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TORONTO, CANADA - SEPTEMBER 9:  J.J. Hardy #2 of the Baltimore Orioles makes the double play on Mike McCoy #18 of the Toronto Blue Jays during MLB action at the Rogers Centre September 9, 2011 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Photo by Abelimages/Getty Images)


And how are you spending this National Day of Wallowing? I plan on interspersing episodes of The Wire between crummy bowl games.

School of Roch: What about Ryan Adams? Roch gives voice to often heard question around these parts.

New Year’s Resolutions- Baltimore Orioles | Baltimore Sports Report BSR with another approach to the look back/look forward thing.

It's Brandon Waring's birthday today.

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last day off

could use another week off.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 9:37 AM EST reply actions  

Congrats to Westie!

I raise my coffee mug to you! (Sorry, ZK…)

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 2, 2012 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

Makes up for a woeful Pick 'em year.

And a woeful CC FF year.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 2, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

happy new year, camden chat!

Did everyone have (or is continuing to have) a good holiday?

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 2, 2012 9:57 AM EST reply actions  

I was until I realized I had to be back at work tomorrow.

Not a single day off for the near future.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

hey, I'm already back at work

so it could always be worse for you

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 2, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Same

and I had to work at least a few hours each day over the break. The joys of not having a normal job.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 2, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It could be worse...

I didn’t have a single day off during the holidays and had to work on the 31st.

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 2, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I had a bunch of stored PTO that I to use or I was going to lose it.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I had a couple too but I was forced to work

But I think I’ll get extra days off since I had to work during that time. There was like 10 people in our whole building that week

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 2, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't help but feel a bit richer today.

I’m not sure why…. Any ideas?

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Jan 2, 2012 10:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Congrats

Way to finish the season strong.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 2, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Jan 2, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Congrats!

Very impressive final week.

by Stacey on Jan 2, 2012 11:48 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Thanks.

I really didn’t expect to have a chance…. I got lucky.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Jan 2, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

After all of this....two pools and two fantasy football leagues

I came out 10 bucks ahead.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

like 500 bucks

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I went ahead and did the math....

Should be $490 including this weeks 10. Plus my other two winning weeks and that’s $510. Not a bad haul at all.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Jan 2, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Rub it in!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

If you insist.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Jan 2, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah.

I’ll be humble.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Jan 2, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Hi Everyone

I don’t really post a lot; I usually just lurk.

But Happy New Year and all of that good stuff.

by Xari0tis on Jan 2, 2012 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

lurk = read, right?

Thx, and nothin’ wrong w/ that! Hey, I enjoy lurkin’ the NY Times every day — and after the bowl season, I’m gonna lurk George F. Kennan: An American Life . And maybe even relurk me some War and Peace or sth.

I think Feb. is Nat’l Lurking Month. And as we all know, Lurking is fun-da-mental. Or 90% mental. I forget the exact phrase. Anyway, HNY back atcha!

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 2, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

thanks for coming out for a day!

so, 6 more weeks of winter?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 4, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

day drinking on a monday?

don’t mind if i do

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 2, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

Might have a drink tonight.

Have some leftover champagne from yesterday.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Who misses a 20 yard field goal?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 2, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoa, how 'bout THAT Hail Mary?

Slips. double pumps, heaves, bingo. Simple.

Why there was no DB on the goal line escapes me. But I guess most teams don’t do a lot of Stop the Hail Mary drills in practice. I don’t remember it ever being mentioned in h.s. And we almost got beat by one, too (they missed the 2-pointer, hee-hee).

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 2, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Happy New Year to all!

Can’t wait for reports about Oriole players showing up to Spring Training in the best shape of their lives.

Question! My mac is dying a slow death. I need to back it up on an external hard drive. I have mostly pictures and stuff…any recommendations on what external hard drive to buy?

Any, since I’m asking…the best (i.e., cheapest) way to buy a mac? I all I really need is a basic one, and I heard you could buy them off ebay?

Thanks in advance!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 2, 2012 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

How much of that data is absolutely critical?

If it’s under 5gb, iCloud is free. All Mac users have it.

Above 5gb I believe it’s $25 a year.

by Xari0tis on Jan 2, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

As for getting a new Mac

Have you thought about just backing up your data and wiping it, starting anew?

It might be worth a shot, and it would be a lot cheaper.

by Xari0tis on Jan 2, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

the mac is getting up there that's all,

and I just heard the click of death!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 2, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Click's aren't always fatal, but its definitely a good idea to back it up

i had an external HD that had all my movies and tv shows on it that started clicking. After spending hours backing it up, it hasn’t made a noise since.

by kba26 on Jan 2, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I always just check newegg daily deals until theres a good sale on a hard drive with decent reviews

Unfortunately, hard drive prices are still somewhat elevated after last years flooding in Thailand, so its not a great time to buy.

by kba26 on Jan 2, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea you don't really need to worry about the brand too much because the internal components are all mad eby the same few manufacturers

Given that, the body and stuff can still be flimsy. I usually get Western Digital (pretty cheap), but you should be fine with whatever is cheapest.

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 2, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

awesome, thanks to all!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 2, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I just back up my important files to a thumb drive

Can’t get any simpler or cheaper.

We Americans are a peculiar people. We are for the underdog, no matter how much of a dog he is. - Happy Chandler

by ThreeRunHomer on Jan 2, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have any 350GB thumb drives

And that’s how much I have in music and photos.

Also – don’t buy ClickFree. Just got a 1TB backup disk, and every time it tries to back up my HD, when it’s “done”, it tells me the computer doesn’t recognize the drive and do I want to format it? I unplug it, it tries to back up again, and same thing.

So don’t get ClickFree.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 2, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Gdrives kick ass and are very well designed

I have a couple of them.

see here

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 4, 2012 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Why yes, it IS the Best Bowl Day o' the Season! And thx for axing!

Are you a little short after the holidays? Oops, sorry Amber, didn’t see you there. Anyway, the bowl odds/bets/advice are nice ‘n’ Fanposted for you, so get that bookie on the horn and help him clean the bills, change and lint out of his pockets!

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 2, 2012 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

Mr. T

Are you hanging out in the Rochester area? If so, for how long?

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 2, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Largely done hung already, so to speak: off to NoPA shortly (the fabled Titov Family Estate)

then back here for a bit (dentist, doctor), then to NYC friends, then JFK—>MOW circa Jan. 16. Are you from Greater Ra-cha-cha?

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 2, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

damn, I thought that was my thing

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 2, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes ... yes, I am

Bushnell’s Basin area, specifically. If you’re in town and want to discuss the state of the O’s over a beverage of choice, I’d be up for that.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 2, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

my girlfriend and I used to go down there semi-regularly

there was/is a chocolate shop (Watson’s) on the road between Pittsford and Victor. Pretty place, silly name.

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 2, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

That's our place for sponge candy

Luckily, it tastes better than it sounds.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 2, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

A Greater Ra-Cha-cha CC Subcommittee Mtg? Sounds like a good idea!

I feel like kind of a poseur since I’m not really from this area, o’ course, but still. Every community needs a Local CC Chapter.

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 2, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Being somehwat new to this group, I have yet to personally meet

any fellow CC’ers. But, in the past, I’ve met up with several other people that I met on the interwebs, and it always went very well. Heck, I even married one of ’em.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 2, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

well, i'm not looking to get married

but I’m up in the accurately-named Ra-cha-cha relatively frequently, though not usually down towards Bushnells. At some point, beers could certainly be bought.

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 2, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, give me a heads-up when you're coming this way

I’m sure we can find a suitable half-way spot to meet up. I work in the city and go to Chili to see my dad a couple of times a week, so I’m all over the place.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 2, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder what kind of contract he is going to get.

That MLBTR page says “battling a shoulder injury”, which is one of those phrases you probably don’t want to see before you’re about to commit seven to eight figures.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 2, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

If the O's signed an all-star team from Japan

would they be contenders in the AL East?

We Americans are a peculiar people. We are for the underdog, no matter how much of a dog he is. - Happy Chandler

by ThreeRunHomer on Jan 2, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure

but they’d probably dominate the NYPL

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 2, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

no

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Would they be .500 though?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 2, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe.

Personally, I think they could be .500 with a few small tweaks to the squad they’ve got. For example, not putting Kevin Gregg in to blow saves, etc.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

We're not close to .500

Not even close. And I see no progress towards it in 2012. What, realistically, are we doing different in 2012 that we didn’t do in 2011? Unless we see MASSIVE progress from 3 of the young starters, we’re not gonna sniff .500 for a long, long time.

See Andrew_G’s post from a few weeks ago stating just how much better all the pitchers have to get to get use close to .500.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 2, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

But why do we need to rely on JUST the pitchers getting better?

It seems like with some improvement in all aspects of the game (some of which I would consider a reversion to the mean) they could easily pick up a bunch of games. We don’t need 3 starters to have massive progress, we need everybody on the team to make SOME progress. If the defense makes some progress the pitching will improve without any of the pitchers making any progress. If the pitchers improve a little on top of that then it’s significant progress. If the starters improve a little bit and the defense improves a little bit, we’ll the bullpen will be used less often and will be fresher when they are used and should improve at least a little. Then if you add some offensive improvement and it’s a totally different team.

Now is any of that particularly likely? Of course not, but I agree with TL that the team as it stands certainly COULD be .500 with a few small tweaks.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 2, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course after re-reading this

I am annoyed at myself for even considering the possibility of any of these guys having a mean to revert to that’s higher than what we just saw as opposed to this past season being a reversion to their actual abilities from over-performance in prior seasons.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 2, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Every year i get pretty excited for the NHL Winter Classic

and usually watch for about 15 minutes before remembering i just really don’t like hockey

by kba26 on Jan 2, 2012 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

hockey doesn't like you either.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I told myself I'd watch to see if I would spot my cousin on TV.

No joke, camera pans the crowd during the national anthem and I see her and her boyfriend. Then I was like, “Well, I guess I can stop watching now.” So I did.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 2, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't watch hockey until the playoffs,

and even then I usually forget. But playoff hockey is pretty fun. However the long playoff season makes the regular season seem kinda pointless. I’m also certain hockey fans don’t care what I think!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 2, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Gave up 2 years ago

22 years of “But we ran into a hot goaltender!” was 1 too many.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 2, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

What's a hockey?

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 2, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

hockey rocks

it’s like the best parts of soccer but faster and there’s hitting.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 2, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

And fighting.

And the players don’t fall over at the lightest contact and act like they’re hurt. They get their teeth knocked out and are back on the bench without missing a shift.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I think soccer players get a bad rap for that

They can draw calls so they continue to flop. Also it’s easy to get tripped up when you’re running full speed so it’s easy to milk that just a bit more.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 2, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the point though.

Only in soccer do you get “fouled” for a light touch. Well, basketball too, but that’s why I don’t watch that sport.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn, I knew I liked you for a reason.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 2, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they can an appropriate rap.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 2, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

can=get

damn it

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 2, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Still hungover from new years? ;-)

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't drink a drop actually

caught some kind of cold/flu deal on the plane back from VT, so I was resting up. Bummer.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 2, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It's even easier to do with skates on, but they don't.

Point, hockey.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 2, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno.

Those guys skate better than I can walk. It’s pretty amazing how well those guys move on the ice.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 2, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I regret to inform all WestcoastO'sfan fans out there.

But next term on Mondays and Wednesdays I have class from 10.30 – 5.30 (basically). And from 10.30 to 3.30 (basically) on Tuesday and Thursday. That means a lot less Westie in open threads. Luckily for you guys I will be shaping my spring term around O’s games (no class after 4!) I will make sure to get up early for Risk every once and a while though.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 2, 2012 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

Thx, yeah, it's v. good. In fact, I sent it out with my Snappy New Year's circular

The FCC equal time clause forced me to do it, since I’d sent this one— which is even more impressive in some ways — with the Xmas mailing:

http://airpano.ru/files/Saint-Petersburg-HiRes/start_ultra_high_r.html

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 3, 2012 8:04 AM EST up reply actions  

huh...

talk is orioles are signing coco crisp? would that mean jones to left and moldy to dh? THAT would be a pretty good defensive outfield.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 2, 2012 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

or a Jonesy trade on the horizon?

Please make it so, DD.

But your point stands. Improving the D should, hopefully (how could it hurt), make a tremendous difference for this club.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 2, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe they're waiting to announce him as an oriole while they finalize a jones trade?

i wonder how long crisp’s twitter avatar has been a picture of himself as a kid in an orioles jersey.

by j o incandenza on Jan 2, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

check out his twitter pic

Sweet jersey, kid!

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 2, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

linky

http://twitter.com/#!/Coco_Crisp

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 2, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

crazy.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 2, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

He better be cheap.

And if he agreed to sport the gigantic afro I’d be happy.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 2, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

rick peterson...

me gusta.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 2, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too

particularly for his approach to coaching the mental side of pitching – it seems clear that our young pitchers are all fucked up in the head.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 2, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions  

after reading the article

I think I might be more psyched about this Correnti dude. Get him to go to work on Matusz.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 2, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah...

really sounds very promising.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 2, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m emailing my buddies who are still in the pitching mechanics world to see what they know about him.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 2, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd also check with dsciswe

see what his scouts are saying

by Luke E on Jan 2, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

who do you think pulled the trigger on this deal?!

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 2, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought he wanted to sign some aging free agent starters?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 2, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

No no no he doesn't know scouts.

He knows warehouse people.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 2, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh wait

I think he knows scouts AND warehouse people. He wins most connected CC member.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 2, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

hope it works out better than with Mazzone...

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 3, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Word is that Crisp signing will be followed by Jones to Atlanta...

…Jurrjens and…?

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 12:33 AM EST reply actions  

Minor or Delgado!

fingers crossed

When they look up from the gutter where their dreams have gone to die they will see only orange and black. -EME

by The Josh on Jan 3, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty Please!

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

unless the “and…” is an awesome prospect is there any reason to be happy about this?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

He's still good, but def not good enough to be the only return for AJ

and I bet it will be a top pitching prospect. They have them coming out the ears and they desperately need a real CF

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean he is definitely good

but a) he’s getting rapidly more expensive, b) he has health concerns, c) I worry about the potential for a low k/9 relatively high bb/9 guy in the AL East. I’d be cool with another top pitching prospect and him though…

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by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, that's hard to say

On the one hand, I’d have to think the trade value for Jones is better than Jurrjens and any of the Braves pitching prospects besides Teheran (and seriously, what do we want Jurrjens for anyways, unless to flip him too) – although you could make the case that in this market, Teheran is so valuable as to be nearly untradeable. But I don’t think Minor is all that great, and I’m not convinced that Vizcaino or Delgado are starters in the long run, so there isn’t really a potential awesome prospect in this deal. I don’t think that the Braves and the O’s match up especially well, honestly, but that’s also because I don’t value pitching prospects as highly as positional ones, and that’s what I think the O’s need much more.

But you don’t get to pick who wants your players when you reach the moment where they really must be traded. And because the Orioles foolishly didn’t put Jones on the market and set up a bidding war, they have let their options dwindle. The Nats spent their prospects on Gio Gonzalez. The Marlins need a center fielder, but don’t have any prospects. The Cardinals could use Jones but don’t need him enough to part with their most valuable prospects. The other contenders are mostly set at center field because almost by definition you have to be unless you are awesome everywhere else.

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by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Would you prefer they just held onto Jones instead of making a deal for Jurrjens and say Minor?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh

Not really. They need to move Jones. I just think that if they make that deal, it is because they didn’t explore their options around the league but instead fixated on the Braves and Jurrjens, who I don’t like very much at all. If Jurrjens is a significant part of the return, then the O’s are making a poor decision – dealing one overvalued asset for another even more overvalued one.

To me, this entire potential deal is doing the right thing – trading Jones – for the wrong reason, to obtain Jurrjens. But holding on to Jones is also a losing play. If Mike Minor alone was literally the best return we could get for Jones, we would still be better off as an organization. But I don’t think that Minor is the best possible return, and so making that deal is just a different kind of failure to me.

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by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd be shocked if they only got Jurrjens OR Minor for AJ.

If Jurrjens does end up in Baltimore, we’ll get at least another top pitching prospect and those have value if you have bulk/ ability to develop arms (I know, I know). Position prospects are more valuable than pitching prospects because they are a better bet but a young pitcher is far more valuable than a young position player.

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by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I suspect that if this happens...

…it will be Jones and Andino for Jurrjens, Prado, Delgado and a low minors guy, maybe Salcedo if we are lucky.

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by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Any reason to suspect Andino is being discussed?

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

He's been asked about a lot this offseason, we've heard..

….and he makes a ton of sense – a backup for the Braves who can fill in at short if Pastornicky bombs, and he’ll be redundant if we pick up Prado.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Why not just keep Prado?

He plays everywhere else but SS

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Because, for whatever stupid reason, the Braves seem to want to move him

I think it is a dumb move for them, but that’s the way it seems to be.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

For the same reson, I think it's stupid to swap Andino for him.

But if we get Prado + decent (B-/C+) prospect for Andino, that’s a win.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Prado > Andino

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

(Prado+his salary)<(Andino+his salary)

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Lies.

Nothing but lies.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

What's your ideal trade haul for Jones?

Generally speaking, not necessarily tied to a particular team.

I definitely think that raiding some of those prospects the Nats sent to Oakland would have been better for the O’s. I don’t know why they didn’t shop Jones, either.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 2:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Oakland is a bad fit for AJ.

His defense in CF is mediocre/OK in OPACY, just think of what would happen in the whateverthenameis Colosseum.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he was suggesting

that we should have gotten those prospects from the Nats before the Gio trade.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Not exactly..

….we don’t have any use for Derek Norris, and he’s a big part of that deal. But Cole would have been as nice a piece as any Braves pitcher not named Julio Teheran.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I was talking about EME

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by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I think a reasonable return is two B/B+ prospects and a lower minors ceiling guy

My ideal last season would have been Belt/Wheeler/Gary Brown from the Giants. Something like the Singleton/Cosart deal that Philly gave up for Pence also would do nicely. But I think you need two high probability/high upside prospects, and one ought to be a position player.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:24 AM EST up reply actions  

totally

Plus it’s just a matter of time before Jurrjens has an appointment with Dr. Andrews. This will be a regrettable trade IMO, but ultimately probably meaningless.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 3, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Well

Aren’t they all ultimately probably meaningless? The situation is pretty futile.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

It feels futile for sure,

but as pointed out upthread, acquiring Jurrjens makes little sense. Either go all in or don’t. The Orioles didn’t go all in when they dealt Bedard and Tejada because they didn’t deal Roberts. Of course, even if they dealt Roberts, it wouldn’t have mattered. If the Orioles want to tear it down and try to build around Wieters, no use in acquiring Jurrjens.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 3, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

It's too late to tear it down and build around Wieters.

Because by the time something’s built, he’s gonna be a free agent. Sad but true.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

The logical part of me knows you are right,

sigh.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 3, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

But

if you surround him with guys who will be free agents 2 years before he will be then we’re on the right track! lol

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh

Say Machado and Bundy are in the majors in two years. Machado, Bundy, Britton, maybe one of Arrieta or Matusz, and two more seasons of Wieters.

That’s a core that can contend, but only if all those players turn out like they could.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Disagree (partially).

You are not counting some key potential pieces like B. Bundy and Schoop. Also remember, in the next two years there will be players we’ve never counted on to develop that will and some will fail. It’s how it works. Not all of who you named will make it but others will instead.
And if we are close to contending (and with proper roster construction) we can fill the remaining holes by trading prospects or FA.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Bobby Bundy doesn't have the upside to be a core player

He’s a nice mid rotation arm, which is a fourth starter in the AL East. Schoop is not going to be in the majors in two years, as nice as he is.

The O’s don’t have anyone with the ceiling of Machado and Dylan Bundy who has a shot of being in the majors soon enough. But if those guys are the phenoms people claim they are, it could work. Of course, Wieters has to get a lot better too.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

If B.B is projected as a mid-rotation arm (which he is)

then that’s what he’s projected as.
And no one has more than two prospects with D. Bundy’s & Machado’s ceiling. And Wieters is on the upswing. Outstanding D and solid hitting. I’m high on SHJ and I think his power jump is real.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Several teams have more than two with their ceiling...

…with their combo of ceiling and probability, not as much. But the Royals do, and so do the Mariners, and so does Pittsburgh, and so does Arizona, and that’s just off the top of my head.

I’m high on Wieters too.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

And duh, the Nationals...

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

When you're right, you're right.

Esp. about this.

…with their combo of ceiling and probability, not as much.
which is also very improtant.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 1:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yuck.

Two years of a decent pitcher is not cool and unless we get a good prospect, this sounds pretty shitty.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, where is this word coming from?

Anything substantial behind these rumors?

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Melewski on twitter

Does that count?

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Britt Ghiroli has mentioned them too.

Right as she is about to go on vacation – hah, she’ll miss all the fun.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure she will find a way to tweet...

…Adam Jones was great, and a joy to cover, but the O’s were desperate for pitching and Duquette needed to put his stamp on the team and blah blah I wish I covered the Yankees.

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by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I have never gotten the impression from her that she would like to be elsewhere.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you confused her with Jen Royale.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Did I?

Oops, my apologies to her.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I didn’t see that so I was just curious.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Not going to be impressed if the big name we get for Jones is a guy who also has only 2 years of service time left.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Me either

I don’t understand our interest in Jurrjens at all. Prado either, and I like Prado much more than Jurrjens.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

get 'em

No reason to waste an asset like Jones on a guy who will be a free agent at the same time.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 3, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Except...

…Jones is only an asset if you spend him. If you keep him, you get nothing.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess what I mean is deal Jones for cost controlled prospects,

not Jair Jurrjens.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 3, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, it means you have to deal Jones

They have gone about it all wrong, but it has to be done. Yes, deal him for prospects, less even for the cost control and more because they will be around when Machado and Bundy are, and only when they are and if they are what we hope they can be do we have a shot at being good. Ergo, Jurrjens has no value to us (he’s also injury prone and seriously outperforms his peripherals, which are both big reasons why everyone else has gone for some other pitcher on the market).

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Bingo.

If we’re trading Jones we should probably be getting a bunch of 19-22 year old dudes. Not a guy who’s about to be 26, and more importantly, has four full seasons in the big leagues already.

And also IS GOING TO GET KILLED IN THE AL EAST.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

This

Somebody tell DD that anybody we acquire in a trade shouldn’t be able to rent a car.

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by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Yikes

suicide watch for Stanford kicker…

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by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:41 AM EST reply actions  

I feel for that kid.

Tough to be a freshman.

When they look up from the gutter where their dreams have gone to die they will see only orange and black. -EME

by The Josh on Jan 3, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Probably better than being a senior though

got a lot more kicks ahead of him.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I didn’t know there were so many other night owls on CC. I usually check in around this time and get crickets.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I go back to work Wednesday, sadly.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

drinks and cspan for the iowa caucas!

I’m off all week. If only I cared about college football!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 3, 2012 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't care at all about the Iowa caucus.

You heard it here for probably the 1000th time: Romney will be the nominee. He will lose to Obama. You can turn off CNN for the next year now and miss nothing.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:28 AM EST up reply actions  

But the POLLS say Paul is tied for 1st!!!!!

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 2:29 AM EST up reply actions  

The Republicans aren't stupid enough to nominate Ron Paul..

….he’d actually win!

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

He won't get any of the minority vote though!!

Oh, that’s right, that doesn’t affect the number of Republican votes anyway.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

haha no way

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure how Obama can lose,

primarily because Daniels and Christie were his only serious threats.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 3, 2012 2:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Christie is MUCH too fat to be president.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:51 AM EST up reply actions  

prolly,

but the current candidates all have really serious flaws. Only a democrat could screw it up ;)

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 3, 2012 2:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I read an interesting comparison

of this GOP primary and the 1980 primary. Obama is nowhere near as vulnerable as Carter was, but the perceived ridiculousness of the candidates is somewhat comparable. We all know how that one turned out…

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:20 AM EST up reply actions  

This seems like the most likely outcome

but I’m still scared the second part of that will go the other way.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

That is why I am actively rooting for Santourm.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Or Bachman

is she still running?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

I honestly think, whichever wacko promises to bomb the most foreign looking people will win.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 2:53 AM EST up reply actions  

If he didn't look foreign

He’d win in a landslide.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Results aside,

Watching the democratic process is pretty fun. I was watching a townhall, and an Iowa resident asked Romney: “I don’t even recognize America anymore, what do you think?”

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 3, 2012 2:50 AM EST up reply actions  

There's actually shit happening late at night tonight.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

well

speculation of things happening at least.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

That's more than we've gotten for the rest of the offseason so far.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm fine with how the offseason has gone so far,

but if the O’s make a good trade with AJ, it’ll be a great one (pending inevitable multi-year, multi-million FA RP signing).

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

great for the orioles

not great in the broader MLB sense.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Everything is relative.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

What "late-night"?

It’s 9 in the morning :)

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

sobering?

May I recommend Johnnie Walker Red?

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 3, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Boo.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

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