily get two miles in and drink 8 beers in say….. an hour.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Eh...that's pushing it.
I thought the point was to chug 4 beers track-side and just go run. No walking was allowed. Once you stopped running, you were out. If you had to puke, you had to do that in motion.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, I mean chug a beer, run a lap... 8 times.
It’s tough enough to drink 8 beers in a an hour. A Power Hour is only like 6. But anyway, add the two mile run and it’s tough… but Ill give it a go.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
lol!
I guess you can chug 4 beers, run a mile, chug 4 more, and run again.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'd put down $20 as well.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I would like to put down money as well.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
haha
I really used to be able to bang out single miles pretty easily right around under 5:10, so I’m relatively confident still.
When do I have to do this? Running in the cold sucks.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Oh I wouldn't take that bet on a treadmill
I can’t run for shit on those.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
July 31, at 4 p.m.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
but no training right?
I’d rather do it in like March or April I think.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I believe the bet was
“right now”
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Well, yeah, it was.
So, why are you still typing on here, OsFan21?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Seriously,
Let’s just have his wife tape the event unless WW or TL really want to make the drive and do this.
We could even have a viewing party on CC!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I'm like 10 mins from northern VA right now....
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
If you have a reliable video camera...
do it. for us.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I bet he's got a phone that'll do
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
we need to be able to zoom for the puke shots.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I don't have a smart phone, remember?
Where’s AMD with his iPad? They’ve got video cameras.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
point and shoot cam will work.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
It's a trap!
Farmer Duck’s Almanac is calling for a hurricane that day!
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
by sluggo 2.0 on Jan 19, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HIGH: 96F. HUM: 72%
That’s what I’m hoping for
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Exactly.
I’m not sure what the best temperature for running 1 mile is (l love running in the cold, but mile 1 in the cold sucks!) but it sure isn’t that!
I am going to go with
50 and sunny for a mile.
I preferred temps in the 60s.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
I used to bang out miles at 430.
That doesn’t mean much.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
yuk
I would be elated to be able to hit 6.30 right now.
Probably right around 6.
Just don’t have the leg speed right now.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm
shit I’m starting to doubt myself, but fuck it it’ll be fun.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
If I wasn't training right now
I’d run with you. I don’t wanna risk further wrecking my bum shin/knee racing you haha.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
I'm starting to get pumped
I used to semi-enjoy running a mile – not the actual running of it but the way it worked out when I did it well so I was basically dead sprinting the last 1/4.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
That's what she said.
I’m starting to get pumped
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
if this ever happens
I have $20 on OF21, will take all comers, and will even throw in a shirt for the losers when OF21 breaks 6 minutes.
I can't run a 6 min mile on a treadmill either.
I hate the treadmill…..shortens my stride by a significant margin.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
I just can't handle the boredom
Even when I was in the best shape of my life (trapezoid?) I couldn’t do more than 40min on the TM.
Heck...I'm bored after 5 minutes.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
if he loses, i'll just take my money.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Exactly.
By participating in another sport, they were far and away better than the lazy shit’s who think because they can run into each other with pads on, they’re “real” athletes. Half of our “football” team couldn’t run more than a lap without doubling over.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly!
By participating in their group exercising events, they prepared for the actual sports that they played.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
As I tell my wrestlers
If you’re in football shape, you’re not in shape.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
This.
It was the same in hockey. Although in hockey, you basically skated a 10K every game.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Skating a 10K
Is that hard?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yea...because the rink is only 200ft.
Eventually you run into the boards. They just get in the way.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I think the rule should be
It’s a sport if it basically can’t be done while drunk. Cross country therefore, is definitely a sport. Bowling, darts, pool, poker, slow pitch softball, WATCH OUT!
Now that's a definition I can support.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I don't think I agree with this definition
but I’d be willing to test its boundaries.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
What cross country can definitely be done while drunk
there are all kinds of fun drinking/running events.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
But you'd never be competitive with somebody who's not drinking.
That’s my point. Drunk people can kick your ass in bowling or darts. But I’m pretty sure I can outrun most drunks, and I’m not really in shape.
I'm a better singer/guitarist when sober (thought it's more fun drunk)
so is rock music a sport?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Not saying they can't
but I promise you they are more technically accurate while sober. They might come up with better stuff drunk though
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Run Hereford HS's state championship course drunk
I dare ya.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
will all those skinny unathletic kids be in my way the whole time?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
No
because you’ll be in the woods puking halfway up the first hill.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
What a b*tch that thing is
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Is this the Hereford HS in York?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
No, Hereford, MD
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Also the Hereford Zone
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Oh...I meant on the way to York.
I-83.
If that’s the case, I’ve run that course before. Never again.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Running can definitely be done drunk.
It wasn’t fun though. Not that I speak from any experience.
Side note: drunk bowling is AWESOME.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
What are those drunk running events called?
Isn’t there a popular one that people do in cities?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Sounds right
You’re chasing somebody in front who chalks the street right?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
There's also a "beer mile"
I believe it’s 4 laps around a standard 1/4 mile track while drinking 4 beers. (Never tried it, but I think you have the choice to do chug all your beers than run or drink a beer before each lap.)
Yes!
I did this. It didn’t end well. In fact, it was flat out awful. Don’t remember if I actually finished the whole mile.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
We had to chug all 4 before running though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
That was kinda the point.
It was awful.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
I've done one up in Hazelton, PA
four times. Its called the Trot-N-Chug. 1.5 mile course, stop in 5 different bars along the course and drink a 4 oz beer. Fun stuff. And then, of course, get wasted afterwards (or beforehand also).
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 19, 2012 4:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
What other kind of bowling is there?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
some guys in my bowling league
every week they line up about 20 shots on the table behind their lane and then announce that they have “liquid bowling lessons” available to all who think they need ’em.
Sorry. you'll never convince me differently
the most successful runners in the world look like anorexics. not athletes.
yes other sports have fat guys who cant run and stuff. but baseball is a good mix of athletic ability. basketball is the best though.
So, women's gymnastics isn't a sport because they're thin?
Great definition of a sport you have there.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
George Carlin FTW
“The are only 3 sports. Baseball, football & basketball. Everything else is either a game, an event or a college activity.”
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
As a hockey player, I beg to differ.
Baseball is a game. Requires a quarter of the skill playing hockey required.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
"the hardest thing in this world is to hit a baseball"
not saying i agree, it’s just an oft-repeated maxim.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I'd say it's getting out of a double-arm bar, but that's just me.
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"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
duck knows I concur
Wrestling is 6 minutes (technically going as long as 8 1/2 with full overtimes). That sounds pansy compared to the time of other sports.
However, it’s six minutes of using every muscle in your body to its fullest extent against another guy who is doing the same and is probably stronger and faster than you.
When I transitioned from 1 minute periods in middle school to 2 minutes in high school, it was brutal.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with this as well
but as a former wrestler I still give props to the water-polo players. My college wrestling coach threw us all in the deep-end and had us play water polo for 20 minutes and it just about killed us.
Our coach got pissed at the athletic direct / football coach one day...
(The AD cancelled one of our meets so his JV team could use the gym.)
We went outside, in the rain, with a football (oblong balls bounce funny), and played soccer on the AD’s prized football field. There wasn’t a blade of grass left and we were exhausted from running in the mud chasing that damn ball. That was a workout, but it was so much damn fun.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
That's awesome.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
WP and swimmers, man
They’re crazy.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
The current highest average amount of shots on goal per game in the NHL is 35
The highest current goals/game is 3.5. Scoring a goal against an NHL goalie (and his defense) is harder than hitting a baseball
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
This.
Hockey was mad difficult.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
A goal is a score – a hit is not. Goal=HR.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Well then
I guess “hitting a baseball” is not the hardest thing in sports, is it?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I think the highest HR% in history is like every 8 ABs right? What’s the highest goal/shot rate in history?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Not very high.
It’s definitely less than 1 goal every 8 shots. NHL teams routinely fire off 30+ shots without scoring.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Well, if a batter had the catcher cross-checking him, hitting the ball would be harder.
What’s the success rate on penalty shots? I would think that would more accurately represent the one-on-one matchup that pitchers and batters have.
On the other hand, if you think hitting a 92 mph slider is hard, trying hitting that little dimpled white ball sitting still in front of you and getting it to go where you want.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
The success rate on penalty shots is well below 50 percent.
Goalie reaction times are insane.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Runners are certainly athletes
still doesn’t make it a sport, but they are athletes regardless
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Webster's dictionary defines "sport" as an "athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess"
I’d like to see somebody without physical prowess excel at racing.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
People have such a warped view of what "sport" means
Just look it up in the dictionary and it’s done. Competitive running/cross country is a sport. Boom, over. Next subject.
@sibsinExile
All I am saying
People I know that couldn’t even play on their high school football team just ran a marathon.
Anyone can run.
I know people that made our football team that couldnt even run
Just saying.
Anyone can play football too. But can anyone play competitively is the question and it’s no in both cases too.
@sibsinExile
Anyone can play football if you train to play football.
Anyone can play hockey if you train to play hockey.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Have you ever trained to skate?
With the same amount of training it took to become a solid runner, I became a fine skater.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
If you practice you will be able to skate
If you practice you will be able to run. I’m not saying one is easier or harder than the other to learn initially, but to be a championship runner and a soccer player takes similar amounts of practice and skill and athletic ability
@sibsinExile
whatever
I can’t articulate what I want to say against that. but running is much easier to “take up” then sports where others are against you.
And be bad to mediocre, sure
To be good takes as much time and dedication as nearly any other sport does.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
What?
Now you’re just making shit up because you have no argument.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
NHL players routinely admit they find skating easier than running.
They might be joking, but it’s pretty common to hear them mention they skate better than they can walk (which is probably true for a lot of them).
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
how can anyone play football?
its takes coaches, equipment, tons of other players, etc.
ppl in kenya are great runners b/c they can do anything else besides run or play futbol.
Alright igges, your arguments are getting ridiculous
Now you are talking about socio-economic conditions which don’t have anything to do with whether its a sport or not.
@sibsinExile
Wieters Wiener's year old son can make a better argument than this
Are you 5 years old or something? “But…but…but….um…it’s not a sport!!!”
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, give me all the equipment and put me on the field w/22 other guys and I’ll play football.
it doesn’t mean I’m good at it, but I am playing football.
You can put on shoes, go out and start running, but you’re not going to accomplish anything as a runner w/o training and all the top runners have coaches, too.
But running is so one-dimensional
I mean, you literally just keep putting one foot in front of the other until your leg muscles get more and more used to it and you get faster.
In baseball, basketball, football there is so much more going on and so much more anticipation and decision-making etc etc. I don’t consider running a sport. You have to have a ball.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks
I am not good at articulating things on a computer. this is pretty much what I been trying to say.
Or a puck?
Can we move on to a far more controversial argument? Hunting for “sport” is not a sport. Hiding with a gun and killing and shooting an animal is not a sport, it’s legal animal slaughter.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
And it tastes, so, so good with BBQ sauce.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Sure it does
I love meat. I just don’t take pleasure in killing the animals to get it.
We’ve had this discussion before. I just wanted to get away from the running thing.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I love meat
Isolate that….
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
if it fits in a skillet
i kill it.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
There's no ball in hockey.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
There is in roller hockey
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Jan 19, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
True.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Then you need to look up the definition of sport and learn what it means
Or convince me that you have the ability to change the meaning of words in the dictionary
@sibsinExile
Another awful argument.
Just stop. Please. Budweiser isn’t beer in my heart either. It’s still beer.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Also, that's basically what we did in hockey.
You just take shot after shot until you achieve muscle memory.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
You never played defense
Ran give and go plays? Worked as a team? Passed… moved… hit…
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
All of those things are achieved by muscle memory
And using your head. Those things are equally as important in running.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
EME should do a poll for tomorrow's Bird droppings
Or do a fanpost.
Q: Do you consider RUNNING a sport?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
So...
most of the Summer Olympics aren’t sports?
The Summer Olympic sports are
archery (no ball)
badminton (kinda no ball)
baseball (not as of 2016)
basketball
beach volleyball
boxing (no ball)
cycling (no ball)
diving (no ball)
equestrian (no ball)
fencing (no ball)
field hockey
gymnastics (no ball)
judo (no ball)
mountain biking (no ball)
rowing (no ball)
sailing (no ball)
shooting (no ball)
soccer
softball (not as of 2016)
swimming (no ball)
synchronized swimming (no ball)
table tennis (no ball)
taekwondo (no ball)
tennis
track and field (no ball)
triathlon (no ball)
volleyball
water polo
weightlifting (no ball)
wrestling (no ball)
So under your definition, ping pong is a sport, but wrestling, sprinting, marathon, and swimming are not.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I'm pretty sire this is a completely American thing by the way
If we don’t play it or atleast relate to it, then its not a sport.
@sibsinExile
Shotput and hammer throw use a ball...
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Hammer uses a hammer. :)
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
It's still a ball.
Just attached to a handle.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Those are all sports with the possible exception of the martial arts.
As the Drunken master has proven.
Yeah, I would argue that half of these aren't real sports.
I mean, by definition yeah you guys win. Equestrian, judo, ping pong…. all sports.
I’m just saying (and this is gonna sound incredibly douchey) what guys (and some gals that are into it) talk about as being SPORTS. I don’t know anyone that’s like “Hey, do you follow sports” and the answer comes back “Yeah, I love watching running and badminton too”.
I seriously can’t consider badminton a “real sport”. It’s a game.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Baseball, football, and hockey are just "games" too.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Also
My definition was tongue and cheek. I don’t really think you need a ball.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
You know how many people go to the Olympic trials for track?
The NCAA championships? I couldn’t even get tickets for it. Obviously there are lots of people who enjoy watching running.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Well
Millions enjoy watching cooking shows too, doesn’t make it a sport.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Millions of people watch baseball too.
Whether or not people watch doesn’t mean anything as to whether or not its a sport.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
NASCAR rain delays ratings > NBA playoff games ratings
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
hahahah this.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
SOURCE
Yes, it’s from 2006, but I love throwing this in the face of anyone who SWEARS that NBA is a Big 4 sport and nobody but rednecks watches NASCAR…
Consider that twice this season, Nextel Cup rainouts on Fox — where, it must be repeated, absolutely nothing happened and no points were won — completely trounced N.B.A. games on ABC Sports.
Last Sunday, when nothing was happening at the Aaron’s 499 at the Talladega Superspeedway, the rain delay attracted 7.2 million viewers from 2 to 4 p.m., while the Miami-Chicago playoff game, which started at 1 p.m., lured 3.6 million viewers. Nothing beats action. Nothing beats Shaq.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Check the past couple years
NBA ratings have been rising like crazy.
It’s apples and oranges though. EVERY Nascar fan watches one race. NBA fans usually watch their teams. Add up the ratings of every NBA game and then compare it to the one race for a better comparison. And they’re all red-stater hillbillys anyway.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Says the red state hillbilly...
:)
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
seriously?
you’re citing a FIRST ROUND NBA layoff game?
That’s like comparing NASCAR to a regular season game.
And of course they all watch for rain delays, because all NASCAR people really want to see are crashes, and there are likely to be more when the track is wet.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
And that statement shows me
how little you know about NASCAR.
They don’t trace unless the track is perfectly dry. No rain tires in NASCAR.
And I was citing a regular season NASCAR race versus a playoff NBA game.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
whatever, dude
an NBA playoff game in the first round, when there are still 112 teams alive, is likely to be beaten by a Paula Dean cooking show.
And NASCAR ain’t no “sport”.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Dude
I was using YOUR “millions watch…” argument.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
I realize that.
You said this:
I don’t know anyone that’s like "Hey, do you follow sports" and the answer comes back "Yeah, I love watching running and badminton too".
I easily put a hole in that argument.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Not really, I just really don't know any of those people.
I’m not saying there isn’t a niche crowd of people who actually like to watch people run. I’m just saying it isn’t mainstream (watching people run).
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
I can only name about 2 people who enjoy watching the NBA too.
You are one of the two.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
It's not about ENJOYING watching the NBA
You know who the big name players are. It’s a mainstream event. No one can name you who the top cross country runners are.
Everyone can tell you who Lebron and Kobe are.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I know people that go to the Penn Relays, for example
none of them would answer running to the question WW posed.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
It's definitely a niche "sport"...
People aren’t tracking running standings in a mainstream sense. I mean Duck is into wrestling and that’s awesome. But I don’t think people really track nationally the wrestling leaderboard. Midwesterners I assume are really into it though. I honestly couldn’t name 3 wrestlers other than The Rock, Stone Cold and HHH. lol..
But seriously, I bet if you asked most people on this board to name 3 of the top college wrestlers out there, hardly anyone could.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Or name a few of the top cross country runners for that matter.
Even people that HATE the NBA can come up with Lebron James, Blake Griffin, Kobe Bryant etc.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody with a television can name those guys.
Regardless of whether the even watch sports.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
My point is
there’s more sports than just the 3 you happened to be good at as a kid.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I sucked at baseball
I was only GOOD at Basketball and a decent goalie.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I can't name the top 3 college bball players.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
So, Thomas Edison did invent the light bulb
just because people think it’s true?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Wrestling D-1 Champs last year sold out the Philly arena 3 days running.
WEEKS in advance, before anyone had an idea PSU would make the run they had to win the team title.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Was it nationally televised?
I didn’t hear a word about it on ESPN (I know, I know… that gossip rag!!!). But there is no doubting that Sportscenter is really the #1 watched “sports recap show” of our time.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
It was on ESPN!!!!! LIVE!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
No. I could care less about what's on ESPN.
They have almost NO hockey, but they have bowling and cheerleading…and poker.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Wrestling D-1 Champs last year sold out the Philly arena 3 days running.
WEEKS in advance, before anyone had an idea PSU would make the run they had to win the team title.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
You'd be really mad at the response I had originally typed to that
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
It's contextual, though
Where I am, NASCAR is a sport. In India, cricket is a sport. In Britain, soccer’s not just a sport, it’s practically a religion. In New Zealand, yeah, men’s fastpitch softball is considered a viable sport.
You probably don’t talk to your buddies about any of those. In Toronto, “Did you see that game last night?” means the Maple Leafs, not the Raptors. (They’re still a team, right?) I’m guessing at your work place, it could mean UMd basketball, The Wiz, or the Caps right now.
So the idea of what is a sport really depends on who’s having the conversation adn where they’re having it.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Sure
But I think almost everyone in the US would say Basketball, Football, Baseball, Hockey is a “sport”. And you’d definitely get mixed results when it comes to running, badminton, judo and stuff like that if they are “real sports”.
And I think those mixed results is what pushes it out of the category (at least in the US) of being a “real sport”.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
hahaha that's a great way to describe it.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Agreed
most of the olympic events period aren’t sports.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Skiing?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
I generally don't think anything that involves judges or a clock to determine a winner
is a sport
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Not even chess!?!?!?!
CHESS is DEFINITELY a sport!!!!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
it's a girl sport...
like mud wrestling.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 19, 2012 3:44 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Teatherball
Sport fo sho…
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
It's a mystery
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Calvinball!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
If they keep time or a score
I usually consider it a sport.
Except rhythmic gymnastics. That’s just weird.
That’s my rule for my kids – you gotta do a sport. Something where they keep time or score.
So, under your definition, Michael Phelps doesn’t compete in a sport? Usain Bolt doesn’t compete in a sport?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Correct
I think swimming and running are competitions not sports.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
NBA games were determined by cheating referees for the longest time.
Still a sport?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
One ref cheated
You really think basketball is the only sport to have one cheating official out of thousands in their history. I guarantee you a lot of soccer officials are shady as shit. Like when US was getting jobbed in the last World Cup.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
Those games were all determined by a “judge.” They’re still sports.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
That's a corruption of the sport - it's not how it's intended to be played.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
That opinion would out you in the minority, I dare say
Although I’m sure you couldn’t care less about that.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Possibly
but I don’t think it’s a small minority. I expect most people that played normal sports tend to feel that way.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Using YOUR definition of "normal"
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
You're encouraging your kids to score?
Very progressive, duck.
That’s my rule for my kids – you gotta do a sport. Something where they keep time or score.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Walked right into that one...
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I tend to think that anyone looking to score with duck's kids have to be able to outrun buckshot.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
New O'sFan21 challenge?
(Not the scoring part, that would be wrong. But the outrunning buckshot might be a good time.)
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Olympics sports...
I’m of the opinion that if the activity is entirely based on judging, it’s not a sport.
If the activity has a demonstrably measurable goal and is either conducted without judging or with judging as a secondary addition to the activity, it’s a sport.
(I am not a fan of officials. In any sport.)
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
I guess I’ll buy that it’s simpler than other sports, but I would bet that the amount of practicing/work that top runners put into it is probably equal to what pro football players are doing to prep.
It’s all different types of running drills, I know Ryan Hall (whose name I can spell more easily than other top marathoners) doesn’t have to do film studies of his opponents (though I would bet they do do film studies of their own stride).
I only played basketball in HS, but I’m guessing the cross-country guys (which I didn’t know my school had at the time) were practicing just as long as we were.
You can bet Ryan Hall knows exactly how fast his opponents are running.
I’d also bet he knows a heck of a lot about the racing strategies of his opponents too.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
What's a Ryan Hall?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Came in 2nd at the U.S. Olympic marathon trials on saturday.
I just used his name instead of the winner’s because I always have to look up how to spell “meb keflezighi”
If I can't spell your name...
… you’re not playing a sport.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Haha...
By the way, the NBA Finals got a 13.3 rating last year while Daytona (I don’t really know what race is most popular Im just guessing) drew a 8.4.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
it doesnt mean you are competetive though
running a smart race takes a lot more thought and planning than people realize.
Right pedal for gas, left pedal for break.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
What the hell are regionals?
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
What kids in NY call sectionals
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
YOU, duck, cannot have a dog in this hunt.
You think NASCAR is a “sport” fer chrissakes.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
More than a few people on the Eastern Shore try, though.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Michael Phelps did, for example
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
hahahhaha
Truth.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Some people are just gifted
From my experience the high GPA ppl at my high school had hardly any social skills or studied all the time, usually both. but that was a class of 210. I am sure big schools experience a much greater amount of very smart, diverse ppl.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 19, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, I was smart in high school
Also read tons of books, and ended up playing hockey, softball, soccer, volleyball, track & field, badminton and table tennis. Kind of had to because the whole school from grade 7-12 was 450 at the most, and there were a limited number of kids who played everything.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
So, since we're obviously getting into our high school resumes, I'll ante up.
3.0 GPA – If I liked the class, I got an A. Period. If I didn’t like the class, I got a C. Didn’t care. To some extent, there was also the issue of me being unable to remember anything at all. Rote memorization based classes (my f-ing Spanish classes) destroyed me. Analysis classes I could roll. In Physics, I got C’s the first semester because the teacher wouldn’t let us use crib sheets with equations; he wanted us to memorize them. In the second semester, I figured out how to hide the equations in my graphing calculator so he couldn’t find them. Then I got A’s. Most importantly, if the class had a challenge, I excelled. Build a 2’ bridge out of toothpicks? Yes sir (and mine held over 250 lbs). Do 80 of the exact same problem for homework? Fuck that.
1510 SAT / 34 ACT – I’m good at tests. My sister was ten times the student I was and struggled to break 1200. Standardized tests are a crappy way to determine future potential.
Wrestling – My athletic extra curricular. Never worked as hard at it as I could have, because I despise lifting weights. If I’d had any strength at all, I could have won a state championship.
Band – Jazz and symphonic. Saxophone, because it’s pimp. Conductor used to give me bad grades to try and force me to march, but I didn’t want any part of that.
Work – I worked for an architect, which played really well on my college applications (since I was applying for architecture).
Social – I floated around between groups pretty easily. I could be a jock, or a nerd, or a band geek, or whatever very comfortably. On the other hand, because I did float around so much, I never developed any lifelong friendships from high school. There’s two people on my Facebook from high school and I’ve only met them once since graduation (at our reunion).
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Woah, way too much reading
“Z”
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Somewhere Stacey printed it off and put it in "the file".
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i don't actually understand this comment
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Stacey is the modern day version of J. Edgar Hoover.
She knows everything about you.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
This
She randomly whipped out how old I was when I started dating my wife the other day. I don’t even remember sharing that, although I’m sure at some point I did. But she whipped it right out and laid it on the table (so to speak).
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, cause fuck musicians, amirite?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Well yea, personal preference
I have also found ppl that were in band to be weirdos. Even ppl I am friends with now. they are weird, but I like them anyway.
I found a lot of football players to be weird too
they slapped each others asses and showed next to each other daily, then they’d act like assholes and think it was cool/funny. Not nearly all of them, but a lot.
My point is, having the “band is for losers” POV is like saying someone is lame for having a talent you most likely do not, and it’s a sophomoric mentality. Most musicians you love were probably in band, but for some people it’s just another reason to shit on other people for fun.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Jan 19, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've played sax for almost 20 years now
never have I considered it “pimp”, and especially not in HS.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Then you're doing it wrong.
Baritone sax is the heart of a band. That deep baseline with far more clarity than any tuba can get.
Tenor sax is the soul of a band. Mellow and capable of carrying any style of music.
I didn’t care for alto sax as much, as incorrectly played, it can be very whiny. But you can’t argue with “Baker Street” and that classic riff.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Dave Grohl does it better on guitar.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Dave Grohl does it better on guitar.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Hey, I love sax, and I know plenty about it
I just don’t think “pimp” is the right word choice for your average HS sax player
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Love it
The HS band director where I teach showed my then-10-year-old son the “Official Trumpet Player’s Handshake.”
You shake the person’s hand and say, “Hi, I’m better than you.”
My son thought this was hilarious.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Hey, more power to ya
I played in a rock band, so I was awesome. But yea, the average sax player was definitely not pimping anything in my HS
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
i would have been the mark reynolds of high school in that case.
i wish i would have applied myself more…
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 19, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Told you.
No point in worrying about high school exams. They’re all insanely easy.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Fanfest
Hey, does anyone here know os a schedule for fanfest. I see that fanfest is from 11 to 6 but I am most interested in the panel discussion with Buck…whiffle ball with Dave Johnson is adorable but we might pass on that this year.
take a look at
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
And that would be what EME posted yesterday
Use that, Fun Tymer
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Wow, that's kinda huge and upside down
This one might be a bit easier to read
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
First time in 4 years, I swear...
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
ahahahahahaha
beware Team Dave
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
EME posted a link yesterday inthe BD thread
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
yes, please do a better job reading all 700 comments daily
so you dont look like a fool asking questions that have been answered already.
That would be EME :)
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Hmm
Not in yesterday’s or today’s droppings:
Britt pens: Arrieta Expects to be Ready for Spring Training
It’s all about the bone spurs. He apparently threw to a catcher on Monday for the first time since August.
“But what I’m most excited about is to finally go into a season and not have this elbow issue, to go into a camp without hesitation, without being in the training room for two or three hours before a game trying to calm it down. It’s something that weighed on me in between starts. ‘Is it going to bother me today? Am I going to be able to get through five or six innings?’ And it got to the point where I was having to do some stuff with anti-inflammatories to try to calm it down.
“It was really a no-brainer for myself to have that finally taken out. And the reason I was so hesitant is because anything can happen with surgery, and if it’s avoidable at all, I’d rather not have it. But looking back at the way that it was, I think [having the spur removed] was one of the best decisions that I made in my career.”
::snip::
“Buck has stressed this quite often: you can’t be a prospect forever,” Arrieta said. "And I think that’s so true. You can be a [highly ranked] prospect … but there comes a time when you have to put up or shut up. ….
To that end, Arrieta’s main goal heading into this season is to consistently go deep into games and give the Orioles a 200-inning arm to go along with staff ace Guthrie.
“A lot of those other stats will work their way out if you are pitching deep in the ballgame,” said Arrieta, who went more than five innings in only one of his final seven starts. “That’s something I’ve learned from Jeremy and other veteran pitchers in the league. If you’re still taking the mound in the eighth inning, chances are you are doing something right. And that’s definitely going to be a big focus of mine this year.”
I’m liking what I hear.
Then again, he stopped just short of saying he’s in the best shape of his life.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
the song remains the same
if he can find control, he will be great. I’m not sure there’s not a ton of precedent there, though.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
he might find control
by nibbling less and trusting his stuff
particularly if he’s no longer pitching with pain
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Is there much precedent for somebody pitching most of their pro career with painful bone spurs in his elbow?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
If he takes a leap forward,
it’ll because his SOs improve, not because of better control IMO.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
tomato, to-mah-to
the ratio between the two is the primary thing here
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Of course, if his SO go up, his walks stay the same, his ratio will improve.
I’m just saying that he can be great beside finding his control.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I was going to say this
if he’s able to pitch pain free for the first time maybe ever I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he starts missing a lot more bats.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Then again, he stopped just short of saying he’s in the best shape of his life.
It was basically implied. We’re ripe for disappointment here.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Said TL in reply fail to zk.....
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
again w/ the SAT scores?
This is a bi-monthly rehash.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 12:56 PM EST reply actions
It's not a rehash
Everybody is changing their numbers.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
by Zeke McGeek on Jan 19, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
by all means
let’s talk about Alicia in the mail room instead.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Jan 19, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ask her to a party. less pressure.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
ahahahhaa
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Was that even her real name?
Or is that just the made-up name you gave her and it has stuck?
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
the latter
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Phil, I will join you in this confession.
I only scored 1280. 690 math, 590 verbal.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
miscreants!
SHUN them!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
650V, 600 math
I actually took it twice and got 1240 both times, but the combination of my best scores got me to 1250.
and now they're arguing about championships in high school sports
it’s like unofficial “relive the glory days” day around here
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
YUP!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
ahhh, scratch that.
I have a thing in an hour. I’d just piss you all off by not being here.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
4 touchdowns in one game!
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
Coach woulda put me in fourth quarter, we would've been state champions...

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
How much you wanna make a bet I can throw a football over them mountains?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Has anyone bothered to watch the cartoon?
not me
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
I bet I could throw this football a quarter mile.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Heh heh
I was going for Al Bundy but I’ll accept Uncle Rico for an answer.
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
Here's something new: Never had to do SATs. University stuff went solely on grades.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
I don't think running is a sport
But I think runners are usually athletic.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with this
the best ppl at any sport/activity/execercise could normally excel at a variety of other things
I don't really have an opinion, but this made me think of this Kenny Powers quote
Terrence Cutler: There’s something you need to know, Kenny. You’re not the only athlete here at Jeff Davis. I happen to be training for a Triathlon right now. Doin’ a lot of running, and cycling, swimming. Well you know all about that.
Kenny Powers: No actually I don’t. I do SPORTS. Not try to be the best at exercising.
What up?
by snakethejake on Jan 19, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Uhhhhhh.... wtf.... Rec'd anyway
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Betting he Shift-A'd
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Are you going to FanFest? Let us know!
Maybe people can meet up or something.
http://www.camdenchat.com/2012/1/19/2718868/camden-chat-at-orioles-fanfest
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 1:40 PM EST reply actions
A friend of mine posted this on Facebook. Not sure if y'all have seen it or not.
Shit people say in DC.
Damnit!
I feel like Wieters Wieners. I didn’t even know it was a meme. >.<
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Well... Less a meme and more like a trend or fad
There’s all sorts of them. “Shit white people say”, “Shit white girls say”, “Shit people in INSERT CITY say”. Ad nauseum.
I didn't know that.
I retract my “Shit people say in DC” post.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Shit my dad says was funny for a while.
But then, I guess that was the original.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yea...it got annoying fast.
But the stuff he says is pretty accurate though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Here's a little Orioles news:
Brady Anderson has been named Special Assistant to the Executive Vice President of Baseball Operations. Talk about a mouthful.
Dan Connolly says Brady will be assisting with player development and overseeing conditioning throughout the organization.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 2:08 PM EST reply actions
Brady was always in great shape in the '90s
I remember him saying that his 50 HR season was just one better swing a week.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
so he's the dwight schrute of baseball operations.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
No.
He’s Asst. Regional Manager!
Can I use the conference room as an office?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Here's another one from Dan C
danconnollysun Dan Connolly
However, Brady Anderson’s hiring is of note. Had no official role w #Orioles last yr. Now is spec asst listed as 2nd behind Duq in hierarchy
Also,
danconnollysun Dan Connolly
Anderson long been trusted friend of owner Peter Angelos & has helped specific #Orioles w conditioning. Widely regarded as smart bball man
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
So if Duq gets assassinated Brady takes over?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Hopefully his first move
is to put everybody on whatever he was on in 1996 but while avoiding all positive tests.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
sideburns...
are a helluva drug.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 19, 2012 2:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think for "Brady Anderson Day"...
… every Oriole should run onto the field with sideburns.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
There were some other miscellaneous title changes in the O's FO
Since we love to obsess about the Stockstills around here, I thought I’d point out that John Stockstill’s title is now “Director of Player Personnel” as opposed to whatever it was before.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 2:33 PM EST reply actions
Kenny Powers
Terrence Cutler: There’s something you need to know about Kenny, you’re not the only athlete here at Chip Davis. I happen to be training for a triathlon. Doing a lot of running, cycling, swimming, but you know all about that.
Kenny Powers: No actually I don’t. I play real sports, not try to be the best at exercising!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 2:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Damn, I don't click links at work...
My bad.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Holy Crap
What the eff happened while I was gone???
Shift-A
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 2:51 PM EST reply actions
Yea...you didn't miss anything.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Except that TL thinks "Camdenchatting" is a sport.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Millions of people watch it!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
You'd think, based on today's OT
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Well if it is
You motherfuckers are making a run at the all time records for Most Comments in a non-Game Thread
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 19, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Wondering the same thing.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
One thing I found extremely interesting about the way the body reacts to runners
My question is…who is an athlete and who exercises by running?

So, um...
… is speedwalking a sport?
I mean, it’s in the Olympics.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Sarcasm is awesome!
if running is a sport then speedwalking is. the picture of the guy on the left…you consider him to be an athlete? c’mon.
what are the distances?
pretty sure the guy on the left is sprinting and the guy on the right is running a marathon
right
I was going to write about how sprinters are more athletes cuz they build muscle, have quick twitch muscle fiber, etc. no real strategy to it though. just run really fast.
Ii wanted to avoid “sport or not” arguments and just focus on the types of body types ppl develop through various types of running. I think it is crazy that ppl subject themselves to running long distances.
Each one has a body type that’s better for his event, though. An offensive lineman has a different body type than a wide receiver.
I’m not saying there’s not people at aren’t good at every distance, but I bet most elite marathoners would get their ass kicked in the 200m, but that Usain Bolt isn’t going to win any marathons.
Of course it is.. because um... people are competing and sweating and stuff.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like super happy bedroom fun time in college...
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Not for Tim Tebow!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
So is the bet still on?
Where are we on that?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I'm still betting $20 worth of alcohol against OsFan21
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I'm up for it
I’d like it to be above 50 degrees though.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
To review,
What is the bet specifically? 5 miles? What time?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
haha 5 miles?? Fuck that.
1 mile in under 6 mins.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Oh, I thought that's how this conversation got started.
Something about if you could beat your wife in a five mile race w/o any training. 1 mile under 6 is doable though. We’ll need proof though. I feel really strange asking this but maybe your wife could tape it?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
That was yesterday I think
today it was b/c we said running isn’t a sport, anyone can run. Then O’sfan go challenged.
Dude
TL and WW are going to the track with me and we’re going to pound beers afterwards while WW does the 24 beer 6 miler.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Alright, it's all settled then.
What’s the minimum bet? $20? We’ll need a separate fanpost to keep track of the bets. Once we get the details settled on when, where, and how, we can set it up.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
no, that sort ruins the whole point i thought.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Nope.
Although I think WW is always in his 24 beer training, so let’s just limit it to no alteration of current training regiment.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Im going to try and do 8 beers and 2 miles in under an hour.
Again, just drinking 8 beers in an hour is tough. I can pound 20 over 6-8 hours, but let’s say it takes me 16 minutes to do the 2-miles, I have 44 minutes to drink the 8 beers which is like a beer every 5 minutes. It’ll be brutal.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
If you're going to do 8 beers/2 miles, do it like a man
After each quarter mile shotgun a beer.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
wtf
is 24 beer six miler? I can barely run 6, and I could never drink 24 beers. Is there anything else to this?
I think this is the logical extension of the 4-beer mile or 8-beer two mile, with extra running and drinking for everyone’s amusement.
I think the most I ever did was half a case in college.
Now I couldn’t drink a six pack.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Dude, I will prove I can drink 24 12 oz. beers
Next time we do CC day at the yard. I’ll start drinking in front of everyone at Pickles, and will pound at 24 during postgame. I’m sure EME will stick around until I hit the number if that’s the challenge.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure how good I'd be at it.
My strength is in stamina not speed. I’m sure a lot of people can outchug me, but not a lot of people will still be standing strong after a 12-hr binge.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
it's not about speed...
it’s really just about finishing off a case. The word “race” is thrown in just to give it a cute sounding name.
I thought you split up into teams and race to finish
Who couldn’t finish a case with 3-4 people? CMON.
And if it’s “racing” than it is DEFINITELY a sport!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
No way there's two teams and whoever finishes first wins.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I would never bet against WW when beer is involved.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I'm not proud of being an alcoholic...
We have to get out to a couple games this year as a group though. I’m already getting excited about fresh cut grass, warm weather, and fatigued bullpens.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 19, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
haha I love all these CC challenges that are happening.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Is there another one than this?
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
The FT is FL!
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think WW will dominate the beers
the running remains to be seen…
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
If you can't trust legal documents from the Dominican Republic, what can you trust?
Police in the Dominican Republic say Fausto Carmona’s real name is Roberto Hernandez Heredia, Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportes tweets. Dionisio Soldevila of the AP tweets that Carmona is 31, not 28. Jorge Arangure Jr. of ESPN.com tweets that the right-hander’s chances of obtaining a visa quickly are not good. Yancen Pujols first tweeted news of the identity issues.
The Indians exercised Carmona’s option after the season, so he’ll earn $7MM in 2012. The ground ball pitcher posted a 5.25 ERA with 5.2 K/9 and 2.9 BB/9 in 188 2/3 innings in 2011. The Marlins placed Leo Nunez/Juan Carlos Oviedo on the restricted list because of issues related to his assumed name. It’s not clear whether Carmona will be able to pitch in the U.S. by Opening Day.
I guess you might say he struck a Faustian bargain to play in MLB.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Somebody's gotta rec you for that
so it will be me.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I wonder how fast baseball-reference will update his page.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Not so fast that it's already changed.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
They DID exercise "Fausto Carmona's" option, not Roberto Hernandez Heredia's, in case they wanna get out of it.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
Really, Toronto? Darren Oliver?
Beeston said the Blue Jays ask certain questions of themselves before spending big on any free agent. “Is that going to put you over the top? Is that going to give you an opportunity to get to the point where you have that contending team, that competitive team? Does that one piece do it for you?” Darren Oliver’s $4.5MM contract represents the Blue Jays’ most substantial free agent expenditure to date under GM Alex Anthopoulos.
900+ comments w/ no politics or Tebow?
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions
I can play risk.
Oh and I totally brought Tebow into this :-)
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Not my fault!
I said I could play when you asked earlier!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
As can I.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
MW:
Definition of SPORT
a : a source of diversion : recreation b : sexual play c (1) : physical activity engaged in for pleasure (2) : a particular activity (as an athletic game) so engaged in
Dictionary.com
1.
an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.
2.
a particular form of this, especially in the out of doors.
3.
diversion; recreation; pleasant pastime.
4.
jest; fun; mirth; pleasantry: What he said in sport was taken seriously.
5.
mockery; ridicule; derision: They made sport of him.
Oxford Dictionary (in hand not online):
1. a. Game or competitive activity, esp. an outdoor one involving physical exertion, eg., baseball, football, racing, hunting. 2. amusement or diversion
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 3:53 PM EST reply actions
So, then, in regards to that first definition,
when might we see “Sexual Play” introduced at the Olympics? As a demonstration sport, at least?
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
Ahem
While we’re on high school, I present: SENIOR PRANK.
1) Occupy JDS (my school name, nobody murder me, pretty please). We’re setting up tents, sleeping bags, clothing lines and protest signs in the Junior hallway. BUT WAIT! There’s more. Some students, whose names shall be protected, swiped the principal’s key to his office and we’ll be setting up camp in there as well. We’re also placing tents in very inconvenient spots around the school.
2) Rejection letters! Kids at my school are really pretentious and have cared about college since 7th grade (seriously, fuck you), so putting rejection letters on their lockers seemed awesome. Give those Juniors a taste of the college process! I won’t name names, of course, but some the more tech-savvy kids kinda sorta hacked into the naviance database and saw the individual Juniors top schools list, and we based our rejection letters from that. DON’T. TELL. ANYONE.
Last point, carrying pepper spray is illegal in Montgomery County, so we’re just gonna silly string the fuck out of unsuspecting students throughout the day.
YAY!
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Will do!
It will be epic. I’m convinced.
Oh and I forgot! We changed the bells so now they will play our grade’s inside jokes throughout the day.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
We couldn't do this sort of stuff at my school
Well, at least not unless we wanted to risk being shot.
pretty sure she goes to a private school.
Much more liberal about this sort of thing.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
It's also not Oxon Hill
Where a dude got murdered my sophomore year and the principal got arrested for drunk driving my freshman year and we had daily bomb threats for about a month one year.
Or, as we call that in Salisbury
Middle school.
Gotta step up yo game, son, you wanna roll with the high schools DOWN HERE!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
whoa auto-correct, number 100 baby!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I didn't go to Middle School in that area
The tag program sent me to a somewhat different area that was nicer than Oxon Hill.
Of course, I didn’t go into the full problems with our school.
It's one of the reasons I'm delaying watching Season 4 of The Wire
I’m afraid it’s too much like what I go to work and see every day as it is.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I officialy can't get through season 5
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 20, 2012 3:27 AM EST up reply actions
It isn't THAT bad...
how far along are you?
by TerroristFistJab on Jan 20, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Episode 4 or 5
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 21, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I do. We’re supposed to get these pranks approved (da fuck, right?) but we actually gave them a decoy plan so the administration has no idea that we’re infiltrating the school’s database or breaking into the principal’s office… or anything else for that matter.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Don't you think the authorities could google what went on. find CC. get your user info and track you down?
You haven't said enough
I’ll assume that’s you in the corner….
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I seriously doubt she will be losing her religion anytime soon
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
consider this.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Will it bring you to your knees?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I wonder if she even knows this song.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but religion is a metaphor for a girl, according to Stipe.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
And that's even odder, coming from him
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
that's right.
probably love interest then. i heard him say this in an interview a loooong time ago.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
The hint of the century.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 19, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
I always wondered what that line was....
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I must have watched/heard that video on MTv
No less than 83,458 times back when MTv actually played, you know, music.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 19, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Also technically the school doesn't have to get the authorities involved unless they want to.
Because it’s private… and they’ve had ranging from borderline illegal to plain illegal shit happen and usually the authorities never know.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
I actually have a friend who told me a kid he knows had his computer confiscated by police
and was suspended for just hacking into the school network.
I’ll find out what else happened to him.
We're on our way out.
It’s my last of school tomorrow. Hence, who gives a shit!
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Congratulations
You must have a late – but not too late – birthday like I do if you’re graduating and 17. Or you got skipped a grade.
My high school does a study abroad program
We spend second semester of senior year in Israel and Poland!
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
thats my point
that fact that you/your parents can afford to do it.
I wanna go to Poland to see WW2 stuff.
We can't
I’m on a scholarship. Regardless, we go to Poland to tour the concentration camps. We even do the Death March (albeit with jackets and shoes on).
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
I beg to differ.
I did it too and it might have been the worst experience of my life.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 20, 2012 3:29 AM EST up reply actions
No.
I was at HoGWash until 4th grade when I made Aliya. But most schools send kids to Poland from here too.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 21, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
did you get the scholarship...
or did judge smail screw you over?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 19, 2012 4:57 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
You're one of those kids who has cared about college since 7th grade, aren't you?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Eh
My freshman year the seniors somehow got a live cow onto the top floor of the school.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Brandon Allen being shopped.
Let’s get him.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 4:14 PM EST reply actions
yup...
we’ve already missed out on will rhymes!
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 19, 2012 4:21 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Running cross-country...did anyone else see this chick on e:60?
I mean she collapsed at the finish line and people just stood by as she crawled to the finish. She looked like she was going to pass out, good thing nothing bad happened.
Does this type of thing happen a lot?
It's most common in people that run these races without proper training.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Marthoner's risk of cardiac arrest quite low
http://todayhealth.today.msnbc.msn.com/news/2012/01/11/10096130-marathoners-cardiac-arrest-risk-quite-low-study-finds#.Tw5Mbyh5TA.facebook
I think those were the first deaths in 10 years at the Philly Marathon.
There's also a fair amount of water poisoning or whatever it's called
your brain swells up – happened to this chick that lived in our house in college.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yeah…you get your electrolyte levels all Oriole’d up. Even more likely in the heat.
That’s pretty common and I worry a lot about it in the summer. I’ve just been advised to mix water and sports drink and to take electrolyte tabs, but on race day people are going to press on even if they feel like shit or aren’t properly hydrated/nutrient’d.
Brain and Heart
Two things I don’t wanna screw with. I’ll just stick to the hamster wheel for my running needs.
That's because the locals kicked and spit on them when they fell, then puked on them intentionally
Ok, that was wrong…
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Probably.
But if Accardo signs with the Indians and nobody cares, did it actually happen?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
it's a bummer...
my dreams of an accardo/bastardo combo in philly have been dashed.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 19, 2012 4:25 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Is he going to dance with wolves?
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Does anybody know where I can find a small motion activited meow?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
No...not a real cat!
I just need a small motion activated device that meows.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
But would be near impossible to hide stealthily in another office.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Last I checked...
That’s called a cat.
by Holymittens on Jan 19, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That might be too visible though.
Maybe I could spray paint it or something….
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Merino V-necks are
officially in my top 5 of upper body clothing items.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 4:39 PM EST reply actions
I got a bunch of BR ones
Good part: wool doesn’t smell so I wear ’em several times between washings. Bad part: gotta dry clean ’em.
Andy MacPhail approves of this message.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
v necks...
not sweater vests.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 19, 2012 5:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
bitte, birdman.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 19, 2012 5:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Also, got a new French Press today!
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 4:42 PM EST reply actions
what will you DO with it?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Senator Mikulski's office emailed me back today...
After I wrote a strongly worded letter comparing PIPA to the Red Scare. I wrote an angrier letter to Senator Cardin (I was civil, however) after I found out he was a co-sponsor, but he withdrew his support today so it’s moot. I’m excited to hear from Donna Edwards though!
Anyway, here it is:
Dear Ms. [My last name here]:
Thank you for writing to me about copyright law. It’s good to hear from you.
The PROTECT IP Act (S. 968) would give the Department of Justice (DoJ) authority to identify and take legal action against websites that market counterfeit or pirated goods.
Illegal downloading of movies, TV shows and music is a real problem that harms industries, kills jobs and hurts our economy. We need strong copyright laws to protect the creative property of artists, and it is important that these laws be followed. However, I share your concerns about this bill. We need to make sure that the solution isn’t worse than the problem. Any efforts to strengthen the protection of copyrighted materials must be well planned, avoid unintended consequences, and must not stifle free speech or innovation.
There are a number of provisions in the bill that I am concerned about, particularly language affecting Domain Name Servers (DNS). Legislation as wide-ranging as this needs a more open and thorough review from all sides of the debate. I am pleased that Senator Leahy — the author of the bill — has said he is open to changes to address this and other issues. The current language in the bill needs to be improved before I could consider supporting its final passage.
S. 968 has been passed out of the Judiciary Committee and is awaiting action by the full Senate. Knowing of your views is helpful to me, and I will keep them in mind as Congress continues to debate this issue.
Thanks once again for writing. Please let me know if I can be of assistance in the future.
Sincerely,
Barbara A. Mikulski
United States Senator
Eh, boilerplate, but at least her office had the decency to answer in a relatively timely manner.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
We actually have the same birthday, birdman.
September 22nd, right?
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Now that's what she said...
20 in a day would be rough, I’d think.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 19, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
So you can vote in the primary, too, iirc
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Correct.
Not sure if there are any interesting races in your neck of the woods, DCO, but voting is pretty awesome in any case. Doesn’t matter if it’s all uncontested.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, assuming the law is the same in Pennsylvania as it is here.
Alas, I don’t think I’ll go through the trouble of mailing in an absentee ballot halfway across the world.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Attitudes like that
are how we get the elected officials we have. :)
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
It's not like I would stay home if I was in the country...
But I don’t have easy access to mail service in Israel and mail from foreign countries is unreliable and there’s no telling when it would get there.
Again, if it wasn’t nearly impossible, I’d absolutely do my civic duty. However, it is nearly impossible.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Also, at least Senator Mikulski has the decency to not support the bill in its current form.
When she (her staffer) writes about how the final bill “must not stifle free speech or innovation”, I think that’s one of those phrases where you know she’s probably on our side in the long run about this SOPA/PIPA stuff.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe
It’s easy to say those things. I’m pretty sure the supporters of the bills claim they don’t do either of those things.
Dog-whistle politics are a real thing.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 19, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Right
As far as any of us know there’s really not a logical way for this bill to be fixed without scrapping it entirely, because at its core the only motive behind it is to censor the internet. It’s not about piracy. It never was.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
why is my HuffPo in French?
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 6:35 PM EST reply actions
this was VERY well played.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
nice
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Bam.
You just won the thread.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
No, anything with a judge isn't a sport.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 19, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Football has a line judge, so, not a sport.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
i find it really amusing when people use 'modest proposal' without meaning to reference Jonathan Swift
ron paul just suggested a modest proposal to lower taxes, but i’m going to assume he also wants to eat irish babies
my brother sent out a holiday card one year
with his newborn baby on a platter with some parsley and the other two kids sitting at the table with their utensils at the ready. The caption was something like, “Have a Swift Holiday!”
It was hilarious.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I'm ready for baseball
Not that I don’t love 1000+ comments about high schools and SAT scores and running, but I’m ready for baseball.
Do you have to read through every comment?
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 19, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
We're all just trying to make sure your bills are paid, sister!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
pageviews!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
well then by all means,
let’s discuss Dana Eveland
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

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