Thursday Bird Droppings
by Stacey on Jan 26, 2012 7:40 AM EST
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PrintYesterday in the open thread someone mentioned the Camden Chat Facebook page and a number of people were unaware that such a thing exists. So now I'm telling you! Like us! It's good for my ego. And while we're at it, you can follow us on the Twitter if you want as well. @CamdenChat, @EatMoreEsskay, @gibsonandrew.
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i left at 4 yesterday and saw another 350+ comments were posted after i left. people clearly were not productive at their jobs yesterday
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
my guess
is a discussion on which ladies of the world are attractive and which are so ugly you would never, ever, ever do them despite all their boring Hollywood success. Follow that with a discussion on iPads vs. Kindles, and a tangent about how Macs are too dang expensive. There will be hilarious and original birdman’s mom and duck is old jokes, and undoubtedly Risk games to be played. If you’re good, you might even see some small baseball chit-chat, but it’s far more likely you’ll see an old-fashioned dick-swinging contest in one form or another.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
by Andrew_G on Jan 26, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
And some random Mitch Hedberg one-liners would be nice.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
"I got so much tartar, I don't have to dip my fishsticks in shit!"
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 8:23 AM EST up reply actions
"Wait.. that's actually kind of gross"
“After that joke I always clarify, that I’m just joking. I don’t know how much tartar I actually have. I believe it’s the average amount.”
"I do not know how much tartar I actually have."
“I believe it’s the average amount. If we all took a tartar test right now, my name would be right in the f’n middle.”
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
i'm gonna rec
even though i can’t tell if sarcastic or bitter
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
True
I’m going with the bitter.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
I like when someone says "do you".
I’m like buddy, you have no idea.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
At least two of those items will turn into heated exchanges.
Also…I haven’t played Risk in like….a week+. Let’s play.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
You're my favorite
I for one could do with less of the constant hot lady talk. It’s gotten a little out of hand.
by Stacey on Jan 26, 2012 8:46 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm just saying, we should absolutely keep things equal here.
If we’ve gotten too involved with the discussion of attractive ladies, then I have no problem with having a discussion of attractive men.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
I don't feel the need to endlessly discuss men
by Stacey on Jan 26, 2012 9:09 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
And that's why chicks are different than dudes
We talk about hot chicks ALL THE TIME.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
That's entirely the wrong way of looking at it. I hope you're joking.
We shouldn’t talk about anything that could so easily offend a group of people. Like talking about women the past few days, or talking in great detail about… bodily functions.
I know, I was on the ground level of the Hottie Bracket last year, but A) that was in a fanpost that could be easily be avoided if one chose to do so, and B) I realized soon after that started that it could easily get out of hand, and I kind of regretted it when the discussions went south. By that I mean, we shouldn’t be talking about how anyone is “ugly” and we shouldn’t pick apart people’s features and cite those features as a reason that someone is unattractive. Think about that for two seconds. You are easily offending any person at all who shares those physical features (or has self esteem issues and applies anything you bring up to themselves somehow).
And on a lesser scale: do we need pictures of women posted each day? Almost all of us are at work, on our work computers, doing something we shouldn’t be doing. We’re almost all being watched by IT to some degree or another. We don’t need that kind of red flag, and even if IT isn’t involved we don’t need people walking by our offices or cubicles and seeing that.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Well, okay then.
I assume that the last thing we need is a drag-out argument over the merits of previous topics of conversation, so… moving on.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks for this, AMD
I was thinking about this on the drive to work, and I was thinking about how we joke that I’m the only girl who really hangs around here. One of the things I really loved about CC when I first started coming here way back in 2005 was that it wasn’t a place that felt male dominated (even though it was) because there wasn’t really much of that stuff around (except for that weirdo Larry Bigbie 3 of course).
I love the open threads because I think they really do build community, but of late I feel like it’s grown into that territory that would put people off, like a girl showing up wanting to talk about some baseball and seeing five billion pictures of ladies in the comments. Who would stick around for that?
Haha, that's what I was going to say but decided against.
Mine was gonna be the L word though.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
hahaha I was just going to say that
but I decided against it cause I thought I may get crucified for it.
@sibsinExile
not that i disagree...
but it seems this place is not as ridiculous as others. lonestar ball, for instance, is crazy!
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 26, 2012 10:41 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I will say this
my original comment was meant two-thirds in jesting satire. However, my time here has been sliced down significantly because I have work to do that I actually care about doing nowadays, but I’m usually up for conversation anyway…until I jump into the thread and its the same three things seemingly all the time and often a semi-sexist conversation about the ladies. It sends me right back to work.
Which is fine. Maybe even good. I know that sounds like judging, but I try hard in my life to not judge anyone for anything. And if y’all want to talk about the ladies all day absolutely don’t let me stop you (I can’t anyway). And have a good time. But know that it does hurt portions of the community, those who would join otherwise but don’t because of it, and those who have been here but are still repelled by it. It is what it is.
On the other hand, there’s like not much going on in the world of the Orioles, really, right? So what should we all talk about, really?
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I'm voting Kang.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
by Zeke McGeek on Jan 26, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
tiny american flags for some...
abortions for others!
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Tim Wilson For Benevolent Dictator, 2012
Some Sh!t’s Gonna Change
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Newt! And prove the Mayans right
Because if he wins the rest of the world is gonna nuke the hell out of us some time during the transision, say around 12-21-12
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
I also think you're blowing the amount of time spent on talking about women here
I stopped commenting about 6 when I went home from work and had fun stuff to do at home. So maybe the thread exploded afterwards. But the last I remember there were about 5 pictures of women posted in a thread that was around 50 comments long.
This is comparable to a wide variety of other threads that were made. In the past few days, there’s been much more time dedicated to things like “What is a sport?”
And as has been mentioned before, some of the other places on SBNation are much worse. We don’t pollute our threads with animated gifs of bouncing breasts or anything like that.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Like heaven?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Don't rub it in
having work to do that you actually care about.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
But know that it does hurt portions of the community, those who would join otherwise but don’t because of it, and those who have been here but are still repelled by it. It is what it is.
I’m not disagreeing (I really don’t have opinion actually), but what makes you say this? Is there google analytics data on the website that suggests this? Or the fact that CC is a lilly, white, male, 20-30s zone of testosterone which suggests that all of the hottie talk keep the diversity down?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
At the same time...
Who’s going to stick around during the winter when there might be 30 comments that are baseball related that can be made? It’s not a problem during the season, because we have something to talk about every day that’s relevant to the topic of the site.
During the winter? There’s only so many words that can be written about Wilson Betemit’s 2 year contract.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
Don't forget the vesting option!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
macphailed!
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 26, 2012 10:54 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Hey I don't care if people talk about hot ladies some
I mean, I participated in the hottie bracket. I’m just saying when that begins to dominate the conversation the way it has the past few days it makes this place a pretty unattractive destination for a lot of people.
It’ll all work itself out when baseball starts.
Last year was like knives out at all times
this year the only person whipping anything out on a regular basis is WW, and the police have already talked to him about that several times.
I don't think it's dominated conversation nearly to the extent it's being portrayed
Yeah, a thread has come up about it mostly every day for the past week or so. I don’t remember it coming up that often prior to that time frame. Some of the threads have gotten long, but they are rarely the longest or deepest threads on a daily basis.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Hell we talked at length about Tax software the other day
I am sure that drove away a few women.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 26, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
I am dissapointed I missed that one
I have a bone to pick with turbo tax
ooo ooo what is it??
i was the one that started that discussion because i was looking for a recommendation on who to do my taxes through, consensus here was i could probably just use TurboTax
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I used turbo tax last year
but this year I moved and started renting out my old house. Turbo tax wanted me to pay 50 dollars for the package that had residential rental property advice in it.
My dad reccomended Tax Act which isn’t as polished as turbo tax but is much cheaper and contains all of the residental rental advice in it.
my parents have complicated taxes
Well, not complicated enough to get an accountant, but enough that they buy the fancy version of Turbo Tax. Every year I just go to their house and use it. I’m a moocher.
Well you can do at least 8 returns on it, so why not?
Not using it would be a waste!
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
I used to love
hoping over to dad’s place for the free file haha. He finally told me to get my own software.
I am liking it so far
I have had to do a little more looking up of terms and forms just to make sure that I understood what was going on than I had to do with turbo tax but overall it has been good to me for the price.
Hey man...I use TurboTax.
It works just fine!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
Flagged, he said bone
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone who owns a house, is married, and has any number of children
should stay the eff away from TurboTax. Unless you like forking over a lot more money than you should, that is.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Go on....
I use H&Rs software and have all those things. Am I getting boned?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
I don''t buy it
You might be paying a little bit more than you would with a really excellent professional, but a little more doesn’t pay their fee.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yeah, I figured this...
A real pro might be able to get me a few extra bucks (I’d say in the ballpark of a hundo) but once I actually went to H&R and they told me it was like $350 to finish my return. I gathered up my papers, laughed, and walked out the front door.
Especially when it was some person who appeared to have been trained on the software moments before I got there and just read the questions to me and typed everything I answered. I can type myself.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
I have an accountant in Baltimore who charges us $50 for a full return.
She’s done a good job, especially handling the craptacular fuck-up that my previous company made with my tax withholding.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Mine charges $80.
Every time I leave her house I want to go and bake her a cake and throw her a party. She knows things about tax code I didn’t know existed.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
These are just crazy numbers
I don’t really understand how these people are making a living. I talked to 5-10 accountants last year that do this for a living (primarily) and none of them were under $300.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
This
I get charged like $350
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I always use the free military version of H&R
Always nervous I’m missing out on stuff but deductions are deductions right? I don’t have some obscure thousands of dollar deduction I’m missing. I mean it’s like ok, house, kids, charity, bus. expenses, stock shit…. blah blah. I’m not sure what huge deduction a true accountant is gonna uncover but it would have to be some nickel and dime thing for me not to have thought of it.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
She works as an accountant too
She only does taxes 4 months out of the year and has about 5-600 clients. If she charges $100 a return, that’s 50-60k for those 4 months. She also works as the primary accountant at a used car lot and is allowed to use their office space for free. She also does bookkeeping for a few other local businesses.
counting weekends thats 5 returns a day for 4 months
depending on the complexity that isn’t too bad. However if people are paying 100 to get their tax returns done then I imagine they have some complex stuff in there.
She does work weekends
And through the course of tax season, she works from like 8 AM to midnight or so.
Also
going to a pro at H&R block is not likely to get you anything more – I saw a study where they were far outpaced by the software systems in terms of refund amount and frequency of major errors/audits. You’d have to go to an actual accountant and then you’re looking at $500 minimum.
Although I already see that people are saying they know people that charge way less which is confusing to me because I shopped around last year.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Unless you're the one having the kids, I think it's the other way around.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
3 years ago TT informed us we owed $6K.
Accountant wizard got us that much back from the gubmint. It is overly simplistic and does not ask you a lot of questions that a real accountant would.
(and, for the record, I’m talking about a dedicated accountant, not an HR rep that is looking to get your greedy arse out the door as quickly as possible so their horrible day can end in a fuzzy warm blur at the bar.)
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
I'm thinking you did something wrong, bro.
I really can’t imagine a 12K swing.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
B'lieve it or not.
Ignoring the inference that two folks in our respective professions can’t figure out something as simplistic as TurboTax, let’s just say that there are assumptions that TT makes that it shouldn’t. In addition, there are plenty of things it never bothers to ask you. Go ask a real, dedicated accountant what they think of it & how thorough it is.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Of course they don't think much of it - it costs them business
but studies have shown that far and away there are fewer errors/audits and bigger total returns (subtracting accountant fees) when using the software.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
You know accountants that are hurting for business during tax season?
By that logic, nobody in the industry could give an objective analysis.
I’ll swallow the $80, thanks.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
People that don't have a vested interest in whether or not people use the software as opposed to an accountant can and do give objective analysis.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
yeah this sounds like a very specific case where something went wrong
I think on the average paying somebody is throwing money away.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Why, speficially?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
There's a huge difference between talking about non-baseball issues and being inappropriate
This is in response to Andrew G above as well. And I’m not calling anyone out.
I wouldn’t be here if all we talked about is baseball, quite frankly. The OT’s are what interested me in this place originally. We talk about a vast array of things here. Some I’m interested in talking about. Some not. Far be it for me to say, this is okay but this isn’t. But yeah, keep it appropriate is all I’m saying. We can’t grow if it’s inappropriate.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
I don't believe we've done anything inappropriate here
DRaysBay is inappropriate, with their game threads filled with animated gifs of girls in bikinis jumping up and down.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Okay, well maybe they are inappropriate too
I don’t want to nitpick individual instances from our community or one other community.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
You tell em HM
You gotta FIIIIIIIIGHT, for your RIIIIIIIGHT to talkabouthotchicksonoriolesblogopenthreads!!!!!!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Honestly?
I don’t care. If we get told to not do it, I won’t and likely won’t care much.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Meh, I'm not reading it as NEVER TALK ABOUT HOT CHICKS
Just more of a tone it down a little type thing. If something relevant comes up and I feel the need to say how much I love Eva Mendes, I’ll likely say it.
And I don’t think posting a pic here and there is a big deal, but I can see how it can be awkward if someone is at work and someone walks by and sees a bunch of maxim type pics up on their screen.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Right. I wasn't saying that I felt that was the direction of the conversation
Merely that if it were to happen, I would not mind.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
This
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
this
CC is like a neighborhood Os bar. We all come to the bar every night to watch the game, and we swap a few stories of our lives between the innings.
In the offseason, the TV over the bar is always off, but we keep coming because it’s a place “where everybody knows your name”. And yeah, we talk a little baseball, but it’s a bar and so naturally we focus just as much on our common interests (and our differences too, for that matter).
CC in the offseason is way more than an Orioles blog. It’s a daily fix for all of us to keep connecting with the other poor souls in the club. Especially for us members of the diaspOra who no longer live in the region. It’s a reminder that we are not alone.
And as maddening and random as the OT stuff can get, if we were only discussing the minutiae of the offseason, there’s no way I’d be here every day. I need to fill up other areas of my life because if I only focused on the Os, I’d have to off myself.
For those who find it overbearing, I’d say: tune back in after pitchers and catchers. Because the rest of us are who we are, and that’s what makes this place special and warped at the same time.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Jan 26, 2012 11:23 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 3 recs
I agree with this
but i think AMD was largely just requesting it be a little more SFW, at least during work hours, which I also agree with.
I just teared up Norm.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I don't find it overbearing
I just find that lately it’s been taking a turn that I’m not always comfortable with. And frankly, without being too much of a prick about it, my comfortableness is the most important.
well of course
you’re our bartender. we expect you to kick out the sloppy drunks, etc.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I just find that lately it’s been taking a turn that I’m not always comfortable with. And frankly, without being too much of a prick about it, my comfortableness is the most important.
Could you be more specific about which topics? I have a guess but I’m not sure. I want to know because I’ll stop commenting on those matters.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Well, when things that I am doing to offend others are brought to my attention, I try to pull back.
This is another on that list and I will respect the opinions of others who have a different idea of how our off-season discussions should go.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
That's true
I do too. If people are getting bothered by it, I’ll reign in my comments and the like. As I said before, the main reason I made most of them were because I often feel egged on by the “Needs more black lipstick /HM’d” style comments. It’s not that I mind those comments, I find them quite funny. I just find the jokes funnier when I get to be involved in them.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
How many times do I have to dispute this notion?
I was thinking about how we joke that I’m the only girl who really hangs around here.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Whatever happened to 2632?
Wasn’t she a girl? Her name was G-something I think.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
she's very, very busy
saving the world. my guess is you may see more of her in mid-November.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I suspect it has to do with your youth.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Now we're getting into the territory of language usage versus actual meanings...
In Korea, they have specific terminology and a delineation for when a girl turns into a woman. It may be incredibly chauvinistic, but when a woman gets married, she goes from “agashi” to “ajumma”.
In the United States, it’s certainly different. However, there is still some semblance of this remaining.
I am honestly not trying to be offensive, I’m just trying to analyze that which does not need to be analyzed. I would guess that jokes about Stacey being the only girl here are made because she is the only female (that I know of) who is a legal adult, which changes what jokes can be made.
(Anyone is free to tell me to shut up about this topic at any time and I will.)
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Tez takes it too far again. >.<
And don’t call me buddy, pal!
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
*shakes head
Still not right.
Do you want the correct answer?
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
NSOsFan wins.
You may collect your victory kiss from EME at your leisure.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
You don't even know what I dress like!
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, so I'm female.
And I read CC pretty much everyday, even in the off season. I love it, and I hope it never goes away. However, sometime around the bracket I found myself reading/participating in the open thread. The only reason I opened this one was because it’s over 850 replies.
I feel like people don’t really take your on topic comments seriously unless you are a known quantity from the off topic threads, and I just can’t get into the spirit of a lot of the discussions when they are about objectifying women, or when somebody wants to get into a pissing contest about every goddamned thing. I’m pretty easy going. I wouldn’t say this is a hostile environment, but I always deliberately kept my gender to myself, because I felt like it would qualify my opinions in the eyes of pretty much everybody that posts here.
I mean, obviously my posting or not posting makes zero difference in the grand scheme of things, but this has been my experience. Throw it on the pile.
And for the record, I’m not sure “we aren’t as misogynistic as some other guys” is really the ideal. I’m a human being. I haven’t done anything (so far) to make you disrespect me any amount. Not even a little.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
by killertomato on Jan 26, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Question
I feel like people don’t really take your on topic comments seriously unless you are a known quantity from the off topic threads, and I just can’t get into the spirit of a lot of the discussions when they are about objectifying women, or when somebody wants to get into a pissing contest about every goddamned thing.
There are literally hundreds of other innocuous off-topic threads going on, why not participate in those if there is concern the “on topic comments” won’t be taken seriously?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
I also don't think it's necessarily true
If you only post in game threads or about the Orioles, as long as you do it regularly enough and are reasonable, we’ll take you seriously.
Right
So what I was trying to get across, maybe not well, was around that time of the brackets, I found fewer and fewer off topic threads that were appealing. I didn’t leave in a huff, shit just became less like anything I wanted to deal with.
I was pretty active for a while. I got quite a few recs, actually. I’m kind of hilarious, if you don’t know I’m a girl.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
by killertomato on Jan 26, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yes.
That is pretty much the point.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
by killertomato on Jan 26, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Can't please everybody.
In any case, baseball-related posts generally aren’t ignored unless you post once and disappear, then come back, rinse, and repeat. Stay for awhile, introduce yourself, etc. I can’t think of any active posters here (other than Wieters Wieners) who aren’t taken seriously on occasion, regardless of what they post on. We’ve got some folks who are far more active in the OT than the baseball stuff, but almost everybody here gets into baseball discussion to some degree. Anyways….just my two cents.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Why you no respect JB?
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you Westie
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
No you certainly can't please everybody.
But the question Stacey brought up is whether or not women (50% of “everybody”) were displeased enough that they rolled out. I’m just telling you what my personal experience was, which was pretty much that.
Maybe the rest left because they found more rancorous and explicit hottie brackets to bear witness to elsewhere.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
by killertomato on Jan 26, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Those exist!?
Later, playas!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
hmmm
Well, I want to say that sucks you left after reading the hottie stuff. But this does bring up an interesting dilemma. Does CC want to cater to the (very small) minority who are turned off by this stuff or the majority who likes it?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I read this as:
Are we happy with the group of people we have commenting on this site now, or do we want to grow?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
I see us as growing already.
I think that we as a group do a good job of self-moderation i.e. making sure we don’t cross any real lines.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like this for the most part as well
I can recall a dozen times someone jumps in and says “alright, we’re approaching a line” and the group respectfully downshifts and we move on.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
That's one of the things I like about this site.
And the fact we can have a rational discussion about where “the line” should be.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
Eh....that may be putting it sorta simply.
We’re just assuming we scared off tons of people with hottie brackets.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
we are scaring off a very small number of people though.
the question is whether that matters.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
This is also an assumption.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
we have direct evidence from killer tomato.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I think joel meant we're assuming that we scared off a small number of people.
But like kba says, its really unmeasurable.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yes,
but I think given her sound and rationale reasons, I don’t think it’s unfair to say that her comments are representative of a greater group of people. But I also think that greater group of people consists of about 10 people (and this a complete guess and I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m wrong). Which brings me back to my original question, should we cater to those 10 people?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I dont know about cater to
but keeping it mind is easy enough.
sure, self-policing.
Like I said, I’m skeptical of this working in the long run.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I think I expressed my opinion on this sbuject quite clearly above.
But you can’t know how many or few were driven away by “lady-talk” or any other subject or lack thereof unless they tell you directly.
This is why comments like killertomato’s are important.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yea...but I'm gonna leave my posting here.
1) Because its almost time for me to go home and 2) I don’t wanna be accused of arguing and/or pissing anybody off….so I’m going to keep my personal views to meself.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Classic CC Issue.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking for myself
I don’t think we want this site to chase people away because they think it’s too “jocks in the locker room talk” or something.
I get that the open thread is the open thread, but I think we collectively could stand to keep in mind that there are ladies out there other than Stacey who are baseball fans and that more of them might find the site and post if they felt like there was more of an opening to do so.
An endless stream of posts about what women are hot and who’s not hot is really not the way to accomplish this. If somebody thinks, “But they could come here and post about hot men too!” then I feel like this is missing the point. When it’s like that every day, it’s a little over the top.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
This is making a mountain out of a molehill.
Seriously, the “hottie” issue is almost exclusively an offseason phenomenon and a small one at that. Far more e-ink is spilled over PC v Mac, beers, football, or whatever. There is plenty else to discuss and read even in OTs that have lady-talk.
This is getting way more atteintion than it should.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Well, that's really a false dilemma
Would the current majority leave if we toned down on the hottie stuff? I don’t believe so. While the minority who are pusehd away would come back.
Would the current majority leave if we toned down on the hottie stuff?
I sort of using hottie stuff as a metaphor for lady talk in general. And my answer is yes, I think a certain slice of the majority would leave.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I think the number of people who would leave is smaller than the number of people who are put off by it.
At first i thought the hottie bracket was amusing, but the longer it went on the less l liked it. And i used to not care since i was either in school or unemployed, but now that i’m in an office, i’m less comfortable with it.
I wasn't a fan of the bracket
not because of any issues relating to sexism or comfort level – I just didn’t find them interesting. But since they were in their own threads it was incredibly easy to ignore them entirely.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I think the number of people who would leave is smaller than the number of people who are put off by it.
Yeah, I tend to disagree and I think the opposite (the number of people from the majority leaving would be bigger than the small minority put off by hottie talk), but we’re both just guessing.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I don't want to start naming names
but i can’t honestly think of anyone who would leave because they can’t post Maxim pictures anymore
It's definitely been daily this week.
And you never know who is going to look at the site for the first time on a given day. That’s what I’m getting at.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
again,
it’s just not hottie pictures, it’s trashy lady talk in general which goes on regularly. and if stacey starting banning people and/or erased comments that engaged in such talk, site traffic would decline.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
No one's talking about deleting or banning
It’s only been a quite reasonable request to tone it down somewhat. If people can’t realize that and follow the request, then why would we trust them to follow any of the other rules the site has?
No one’s talking about deleting or banning
Sure, but we are talking about whether informally reducing or eliminating such talk would keep certain people around more.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I'm pretty sure nobody would leave.
We still have Milk to argue about.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
we already have one person who said they left because of the talk.
the question is whether she’s an anomaly or represents a greater group of people.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
lol
we already have one person who said they left because of the talk.
But someone was around to read when the topic came up on whether we need to downshift.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
she's lurker because of you JB!
and now she’s gone back to lurking.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Of all the things that have been hotly debated
The lady thing is pretty far down the list when it comes to arguments and controversy, I think. We’re nerds for the most part and we debate nerdy things. As Brian Posehn said, “being a nerd, I know the quickest way to piss off a nerd is to get their obsession wrong.”
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
the question is whether the lady talk drives away traffic.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
If someone clicks on an OT on a given day
reads through it and focuses on the lady-talk, he’s looking for a reason to leave.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
It's like turning off a football game
because you don’t like the sweater some guy is wearing in the stands.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
No...
It’s like turning off a football game because the announcer screams loudly into the mic every 20 minutes.
Seriously, I think the amount of lady-talk
is being exaggerated. But I usually just ‘z’ through it anyway.
See what I did? I focused on the parts of the conversation that interest me.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I agree it's been exaggerated, but...
Several people have expressed their displeasure with it.
And it’s not that they are UNINTERESTED in the stuff. It’s that they have specific problems with it.
Let me put it this way… If every day there was a debate on Camden Chat about religion and people on one side were constantly denigrating whatever religious beliefs you had, would you feel put off? Or say it’s not even religious beliefs… Say your favorite color is yellow, and there were a large, vocal portion of the site who always debated colors with regular “Anyone who likes yellow is an idiot” comments. Once or twice, rarely, not too big a problem. Every day it becomes off putting.
Ha!
Get real… if I was offended by a majority shitting on my political beliefs OFTEN, I’d be ghost bro. It’s VERY common for an anti-republican rant to start and 90% of repliers to pile on and make conservatives feel uncomfortable.
I used to jump in and share my point of view but eventually realized it was stupid to try and even combat the title wave and just started ignoring it as much as I could. Don’t act like that is the only thing around here that makes people uncomfortable. BUT, it’s the internet, it’s an open forum where people share ideas and I get that.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
yea this.
98.9 percent of the politics talk originates from somebody other than the two conservatives here. It pisses me off too, but you’re free to talk about whatever.
Also, JB…c’mon….it’s TIDAL wave. You’re making the conservatives look bad. :-)
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Hey bro
you know there is three of us.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
I forgot you were conservative!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
As far as I know I still am.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
Are not is.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
lol what?
i’m so confused
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yea that's difficult to follow.
Hey bro you know there is three of us.
Are, not is.
I forgot you were conservative
As far as I know I still am.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry....I make the connection with "are, not is" comment.
Sue me. Hard to follow when everything is on the sidebar.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Fack...DIDN'T make the connection
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yea I figured.
Once I posted them both I was looking at it like wtf does this say, lol.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
You guys really aren't helping the overall image
of CC conservatives.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
Shut it hippy.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
I am, not ...a .... fucking.... hippie.
Seriously, make fun of me for Helen Mirren all you want. But don’t call me a dirty stinky hippie.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever
I feel like an outcast. I’m going back to FoxNews.com.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
Use your ''up'' buttons dammit!
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Nevermind.
I misunderstood it as you saying you were lost.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
It was actually quite Shakespearean
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 27, 2012 2:51 AM EST up reply actions
Or maybe
I said Fox News because the masses seem to think that all conservatives live and die by Fox News.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Yep.
I put Fox News on while I sleep so that I soak up all of those conservative ideals. I wake up in the morning and its “DEATH TO TAXES” and “poor people can suck it!!!!”
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
speaking of politics
How come I can’t find of video of Jan Brewer sticking it to Obama. I see still life photos but no video.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Wow
I leave for two hours, and you guys make fulls of us all.
#ididthatonporpoise
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
You didn't do that on purpose.
You did that because conservatives have nothing intelligent to say.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Kinda like the president.
OH SHIT. See what I did there?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Of course it does
you guys don’t have anything intelligent to say – just like your candidates and elected officials. BOOM!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
and if you leave because you don’t want “z” through all the trashy stuff, then good riddance?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
honestly
I don’t know either. that’s why i said an interesting dilemma. but this is how i would think the issue. take both sides and think about the ramifications.
part of me agrees with J(o’s). if you don’t like the trashy lady talk, z through it and if you leave because you don’t want to z through it, then so be it. bye, don’t let the door hit in the ass on the way out. but part of me wants to be as inclusive as possible. and if reducing the trashy lady talk help keeps 10 or so people around more, that’s good.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
But also, how many more Regulars can this site handle?
If we are hitting 1,000 in OTs and maybe getting around there for GTs depending on the game (Some games last year got 2 overflows). At what point does it become too much commenting. For a lot of people the familiarity of the commenting base is a big reason why we come here. We have been commenting with the same people for years and I def. welcome new people with good contributions, I like commenting with the same 20 or so people who I know. Maybe we should have an application process for CC (that’s a joke).
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I think
I think we should all be capable of reducing it to more tolerable levels. It shouldn’t be something that a person will see every day if they come here. After a while, z’ing through tons of crap you don’t want to read becomes annoying, especially when it’s the same topic EVERY DAY.
I'd love to be as inclusive as possible.
But to be honest, people have conflicting opinions, desires and requirements.
What about dciswe (the Vlad guy)? Should we tailor CC to cater to the Yahoo and MASN commentators? I say no. I think CC has a high level of analysis and writing and those who don’t like it have other places to get their O’s info.
There is obviously a difference between that and what we are talking about.
I don’t think it gets overly crass in here, the things I don’t want to read I don’t read and so on.
All in all I feel that the usual commenters do a good job of policing ourselves (with the guidance of bowser and her Goombas).
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
So I guess what I'm saying is I'm
more for self-policing, letting the population of CC guide the evolution of our community.
When things get crass, the mods step in. But if everyone wants to talk whatever, let it flow.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'm skeptical of self-policing working.
May work for a short time, but not in the long run.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Really?
I think most people here know where the lines are.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
yeah,
we know not to say c***, p****y, etc. but that’s not what I’m talking about.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I thought the second one was allowed
You’re allowed to call someone a pussy, but you can’t say they have one as an insult.
I don't think you can call someone a pussy here.
But maybe I’m wrong.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I'm pretty sure it's OK.
In fact I think this very topic was discussed in the gamethread where JP blew up after he left.
I think (and feel) that it's not OK
in a sexual connotation.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
I can't tell what replies are to what
because we’re so far indented. But I don’t think you can call sexism on saying someone is a pussy when it’s perfectly acceptable to call people dicks all the time.
My issue is when you insult a man by saying he has a pussy, is on his period, etc. That’s insulting a man by giving him female attributes, which is not ok.
That being said, the C word isn’t ok with me at all because I just can’t stand it.
Right, exactly
This is what I always remembered the guideline was.
I don’t call people pussies in general (I prefer the terms wuss, pansy, or foppish dandy), but that’s what I remembered.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Foppish Dandies
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure if you're a huffpo reader
but they had an article today on the origins of the c word. Meant to read it but didn’t.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
What are you talking about?
I still don’t see any examples of people crossing any lines.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'm talking about all of the trashy lady talk
the endless pictures of woman and dissecting whether they’re hot is one example.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I feel like that doesn't happen as often as we are saying it does.
I could be wrong, but it seems like maybe twice a week in the offseason this happens. Pretty manageable situation since everyone doing it is a regular
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
regardless of how often it happens,
it was enough to drive away one person. and if it drove away one person, the question is whether they are more people like her.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I'm sure there were.
But how many people are here almost every day because they knoe that they can shoot the breeze here and not have to second guess their every post?
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
exactly.
which brings me back to my original question. which audience do you cater to? do let those people go or do you police the later group to help bring back the alienated group. the solution so far is self-policing. people reduce their trashy talk to help bring back the alienated group. hope it works.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
another way to look at it
yes… right now we know of one person that it drove away (although, I think I remember a similar comment from someone last year… may have come up in an “introduce yourself” thread)
But, as was brought up yesterday… there are just 2 regular female commenters, so even if KT is the ONLY female to have left, that’s still a reduction of 50% in females on the site. When you are offending 1 out of 3 women so much that they don’t come around, you’re doing it wrong.
You don't know how many women lurk here.
And they’re not going to pop out to say “great job on the titty talk!”. No, people are more likely to speak up to object or complain.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
We will never know.
But all the booze talk might drive people, the swearing might turn people away, the politics could turn people without the good nature of a WW away, the SABR talk could turn people away, the religion talk probably turned people away, and I’m sure back and forth insults under prior rapport turned people away. All those topics were probably as damaging to traffic as hottie talk.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
I agree that we will never know but when somebody says something explicitly. we do know.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
One doesn't make it a pattern.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
it may represent a larger group. neither you or i know though.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Yup.
We could always make a poll. See how many people feel it has gone to far.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
This is actually a very good idea.
That wat we might get some lurker votes as well and see what the silent masses also think ( I see you out there [waves hands]).
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
What it does prove is that someone
is bothered by it. The question is do we have to cater to every complaint or do we let the community of commenters shape the discussion.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
What it does prove is that someone
is bothered by it.
It proves the CC could reach to a greater audience.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
More people =/= better people
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yahoo proves this.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
to westie, j(o's), and ahoque
yes, good point.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I'm all for being as inclusive as possible
and I can understand how the atmosphere here can be daunting,
but I so have to “THIS” this.
That is not what I said.
Nor is that what I implied.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
i was just trying to say you could reach more people (in this case specifically, women) if you find out some people were bothered. you guys said, is reaching a greater audience even a worthy goal (see for example yahoo). i think that’s a good point (i.e., is reaching a bigger audience a good goal rather than reaching a better audience), but that’s leaving out women who say they are offended on a poll is a ramification of not trying to reach out.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
So let's have a poll.
See what everyone thinks. If a majority or even a significant minority is uncomfortable with certain subjects the CGs can be changed.
CC will benefit from it no doubt.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree.
But that is a general philosophy of mine.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
I could also argue that it IS working already.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
I like to think of CC...
…as both a thinking person’s blog and a common person’s blog. We are fans but we don’t swallow the Kool-Aid (at least not all of the time), we try to take a deeper look than traditional statistics, but the site has a robust commenting system so that we are not just preaching our beliefs from on high. You can be a part of CC even if you don’t write articles, and that’s a good thing. Readers of the site aren’t just the audience but also members of the community.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
And that's why I love the entire SB system.
It’s inclusive. It’s not THE BLOGGERS telling us what to think. It’s us discussing what we think. And in a OT, that includes taxes, women, beer, video games, bike lanes etc.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
or he or she is turned off by such talk.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Got to see Posehn in concert last Oct.
He’s like a giant Muppet, come to life.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
"Maybe I'm not a huge nerd...
maybe I’ve just been dragging a mattress around all my life."
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, I could do without those people
If a segment of the populace would want to leave simply because they’re told not to get into debates about if chicks are hot or not every day, then I think they’re not really people who contribute a ton to the site anyway.
It's not about ladies or not.
It’s about OTs being open for disscusion within the Community Guidelines. Even more so the hottie bracket (which I didn’t care much about one way oor the other) which were mostly in a separate series of Fanposts.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Of course they should be open for discussion
I think the issue is that some people believe it is going too far and it should be reigned in somewhat in order to make Camden Chat more inclusive to people who might be turned off by an excess of such content.
And I don’t disagree with that. Going back several hours into the conversation, if I were a Devil Rays fan, I’d likely not be a member of DRaysBay because I find their constant posting of gifs of half-naked women on trampolines to be childish and off putting.
And i think you're underestimating the size of the minority that was put off by it
especially since its partly unmeasurable. we’ll never know how many people see it and don’t become part of the community because of it.
give me a reason for why i'm underestimating it.
baseball’s audience is largely male no?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
can be, but i don't think they are to the point where they don't return.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Several people here have pointed out it's close to the line
Because they visit the site during work. I don’t think we’ve crossed the line where it gets off putting to me, but I do believe it could reach that point easily.
Yes, but this site also generates a lot of traffic from working-aged males,
and the stuff at issue definitely skirts the line at times for what is office-appropriate. My perspective on this has definitely change since i began working.
I'm pretty sure that no one's job is
to read Camden Chat, so, unless your on breaks, just being here isn’t ‘’office-appropriate’‘. Not that that really makes a difference in the argument at hand. I’m just sayin’.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
I would say that how do we even know that the majority likes it?
And I of course want to grow. And not be offensive. Or make ladies not like us.
I would say that how do we even know that the majority likes it?
By the volume of comments. Not saying that proves it because it could be 2-3 people making all the trashy lady comments but I don’t think that’s the case.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
We have NO idea how many people have come to this site
and then leave because of this kind of thing.
Orioles aren't good enough to have a significant female fanbase outside of Bmore
I rarely, if ever, meet a female O’s fans (except when I visit Bmore). Let alone ones that would come on CC.
Most woman/ladies I know root for MFY/MFRS
I happen to think that even if you post once and disappear
if you say something worthwhile then why would be ignored? No one should be ignored unless he or she is a moron.
Not really what I meant.
I was leaning more towards the “chuckthefan” style of commenting once with something ridiculous like “we should sign vlad he hits homeruns the orioles dont win games”….then he (or she) disappears for a while and comes back with a similar comment.
There is so much going on in these 1000+ comment threads that stuff gets lost all the time. Even today, somebody I hadn’t seen before posted about international talent. I didn’t even see it until somebody commented on it saying DD wouldn’t do it because they aren’t Asian etc etc.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
you're a known quantity
or maybe I just have a good memory. Regardless, I actually love reading posts from new and/or unfamiliar posters if they actually make a good argument or seem really informed. I don’t think the OT rep has anything to do with what comments I read. In fact, there are a bunch of posters that I really respect that rarely participate in any conversations that aren’t about baseball (ie Vuff, others). During the off-season their presence is felt less than it is during the season when there’s a ton of baseball to discuss every day.
Ok
that should read “no longer reading/participating in the open thread.” Sorry for the confusion.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
by killertomato on Jan 26, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
We don't see gender here.
What is your race though?
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Polish, Hawaiian and Secret Agent.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
by killertomato on Jan 26, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
that'd be funnier if you weren't a girl
by kba26 on Jan 26, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Rec for your trouble, sir.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously though, i think we're pretty gender-neutral as far as credibility
I’m sorry if you’ve felt otherwise, and i agree with you about some of the topics
I don't see gender
People tell me I’m a man and I believe them because I make 20% more than people they tell me are girls.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I feel like people don’t really take your on topic comments seriously unless you are a known quantity from the off topic threads,
I don’t know if being a known quantity helps in getting your comments taken seriously either!
And for the record, I’m not sure "we aren’t as misogynistic as some other guys" is really the ideal. I’m a human being. I haven’t done anything (so far) to make you disrespect me any amount. Not even a little.
I just want to say the whole idea of a hottie contest is a misogynistic.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Also
I feel like people don’t really take your on topic comments seriously unless you are a known quantity from the off topic threads,
Why do you feel this way? I don’t read a lot comments here because I typically show late since I’m on the west coast. So when I show I up, I usually quick scan for baseball comments and any green comments. So I try not to discriminate based on names of the poster when I read and comment on things.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
While I have made comments that likely discouraged you from posting...
Your posting does matter because the more the merrier. And now that I know that I’ve contributed to an environment that has discouraged posting, I will definitely try to curtail that.
I mean, obviously my posting or not posting makes zero difference in the grand scheme of things, but this has been my experience.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, this is all anyone is asking
no ones talking about banning anyone, but the frequency recently has gotten to be a little much and toning it down some seems like a good idea. It doesn’t have to be erased completely.
Yeah
I’ll definitely tone it down, especially as I’m the probably main one people are talking about when they mention the discussion of facial features and the like.
I can understand the work issue
I’m also grossed out by bodily function discussions, but I just skip them.
I only comment about famous ladies so much because I’m constantly egged on by people here. If I wasn’t, I’d comment less often.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
You are easily offending any person at all who shares those physical features (or has self esteem issues and applies anything you bring up to themselves somehow).
Yeah, but this an overwhelming male crowd (as far as I can tell). And the few females here didn’t mind. But I agree that the degree to which dissected the female anatomy got to be out of hand and the amount of bickering over it was ridiculous.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
and not that males can't get upset about body issues...
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I did get called a generic white guy yesterday
After all those years my mom told me I was special and that tall people die earlier than short people I now have self doubt…THANKS A LOT…
Full disclosure:
I might have minded if I read that thread yesterday instead of having a Brothers & Sisters marathon…
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Weren't we just talking about hot black guys for you yesterday?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'll admit to being unaware of the CC Facebook page.
But, is there anything there that I won’t get here? How is it used?
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
I'll just say there are a bunch of pics of Vlad
The last post was about Melmo retiring, and the second to last post was about CC winning a mobbie….. on Nov. 15th.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Ahhhh, I see.
That’s already common knowledge, however.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
by Zeke McGeek on Jan 26, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Liking an O's blog is really going to score us all cool points.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
At the moment it's not really used.
Heh.
We have some ideas for the upcoming season though.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
So, more Koji! love
Rosenthal has a blurb saying Koji recommended B-more to both Wada and Chen. Was this reported previously? I don’t recall any mention of Wada or Chen saying they spoke with Koji.
But, the man is an absolute saint.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
I love Koji. Thank god he's good at professional baseball, cause it would be sad if he sucked.
Getting him back would bring me more good will for DD than signing any other free agent would have.
Seriously.
Whatever we did that made him such a fan of us, despite the fact that he’s not on the team at the moment and isn’t obligated to ‘say the right things’ anymore, we need to do considerably more of.
Koji!
As a show of support
I think Koji fans all over Baltimore should grow “Koji burns” ala Flacco’s Handlebars
But, should they have Koji-burns and a Flacco-horseshoe at the same time?
(It’s a horseshoe mustache, not a handlebar.)
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
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darn - I missed some awesome pictures
by typing sideburns into mustache instead of mutton chops.
I think the fanbase should start a campaign demanding him back.
That’d be cool to see it happen and would have to make him feel like a celebrity.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
funny...
b/c i remember people mocking reporters at wada’s presser that asked if he’d spoken to koji.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 26, 2012 9:26 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
It is a ridiculous assumption to make
and just because he did doesn’t make it less ridiculous
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I dunno,
it seems a pretty reasonable thing to ask. It isn’t, “Hey, these guys are both Japanese! They must know each other!” – which is where most of the mockery came from. It’s more like, “Hm, these guys are NPB pitchers (already a small group) who signed with the same MLB team a few years apart.” I mean, if an MLB player signs with the Hiroshima Carp, isn’t it likely that he’d look up any other MLB players who played with them recently and give any he knows a call?
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
It seemed reasonable to ask once
But if I remember EME’s transcript correctly it felt like something the reporters wouldn’t let go.
That was the impression I got.
On the other hand, after talking to some of the writers about FanFest, I guess Koji really did love Baltimore. I’m not sure whether that would have been common knowledge or not.
I think they ended up talking to Koji after they decided to sign.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Serious question
what is the maximum in players you’d be willing to part with for Koji?
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Davis and Hunter back?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
is that the most you'd give up?
I don’t think the Rangers would do that
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Well, I have no idea the inner workings of GMs, salaries etc.
But I’d imagine Gregg would be nowhere near the deal. They don’t want to pay more for relief pitching when they’re trying to dump it, plus Gregg sucks.
Hmmmm…. we could toss in Pedro Viloa and some cash.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
true, we don't know what would be accepted or not
which is why I phrased it as: what is the best package of Orioles players you would send to Texas for Koji? Would you, for a bad example, send Parker Bridwell out for him? If that’s too much, then who? If that’s a yes, then would you send Bridwell and Matt Angle? And so on. How much is the absolute limit you’d give up for him?
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Would I send a guy with a 7+ ERA at Delmarva for him?
Um, yes. I would. They can have Angle as well.
Again, any package I would put together would be insanely off the top of my head and wouldn’t reflect anything accurately. I’m saying, I’d like to responsibly go after him and bring him back. Its DD’s job to put together something that would appeal enough to Texas to get them to say, alright… here he is. But with how crowded that pen is getting and how Koji already turned down one trade, and how much he is making this coming year… I really don’t think it would take gutting anything to bring him back. A couple small pieces should get it done.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Haha...
I’m not good at Bill Simmons’ trade machine either. I had no interest in participating in the 30 teams trade thing on here. Mine would be absolutely foolish.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I love Koji
and would love him back on Bmore. But honestly, I wouldn’t give up much at all. He’s a 37-year old relief pitcher who is a FA after 2012.
Pshhhht
Knowing Koji, he’d stay here for free long after if he was still useful to us.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
extend him with one of those ten year post-career service clauses like Pujols got
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I mean, I don't know if it's necessarily smart business sense
But this is one of those “throw the fans a bone” deal. Koji CRIED when he left Baltimore. Most free agents wouldn’t take a bag of gold to come here and would gouge us like gas stations post-Katrina. GMs ran from here making us a laughingstock. The fact that Koji, a foreigner no less, immersed himself in Baltimore, loved it, rooted for the Ravens, cried when he left, and seemingly would love to be back goes a long way with me.
Give up a couple junky prospects, make him the damn closer, and let him retire an O. I for one would probably get teary eyed yelling “KOOOJI, KOOOJI, KOOOOJI”, the first time he ran out of the pen in the 9th.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Koji For Ravens Kicker!
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
jiwon bang for translator!
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 26, 2012 11:16 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
interestingly and tangentially
if anyone gets the Joe Sheehan Newsletter (and you should, it’s awesome), you might have seen him make a case that most Japanese pitchers fail in MLB because of their poor control. Control, I guess is not as important in NPB as it is in MLB (and in the AL East for sure, with the NYY and BOS walk rates). Koji has been one of the success stories of the transition, and a lot of why he’s so good is his absurd control.
No idea how that will age though.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
This is odd to me
I wouldn’t find that obvious because I kind of had the impression that every Japanese pitcher that comes over isn’t very powerful but has “pin-point” control of like 5 pitches.
I would think he'd have less of an age drop-off
because he relies on control and deception and not power.
Control tends to age well
It’s that it doesn’t matter how much control you have if you throw an 85 MPH fastball with no movement.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
It ages well yes
but he’s already 37. at some point, you just lose it (unless of course, you’re Jamie Moyer).
I respect the heck out of crafty pitchers
I actually respect them more than the 100 MPH pure physical talent guys. I can’t even throw a curve ball with a wiffle ball so when i see repeated crazy movement and control it makes me awestricken.
It's a longshot, heh
I’d also consider offers that didn’t involve anyone of actual consequence – and who knows, they might put more stock in his SSS TEX numbers than the BAL ones that came before them, in which case they’d be off the hook for his salary and maybe get some C-level lottery tickets on top.
I don’t see them making that trade either – I wouldn’t in their shoes.
Yes. This a million times
I love Koji. He’s one of my favorite Orioles players of the last decade and, considering he was only here for a year and a half, really shows something.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
What we got for him + Kevin Gregg.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
So Koji is due, what...$4 mil this year, with a vesting option if he completes a reasonable amount of games, right?
2 guys. I’m not sure what the Rangers would want or need (ML capable? We have a dearth of that as it is. High upside? We got some guys we could part with.)
I recognize that Koji certainly isn’t a necessity for us. And he won’t be a part of any contending team with the O’s. And I did post a rant about needing depth in the farm system in this very thread. But, yeah, I’d part with 2 guys. Who? I haven’t the foggiest at the moment.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
If Cot's is correct,
2012 was the vesting option year. So he’s only under contract this year because he met the vesting requirements, and will be a FA at the end of the year.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
ahh, that's right.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
It's a good question...
I just don’t know what we have that Texas would want.
Texas is better than us at every position except C and perhaps CF. Texas would certainly take Jones, but our best value in trading Jones is maximizing prospects, not reacquiring Koji and getting maybe a B prospect, too.
We don’t have a single starter that would definitely crack Texas’ rotation. Guthrie would fight with Harrison for the 5th spot. Then we get to the bullpen. Why would Texas trade Koji for any person in our bullpen other than Johnson (who we should not trade for Koji)?
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately, I wouldn't give up much for Koji.
Actually, I wouldn’t give up anything but a 28 AAAer with a spotty track record. Taking on the salary would the incentive for Texas, at least that’s how I would pitch it.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I just saw that.
How can you not love Koji?!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
SB Nation users are angry
I checked out ths this piece about some red jerseys the White Sox might wear. The people commenting seemed extra angry towards the writer, Al Mellon.
I think the jerseys are lame as well.
Good. Al Yellon is a really sloppy writer.
He skimps on research and only writes well about the Cubs. He brings the level at Baseball Nation waaay down.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
There were like 120 comments on some post he made recently about the Marlins and nearly all of them were flames.
Talk about some serious haterade.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
He just dumped on them. No rationale, no explanation.
He’s crap.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
I did kind of roll my eyes when he brought in the Cubs to an unrelated general baseball article for the 500,000th time.
I was thinking, nobody cares that you hate the Marlins because they made fun of the goat, dude.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Jason Brannon is my least favorite Baseball Nation writer.
“Albert Pujols is 35 because I say he is. Now let’s have an argument over evidence vs. proof in the comments!”
Nothing so bad as the brief and lamentable turn by Carson Cistulli on Baseball Nation, though.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't really read baseball stuff online when FJM was running.
Now I have a tendency to read their posts and think about what I missed.
Yeah, that guy is actually funny.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
You can get bite-sized Ken Tremendous on Twitter, I guess.
I don’t have a Twitter but I do go to his page every now and then.
Although he's obviously not just talking about baseball on his Twitter.
And his picture is of A-Rod slapping the ball out of Bronson Arroyo’s glove.
Wait, but I actually kinda dig the jerseys
Especially if they paired them with the classic black hat.
It IS weird that the White Sox have to wear black while the Red Sox wear Red… you’d think the only real requirement would be the white, right? But yeah. Those red hats are LAME.
by Bird of Pray on Jan 26, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
As a Maryland alum...
I am a huge fan of any red and black color scheme and the scheme doesn’t really exist in MLB. The Diamondbacks have almost gotten there with their colors (Sedona red, black, Sonoran sand, white) and I really like their scheme… although their dumbass “D-backs” wreaks of moronitude.
However, the picture in that link really just shows a red and white scheme. I think that red and white needs an accent color.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Re: the Machado and Bundy BD
While it’s pretty sweet to have TWO Top-10 prospects (who could potentially each be Top-5 prospects come this time next year), it’d be nice if we had, well, even one additional Top-100 prospect. I would imagine Schoop just missed this list, but nonetheless, we ain’t gonna be climbing out of the basement of the AL East until we get some legitimate depth down on the farm.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
I'm trying not to think about having two Top-10 prospects.
Because it’ll just be that much more depressing when we ruin them…
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
It's weird,
because Mayo has Schoop as his second-best (I think, definitely top ten) 2B prospect. You’d think the second-best 2B prospect would crack the top 100 prospects overall…
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
I noticed that as well
Lotta depth at the P and OF, though
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
I was expecting Schoop to be in the top-100 as well.
I bet he makes other lists, esp. if he keeps it up this year.
Where are Machado and Schoop going to start the season: Frederick or Bowie?
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that sounds about right.
I just hope they don’t rush them along if they could use more time in Frederick.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Yeah, this is the big thing about the Orioles
It’s great to have highly ranked prospects. But highly ranked prospects fail ALL THE TIME. I don’t know the numbers, but I bet they fail as often as they succeed.
So you don’t need just highly ranked prospects. You need a LOT of prospects. Because the more fish you have in that barrel, the more likely it is your shotgun blast will hit some.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
It's True but...
We already knew how badly McPhail stocked the minors. This is no disrespect to you Holymittens (which is one of the better names I’ll add) but simply a painful reminder of the obvious. The same thing happened with Britton. It was like, Great! He made it to the majors!… Well, hope he doesn’t fail cuz we got NOTHING behind him for three levels of play.
by Bird of Pray on Jan 26, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
That's exactly what the Jays system looks like.
Ton and tons of very good to great prospects.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Given the recent discussion of the Asian propensity for smoking and gambling,
I was quite confused at first when I read this headline: Birdman plans to wager $5 million on Super Bowl
Birdman is loaded?
He should totally buy us a Camden Chat lounge to hang out in. With big TVs, a bar, and a pool table.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Yet another reason to root against the Pats (and for the Giants, of course)
This guy “once told Forbes magazine he tries to wear $1 million worth of orthodontics and jewelry every day.”? Really? Is there a sentence in the English language that’d make me want to punch someone in their gold-riddled face more than that one?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Well...
I suppose there’s always, “I’m a Yankees fan.”
That generally makes me want to punch people.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just gonan go ahead and assume he's a Yankee fan
or at least wears a Yankees hat as a “fashion accessory”
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Can we reopen Point Lookout's PoW camp for people like this?
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Another difference between the rich and poor
the poor generally try to avoid orthodontics the rich apparently revel in it.
re: contending this year
Obviously, that dude was old and high… But he makes an interesting point, right?
On paper this team is better than the one that looked so awesome when we first showaltered, or at least no worse. You know, if arrieta and matusz are actually back this year. How likely/unlikely is that, btw?
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:28 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Arrieta could be a pleasant surprise
Matusz….don’t hold your breath.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
Isn't Matusz in the best shape of his life?
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
So, are we in Camden Chatville fans of long tossing to develop pitchers?
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Roch has all the answers
the Orioles’ manager said that pitcher Brian Matusz looks to be in excellent condition.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 26, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
trapezoid!
Wait, that’s not a condition, that’s a shape.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I've been around for a couple of years now...
but I’ve never figured out what the ‘trapezoid!’ comment refers to; other than it follows the comment ‘best shape of his life’. I’ve done a search on here, with no luck. Care to enlighten as to the origins of this?
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
I think it started thusly...
Ramon Herndandez, who was roughly trapezoidal in shape, claimed to be in “the best shape of his life.”
haha
roughly trapezoidal in shape
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
hmmm
i thought it was more about people freestyling on the word ‘shape’.
Like, “he’s in the best shape of his life” became a thing on its own. And then someone once said, “triangular?” or “Square?” or similar as a response. And then someone ELSE said, “trapezoid!” because, as shapes go, it’s the funnest shape to bust out. And then that stuck.
At least, that’s my memory of it. There may have been a razor connection as well.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
you're probably right...
Because everyone says they’re in the best shape of their life…I think we just mocked ramon more than anyone else for it (that horrible picture of him and jay gibbons)
i've always been partial to the parallelogram
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Both impressive entries
saying parallelogram makes me think of jello for some reason.
Dude, i was in the best shape of MY life
and my fastball was just about as effective as Matusz. If he still hasn’t regained that 4-6 MPH that just vanished, I don’t care how fit he is. I never gave up a single home run last year. Then again… I didn’t pitch. I’m still going for a no hit career though… TAKE THAT BRIAN
by Bird of Pray on Jan 26, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
He just dropped in to see what condition his condition was in.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
AAA this man!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Uh oh...
Irrational Os hope for 2012 is beginning….
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
haha it is like those time-lapse videos of a seed sprouting
I can see a great Orioles mockumentary showing a time lapse of a fan’s hope at the end of the season and moving into spring.
Whenever I get a silly notion like this
I go and look at fangraphs stat pages for the yankees or the redsox, and realize just how significant their offensive advantage is. It’s remarkable how many great hitters they have compared to the Orioles.
I don't think it's insane to believe Arrieta is back.
There’s a specific reason to believe he can improve – the ping pong ball bone chip removed from his elbow. We knew exactly that was a problem with him and now we know that obstacle is removed.
Matusz… I mean, we still don’t know what the hell was wrong, so how are we supposed to know it’s better?
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
I 've never seen matusz in person other than at fanfest last weekend...
is it me, or does he look just as skinny as he did last year? I kind of expected him to add at least a few pounds this offseason.
I couldn't judge at all.
I have never seen players up close before other than Jones, and that was just the once.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Note from DCO'sfan:
Brian Matusz is such a cute little nerd.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
How do you know he's a nerd?
Also I find this discussion of hot guys very off putting!
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
...
Chicks dig the long fast 85 mph ball
by IggesRule13 on Jan 26, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I didn't say he was hot.
He’s cute in a baby animal way.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
by DCO'sfan on Jan 26, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I am so rec'ing this
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Brian Matusz?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
its a spitting image!
Best shape of his life!
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 26, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
I really hope that the ping pong ball bone isn't like rookie of the year
in which it turns out that it was the source of all his good pitches.
Not very likely.
Jake is very excited to be healthy.
I think he could take a step forward.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
oh, this is just setting up for disappointment right here
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Andrew, I'm not saying Cy Young territory here.
Maybe 180 IP and a 4ish ERA.
After the horror show of Orioles pitching we saw last year, that constitutes a step forward. If I can’t even peg a small goal for progress when there is a hopefully sane reason for believing why that progress could exist, then there’s no hope for this team anyway.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
So would I.
but it is just the first thing that came to mind.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 26, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
this all just sounds suspicously a lot like
“Jake Arrieta’s in the best shape of his life!”
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Well, his elbow is anyway.
Tommy John surgery in May?
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
No. He pitched into July. I think the surgery was in August
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I'm saying this year...
… when someone is “in the best shape of his life”, something bad always happens. I’m guessing he blows out his newly best-shaped elbow in May.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I guess the question is when can a guy have legitimately improved what shape he's in?
I feel like most of the time that phrase is employed it’s just some vague feeling and it’s a cliche because players always say it and will always say it, but if they were asked why they wouldn’t be able to pinpoint something.
Did you see the picture of what they took out of his elbow? I don’t think that’s “best shape of his life” cliche territory. That’s a ping-pong ball sized bone chip gone from his pitching elbow.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
I did, but I repressed it
it was gross.
From what I gleaned through the various prospectors though, a 4 ERA in 180 innings is basically Arrieta’s ceiling. To expect him to jump to it this year is a little optimistic. I do think he’s in the best position to improve, of course. I guess I expect something closer to 4.75 ERA in 150+ innings. I’d bet most folks would take that.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
If there were ever a time to use that phrase, it's now.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
This was in Jake Arrieta's elbow.
Now it’s not in his elbow any more.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you for the subject line
Gross
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
It's like something out of The Thing. ewwww. burn it.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Jake now throws 110mph...
… with a 95 mph slider that breaks 4’ and a changeup that comes in at 90mph, looks like a fastball, then drops completely vertically over the plate.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
He was probably wild some of the time and threw well at other times
Which is totally unique quality among players in the American Little League System.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
He said he couldn't get through 5 IP without discomfort, couldn't be consistent from inning to inning or game to game.
Later he was talking to Melewski about having a better handle on his release point and feeling like he is having better command. OK, will that translate to when there are real players who want to hit home runs standing in the batters box? I don’t know.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I prefer old and senile.
The two often go hand-in-hand.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
So the Orioles don't seem to have made any really dumb moves yet.
Think they’ll tarnish their record with Jackson? Do you think going after Cespedes would be silly?
Boston already offered Jackson a contract (reportedly)
I’d imagine Edwin would much prefer to go there.
i don't think going after Cespedes would be silly
unless it turns out that he’s really 29 instead of 26, which isn’t entirely unfathomable
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Who would go if we got him?
Reimold I guess.
Our 40 man is getting pretty crowded at every position, with not a lot of standout talent. I’m kind of wondering where DD is going with this as far as who’s starting in the field and where, who’s in the pen, etc.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
This would make me very sad.
Nolan Reimold has absolutely demonstrated that he deserves a 600 plate appearance season.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/reimono01.shtml
Both times he’s cracked 300 plate appearances, his OPS+ was over 110. He has very good plate discipline. With a full season, his power projects to 25-30 HR and his speed projects to 15 SB (and a good success rate).
This is why I have so little faith that the O’s will ever get anything out of Schoop. The organization has a history of have promising young players and ruining them.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
depends if you see him as a CF or not
if you do, it could be a pre-cursor to a Jonsey trade. if you think he’s a corner OF (which from what most of what i’ve read, he should be) then yeah i guess Nolan would be the odd-man out yet again.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I don't know why, but I think Reimold is gonna be the odd man out in any situation.
Really hope he gets legit playing time this year.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
I'd rather trade him than see him on the bench.
The man deserves a shot. He’s like Koji… I want what’s best for him, even if it’s not with the O’s.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
I'd vote Chris Davis off the island before Nolan Reimold
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I already placed my vote for Chris Davis.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I'd vote a lot of Orioles off the 40 before Reimold...
… Betemit, Chavez, Davis, Bell, Mahoney, Angle, Miller, Adams, Flaherty, Antonelli…
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Josh Bell is still on the 40?!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Endy Chavez is the guy I see getting Nolan's playing time.
Just like Pie last year. They’ll come up with some excuse why Endy needs to play. Oh he’s faster in left….oh he’s better at that…..
Lame stuff.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
I was more concerned about
a) the 25 man, and b) the starting 9
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Yeah, but...
… you and I both know that because of who’s on the 40, Buck is going to find a way to staple Reimold to the bench. It might be Chavez in LF. It might be Davis at DH. But it’s going to happen.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I have hope that maybe Nolan got a hold of
the compromising pictures Vlad had
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I was under the impression that most sources
had Cespedes as needing a year of refinement anyhow. If we have a year it should be an easier decision to make.
Yeah, but the numbers for Cespedes...
… indicate that we’d be paying $8 – $10 for that year of refinement. That’s some damn expensive refinement.
International free agency is such a fucking crock.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
i'd vote off zach phillips or matt angle before davis.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
We have to have some shitty outfielders to get rid of
I’d rather get rid of whatever that one guy we signed was. I can’t remember his name, but he’s old and sucks.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
You're going to have to be more specific...
… your criteria includes every FA signing for 15 years.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Johnny Damon is still a FA, too.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
anyone up for fantasy baseball?
I am starting a new keeper league. It will be a straight jacket league (dl, but no bench). Trying to get a good mix of Os fans. It will be more of a modern stat format and will be housed at ESPN, my home site.
If interested email me camdendepot@gmail.com
Looking to get a mix of 15 to 20 teams.
by crawdaddy on Jan 26, 2012 9:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Straight jacket?
I get enough of that at work. >.<
I’ll think about it. My current keeper league eats up pretty much all of my fantasy baseball time, but we’ll see.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
BTW
Miguel Cabrera said he’s going to 3B full time last night.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
That's not gonna be the best corner defense in the league, that's for sure.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
Negative.
They combined for what….70 HRs last season? (Granted Fielder hit against NL pitching). Nobody will top that unless Pujols goes insane in Anaheim and whoever they’ve got playing 3B (Trumbo?) hits a handful.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
68, i actually thought it would be more
You’re right about Fielder’s switch to the AL, but I don’t think 80+ is out of the question
There is also the issue of the parks that Prince will be playing in now
Det, KC, Cle, Min, & Chi
vs.
Mil, Hou, StL, Wrigley, Pit, Cin
Those NL parks, at first glance anyway, look a lot more HR friendly than the AL ones.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Cabrera is moving to a more demanding position too...don't know how that'll affect him.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sure he'll put just as much effort into improving his defense at 3rd as he did improving his defense throughout his career
in other words, focus entirely on mashing the ball
Haha...I'm sure, but that's not what I meant.
I meant, it’ll take a greater physical toll.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Minus that extra comma....
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
It's gotta be a bitch playing 3B hungover
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Again, only if he tries
Disinterestedly standing near 3rd is just as strenuous as disinterestedly near 1st
He needs sunflower seeds.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
by Zeke McGeek on Jan 26, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Delmon Young probably
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
They don't really have anyone else.
Brandon Inge can’t hit…so who else plays 3B?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Although damn....if they had VMart this year too....that'd be a nice lineup.
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by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Me either.
I think they’ve got Cabrera playing third just so they can get their best hitters in the lineup. Brandon Inge is not one of their best hitters.
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by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
He's certainly in the mix...
I would assume that Boesch, Jackson, and Raburn are their OF. Young’s gotta go somewhere.
Personally, if I’m the Tigers, I’d put Raburn at 2B, get Young into the OF, Inge at 3B, and alternate Fielder and Cabrera at 1B.
Also, if Prince hates his father so much, why would he sign for a such a huge contract in the city his father played in during his best years? He’s gotta know that’s just going to invite some awkwardness…
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
But again...
… I have a crappy relationship with my dad.
Let’s say he played for the Pirates for several years. The O’s offer me 8 / $200 and the Pirates offer me 9 / $220. Is the extra $20 million worth dealing with the inevitable comparisons, constant discussion, and possible requests by the organization to reconcile?
Prince could have signed with the Nationals, been very rich, been on a team that’s more likely to contend for longer (because the Nats are younger than the Tigers), and avoided all of the possible crap that’ll come from playing on his dad’s team.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
It's really hard to say I guess.
I tend to believe that $20 million would be enough to deal with the occasional “HEY YOUR DAD PLAYED HERE, BUT YOU HATE HIM AMIRITE?” That stuff is going to die down pretty quickly, probably.
But $20 million on top of $200?
Sorry, I’ll stop the rehash of the “when is enough enough” debate.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
You keep forgetting that Inge OPSs like .500
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by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Needs more details.
Auction or snake draft?
How many keepers?
What stats?
How much $ will it cost/yr.?
I’m thinking of playing Fangraphs ottoneu. Maybe we set up something similar.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Snake, 50% roster keeper with option to do less, basic stats with expected runs values as multipliers, and it would be free.
Unless Nick decides differently, no prizes. I might try to get something from a sponsor, no promises.
Looking for active participants.
by crawdaddy on Jan 26, 2012 11:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jarring song changes.
So, the radio just went back-to-back with “Fat Bottomed Girls” by Queen and “Let It Be” by The Beatles. Two great songs, but back-to-back’s kind of weird.
One day I’m in Guangzhou and I’m walking down the street listening to music. I had a pretty eclectic range of music on my mp3 player at the time. So, first there’s some Evanescence. Then, all of a sudden, “It’s my party and I’ll cry if I want to / Cry if I want to / Cry if I want to” comes on (Leslie Gore version). That’s a shocking change.
Going "back-to-back"
with fat-bottomed girls would seem to miss the point…
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
i get what the dj was doing there
at night, the fat-bottomed girls “make the rockin’ world go ’round”. but the following morning, you have to “let it be”.
‘cause doin’ that stuff wears you out, yo.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
My iPod often goes directly from They Might Be Giants to Rammstein
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
that's my favorite thing about shuffle
I love hearing like, Tori Amos and then R. Kelly. It cracks me up.
Mine goes from
Louis Armstrong to Pantera to Duran Duran to Rodrigo y Gabriela
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
If I ever used shuffle, mine would go something along the lines of:
Sepultura to Grieg to Wayne Hancock to Primus to Miles Davis to Bill Hicks
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
DCers
I need leads on artisinal coffee. I’m invading your zip code for the next 72 hours, and want to get to as many places as I can.
I’m heading to Chinatown Coffee this morning, and I’ve read that Peregrine Espresso is not to be missed. I’m staying just east of the white house near pershing park and I have wheels if necessary. I definitely expect to get up to Adams Morgan.
Any recs on coffee would be welcome, and by “coffee” I mean espresso, pulled by a barista without using a push-button machine. Stumptown, Republic, Intelligentsia, Blue Bottle, that kinda thing. Thanks!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I'll try to remember to answer this tonight.
My wife buys artisinal coffee for me at a little shop in Bethesda, but I don’t know the name off-hand.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
thanks, but....
probably not going to get all the way to bethesda. i mean, i’ll travel a bit, but i’d like to stay comfortably within the confines of the beltway.
then again, maybe the coffee revolution hasn’t hit downtown yet.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
but not comfortably.
i actually have stuff to do, i’m just hoping to hit coffee places while i’m doing them. so staying mostly inside that square shape there.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Ah... yeah, that square thing is the District of Columbia.
(Prior rapport for playful ribbing…)
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
and arlington....
without that it’s not a square.
respect
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Always wondered where the "Columbia" came from
The federal district was named Columbia, which was a poetic name for the United States in use at that time.
Now I know.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 26, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
never really thought about it
right. selfish bastard.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 26, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
better than Amerigo Vespucci
who named the whole continent(s) after himself because he was the guy making the maps.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Well, that AND the fact that nobody wanted to call it Columbia
Because everyone knew Columbus was a crazy person.
But but but...he discovered the world wasn't flat!
Pretty much everything he gets credit for someone else did better and first.
This is BS.
It was well known that the world wasn’t flat.
Pythagoras hypothesized (sp?) that the world was round but couldn’t prove it.
It was proved in 240 BC.
I just had this discussion last week with my brother.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Well, the coffee shop I was talking about is within easy walking distance of the Bethesda Metro stop.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
To be fair,
The DC metro system is even more of a bitch. So poorly designed. I envy the New York subway.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
There is nothing enviable about New York or Washington's public transportation.
Seoul, on the other hand, is absolutely brilliant.
Guangzhou is doing very well, too. I got there when they had just finished constructing the second line and I left when they had opened half of the third line. Even then, those 2 1/2 lines did better in a city of 8,000,000 than Washington’s Metro does in a much smaller city. Now, Guangzhou has expanded to seven lines and is building more.
It’s not even the layout. Guangzhou and Seoul both run on time with few to no delays. Their trains are clean. The riders are more polite. The stations are kept in good order.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
That's wrong, I'm sorry.
Think about it like this: taking backroads during rush hour, I can get from Rockville to Silver Spring in 20-25 minutes. In rush hour on the metro, I have to go through downtown DC… and it usually takes at least 50 minutes, sometimes over an hour to get from the White Flint metro station to the Silver Spring metro station.
New York has trains going to every part of the city and the system is much more intelligent. Taking the metro is supposed to save the environment? Not if my commute is fucking ridiculous compared with a car.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
I have ridden the New York subway only a few times...
… but generally I found it crowded, dirty, and generally an unpleasant experience. It is more on-time than the DC Metro, but that’s like saying the Royals are a better team than the Orioles. Neither are exactly in World Series territory.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
It be crowded and dirty, but it's probably the most efficient and best way to get around the city other than walking.
DC can’t say the same about their subway system.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
That really depends.
Inside the actual city, in many cases, it is the quickest way. Suburb to suburb transit is another story.
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by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
There's a lot going on here.
First off the NYC Subway was built about 100 years ago, and the Metro was built in the 70’s. I think it was a lot easier for them to just run lines every which way in the 1900s. By the time the DC Metro was built, you’ve got massive suburban sprawl, private land ownership, etc that is getting in the way of just throwing train lines everywhere. Plus inflation probably makes it way harder to get a massive project like that competed in modern days, as opposed to the 1800s-early 1900s where there was probably much less organized opposition and red tape.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
I fully acknowledge this.
For the time it was built in, the New York subway is a success, but I also think that after a century, it’s probably time to consider an overhaul and the challenges of what that would entail are daunting.
I also fully admit that I am completely and utterly biased. I am not a fan of cities, but I particularly despise New York.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yea this.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Politics get in the way too.
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by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's cute when DC'ers and NY'ers complain about their metro systems
have these people even seen the baltimore system?
I honestly didn't even know they had one.
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by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
We don't
There’s an elevated line that runs through the Wire territory and is useless. I don’t know a single person that has even stepped foot on that. Then there’s the light rail which is a single line that runs from the NW into the city.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
There's an underground line
I’ve been on it. Once I locked my keys in my house. My roommate worked at the Wabash Ave courthouse at the time so I walked up to Lexington Market, took the subway up to some stop near Reisterstown Road and walked the rest of the way, where I got propositioned by a junkie. Good times.
That's the raised line i was talking about
I work right by there.
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
yeah it's above ground outside the beltway
and somewhere just south of the 795 interchange it goes underground.
It's on an elevated rail from at least Wabash Ave. well into downtown West Baltimore
Which is inside the Beltway. Maybe it goes under at 795 and comes back up around Northern Pkwy? I dunno.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
/raises hand
during high school, we used to drive to the metro station in Owings Mills and take it to Lexington Market to come downtown for baseball games. i’ve also taken it from Owings Mills to the Charles Town Center to come downtown for a job interview.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
used it once...
had a friend that lived in lochearn… we went out in fells one night and he smashed his car into a lightpole (yup… he was drunk), so we had to ride the metro back to his house the next morning.
pfft
I’ve used it plenty of times. I took it to go down to the Baltimore Grand Prix, actually. My friend’s mother commutes to and from Hopkins Hospital every day on it. Lots of people use it from Owings Mills to get to the city. It’s fine. There is absolutely no reason to be scared of it, even if it does go through “Wire” territory.
I used to ride it every day
If you’re going to and from one of the handful of places it goes to, it’s actually pretty nice. You can get from the harbor up to northern Mt. Vernon pretty easily, or from the harbor over to Hopkins, or over to Mondawmin mall (there’s actually a DMV there that a lot of people don’t know about).
If you’re not going to those handful of places, yeah – not very useful.
If you lived near Owings Mills you might have ridden it more.
Owings Mills to Charles Street was the way my dad and I got to OPACY when I was a younger lad.
These days however, I think more of the flow of traffic is people from in the city coming out to Owings Mills Mall. Consequently all the white people stopped going to that mall over the last decade, and now it’s basically busted and they’re going to try to turn it into Hunt Valley Town Center.
Ah, Baltimore.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I'm very dubious of all claims
that Baltimore’s rail lines are “loot rails.” Owings Mills Mall does have a really checkered past, which is unfortunate, but I am very skeptical that the metro had anything to do with it.
Excellent segue...
I’ve read while research the Red Line that a lot of people blame the urban blight on Howard St. downtown on the light rail, and cite this as a reason to oppose the Red Line Apparently Howard St. was nice back in the day and the Light Rail construction was quick and sloppy, and it ruined the community.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
I always assumed Howard Street blight pre-dated the light rail.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
This opens a whole new can of worms
I’m not a Baltimore historian, but I’m pretty sure most of the city was livable up until the 60s or 70s. That’s when “white flight” to the suburbs started. Opponents to the Red Line blame the Light Rail on blighting that neighborhood in particular, but this is also around the same time that the American drug culture took over.
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I certainly might be wrong.
But every time I ride in on the light rail, when you’re on Howard between, I don’t know, Cultural Center and Baltimore Street, I just always get the feeling that this place’s better days were gone long before 1990 rolled around.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I'm with you on that
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
They probably were
I haven’t taken any planning classes in years so I’m fuzzy on the details, but there was a failure by the city to provide any sort of incentives etc for the area to be developed.
Agreed.
People are making similar claims to try to stop the red line from going east into the fells/canton area. I guess if you’ve never given the public transpo a shot and have no intention to, it’s in your interest to fight it, but it definitely makes me roll my eyes a bit.
I own property two blocks off of the Red Line's projected path
I am very nervous/excited about the project. Will it ruin my neighborhood and my property value, or will it make my property value skyrocket?
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
I can see why you would be
It’s hard to tell, because the gentrified area target demographic is very split on that. I know people who would find being able to quickly duck over to the city for work every day from there a giant plus, and people who are going to drive anyway no matter what considering it a minus.
Step in the right direction, if you ask me.
Mass transit is the future, one way or another.
Sooner Baltimore gets on board, the better the area will be.
Certain demographic dynamics over the past 40 years make the first steps a challenge, however.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
MONORAIL!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
is there a chance the tracks could bend?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 26, 2012 1:57 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah I agree
I don’t see how it could be bad for the neighborhood. I think property and rental values will increase and bring better neighbors into the community. Combined with the proposed shopping center on Boston/Haven St., and the condos that are opening up in the old Natty Boh Brewery, I’m excited at the prospect of property values potentially skyrocketing.
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Wow....somewhere in Baltimore that I actually recognize.
Other than the stadium area.
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by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
That's the perception they are fighting, anyway.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
wow, that a ridiculous comment
The NYC subway is one of the most enviable in the world, in that in a city of 8 million people, you can truly live without a car and not suffer one whit for it. The subway runs 24/7, one of the only systems to do so in this country (the other is in Chicago). It has progressive pricing, and was one of the first subways to introduce it. Over 1 billion people ride the subway each year.
Yeah, it’s dirty, blah blah, blah. So is New York. Part of the reason they can’t properly renovate the subway is because it’s been in constant service since the early 1900s. Many subways around the world (such as Seoul’s) were built in the latter half of the 20th century, and were thus constructed with far better technology and architecture than existed in the late 1800s when the NYC subway was begun. Most of these systems used NY as an guide for their inception.
And please, please do not lump NYC’s subway in with Washington’s metro which is essentially a commuter train (although not a bad one).
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
easy for them when they can copy us.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
And when the Chinese government can displace people and buildings at will to get a project done
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Or steal the technology!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
No, no, not at all.
For example, the public smoking there is awful. Seeing a 60 year old woman deucing on the street is awful.
The buses range from top-of-the-line to awful (one I could look through the floor to the road).
I greatly prefer my living accommodations here in the States.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Do 60 y.o. women regularly deuce on the street in Asia?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I wouldn't say regularly.
I saw it happen twice in three years, which is frankly two more times than I needed to.
However, you will regularly see little kids doing so, which is also frankly more than I needed.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
The few recent times I was in NYC,
I loved the subway. I could get anywhere I wanted to go (if given enough time), and if I was unsure how to get somewhere, lots of people were willing to provide helpful advice. I had a pre-conceived mental image of a stinking, scary mess populated by bums and criminals, and it was nothing like that. I want to live somewhere with public transportation like NYC … but warmer.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
Ha ha we were just talking about that at lunch today.
There are occasional tours down there, but I’m not sure I’d want to go. I think they’re in the process of filling the whole thing in.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
oh, really?
That’ll crush the hopes of all the bored college kids every single fall.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
It looks like they've started
In the fall of 2009 the City was granted funding under the stimulus package. On Monday, February 8, 2010, Broad Street was closed between Allen and West Main to fill in the West Tunnel and repair the road’s surface. The city moved forward with the west section fill of the subway tunnel (near Nick Tahou’s) and the West Tunnel no longer exist and have been “filled in”.
That quote is from this Wiki
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
I don't think it's poorly designed.
Just poorly managed.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
There's certainly room for improvement in the layout, but you're right that the design isn't where the majority of the problems arise.
Ideally, the yellow and green lines and the blue and orange lines would overlap less and provide more coverage of the District. Ideally, the purple line would actually get built and provide a “Metro Beltway”.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Well, that's another story.
Originally, they planned for the Blue line to go through G’Town and such, but the residents there freaked out and the line was re-routed.
Also, the purple line is in no way associated with Metro and is also a waste.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Quartermaine?
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by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
I can't help you on coffee
I just started myself, brewed a single cup last weekend in ye olde french press.
I can however point you to my favorite lunch/brunch spot in the city, which is Teaism in Dupont or by the Naval Memorial.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I go to Peregrine at least once a week.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
go on......
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Jan 26, 2012 11:26 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
It's good?
They do art with the foam on top of your mocha?
Dunno what to say really, but it is pretty good stuff. Plus you can get all sorts of other assorted goodies at the eastern market around the corner. Plus, Cava is nearby. Solid Greek food.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Oh...they use an espresso machine though. It has buttons.
I dunno exactly what you mean by not using a push button machine.
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by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
like at starbucks....
where they basically have the machine make the coffee for you. it’s fine to have a push button that you toggle on for water and then off to stop the water. but a machine where you push a button and it does a pre-timed thing shutting off on its own gets out of whack pretty quickly.
i was curious if you know whose beans pereine uses, but they’ve come up enough that i trust they’re pretty good. chinatown this morning was great.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Dunno where they come from...their coffee is good though.
They all use that pre-timed thing though. They just put the ground coffee in the mechanism and the machine does the rest.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
not all coffee shops use pre-timed.
in many, the barista controls how long the water is on.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
ZK my good liberal brother
get involved down below!
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I don't think they'll need any backup...
I gotta get to bed. Getting up at 6 after being off all week with pneumonia.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I could block you.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
That I was reimbursed for saving them millions.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
just got online. it's late for me tonight,
and the wife is trying to sleep in our hotel room. not likely. :(
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
See, he even KNOWS we're right!!!!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
i haven't even figured out where on the page you're arguing
I have like 700 unread comments.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Hahahahhaaa.... by the time you get there ITLL BE TOO LATE!!!
WE’LL ALL BE GONE!!! BAHAHAHAHAA!!!
AND I’M NOT CHECKING BACK IN THE MORNING!!!!! SO ALL YOUR COMMENTS WILL GO UNREAD….. FOREEEEEEEVER!!!!!
BAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
mostly below
But sort of everywhere. You might to print this thread out.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
I can't remember if anyone brought this up yesterday
but the last thing the Ravens needed right now was to lose Chuck Pagano
Worst week for home team sports ever
Cundiff, Flip fire, MD loses to Duke on GW night, lose Pagano… probably keeping Cam.
Fuck me running. Next thing you know, we sign Edwin Jackson to a monster deal.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
They were never going to win that game last night
They fed off the crowd early, but that intensity was never sustainable for the the whole game. Once everything started slow down and they were only up 4 or 5, it was game over. They needed to be up at least double digits to hang on once Duke settled down.
For a decade...
… Maryland’s been capable of playing 35 minutes with every team in the country. But every game, no matter how well it’s going, is going to have a patented Maryland drought.
Even then, if Stoglin hits his FTs at his normal rate (78%) and Plumlee hits his as his normal rate (44%), Maryland wins (or is at least within two possessions). Instead, they were reversed.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
Plumlee had his way with us inside
I was furious they let him get where he wanted time after time. You gotta muscle his ass out of the paint and make sure he doesn’t get that baby hook about 8 feet out dead on in front of the hoop. I keep replaying all these dinks in a loop. There were a bunch of em.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Our 7' players weigh less than our cheerleaders, though.
No muscle.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
He scared the entire game, and made some horrible decisions.
Our D is just terrible and has been all season. How many times did they go back door for an uncontested dunk last night? Actually if you include alley oop’s, that’s the most dunks I’ve seen from one team in one game in a long time. You can’t give Duke 10-20 free points.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Len was also playing hurt, I'm sure that made him even more tentative
I think he’s gonna be a great player in a year or two, but theres no question he’s a work in progess
If he ever realized his potential we'd lose him to the draft
I was frustrated as hell last night, but I’m actually excited about the prospect of Len and Faust working out the kinks this year and hopefully being better next year, when we actually have a chance to contend
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Some people have talked about him as a lottery pick in a couple years
which I think is overly optimistic, but the potential is there
is it really the end of days to lost Pagano though?
i mean, how many defensive coordinators have we gone through before and not seen a massive drop-off?
Marvin Lewis
Mike Nolan
Rex Ryan
we always just plug in someone internally and keep on chugging along. i’m really not worried about this, other than the fact that Pagano had 3 very attractive daughters…. ON NO WAIT I’M NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT THIS
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Exactly
Huge part of why we were a wild card team two years ago was Mattison
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
i was just talking about guys that left for head coaching jobs
plus i try and act like the 2010 Mattison defense never happened
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Raven's D interview
Question: “What is your defensive philosphy?”
Mattison: “Blitz with one guy and play conservative predictable defense with little to no agression”
Every successful Ravens d coordinator: “Utilize the skills of our personell to mix it up, and constantly hit them as hard as possible”
meh
the Ravens have a proud history of having their DC poached, and then continuing to do just fine with the next guy. It’s the system they have, not any one specific coach, that makes them great.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Its certainly not the end of the world
but its one more thing they have to deal with now, after Pagano had the defense pointed in the right direction again
Well, there are two lines of DCs in Baltimore
One is Pagaon, the other is Mathis.
We don’t need another Mathis, we really need someone who’s gonna bring the pain and pressure the opposing QBs.
I haven’t heard much chatter but I’d love to bring back Jack Del Rio if he doesn’t have anything going on.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Bleh.... yeah
The guy that bailed for Michigan… which I was happy with.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Vinny & Kenny on 105.7 had already floated the JDR idea as of last week
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
pretty sure you mean Mattison
and hell no to Del Rio. i’d much rather promote Pees to the position
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Nononononononononononononononononononono
From the Sun article:
Jackson is the prize here. And the Orioles would love to have him. In fact, I’ve been told the club would consider a four-year deal for Jackson (something the Orioles and/or EVP Dan Duquette wouldn’t usually do for free agent pitchers) given the fact he is only 28. So, yes, they have interest in Jackson.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
Jackson is the prize for what, exactly? The booby prize for picking the wrong door, most likely.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Greg Schiano to coach the Buccaneers?
holy shit that came out of nowhere
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I couldn't even get anything else out
This is crushing. RU finally looked like they had the makings of a real team. One that could make a BCS bowl. Now the man that made RU even a little bit relevant is leaving? I always knew it would happen, but I’m not ready.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
And why go to a shitty NFL team with owners that are like a cross between Angelos and Wilpon?
Dude had a job for life, but now will be looking for something new in 2 years when he gets fired.
And now all of our recruits are bailing. It a tough day to be a Scarlet Knight.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
They're shitty owners?
I always thought the Tampa Bay owners were considered one of the better ones in football.
Eh, They're definitely more profit-driven than some owners
and with the purchase of Manchester United, are leveraged to the hilt. But they do a decent job running the team.
Ever since they bought Man U there has been rumors around town that
they are funneling cash from the football club to the other football club. And they went el cheapo on the roster and the coaching staff. There hasn’t been a home game on tv in 2 years and they have raised prices each year. They used to buy up the last 1-2k to avoid blackouts and give them to youth squads from poor areas, but have stopped pretty much all local charitable giving. People around here are pissed at the Glazers.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
Guess he likes a project
hell, i’d say he rejuvinated RU, but Rutgers was never juvinated to begin with. But that team in that division… You have the Saints who are a beast and may be getting better, the Falcons that are very talented, and the Cam Newtons. TB is last in talent in that division right now. Sure, he has the opportunity to look like a savior, but it’s much more likely to fail.
And his strength, at least in my eyes, has always been more recruiting and discipline than X’s and O’s. He’s never been a great in-game manager IMO, but RU gets NFL talent yearly now and maintains one of the best academic track records for their players of any school in the country. I don’t know if he translates well to the NFL at all.
Still, I can’t help but root for the guy.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I wish him well and all, but I just don't see
this working out. For us or him.
I thought when he spurned Miami and Michigan that he would be a lifer. I’m a little grouchy today, and this coming off a loss to DePaul last night that already had me in a bad sports mood.
At least I have the baseball season to look forward to… Oh, wait.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
by tflach2 on Jan 26, 2012 7:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't kow how these "presales" work on Ticketmaster
But it’s always super shady. No new news here.
AI tried to get RHCP/Sleigh Bells tickets when they went on sale at 10, and the only ones available are upper deck and they seem to be at the top of the price range listed on Ticketmaster. Maybe these presales are a scam in and of themselves, and you end up spending more money.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 10:54 AM EST reply actions
I am always paranoid it is like the cruise ship principle.
If I book super early I am paying out the nose but wait a little and the prices take a dive.
haha if only I had been on the ship that sank
30% off my next cruise! WOOT!
Cuban prospect Yasiel Puig is stronger than Cespedes!
Yasiel Puig Valdés is a strong athletic outfielder from Cienfuegos, Cuba.
Yasiel Puig, 21y/o,6-foot-1,210 pounds, is a five tool prospect, that can play all three of the outfield positions. He is a power hitter, with above average defensive tools and a very strong arm. Puig had a tremendous 2010-2011 season, hitting for .330AVG with 17HRs and drove in 47 runs in 327 AB with .581 SLG during the Serie Nacional 50 in Cuba, deserving a selection in the National team of Cuba at a very young age.
He also played at the IBAF Junior World Championship 2008 in Canada, deserving a selection in the IBAF Junior Allstar as outfielder. Last year at the World Port Tournament(WPT) in Rotterdam, Holland, Yasiel Puig and RHP Yadier Pedroso were the most important players of the Cuban national team.
During this tournament a Cuban pitching prospect, LHP Gerardo Concepción, took the chance to abandoned the Cuban team. So, Puig being a decisive force, had no opportunity to defect from the Cuban team. Puig tried to leave Cuba at the end of the year, but was caught by the Cuban authorities. Currently, Yasiel Puig is not playing with the Cienfuegos team.
ugg so it will be another 8 years before he leaves
and at 29 the baseball world will be falling on themselves to give him a huge contract prior to finding out how he competes with MLB talent.
But does he get on base?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
He 6 foot, 1,210 pounds?!
How is he still alive?
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
And here I thought I was packing on the pounds since I started working.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Ugh...anybody else ever run into that situation where you're working on something and then figure out the problem is WAY more complicated than you orginally thought?
…and don’t really have the proper information needed to successfully attack this massive, far more complicated problem. Should have known it wasn’t as easy as I originally thought.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I tend to spend a ton of time working on a complicated issue...
… only to find out that it was infinitely simpler than I realized and I’d just wasted a ton of time.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
all the time
especially when the original answer I was looking for comes from a fairly simple equation, only to find out the other terms are the result of ridiculously long equations that involve 500 different things.
That's pretty much it.
The end product is fairly simple, but getting there is the result of an analysis on hundreds of system diagrams etc. Boooooo.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
yep...
i need interns. my manager won’t hire interns. he also wont hire anybody that doesn’t have a masters. I disagree with the interns but it does make life easier with the whole masters thing. just call me lazy. I don’t have time to educate you on shit you should have learned in undergrad becuase you were too busy chasing the tail around.
Pretty much describes my current project
Not always a bad thing for me though as billable hours are a good thing.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Oh of course.
It’s just one of those “well…this is going to take way longer than I planned and/or wanted it to” sorta things.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
So my roommate left his W2 laying on top of our printer this morning
I happened to glance at it and see he made $100,000 last year.
I don’t know how to process this information.
I'm not sure how to embezzle from someone when I have no access to their funds.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
1. Loosen the pipes under the kitchen sink so that they leak.
2. Tell your roommate that the plumber will cost $100 and you’ll stay home to take care of letting the plumber in and such.
3. Collect your roommate’s $50 share.
4. Tighten the pipes back up yourself.
5. Repeat.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
That's almost brilliant
Except that our landlord would cover such things.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Also...
Kevin Gregg made $4.2 million last year for sucking at his job far worse than any of us. If any of us sucked as badly at our jobs as Gregg does at his, we’d be fired and get no more money. Yet, if he were to be “fired”, he’d still make more than I will in a lifetime.
The world sucks.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
I'd probably do that even if the guy was earning 30k a year.
I like beer.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
easy
can you do what he does? if so. do it better and leave your $150K a year W2 laying on the printer.
He works for Homeland Security
I mean, I guess I could. I’d just need to get a job with them.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
he is making 6 figures at homeland security?
That is close to SES business. You have a pretty well situated roommate.
Yeah
And he’s only been there like 5 years.
Like I said, a good amount of it is compensation for his travel. I’d guess at least 20k is probably the government reimbursing him for travel costs.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
oooh ok I missed that part
yeah that makes sense. If he travels a ton, per diem can get ridiculous.
He's usually away 1 week out of every month
To places like Brussels.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'd imagine he gets his base location transit reimbursed too.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
How did he make six figures
and still have a roommate?
I’d probably buy a goddamned house.
Robert Andino, let me buy you a beer.
I have two frineds that easily make $150 a year
and rented together. Although their apartment was in old city and was equipped with Viking appliances.
It's just weird to me
because I’ve never made more than about 7K in a year. I’ve worked mostly shit jobs and lived in really cheap apartments though.
Robert Andino, let me buy you a beer.
I basically have to trick myself to not care what my friends make
a good chunk of them work on wall st. and I get nauseous if I think about what they’re taking home each year.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
hahaha I saw the mistake and still sent it
This is what happens when you live outside the US for long periods of time.
@sibsinExile
This is why when I was living outside of the United States, I was an English teacher.
Now when I forget English, I can say, “I was an English teacher, I’m legally allowed to make shit up!”
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Yea everyone speaks with such bad grammar here
and I hate being that guy constantly correcting everyone all the time. But slowly by English has become a little worse too. It’s weird.
@sibsinExile
Striked is a cromulent usage
It’s just uncommon.
Also, “slowly by English”.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
I have no idea
Some of it is just reimbursement for travel expenses. I guess he just wants to save money instead of shelling out for a new house.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Which is perfectly valid.
If he wants to buy a nice car or save up so that when he buys a place, he can fully deck it out. Maybe he’s funding his mistress in Idaho.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
He does have a nice car
A 2009 Mustang with all the perks.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Out of all the places in the world, you picked Idaho.
Not Aruba or Paris or some exotic place. No, you picked Idaho.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
If I had a mistress, I'd probably want her to be in Idaho or North Dakota or something.
I mean….half of America doesn’t even know those states exist. Where better to hide somebody from your significant other? Disclaimer: I do not encourage or take part in cheating on significant others.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Guys we need to be careful
We may be flagged by the topic police with “sensitive” subjects like this
@sibsinExile
I did not make that much this year.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
I made about 1/5th of that last year
It makes me more annoyed that he split the insurance claim for when the house got robbed instead of realizing I am basically getting and throwing me a bone.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
As a side note...I just got my W2 last week.
I guess I gotta do my taxes…..I’m just really lazyyyyyyy.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Well, when we first started living together
He was making less.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
For the first 4-5 years out of college
I had 3 buddies that lived together in decent but not extravagant NYC apartments while all of them were making 150-200k+. They had a blast.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
depends on what he does
if he’s a burger flipper at five guys, i’d be pissed. lawyer or hedge fund manager, not so much.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I'm pissed that hedge fund managers make what they do...
They get rich basically fucking around with the economy and more often than not, teachers, bus drivers, and burger flippers pay for their mistakes.
Lawyers, for their crappy reputation, do at least do legitimate work in my opinion (ambulance chasers aside).
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
I assume you meant can't
but if so that’s not really true – much of the financial industry has made tons of money throughout history actually providing services/products people wanted and made money off of themselves. There have always been morally ambiguous players, but throughout much of the 1900s they were a rather small minority and that’s no longer the case. Legislation written by banking lobbyists worked wonders.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I could never wrap my head around the insider trading laws
it is like this razor thin margin that determines if it is insider trading. Every single company has their tip sheets and are trying to get information earlier than everyone else just like a reporter trying to get a scoop and none profit if they aren’t ahead of the pack they just get arrested if they get too far ahead.
That's where your argument fails short
services/products is the legit side of the financial industry, of course, but most banks and financial companies use their legit services to become highly leveraged with their customers money and use it in high risk investments.
While this “legislation” might work towards helping keep our economy stable Wall Street, big business, and corrupt government officals have shown for 80 years they can’t be trusted.
Huh? How does that make my argument fall short?
What you’re describing is a direct result of the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act which is a very recent development.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
The shit that went down in the 80s and 90s people went to jail for
I assume you’re primarily talking about junk bonds although you might be talking about LTCM too which wasn’t anything fraudulent or illegal just people thinking they were smarter than the system.
What’s happened since the repeal is a systemic shift to much more morally ambiguous activities that threatened and continue to threaten the entire economy. Bubbles and random instances of fraud have and always will happen occasionally, but the industry was never what it’s like today until that repeal.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yes, all of this.
great description.
“smarter than the system” methods should be illegal. it threatens the lives of the entire world.
Fully dependent on the situation.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
If you're wearing a tux or something.
We’ve got folks in our PMO that wear French cuffs every day because they like showing their status. I personally think it’s overkill.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
The majority of the time, I wear button cuffs.
However, the only plain white shirt that I own has French cuffs (my wife bought it for me). So, typically once per week, I’ll wear French cuffs. I do have subdued cuff links, so I’m not trying to be flashy or anything.
However, I actually kind of like them. Maybe I’ve been watching too many episodes of Mad Men recently. I also have a friend who has all of his business shirts custom made (for a variety of reasons). He almost always has them made with French cuffs, but he manages to pull off the look without appearing pretentious.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
We do Mad Men Mondays here.
People with three-piece suits and French cuffs can wear all of that stuff without fear of ridicule.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
All of my suits are three-piece suits.
I just prefer the look. I don’t like wearing my jacket, so I usually take that off pretty quickly, but I like that the vest still makes it look like a suit.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I like that show.
I also like that it comes on right after Person of Interest.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
the mentalist!
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 26, 2012 12:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Main character in "The Mentalist"
He always wears suits with vests, normally without the jacket.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 26, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
this...
french cuffs, while sharp, i find to be a hassle.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 26, 2012 11:48 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I always lose my cuff links. So I will say button.
But it really does depend.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 26, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Nats sign Lidge, lol
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:53 AM EST reply actions
That dude is so hit or miss after Fat Albert hit that ball that still hasn't come down yet off him.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Fact: Strop pitched more innings than Lidge last year
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
fact...
STROP!
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 26, 2012 12:02 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
He won't be closing for them, so it might actually turn out okay.
If he is pitching well, they can deal him off to some other team that wants set-up help.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
He's not a bad relief pitcher, it'd depend on the salary
he’s just not back-of-the-bullpen material anymore
1 mil + incentives.
The Nationals already have Clippard and Storen, so Lidge is really just extra help there.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
If Henry Rodriguez learns how to pitch instead of throwing, they could have a decent 7,8,9.
The problem is, I’m not convinced Rodriguez knows how to do anything beyond throw as hard as he can.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
He probably has a better chance than Henry Rowengartner does.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
I've always maintained this.
Although you have to ignore the Phillies WS championship.
That home run was freaking legendary though. I’ve never seen another one like it in my life.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I'll never forget it
I was watching it at my mother in laws house and was just like zOMG!!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Look at Lidge's mouth there.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
I think that was everyone's mouth that saw it.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
True, but Lidge just makes that picture funny.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
He looks scarred
like he bet on the ’stros and know knows the bookie will be coming after him.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 26, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Pujols looks so bad ass in this picture.
He just looks like fucking Thor holding the bat.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
He always looks like that.
Say what you want about Albert but he’s an undeniable BAMF.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Guess I need to change my diet.
Apparently McNuggets are bad
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Don't you run religiously every day?
I feel like that balances out a bad diet. But I’m not a doctor, so don’t take my word for it. Obviously.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
4-6 times a week.
But still….all that salt. And fat. Disclaimer: I rarely eat at McDonalds and haven’t consumed a McNugget since middle school.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Did you read the article?
She eats almost nothing BUT mcnuggets. Ack! Disgusting.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I just finished it.
But the pictures are so misleading. For a girl who eats no fruits and vegetables and only disgusting, fattening food, shouldn’t she balloon up to 250-300 pounds or something? She’s relatively skinny considering.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
It all depends on how mant she eats.
It doesn’t matter where your calories come from if input<=output, you won’t gain weight.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
*many
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
And her natural metabolism.
I’m not exactly sure how it works, but I would assume that high metabolism means that you burn more calories while resting, allowing you to take in more calories before needing to commit to exercise to burn them off.
That sound right?
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I have a ridiculously high metabolism
Not as high as it was in early college, when I was 120 pounds. But still pretty high.
Of course, I have no ability to put on muscle.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Also there is such a thing as skinny fat
she could be relatively thin and her insides could be pickling as we speak.
This is how I was until I was 25.
Then my metabolism changed. I fucking hate biology.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh...don't say this.
I have not yet reached 25….and want my metabolism to stay exactly as is.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
It won't...
I think we talked about this last week. sometime recently.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 26, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
You can't avoid it.
It may happen when you’re 25. It may happen when you’re 30. But it will happen. And it will suck.
I went from treating my body like a garbage disposal. Now if I look at someone else drinking a soda, I gain 4 lbs. If I think about a Milky Way, I gain 6 lbs. And it takes 10 times longer to drop those excess pounds than compared to pre-25 Tez.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
On that note
Let it be known that at 28 and 6 months I have finally had my first random lingering old man back pain. Woke up last friday with a twinged back and it has been lingering ever since.
Our Camden Chat lounge that birdman is building us totally needs a yoga room.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
I am game for yoga in the camden lounge
as long as there is a no namaste rule. I like Yoga I just am not at all into the hyper-spiritualist classes where people think it is relaxing to groan like walruses.
I second this amendment to our Camden Chat Yoga Lounge.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
the ayes have it.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 26, 2012 1:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Shit.
Stop telling me this stuff! I don’t want lingering pains. In fact, I hate pain.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Once you've had that first twinge...
… it is all downhill until you’re a broken shadow of your former self. And then you die.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Lovely.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
I just wish I could put on muscle
I just don’t. I can drop weight, but it doesn’t turn into muscle at all.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know if you actually think this
but you can’t turn fat into muscle. Some people think that that is what happens. It’s just that building muscle makes you burn more fat.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever
I know that the fat does not transform into muscle. I meant utilizing the energy from burning fat through exercise to turn it into muscle. My body doesn’t do that well. I can lift weights and do pushups and all that for months and see very little gain other than dropping of fat.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
You would need a trainer to put you on some sort of strict regimen where you eat a shitload of protein every day to gain muscle mass
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Right
And fuck that. That’s too much work.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I hear ya
Look up how much food Michael Phelps eats sometime. He has like a 10,000+ calorie per day diet. I heard Ladarius Webb from the Ravens talking about how he has to eat every hour or so to keep weight on in an interview one time too
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Man vs Food (Michael Phelps Edition)
<img src="http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/sport/gallery/2008/aug/15/michaelphelpsolympicdiet/GD8388832@Jon-Henley-attempts-t-2523.jpg"/>
Well, I don't need to like like Phelps
I’d just prefer to not have a bicep about as thick as a 4 year old’s.
Right
That’s what I’m saying. I don’t feel the need to look jacked. I just would like to not look like someone took some printer paper and stretched it over a skeleton.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You forgot generic.
Generic, boney white dudes. We all look exactly alike.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
hahah that's an awesome description
I’m gonna use it on my bf tonight.
“Baby, you look like someone took some printer paper and stretched it over a skeleton.”
(I do not say baby in real life)
I petition that Stacey now only refer to WW as "Baby".
Seconds?
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
I'd probably want to eat 10k+ calories a day too
after taking some hits from the bong.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Totally depends on how you're lifting weights.
I’ve found that most people have no clue what they are doing or whether what they are doing is appropriate for their goals – not implying that you’re one of them.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'm probably one of them.
Where do you go to find good info?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I haven’t looked in a really long time, but I think there’s tons of stuff out there like Men’s Health, Muscle and Fitness, etc. The big problem most people have is figuring out what their actual goal is – building muscle, toning, losing weight, sport-specific training, etc. Once you know what you want to do it’s relatively simple to search around and find a good workout plan.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
whatever you do
dont just lift chest and arms and neglect everything else. I prefer bodyweight lifting, all pushups, dips, chinups, and squats. You wont get huge but you will get cut.
Eh
It all depends on what your goal is. If building muscle is the goal then body weight exercises are certainly not the way to go.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
this is very true
pretty much just for functional muscle and some definition
I'm probably one of them
But I’m not really starting from much. I can do like 20 push ups and then I have to stop because my arm muscles stop working.
If building muscle is the goal you want your muscles to stop working (fail) at 8-10 reps for every set. This is something tons of people don’t get – they bang out sets of like 15-20 and at that point your muscles are burning so you have to stop, but they haven’t really failed.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yea, this.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
The 8-10 reps is a good starting point, yes
But once you’ve built a little muscle it’s much better to start cycles
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Right - that's why I said if the goal is building muscle.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
What's the difference between building muscles and toning?
Seems like toning is a form of building muscles, but again, I don’t know much about this stuff.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
It all depends on your goal
One with light weight and a lot of reps will give you definition and stamina but not much power or builk. Heavy weight and small reps will give more power and bulk but slightly less relaxed definition and stamina.
ah gotcha
so toning, lots of reps. muscle building, heavy weights, short reps.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
In a nutshell
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Essentially
but toning before you have muscles to tone is pretty pointless.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
oh good to know.
i need to modify my work out routine then.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
A note of warning
if you’ve never lifted like that before it will be very unpleasant at first and you’ll be much more sore than usual, but then you’ll also make much bigger gains.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
The great thing though
is you don’t have to be there nearly as long. A real good toning workout you have to do a bunch of sets and a bunch of reps each set.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
When people talk about building muscle they are usually trying to gain size and strength. Toning is usually about increasing definition and depending on the starting point may even be decreasing size.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Or, as my old hockey coach used to tell us
Toning requires you to actually have muscles in the first place.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
This
most of the people I see at the gym doing a toning workout have no business doing it.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Most people at the gym have no idea what they're doing.
Especially around this time of year
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Luckily, we're getting near the end of Resolutionist season.
Most of the people who said they were gonna get in shape starting on New Years give up right about now.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'm on the DL for awhile, they can enjoy themselves and hopefully they'll be gone by the time I get back
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Haha yeah good luck with that
When I think back to how I ate when I was in college… if I ate like that now at 26 I’d weigh 300 pounds. My frat house didn’t have a kitchen, so I ate greasy takeout for lunch and dinner every day and usually had a 1000 calorie smoothie from Smoothie King for breakfast each day.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I was up to 180 pounds at one point
Then I switched to diet soda and dropped to 160, then I started running 3 times a week and went to 145.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
oooo diet sodas is bad for you.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Well, now I mostly forgo soda altogether
I’ve been drinking tea, lemonade, water, and juice with only an occasional root beer for the better part of a month.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
the carbination and chemicals
destroy your teeth and provide no nutritional value
Anything in moderation is fine
nothing new to report.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 26, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The chemicals are much much sweeter than sugar.
Causes the brain to crave sweet things, but sugar doesn’t satisfy since you’re now used to something sweeter. Just makes you end up eating more sugar.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
there was some dubious science behind that study
not to mention the illogical conclusion that diet soda makes you gain weight
It's not illogical at all.
The chemicals are sweeter than sugar….that’s proven, but the studies saying you’ll crave stuff sweeter than sugar are somewhat incomplete. In any case, all soda contains ingredients that are linked to organ fat (way worse than body fat).
The soda alone likely won’t make you gain weight, but most people swallowing sodas daily consume tons of other bad things. Cutting out soda may not stop you from consuming other crappy food, but its a start.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
it probably wasn't the study that actually said it
but many news reports about it explicitly said diet soda causes weight gain
That's totally possible.
I know very little about this stuff, but when I read a soda label (diet or not), I get kinda freaked out. I can’t imagine how that stuff doesn’t cause you to gain weight.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
weight gain is caused by calories
diet soda has no calories, so to suggest it causes weight gain defies logic
Had a kid lose 3.6 lbs of water weight in a combined 65 minutes yesterday
Water weight FTW!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
haha my wife got so mad when we were doing a weight loss challenge
“How do you lose so much weight? It’s Not fair!”
“I dunno dear, it must be genetics”
men lose more weight than women, and quicker, too
During Weight Watchers, I was able to eat more food than my GF and I would lose more weight than her each week. She didn’t think it was fair.
Well I'd expect a guy to be able to eat more than a woman anyways.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Haha true enough
I was specifically mentioning the water weight that duck brought up.
I had a girlfriend in college who was taking a nutrition class
and she used me as a dietary study for something and the professor thought she was making up the results based on the number of calories I consumed.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
It might not change
My boyfriend turns 30 this year and he eats and eats and eats and is still super skinny.
My luck, this will not be me.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
i'm 32 and my matabolism hasn't changed
my dad is 60 something (am i bad for not knowing exactly what?) and his metabolism has never changed
My mother is 60 something
and she is fueled almost entirely by chocolate, ice cream, cookies, and other forms of sugar. She’s always been as skinny as a rail. Some people just never put on weight. That bitch didn’t give me that metabolism though.
That sounds sorta creepily like me....can't imagine it's good for my health.
Also…I’ll take it you don’t have a solid relationship with your mother.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Oh.
I cannot say I have ever called my mother a bitch.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Nope.
Never referred to any family member or significant other like that, actually. Just one ex-girlfriend….but she really is the devil (maybe was the devil….haven’t talked to her in a very, very long time).
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I know. No fight at all.
I was just making a statement. I don’t think any less of you.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Children are the worst people.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
it was some pretty epic single mother rage that inspired it
she basically came home from her dead end job making barely enough money to get by and the house was rather un-tidy after being used by 3 children all day.
Rather than resort to the typical yelling at us to start cleaning, she simply started emptying every drawer, cabinet, and shelf all over the house and told we had to put it all back together.
Unfortunately, rather than recognizing how shitty things were for her at that point and quietly accept the punishment, I decided to call her a bitch instead.
One morning my brother and I were being bratty
my mom had heard enough, I guess, because she took our bowls of oatmeal and dumped them on our heads.
Yea....I told my dad to fuck off when I was in middle school.
Never, ever did that again. Although, I really only curse on the internet. I almost never curse in person, but that’s probably because I’m pretty quiet in person.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I gained a good deal or respect for my father
I called my mom a bitch after a fight and my dad stared me down and said “If you are old enough to call my wife a bitch, then you are are old enough for me to treat you the same way I would treat any other person that said the same thing, this is a warning do you understand?”
Mine was 12th grade
I wanted to skip senior hook day, and he said “Not unless you have a fever of 106, your a$$ is going to school.”
My response?
“What do you care, you dropped out in 10th grade, anyway.”
I don’t remember the rest of that day.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Yep - I'm still waiting for mine to change.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yes and no.
What you eat affects your metabolism and such, which is why people on low-calorie, carb-and-veggie diets often struggle to lose weight even with exercise, while people who try crash diets like Atkins often find that they work (until they go back to a typically carb-heavy diet).
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
She consumes ridiculous quantities.
I mean…ridiculous.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
And by she, I mean the girl in the article.
Not DCO.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't think you were calling my fat and unhealthy.
Don’t worry.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Maybe a ridiculous ratio of mcnuggets to other food
but as J(O’s)elskIL said, as long as the actual calories aren’t extremely high, one wouldn’t expect the person to get really fat.
Yea...I think they talk about it a bit.
She does exercise, which keeps her sorta trim, but there’s only so much the body can do to filter out that salt and fat and such.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
I don't believe she can possibly be telling the truth
She would have died by now from various vitamin deficiencies if she only ate McNuggets, unless she also took vitamin supplements or something.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yea....they say that though.
She eats other stuff….but the ratio of McNuggets/fries to other food is astounding.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Well, they say she eas like french fries and potato chips
That doesn’t really add much nutritional variety to her diet.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
well.. the article says
“A teenage girl who has eaten almost nothing else apart from chicken nuggets for 15 years has been warned by doctors that the junk food is killing her.” So
15 years
I mean, I’m pretty sure she’d be dead well before 15 years. The body needs vitamins and stuff to grow.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
I suppose there's no way we can substantiate her claims
but 15 years sounds about right to me to start the “you’re dying because of your terrible nutritional intake” discussion.
I haven't read the article
but if she is a teenager and only eaten them for 15 years did the doctors warn her parents all who have been feeding her nothing but mcnuggets?
It would be funny if it weren't terrible
“Her exasperated mother Evonne Irvine, 39, who is battling to get her daughter seen by a specialist, told the newspaper: ‘It breaks my heart to see her eating those damned nuggets”
Her mother says she tried to stop feeding her to eat something else
But that she just didn’t eat.
I’m guessing she does, in fact, eat other things besides McNuggets but just eats a ridiculously high portion of them that is unhealthy because of all the salt and fat, rather than she’s dying because she has no Vitamin B in her diet.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like a psychological disorder...
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
is this girl a car or something?
My parents got a cat when I was young. They were told the cat only ate fancy feast. They said screw that and got the cheap stuff. The cat didn’t eat for almost a week and then it gave in, problem solved.
She is neither a car nor a cat.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Moral of this story for you parents:
Don’t feed your 2-year old McNuggets.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Warning!
Being stupid is bad for your health.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
My last final was yesterday...
Prom is on Monday. Graduation is on the 12th. I have nothing to do after that. Then, I hope on a plane to Amsterdam and have a 12-hour layover before I’m en route to Israel! I’m on my own because I’m not flying with the grade (it’s complicated, but that’s the story). If I have to sit in the airport for 12 hours, I may just kill myself. I think I’ll grab some Euros and take a day… but I’ll steer clear of that red lights district. I hear it’s fucking crazy, just a little rumor, y’know.
I’ll have very little access to a computer for three months so get your shots at me done pretty fast. You only have a month!
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Congratulaions!
Let me know if you need help while you’re here.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
I found a place for Passover, so I don't have to worry about that anymore.
She’s really frum and I’m praying I won’t be forced to wear a skirt for eight days. Eh, I think she might be modern Orthodox, but I don’t know her very well. She’s the step-daughter of a close family friend.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Way to start this again.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
It's okay.
I told you to take your shots at me while you still can.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Yeah
And I only do it out of caring.
Seriously, congratulations. I hope you have a great time in Israel and I’m sure we’ll all miss your presence.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Again?
Like she said, we have to get our shots in now!
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
That doesn't mean you have to listen!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I thought you would be the one most likely to pounce on this opportunity.
I vow to not take any of it personally… for fuck’s sake I gave you permission! Enjoy it.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
You should know by now that I like breaking the rules :-)
Giving me permission is boring.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Well I think that Junior dates are grateful.
No school the next day for them either!
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Worst comic ever.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah!
And maybe… well, you know, I can’t think of anyhting less plausible.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I'll be back the first week in June...
That would be a nice homecoming present.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
pretty awesome
amsterdam is supposed to be pretty sweet, so I’d adventure a bit if I were you.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I'm just a little leery because I'll be by myself.
But I actually have a friend from elementary school who’s attending college in Amsterdam, so I may meet up with her. And the nice thing about Holland is that you can get around on English.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Agreed
just go out and sit on that famous park or w/e by the little creek. Great for ppl watching I hear from my friend (hes been threre 3x).
by IggesRule13 on Jan 26, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Smoke lots of legal pot!!!
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
/sacrasm
although if that is your thing, now is your chance to have some gov’t approval.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Deen**
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
wow I will ditto your correction
haha she got caught eating a cheeseburger and everyone jumped on her
Amsterdam is very cool, and eminently walkable
’cept after partaking in the wares of some of their fine coffee houses.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
You can also follow me on twitter
@WestcoastOsFan
I haven’t tweeted in about 8 months and I only have 6 followers.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 12:37 PM EST reply actions
You sound like you need a hug.
I only have 6 followers.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
I'm @HolyMittens
I haven’t tweeted in a few weeks and I have 1 follower, unless a bunch of hookers decided to follow me since the last time I cleared them out.
by Holymittens on Jan 26, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Well now that I broke the 7 followers mark, I wil start tweeting more.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
and yes. I am last tweet was July 27th
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yea...I don't tweet at all.
I have a bunch of followers, but most of those people are just trying to solicit sex. I ought to clean them out….and just get rid of it altogether since I never use the twitters.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, are you being serious?
You have hookers following you on Twitter?
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
every week or so I get an email saying that someone is following me
and it’s always a woman with 6 followers and who is following 30,000 people, and her description is something like “I’m new to the area and I need a date.” So yeah, hookers. I report them all and they go poof.
I used to get those a lot
but they finally stopped, maybe because I alwasy reported them? I don’t know how that woud help
Wait...you got girls asking you for dates?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
they're not usually asking me for dates
it’s just followers for like x-rated chat sites and stuff like that. I’m sure they just spam follow everyone.
It's a pain in the ass.
Although lots of them go away if you either A) don’t tweet much or B) never respond and/or follow them.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
That is hilarious.
Since when did hookers do social media?
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yea...no joke.
I also only know 1 of the people following me. I have 9 now that I just cleared out the 5 hookers.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
I always get a little sad when I see I have like 3 new followers and I look at my list and 2 of them are sex spam bots.
I mean, I haven’t even started talking about Esskay’s quality meat products.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
I haven't gotten any in quite some time, I don't know why
But I do get people following CC that are from London. They stop following right away when they realize it’s not THAT Camden.
Maybe they're attracted to the quality meat?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
I use it as a form of news, "to stay in the know"
EME tweets during fan fest were cool.
by IggesRule13 on Jan 26, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
yeah... that's all I use it for basically
occasionally to comment on website that requires you to do so through twitter or FB or to follow the latest JenRoyle drama. I thought it was cool to use during the Rally to Restore Sanity because I could find tweets by location and get reports about how crowded certain metro stops were.
I am surprised anyone was getting cellular service to tweet anything during that rally.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
this was pre-rally...
and people were tweeting about the crowds at the various end of the line metro stops: greenbelt, new carrollton, rockville. Crowds were a little more spread out than at the rally itself.
Occasionally I search for nearby tweets just to see what random shit my sort-of-neighbors are tweeting.
Heh, I drove to Greenbelt and saw a line 8 miles long just waiting to get into the station.
So I was like… “OK, I’ll try to get to the next station in.” College Park. Same deal.
Then I had to call my mom and ask her to look up how I could get to the West Hyattsville station from where I was. This station was mostly empty. Problem solved. I just had to cram onto a crowded train once one arrived.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
someone texted me about how crowded GB was, so we headed west on the beltway
the exit to get off on Georgia Ave was backed up on the beltway, so we continued to rockville pike and had a minor line to deal with at the Grosvenor/Strathmore stop. Fortunately, for every packed car that came from a stop up north, they were sending one empty car directly to where we were. It was probably about 30-45 minutes before we were on a train.
I couldn't read twitter or do anything on my phone during that
Everyone I was with lost all cell service about the time we got to the mall and I couldn’t meet up with my friends who were coming from VA because we couldn’t find each other without phones.
Same thing happened to me.
Then at about 5:00 after everyone was gone, my phone blew up with texts that accumulated over the hours I was down there.
That day was crazy.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
After I checked out Tori Black's twitter (please don't judge me)
I got like 5 or 6 of those.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
i rarely tweet too
but i noticed all these weird random people started following me.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Signature.
I like throwing baseballs & footballs. Walks on beach are cool, especially w/wife & kids or some Bieber beats. Shoes are my passion and I love to ride bikes. - Guts' Twitter Bio
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 26, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
weird
i just checked out your twitter to find that i was already following you? :/
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 26, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Ha! Remember that homerun monstrosity that the Marlins are building?
Guess how big it is? F’ing HUGE!
Link
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
Same.
“This is a foul pole”
“Holy shit”
Hahahah
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Holy shit is right.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
The thing blinks and flashes.
Tell me that’s not going to get really freakin annoying while you’re trying to watch a baseball game. I really hope people actually show up to Marlins games now that they’re building this massive stadium.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
if someone hits a hr and no one is there to see it
do they still waste the 1.21 gigawatts to fire that thing up?
I hope not.
Talk about a waste of energy. They better power that thing with solar panels or something.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Sure... Everything about that thing screams rationality.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Prospects from Curacao for the Orioles to sign!
After the success of the infileder prospect Jonathan Schoop in the O’s minor leagues, their are more prospects from Curacao that can help fortify the Orioles farmsystem.
One of the top prospects that can follow the footsteps of Jonathan Schoop is the top shortstop prospect, Juremi Profar. Profar, 16-year-old in 2012, 5-foot-11, has a very good range as shortstop and is a good hitter with a power bat. Juremi Profar is a true athletic infielder, now shortstop, but as he keeps growing, can be move to the thirdbase.
Profar has already a lot of international experience playing at the Littleleague World Series, at Williamsport. At that time ESPN Baseball analyst, Orestes Destrade knew it already. All but guaranteed Juremi Profar will get signed by a major league club, when he’s 16 and eventually make the majors.
Another prospect from Curacao is Alexander Rodriguez or AL-Rod, a former Trinity Christian Academy athletic baseball player. AL-Rod, 18-year-old,6-foot-4, is a 1B/OF/LHP prospect with a lot of potential. Till now AL-Rod is a LHP with an average fastball, change-up and slider, but as he keeps growing, can be develop to a lefty with a fastball that can touched low-90s. AL-Rod is a good hitter with power.
He finished the year at TCA high school with 451AVG-6HR-34RBI in 82AB. As a pitcher with a good record of 5-2, 2.30 ERA, with 54 strikeouts in 44.0 innings. AL-Rod became World Champion Junior League 2007 in Taylor, Michigan playing for the Curacao team. He has gained also experience playing on big stage in Williamsport losing the final in 2005.
Other prospects from Curacao to watch; RHP Mirangelo Muller, RHP Claycandy Hariquez, LHP Quinton Willems.
I feel like with a little creative tampering with all geographic materials in the Warehouse...
We could convince Duquette that Curacao is in Asia.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
We're aware.
It doesn’t seem as though DD does, however.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
i presume...
juremi is the brother of jurickson? maybe the o’s SHOULD as they seem to have done well w/ baby schoop and baby bernadina. does kanley jansen have a younger sib that pitches?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 26, 2012 2:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Would there be any interest in a Camden Chat FIFA 12 tournament?
I know KBA plays on PS3, as do I. Get a couple more people, we could create a fanpost, and have a way to keep track of the scores and such.
I like throwing baseballs & footballs. Walks on beach are cool, especially w/wife & kids or some Bieber beats. Shoes are my passion and I love to ride bikes. - Guts' Twitter Bio
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 26, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions
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I like throwing baseballs & footballs. Walks on beach are cool, especially w/wife & kids or some Bieber beats. Shoes are my passion and I love to ride bikes. - Guts' Twitter Bio
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 26, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Hit enter too soon
I’d say PS3 because it’s the console I am on, but we could have another separate one for Xbox 360.
I like throwing baseballs & footballs. Walks on beach are cool, especially w/wife & kids or some Bieber beats. Shoes are my passion and I love to ride bikes. - Guts' Twitter Bio
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 26, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
I'd say we'd have to set a limit on team ratings
So people aren’t just sprinting around everywhere with Barca and Madrid. Something like 4 stars and under, make it closer in team ratings, and more competitive games.
I like throwing baseballs & footballs. Walks on beach are cool, especially w/wife & kids or some Bieber beats. Shoes are my passion and I love to ride bikes. - Guts' Twitter Bio
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 26, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
No...because I don't any of these systems.
But I’ll kick your asses in MarioKart 64 and/or GoldenEye!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
tried to think of some witty response implying you're old because you played these games in your chilidhood
Got nothing.
I like throwing baseballs & footballs. Walks on beach are cool, especially w/wife & kids or some Bieber beats. Shoes are my passion and I love to ride bikes. - Guts' Twitter Bio
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 26, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Heck, I'm not really a kid anymore (at least not by definition)
and I still play those games.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
No. Not lame at all.
GoldenEye is still awesome.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
/WW'd
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
halo was the first series i ever really got into
amazing story. multiplayer is second to COD however.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 26, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
well now it is
I remember going over a friends house and hooking his XBox up to GameSpy or XBConnect and playing multiplayer Halo online… wow was it fun. That night was magical.
oh yeah.
this i agree with. my friends and i used to get together daily and play split screen against each ohter and online as well. Halo 2 was the difinitive game at the time…but current halo vs current cod multiplayer is a no brainer.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 26, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Mostly because video games don't age.
What…did you expect the graphics were going to magically improve?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
What?
Nintendo has re-released every Mario and Zelda game ever on basically every platform they have ever made and each time they have made lots and lots of money. Games can age well and they can age poorly. That’s why people will still play a Pacman arcade game but no one is going to waste 50 cents on Virtua Fighter. Not everything is graphic dependent.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I still have a couple gigs of downloaded material for Sim City 4 from Simtropolis.
Great, great user created content there.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Re-released on other systems.
But GoldenEye64 is GoldenEye64. The graphics don’t just magically change. They are what they are.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
the graphics aren't the problem
I never mentioned the graphics. The graphics are basically what you would see on a smartphone today, which is to say they’re fine. The gameplay has been left behind, though.
Right.
Because it’s old.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
old doesn't have to mean outdated
Like dave has said, lots of old games are still very enjoyable and feel fresh. GoldenEye isn’t one of them. Not that it’s anyone’s fault, it’s just how it is.
this.
gba.emu and nes.emu are musts!
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 26, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
They haven't updated the graphics from the original Super Mario or Zelda
yet when they rereleased those they sold better than most Wii games
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Supposed to?
The original StarCraft is still eminently playable. Lots of old platformers are still fine. Those games do not seem dated, while GoldenEye definitely does. The controls feel ancient compared to everything post-Halo.
I tried halo 3 and COD2
a bunch of years after they came out and just couldn’t get into them at all — and those games are supposed to be legendary.
nailed it
I pretty much didn’t play any video games between 1999 and 2008. When I started again, I thought COD3>>>COD2 and that MOH was the better series anyway
Age of Empires II
It was, is, and always will be the best game ever.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Pass.
N64 for the win.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Rec'd
Best system ever. At least the system I had the most fun with. Can’t get into games anymore because they make em so damn hard to figure out. MarioKart was the tits.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Does this violate our attempts to be more welcoming to all genders?
MarioKart was the tits.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
No.
Girls play MarioKart too. Actually…they play GoldenEye as well. First time I played my N64 in nearly a year was last night…..2 hour GoldenEye tourney with 4 of my coworkers. One was female and she was way better than all of us.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
I think he's more referring to the tits part brah. LMAO
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know, bro.
I was making a joke out of it. Although everything I said is true.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
The adjective describing the awesomeoness that is MarioKart was why I asked...
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Only sometimes...
… but you’ve also made it pretty clear that you think I’m a douche 100% of the time, so I’ll keep that in mind.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'd like to think I'm a hoot 25% of the time.
But I’m also a realist, so I’d probably peg it at 7.2%.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
i bought a wii strictly because of mario cart.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Absolutely.
Best system ever. I still have it and play regularly during pre- and post-games
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
I can't believe you pass this off as a legit opinion
I never could beat the witch in Banjo Kanzooie. Still pisses me off.
Fack...I don't OWN any of these systems.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
You have NOTHING on Stacey on MarioKart
She plays for BLOOD
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I say a lot on this site...
But putting that aside, I will destroy anyone on this site in mariokart 64. That’s a guarantee.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno.
I’m pretty damn good at that game.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
That was a guarantee, second dave
A GUARANTEE! I hear you’re not even the best Dave at Mariokart on this site.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
That remains to be seen!
I actually never played it much on the 64. I got emulators a few years ago and played it like it was my job. That being said, I’m destructive.
This may be true
but I really only ever played on SNES. I’ve played on N64 a few times, and I was still good, but I destroyed on SNES. I didn’t even own an SNES, just went to friends’ houses and beat them all on their own systems. Then I went home and played Mortal Kombat with blood. Genisis Does What NintenDon’t!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I haven't played 64 in a long time
the only system I have now is a Wii. I used t be really good at it though.
I have never played the Wii version of MarioKart.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
It's fun, but it's not the same
You can set it up so you use the remote and the nunchuck in a way that mimics the old controller, which is pretty good. That’s how I always played at first, but now I just pretty much use the wheel.
The wheel is cheating!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
isn't there a function to play other people worldwide on the wii for mario kart?
people can put their words to a test!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
oh cool!
i want to play against you folks!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
You kicked my ass
I talked some smack for fun, and you straight-up embarrassed me.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
True story
When Dr. Mario first came out, I got it. That weekend, I went over to a friend’s house to spend the weekend. When I came back on Sunday evening, my mother had developed a huge blister on her thumb from playing Dr. Mario the entire time I was gone.
So now we have 2.
I’ll wait for another 2 or so, then make a fanpost to get some more interest.
I like throwing baseballs & footballs. Walks on beach are cool, especially w/wife & kids or some Bieber beats. Shoes are my passion and I love to ride bikes. - Guts' Twitter Bio
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 26, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
(Warning: Potentially controversial material.)
I listen to 100.3 for most of the day (prior to 10am and after 4pm, I do NPR). It’s a good enough mixture of classic rock and I don’t have enough CDs / MP3s to get through a day, much less a week without repeating and going crazy. However, they drive me absolutely crazy with their commercials. Why, you ask (or don’t ask, I’m going to say it anyway)? Because they lie.
100.3 advertises online that they do commercial-free hours. And as soon as that little blurb about a commercial-free hour ends, a commercial comes on. Over the past few weeks, two commercials have been driving me crazy:
The first is for some self-help guru. Her commercials sound like she’s starting a cult. But, whatever I guess.
The second is for a church… and I’m okay with that. However, the guy’s shtick is that he’s not preaching a sermon, he’s just giving you an idea. Except, he’s totally preaching a sermon.
I know advertising is what it is, but I really resent advertising that makes the assumption that I’m too stupid to even realize what’s going on and that the person advertising is blatantly lying to my face.
I am getting a Samsung Galaxy S II on Sunday...
… I’ll look into what options I’ve got.
Again, I don’t have an extensive enough MP3 library to avoid getting tired of it very quickly. What is Pandora?
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
I'm excited to get a smartphone again.
Haven’t had one in 5 years.
Although, I’m not excited about paying for the bastard. At least I get a discount through my company and I don’t even have to use it for work.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i hate my phone bill too
when i upgraded my phone a year and a half ago, i asked if i could decrease my minutes since i already have thousands of rollover minutes that i will never use. they said i was already on the smallest plan that they had and there was no way i could go any lower, so i’m kinda just stuck paying it. whatevs.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I'll be going with a T-Mobile plan...
It’s $40 for unlimited data / texts and some number of minutes that I’ll never use. After taxes and my wife’s line and all, I’ll still be around $100 a month, I think.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
mine usually comes in at around $88 a month
with the slight discount i get for being a Govie
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Oh, I forgot that the phone cost is also gonna be on there.
And we’ll be around $115 / month. >.<
Jesus, with my Verizon bill too, I’m paying like $2,500 a year for “communications”.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Don't have a landline...
Just FiOS internet and TV.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Nah...
I like HD baseball without having to worry about streaming. I like bumming on the sofa on a Saturday morning and randomly finding something to watch. I like a lot of Discovery Channel.
While I am complaining about how much I spend, I can afford it. I’m not going broke paying for this stuff.
And the quality of streaming stuff isn’t quite good enough yet for me to justify dropping TV.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Freakin sports
Cable should be praising jeebus. My wife and I have settled into a pattern of buying cable for football season then just ditching it the rest of the year. Sorry MASN the second you took my Orioles off of the local stations you lost me.
God I hate specialized sports channels
either way, when they stopped being on channel 13 regularly.
Pandora is a commercial free internet music streaming service
You basically put in what types of music you like and it plays that and similar artists/songs.
So, how do they make money?
There’s always a catch.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Well, hopefully they'd at least be better ads than 100.3 runs...
… and not lie about having “commercial-free” hours.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Nah. Every once in a while you get 30 seconds of little caesars or skyy vodka
it’s not bad. I just tap mute for 30 seconds and then tap it again.
They have ads?
I don’t remember them having ads when it was free. But I do pay for the subscription (because you couldn’t skip more than 5 songs in an hour), so I guess it’s just been a while.
do you have to always be so cynical?
they have short ads (between 15 and 30 seconds) about every 5 songs or so. i listen to it through my iPhone mostly and there are some times where it won’t play any ads at all.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I was just making sure I wouldn't get roped into something that I didn't like.
When it comes to knowing that someone will always make a profit off of everything, yes, I am cynical.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Slacker's better
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Shit
Got an iPod? They have like $10 things you plug into your car that can play your iPod over your radio.
I never listen to the radio.
I am fundamentally opposed to all products labeled "iAnything".
I do have an old MP3 player laying around somewhere that I got in Korea. It’s actually kinda cool. It’s shaped like a cylinder, so when you’re running or something, it rests inside your hand really easily and comfortably. Then to control it, you just twist the end of it. Much better design than any of the rectangular shaped MP3 players I’ve ever seen.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Haha... I did a search for "old Samsung MP3 player" and it came up.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
A yepp?
What fantastic marketing. Hey! Let’s call our device the “Yepp”
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Here's a funny review from cnet...
Portable power is what the Yepp YP-55H is about, with 128MB of memory…
Ahaha… 128MB.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
wtf?
128MB? So you got…..5 songs on there?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Technically approx. 32 TL
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Although, mine has bonus cool points for being Oriole orange.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, mine is the YP-55V, instead of the H (the purple one).
That’s 256MB, baby!
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
It boggles my mind you still use this
I remember my first mp3 player was an rca, 128 MB also. cost me $100
Nah, I don't use it anymore.
I just still have it laying around.
The only time I play MP3s at all is when I’m putting on background music at dinner or something. I just don’t listen to music as much as I used to.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Don't you wish there was a feature to hide a thread
Like you hide a comment. One click and BOOM it wraps everything up.
I should suggest that.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
You don't like my radio commercial and antiquated MP3 player thread?
It’s gotta have some comedy value that even duck’s phonograph cylinders are more modern than my only MP3 player.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
yessir
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
Can we get a 4th?
Anyone? Bueller?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
in checking out mlbtraderumors...
Wow, the Dodgers were the next highest bidders with 7/160. And Adrian Cardenas was DFAed. What do people think about him? Is Sacramento one of those PCL launching pads? If not, I think I prefer him over Flaherty.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I assume you mean the Dodgers were the next highest bidders for Prince, right?
Funny, they have all that McCourt shit going on and they almost followed up the Kemp extension with that.
Where the heck are they getting all of this money from?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
The likely new owner is a billionaire
reportedly, with a very strong desire to become very active in FA.
So, think a richer version of Petey right after he acquired teh O’s.
That should end well for the Dodgers.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
they haven't picked a new owner yet.
frank mccourt approved the signing even though he is being transitioned out.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Yup, Prince.
So the two highest bidders were completely under the radar in the press. Basically, you can’t trust news reports when it comes to blue chip free agents.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
The entire Pacific Coast League is a launching pad...
… because so many of the stadiums are in dry areas or at altitude. Cardenas had pretty mediocre numbers at Sacramento his first two stops there. In 2011, he put up good numbers in a full PCL season. However, he still only had a .791 OPS in a very hitter-oriented league.
Unfortunately, Baseball Reference doesn’t have home/away splits for the minors.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
I thought Iowa wasn't a launching pad.. or not as much as Albuquerque for example.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I suspect that...
… most of the American Conference North Division is fairly neutral in park effects. Most of the other three divisions have a lot of dry air or high altitude locations, though.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
please see...
firstinning.com
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 26, 2012 3:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
man oh man oh man
this “Breaking Bad” music video/tribute video is the best thing i’ve seen today
NSFW and very spoilery
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Fantastic
Season 5 is supposed to start up in the Fall. Can’t wait. I’ve got so many ideas as to what is going to happen.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Is that really the best way to describe a memorial service?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Well maybe if you expected everyone to say it
it means that it might not be the appropriate word. But whatever, it’s your opinion. Just seems off.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I mean its awesome because so many people are showing and sharing their love and support for the guy
figured that would be pretty obvious.
I understand where you're coming from.
I’ll check on it tonight. I avoided it while I was at work, because I knew it’d make me cry.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
From an Onward State Writer
@RBecklerPSU That was the most incredible thing I’ve ever been a part of. Period.
MUSCLE
What else did I miss? Anyone down for Risk?
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 3:48 PM EST reply actions
Yep, but I've never played with CCers
and I have no idea where you people are going to play Risk.
Robert Andino, let me buy you a beer.
what is your email?
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Still waiting on an e-mail.
I want to play with the cool kids.
Robert Andino, let me buy you a beer.
You should have gotten it right about now.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Excuse me?
You people?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Drink POWERTHIRST
And yes. I’ll play risk, although I will be leaving around 445
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
IN NEW FLAVORS!
RAWBERRY! MANANA! and FIZZBITCH!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
and...
GUN
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
SO MANY BABIES!
your babies will run as fast as KENYANS and people will think they’re KENYANS and they’ll be deported back to KENYA!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
last call!
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
game is up
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Should I ask Guts over twitter if he wants to meet up next time he is in OR?
He always seems to respond to that sort of stuff.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 4:07 PM EST reply actions
I'd probably ignore some creepy kid asking if I wanted to "meet up" next time he's in OR.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not a creepy kid.
And I would find a more creative way of phrasing it.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Does this really apply?
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta be PC these days.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
haha, I thought it was funny.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
none taken
Now that I look at it, it was actually funny. I was just confused at first.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Make it like this:
Big GIF, but i felt it was worth it
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 26, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
your tax returns will suffer as a result.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
by birdman on Jan 26, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
as will your muscle toning and building.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 26, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
in fairness
I don’t dig all the hottie stuff either. I can go elsewhere for that.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
I have a solution. Hold onto your chairs.
All hottie talk can now take place within Risk games.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 4:56 PM EST reply actions
Holy shit.
I go watch Brothers & Sisters for a few hours and KABLOOEY. Comments.
That reminds me, now that I have nothing to do all day, anybody have suggestions for how to be productive and/or have fun when you have nothing to do?
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Okay, besides reading books!
Because I’ve been reading books for days now.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
I think there's a Fanpost about it ;)
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly I never even glance at the FanPosts
I waste too much of my time at work on the open threads. I’d get nothing done if I read FanPosts.
I know... hence the ;)
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Drugs and Alcohol.
Or so I hear.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Also:
Can you believe I’m so bored that I’m compelled to watch Rob Lowe’s death scene so many times that I’m out of tears?
Wait… is that boredom or depression?
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
...Senator Rober McCalister, played by Mr. Lowe, is dead.
Yes.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
WAS, he's dead.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Do you watch Brothers & Sisters?
Or rather, did you before it went off the air?
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
I did
I loved it. I mean, it’s not going to down in history as the greatest show ever (or even close) but you couldn’t beat the eye candy.
As prime time soap operas go (and let's be honest, it was pretty much a soap opera)
It was actually pretty good.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
spoiler
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Thirded.
Parks and Rec is awesome. On a slightly related note, I just started listening to Childish Gambino (don’t know how I didn’t know about him before, seeing as I’ve been watching Community since it’s premiered. I’m ashamed). I’ve heard Aubrey Plaza, Aziz Ansari, and Rashida Jones mentioned. I think I’ll make a checklist of Parks and Rec cast members.
I'm pretty sure he made a whole song about RJ.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Keep it to yourself.
You are scaring the females.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
The watch it for Nick Offerman.
God bless that man… and his moustache.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Her character is terribly annoying. I can't stand her.
But I still love the show.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Being interested in politics is not a prerequisite to enjoy it...
any more than being interested in paper is a necessity to have enjoyed the Office.
It helps though
there are plenty of wonk-ier moments where someone without an interest in politics would probably lose interest
George Takei shared it on facebook.
No, I’m not a Star Trek fan, but George Takei’s shares the awesomest stuff.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Seriously?
Look at my profile pic————————→
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Well, HM did.
But yeah, my bad, haha
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
So does anyone remember the rumors of a Ferris Bueller sequel last summer?
someone just posted this on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuHmEo0Bx7Q
along with a bunch of other ferris bueller clips
I was sick this week so I just beat GTA 4
Pretty fun game. Although all the killing is a little grating after a while.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions
Nice.
I never accomplished that. Last mission I remember doing is one where you go in an rundown building, get a brief case and the FBI and shit comes after you. Musta tried that 100×.
I beat the game, and that was definitely the hardest mission in the game.
I was never able to do it by just trying to get into a car and driving away, because even if I was able to make it into a car, I wouldn’t be able to lose them. Eventually I decided to try to run into the nearby water and swim away. Instead I landed on a boat or something and got away.
After my first time through...
I played a second time with two goals:
1) Kill the absolute least number of people possible (still was over 1,000).
2) Beat the game without running over a single person (success).
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
1) I was under 800, at some point I decided I would never kill a cop in a video game, ever.
2) I tried this as well with not total success, but not blowing up every car I drive is actually nice.
Also, why I really liked LA Noire is that it had all the open world stuff without the excessive violence.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yup, I loved SA, first one I beat, I never got around to beating Vice City.
It probably won’t come out until 2013 but it looks really sick.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
It's hard. There's a bunch of missions where you basically have to race across town.
Not mowing over pedestrians is a pain in the ass. I didn’t do it the first time every mission. If I did mow one down, I retried the mission until I could do it without mowing anyone down.
There’s also one mission where you have to steal a cop car and that’s really hard to do without killing a cop. I found out that if you push a parked cop car into one of your parking spaces and save, it becomes yours. Total yoink.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
You can actually just call 911 and they come and you just take their car.
There is the tunnel mission where you have to kill them to get that stupid stockade (that mission took me about 10 tries).
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
Or cab it to that section of town where all the cop cars are parked, too. Never any cops around those.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
Jeebus.
Reading through the massive discussion here today reminds me that I really really wish I didn’t have a job that keeps me simultaneously insanely busy and totally fucking miserable.
I'm interested to see how many times
the same things can be said over and over again up above.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 6:03 PM EST reply actions
I love seeing what comment sparks these huge debates.
This time it was actually the first comment of the thread.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Better than yesterday's conversation
about people’s preference in cartoon characters.
I still don’t feel right after that.
Robert Andino, let me buy you a beer.
yeah, i started that.
not one of my best moments.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I kinda want to go back and read it...
But I also kinda want to avoid it because I am sure I’ll want to restart the debate if I do.
Dammit
It didn’t get added to after I left.
That little bitty thread didn’t even get anywhere NEAR what I would consider weird.
yeah, but i'm not expecting everyone, including myself, to read every single comment.
thus there’s going to be some repeating.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Yea except that
it’s the same couple of people saying the same things to each other.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Okay...
I just skimmed through yesterday’s thread to see what all the hub bub was about… and apparently I’m black?
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
And birdman in a girl
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Good for him.
Let’s just not discuss if she is hot or not.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
Discussing it would imply that you knew what I looked like.
If that were the case, I would definitely leave for good.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
He was referencing birdman in a weird ladyboy way.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
You said "in" not "is"
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
You missed the joke.
Not that you were missing much.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Alright
How about I pretend that yesterday’s thread never happened?
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
Probably for the best.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Did you know that I am Asian?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Did you know that before you read the thread?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Nope.
Okay so I guess that’s the part I’m not supposed to forget?
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
I think he was saying
we shouldn’t discuss whether or not birdman is hot. On a related note, birdman’s jokes suck because she’s a girl.
White people are going to feel really left out.
:(
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Chest bump for generic white guys!
F#$% Yeah!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Don't tee it up so high.
Someone is bound to take a swing.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
See, self policing!
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you!
I thought it was only me!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
you're white, so you're not invited. no offense.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
But I thought I was black.
Oh never mind. I’M NOT BLACK.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
You aren't fooling anyone.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Not black, yeah right.
Next you’ll be telling us you’re not Jewish.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Well
She is Jewish and black. DCO is actually Amare Stoudemire
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
This is just getting weird.
That’s my cue. See ya’ll later.
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
The apostrophe should be between the y and a
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
And the m and the c
should be between the y and the a
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
clap clap clap
Well played
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
but aren't chest bumps is a thing that generic white people do?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I'm amazed that Stacey remembered that I'm not white....
well….technically not white (even if the Census and Black people think a middle easterner like me is white).
Great story!
My parents have a friend from Morroco who emigrated to the US in the 70’s. His family was in Morroco since 1493.
Anyway he’s filling out some Social Security form and hands it in. This black lady manning the station looks at it, back at him and says “You’re not African-American!”
He just didn’t know what to say.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
I recall reading a story a while ago
about the shitstorm of controversy that a med school applicant whose parents emigrated from South Africa caused when he put down “African American”.
I’m not entirely sure how I feel about it. Black people have/had to deal with a lot of shit in this country, but there’s no denying that he was entirely accurate.
Meh. I just think it's funny.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
"in Morocco since 1493" leads me to believe his family was in Spain prior to 1493
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Correct.
Seville to be precise.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
The Moors are the one piece of Spanish-language Spanish history that I remember from high school.
I don’t know why.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, Noooo, I'm so sorry. It's the Moops. The correct answer is, The Moops.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
I can't even remember what that's from...
… but I know it was hilarious.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Overflow thread anybody?
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
I've been in my pajamas all day and have done absolutely nothing.
I’m going to go eat some waffles so peace out for the day!
Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.
You can't eat waffles and Camden Chat at the same time?
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
It's dead time anyway.
We already blew our load (am I allowed to say that?) with like 1200 comments earlier. Although as I say this, WW just showed up, so we might just keep going.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
I have high hopes for an astounding 1,500 comments.
And if WW gets rolling, we could be in for a 2,000 comment random day in the middle of January when nothing baseball-related happened for the O’s.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
What are you talking about?!
We signed Andino to a $1.3 million contract!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
Check out this Robert Andino photobook
http://www.camdenchat.com/2011/9/29/2457325/robert-andino-a-photojournal
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
And thus we begin a wonderful journey to Sept. 28, 2011!
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Little Known Fact:
Chris Davis was involved.
by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 26, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
He did a good thing that day
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
can you linky me?
I would love to see that right now. I should bookmark that.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not being lazy, I get an error when I search for it.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
I love the all caps.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
Haha O'sfan's comments while Dino was at the plate.
“FUCKING STICK THE DAGGER IN RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!”
“MAKE THESE BITCHES FUCKING CRY!!!!”
Well, he did post this, too.
“FUCK THIS FUCKING ANUSFACE DICKHEAD!!!!!”
Maybe that was just an impostor trying too hard, though.
1. I still have the dino screengrab zk posted as my laptop wallpaper
2) I switched my sig and pic to Giants stuff, but I am changing it back to dino stuff now.
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
thanks!
Wearing my Dino shirt right now actually!
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I could find video of that 9th inning w/Gary’s play-by-play. I couldn’t find it on MASNsports.com, the O’s site or Boston’s site.
Did Sawx Nation destroy video evidence?
I just bookmarked the NR double.
Can you buy a copy of the game on mlb.tv?
"You're gonna be so sad when they get crushed by the Packers later." -kba26, on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 AM PST.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure there's video of Reimold's double and Dino's hit on mlb.com.
But you can also enjoy these, complete with schadenfreude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc3GinrTEqE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbaYeerU4A8&feature=related
I couldn’t find them on mlb.com (at least Orioles.com and ugh, redsox.com) didn’t think of buying it on mlb.tv.
I might pay a little bit to listen to that again.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Fred on that WBAL call is such a disaster.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 26, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
I forgot about how Gary bangs the table after the Nolan double.
sigh, I can’t wait for baseball to start again.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
I go through those thread provably once a week.
Keeps morale up.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 26, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
I just z'd through that entire joel/birdman/hm/etc argument.
All like 400 comments of it. It definitely can be done.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
This Republican debate is so tense
Gingrich and Romney are trying to eat each other and Rick S. and Paul are going at each other. This is actually fun to watch just for the drama.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 8:32 PM EST reply actions
Shit is hitting the fan.
Wolfie not backing down. The brief moment of “no personal attacks” is over.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
I hope you guys are enjoying my live commenting.
I can never take Rick Santourm seriously, I always just imagine him as the Andy Samberg version of him.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:02 PM EST reply actions
if only he was a known quantity from the off topic threads.
things would be different!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I always just imagine him as a frothy mix of....well, I'll just leave it at that.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Well being the outsider looking in
I have my coffee with you folks a lot , and hope you NEVER change ! .for real you people have the best blog on sb nation , i will slink out now have a good night .
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Jan 26, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
RICK SANTOURM ANGRY!
RICK SANTOURM TURN INTO HULK, EXCEPT WITHOUT CUTOFFS
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:09 PM EST reply actions
That was such a terrible question.
Although Mitt won based on pure numbers.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, no, this is the worst question yet.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:23 PM EST reply actions
Mitt mentions his wife had MS and breast cancer
I bet Newt feels awkward right now.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think you mean.
Manners ARE very important.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:27 PM EST reply actions
uh-oh Rick is getting mad agian.
Quick, CUT TO RON PAUL!
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions
Is there another Noriega that i don't know about?
or did Rick Santorum just blame Obama for someone who hasn’t been in power for 13 years?
He gets a little flustered at times.
Earlier he said that Obama was working together with Castro and Chavez and that he supported Marxist and Leftist dictators.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
oh snap.
She just said that Jacksonville was a great city.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:45 PM EST reply actions
she's incorrect.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
hehehe
“There are three ways in which religion would effect me” Newt just said three-way.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:47 PM EST reply actions
The academics are waging a war against Christians.
I learn something new everyday.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:52 PM EST reply actions
What channel do I switch to
to watch them being fed to the lions?
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Ron Paul admits that Democrats would vote for him.
He just lost, not that he was ever going to win.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:54 PM EST reply actions
there are a few that probably would vote for him.
you get weirdos in every breed.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
This
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Right
but the 40% is so fucking batshit insane that it destroys the 60% that’s pretty attractive.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Unfortunately this is true.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
What is really at issue
is why we can’t have an strong anti-war Democrat. Thats largely where Ron Pauls cross-aisle appeal is, but they’re so afraid of being painted as too dove-ish that they all cave on the issue.
I think the war on drugs stuff gets him a lot of the druggie vote too.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
So....all of them?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
weak.
Even Newt knows he won’t win with just Republicans but with all of AMERICA.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Win what?
Ron Paul’s not going to win anything except a ticket back to whatever rock he crawled out from under.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
My response is the same.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Just swap out "Ron Paul" for fig newtons
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
You never know.
Newt is getting people excited. Old people mostly.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't the conv. in Tampa?
They are really going with the old people theme in 2012.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
I meant fuck everyone supporting him. Not just the old people, even if they're the majority.
But, yeah, that’s not going to work out.
Newt wants you to know he is old.
Don’t you dare forget it.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 9:56 PM EST reply actions
I prefer a paycheck to food stamps.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 9:57 PM EST reply actions
I wish everyone on food stamps felt that way.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
So many of them are choosing food stamps over pay checks.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Unfortunately, yes.
Didn’t I tell you about the guy I saw in a Giant buying Godiva ice cream with his food stamps? Tell me that’s not a waste.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Exception to the rule.
Anecdotal evidence is not valid.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Don't dare try to make em get drugtested though...
Because you know, those of us that get paychecks never do….. errrrr….. wait.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
I've never once been drug tested in exchange for my paycheck.
By the way I loved that the dude who proposed that just got a DUI.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Oh wow you saw one guy? That means it's a systemic problem.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
by O'sFan21 on Jan 26, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I suppose that, yes in principle, everyone would prefer a paycheck over foodstamps.
Unfortunately, there is an increasing number of people who settle for food stamps, because a paycheck requires doing something to earn it.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
LOL.... I'm really just tacking on because
I’ve never seen all three of us red-staters on at once and most of the crazy hippies out of commission. It’s OUR ONE SHOT FELLAS!!!
Camden Chat – Where the only thing liberal is our owner…
NEW TAGLINE!!!!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
I wish i could find the data, because i understand being skeptical about it
but they’ve seen in Florida very very low failure rates when they tried to drug test welfare recipients, to the point where the testing was potentially costing more than any revoked benefits. I’m certainly not saying it doesn’t happen, but the welfare junkie is not a major issue.
Tell em to test in Baltimore and not Tampa Bay
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
This article has some links to hard data on the issue
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/09/welfare-and-drug-testing?fsrc=rss
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
It's an issue of particular interest to me. I save every link I read on the subject.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Now, of course nobody knows how many people decided not to apply for benefit because of the drug tests
Ummmm… I’d imagine quite a few
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Why? I don't think the prospect of a potential drug test would deter a large number of those....
who are determined to get a handout. Remember the scene in The Wire when Cutty goes for his? That ain’t fiction. It ain’t hard to get around these things. But they are a tremendous intrusion into law-abiding citizens lives. And I feel that if you begin to trample on the right to privacy of law-abiding citizens in some deranged witch hunt against ‘junkies’ you forfeit any right to call yourself a ‘conservative’.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeit
What’s the difference in drug-testing me? Why the fuck shouldn’t they be drug tested getting a government check. The government pays my check and I get tested all the time.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think you should be drug tested necessarily.
I understand the logic of it for certain ‘safety sensitive positions’, but I am pretty firmly against drug testing in general.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Why, who the piss cares? It's a deterrent.
If I’m innocent I don’t have shit to hide… if I’m guilty I’ll be justifiably punished.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
If I’m innocent I don’t have shit to hide
Oh, lets just get rid of most of the Bill of Rights then. Its no longer necessary.
beat me to it.
Let’s just allow govt. agents into our homes to inspect them. Can’t be too safe.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Completely different.
No one is coming into your home and drug testing you and taking you to jail. Employers have rights as well. Don’t like being drug tested? Find a new job. That’s your right.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And you're entitled to that opinion.
I work in aviation. I’m pretty sure my pilot’s would want to know if I was a drug user. Their lives are in my hands everyday. Wouldn’t want me torquing a jesus nut on a rotor blade when I’m high.
How about if your mother has a heart attack and the paramedics show up after they have been sitting around the firehouse smoking a joint?
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Just a general statement.
Not trying to call you out kba.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously
Would you want your wheel of fortune host getting drunk on the clock?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
bwahahaha
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahah
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
What about drinking?
Should we test peoples BAC before they come into work? What if you are working with a hangover? I don’t want a paramedic smoking a joint, nor do I want one who had a late night drinking.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Some people can most certainly hide the effects of drugs
When someone is in your office drunk or had a “late one” you DEFINITELY know it. Their eyes, their smell, everything about em. And they get to lose their jobs too.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
It's not that easy to hide being high.
If you know what to look for it’s fairly easy to spot when someone has partaken.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Most of the people I work with would have no idea what to look for.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
This is true
but all of the mouthwash and cologne in the world can’t cover up an all nighter at the bar.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
You can try though.
People can always tell, however.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
We had a guy at my work get caught drinking on his lunch break at one point
he knew he was getting shit-canned, so he fessed up and told the boss he’d been getting plastered during lunch (pounding a 6 pack in 30 mins) for nearly 10 years without getting caught.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Oh this is total bullshit
there are millions of functioning alcoholics going about their daily lives and jobs every day and you only find out about it when something bad happens. I come from a family of raging alcoholics who proved that point their whole lives.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Pretty much what WW said
It is a lot easier to tell if someone has been drinking. People can and do get fired for it as well.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
This.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
and one of the problems with drug testing for pot
is that the chemicals from THC stay in your system for weeks afterwards. So you can fail a test in spite of not having smoked for a significant period of time.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
And who exactly is at risk if somebody gets their food stamps while smoking weed?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Certainly not Cheetos Inc.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
If you can't get a job/get a better job
because you aren’t qualified because you are a drug user, then you shouldn’t be able to receive assistance.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
If a job requires you to pass a drug test
and you are not capable of doing so you are not qualified for that job.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
So are you only going to apply that to people on unemployment who are applying for jobs that require a drug test and fail it?
What about the guys applying for jobs at the gas station?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'd imagine that's the gas station's decision.
The government isn’t paying the employee’s at the gas station.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
haha
but he said if a not being able to pass a drug test is what’s preventing him from getting a job then he shouldn’t get unemployment – does that mean the government should validate that’s the case?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'm getting confused.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Or
should the government just blindly assume that all jobs require drug testing and if you fail the government’s drug test that’s the reason you’re unemployed and so you don’t get assistance?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
so are you in favor of expanding, or at least making sure,
that drug-treatment programs are available and accessible? So that those who have drug problems can get the help they need. Or should they just go die in an abandoned row house somewhere, out of sight, out of mind? One less piece of human detritus…
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
I've never worked at a place
that wouldn’t get an addict help as long as they admitted the problem before being caught. If someone seeks out the help that they need then I am all for it. If they don’t want the help, then fuck ’em.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
No, of course not,
but they didn’t come forward. They were caught. At that point the company shouldn’t be responsible for helping them. It’s easy to say you want help when your job is on the line.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
And how exactly will you know that to be the case from a drug test result?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
inthe same way they often sit around a firehouse passing a bottle?
are we going to do pre-emptive alcohol tests as well now?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
never mind, already brought up
this thread is enormous.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Employers have a right to make rules on who works for them.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Rec-a-roni
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
But, in these cases the entity requiring the test isn't an employer
And the testee (teste…hehehe) isn’t an employee. It’s the govt. requiring the test, and the govt. can take you to jail.
Now, I understand that jail is not a part of the current bills. But slippery slope….
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
If you are collecting a government paycheck from welfare or unemployment.
In lieu of employment, I believe that makes the government your employer as your provider. Why should someone collect a welfare or unemployment check and be allowed to abuse drugs, when the guy getting up at 6am and working his ass off 10 hours does it and gets fired?
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
well, hell, if they abuse enough of the right drugs
they won’t be on public assistance very long! THAT WILL SAVE $$$.
And, again, I don’t think the guy getting up at 6 am should be subjected to it either. I find it reprehensible on Constitutional grounds regardless.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Could you tell me how that's unconstitutional?
I mean, specifically. How me being drug-tested by my employer is unconstitutional. People throw that word around to support anything. I seriously want a chapter and verse answer if you have one.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
I can't do it right now
but if you want, i can probably find you some articles that make the argument
You've already gone on record saying you believe it's totally LEGAL
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Yea...it just depends on how high you are when you read the Constitution.
I swear it says something different every time I read it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
I do, in general
but there’s other people that don’t. I am capable of finding literature that i disagree with.
So is google.
There’s a lot of shit out there man!
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Well i was going to search law review databases for you that there isn't public access to
but if you just want to google some shit, go ahead
The beginning of the 4th Amendment reads as such:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated…
I view ‘the right of the people to be secure in their persons…and effects’ to include your (Gen. Jack D. Ripper voice) “precious bodily fluids”.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Is drug testing when you are getting a government check deemed "unreasonable"
I could make the case it’s not.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Big word in all of that is ''unreasonable''.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
yes, it is. I admit this.
I find it to be unreasonable for the govt. to demand you to turn over your bodily fluids, except in extremely limited circumstances. Courts have as well in some circumstances. YMMV.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody demanded anything.
They just ask.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
But you have the right of refusal!!!
Just say “I’m not doing it” and “I don’t want your money”.
You have every right to refuse it AND your entitlement.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
This is true.
I just happen to be of the opinion that one should not have to subject themselves to the seizure of their bodily fluids in exchange for some meager amount of public assistance which is designed to keep them from starving to death on the street.
There is waste, fraud, and abuse all throughout our governmental systems and programs. That is true, and it is, quite frankly, always going to be that way. If some poor people want to trade their food stamps for a blast, well, I don’t particularly care.
But, If you really want to weed (pun intended) the waste, fraud, and abuse out, then there are far larger areas demanding attention and scrutiny.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
They aren't mutually exclusive
And you really don’t have a problem IF (even if it’s one person for sake of argument) someone is using government assistance to get high.
I mean, just in principle for a moment, ignoring any financial motivation or lack thereof for implementing it. You really have NO PROBLEM if someone uses welfare money to buy drugs? Tax bucks?
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
I have no problem with that if the vast majority of people aren't using it to get high.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Well
I was simply trying to nail down how I think aside from everything, this is frustrating to read even if it’s just one person.
If some poor people want to trade their food stamps for a blast, well, I don’t particularly care.
I would hope the sentiment would at least be "of course people buying drugs with welfare money is something I disagree with BUT yada yada yada cost of implementing isn’t worth yada yada most people aren’t yada yada.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Let me clarify. I think they should get help with their drug problem
but I am not going to make a moral characterization of them based on whether they choose to use drugs.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I could care less if anyone uses drugs personally
I do care, in theory, if people are buying drugs with tax bucks. That ain’t right.
And yeah, there are a million more pressing issues. But to say who cares if they use food stamps to buy drugs is absurd to me.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
I take the Bill Hicks stance:
Not only do I think marijuana should be legal….I think it should be mandatory!
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
And, after some reflection, let me clarify again
I believe there should be a social safety net for our citizenry.
I hope that such program(s) will be run effectively and efficiently. But I feel that a portion of those who make use of that safety net will inevitably abuse the benefits it confers upon them. I do not worry about what those who are abusing the system are doing with their lives.
Sure, it sucks funding someones bad habits and poor choices. But it is, tragically, inevitable. And I don’t feel that drug testing is either and appropriate or effective means of combating the issue of people using govt. assistance on drugs.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
It's not about them using drugs.
It’s about them buying drugs with tax payer money.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
No. I have no problem if someone is using
their assistance to chase a blast. I really, truly, do not give a fuck what people do with their lives. To each their own. Don’t cause me any harm, and I will treat you likewise.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Dude
Seriously?
I really, truly, do not give a fuck what people do with their lives. To each their own
It isn’t JUST their own. They are USING taxpayer money. You really don’t care in theory, if some unworking person wants to sit around and get high with a check they collected from a government who collected it from a working/taxpaying citizen?
Am I going mad?
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
The world is a shitty place
and there are shitty people in it. You are never going to be able to eliminate all the shitty behavior from people who inhabit this place. There are ways to try and curtail drug use. I am all for plenty of funding for drug treatment programs. But I’m not going to get worked up over a problem that I do not feel is as significant a drain on public resources as it is made out to be.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, and that's fair
But at least admit you have a problem with it in theory. (welfare recipients buying drugs with tax bucks)
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Unemployment checks sure won't buy you very much drugs.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeit
My sister was getting like $1000 or $900 or something every two weeks. That can buy a lot of pot. I don’t even know how much most people get.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, how do you know how much pot costs?
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't it based upon a %, up to a certain amount,
of what you were making before you lost your job? I honestly don’t know.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Something like that,
but you didn’t have to be making that much to get 100%.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
Seems HIGHLY unlikely
considering the average unemployment check is about $300/week.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
She was getting $900 every two weeks...
I just called her.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
What state?
NJ is the highest paying in the country and the maximum is $598/week, but it’s pretty hard to qualify for that amount. Have to have a really high income prior to unemployment.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
BROOOOO
$900 every TWO weeks.
She was pulling down approx. $450/week
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Right
I’m saying that that’s absurdly high – 50% higher than the national average.
That’s part of my problem with this whole debate – why is this even an issue? Spending on unemployment is a tiny portion of the budget, abuse is very rare, and most people get barely enough to live on. Why is it even an issue? It’s just so ticky tacky.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
It's like the O's worrying about who's going to be the backup catcher...
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
This
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
$121 billion for unemployment
in fiscal year 2011 ($482 billion total for welfare programs). Compared to $129 billion for education. Nothing next to defense, healthcare, and pensions, but welfare easily comes in at fourth.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Out of 3.8 trillion!
But I’m sure adding drug testing would decrease the costs.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I said it was nothing next to
the big three. I was just giving the numbers.
Everything I say doesn’t have to be an attack. I can tell by all of the words you’ve put into my mouth that you aren’t really paying attention to my point, but that’s fine. I never said drug testing would decrease costs. It would help prevent some abuses of the system which is a start. As I’ve said multiple times now, I want reform. I don’t want these programs to go away. As I said below I used unemployment myself. I understand that the majority of people need a hand and aren’t trying to take advantage, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to make the system better.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
I don't get it though
If it costs more money to stop the abuses than the abuses are causing, what is it a start at?
And I’m sorry if my arguments are coming off as attacks – I just really get tired of these arguments that reform is needed based on totally anecdotal incidents of perceived abuse.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Has it been proven that
it would cost more to stop welfare abuse then would be saved by stopping it?
One study about drug testing doesn’t prove either way. Especially considering broader reform.
Government officials should at least be making an attempt to find a better way. If nothing can be fixed then so be it, but the system is flawed and it does get exploited and just because you or anyone else is content with that doesn’t mean everyone is.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure
browse the GAO website – they are studying or have studied just about everything imaginable about government programs. I’m just making an assumption because to have drug testing you need to hire people to administer the tests effectively, you need to pay for transportation of the urine/blood to a lab, pay for the lab tests, pay for the processing and notifications – it seems almost impossible to me that all of that would cost less than the $300 a week saved from each unemployment abuser off the books.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
But I think this debate is symptomatic of a bigger problem
Republicans in generally seem awfully interested in cracking down on fraud/abuse of government funds when it’s poor people that are doing it, but much less interested when it’s rich people. Ideas like drug testing for welfare recipients catch fire, meanwhile the GOP is voting to cut funding for the IRS to go after tax evaders, swiss bank accounts, off-shore tax shelters, etc. The potential cost savings of catching a single tax cheat are gigantic compared to catching even a hundred welfare abusers, so the logic is hard to follow.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
by O'sFan21 on Jan 27, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't disagree.
But I also don’t hear any Dems preaching the idea of chasing down tax evaders. Perhaps I’m misinformed on that matter, but I haven’t seen or heard it.
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
That was a big part of Obama's state of the union on Tuesday.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Lol
go figure. I had a soccer game and haven’t watched it yet.
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
Did employees of AIG or the banks that
received bail out $$$ buy drugs via some of their paychecks? Yup. There are a million little rabbit holes you can descend down if you want to trace back how drug users got their $$$. Are you, in theory, ready to try and stamp all of that out?
I feel that there is always going to be drug use. We should do what we can to treat those who have a problem. But the idea that we could ever eliminate it in total is absurd, so I don’t worry about your theoretical druggie welfare recipient.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
You are going mad if you think that's a legitimate issue.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Its somewhat different in the employment context though
since you aren’t being compelled to work for the government. If its something you have a right to, its a much stronger argument.
And they aren't being compelled to hire you.
It’s a two way street.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Innocent of what?
If a guy smokes weed does that mean he can’t be a mechanic?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Any drug they'd be testing for is illegal anyways.
So no, I don’t believe it’s an invasion of privacy at all. Hell…I get drug tested by the government too since they pay my salary.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'm completely okay with it.
I think they’ve got a right since 1) they’re allowing me to access confidential material and 2) they’re paying my salary.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Unless a company have reason to believe what you do outside of work is affecting your work
I don’t think its any of their business
I think of it as a preventative measure.
Normally I’m pretty against government intrusion to anything, but in this case, if they’re allowing me to hold a clearance and work in a position where I’ve got access to intelligence etc, then yea…they can do what they want. All they need is some screwball to fuck around and leak FOUO stuff to whover.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
'some screwball' could be anyone they hire
not just a person who happens to use illicit substances in their free time
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, if you go home and smoke a joint, that doesn't make you want to release gov't secrets all of the sudden.
And most gov’t employees aren’t going to be the type of people who light up some Meth during a lunch break.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
I don't smoke, but I don't really care if people do as long as they do it in their own home.
You could have replaced booze with pot in that example.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
And again what harm will a drug using welfare recipient cause?
Are they going to leak the check’s routing number?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
see my above response to WW
I’ve never made the argument that you, or govt. employees in general should be drug tested. It’s an invasion of privacy regardless.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
No it isnt
I signed a contract that waives my right. Feel otherwise? Don’t work for the government or take any money from them.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
The courts, thankfully, have tended to disagree with your position
and have declared it an invasion.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Ummmm..... than why am I still being tested?
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
for welfare recipients they have indicated it to be an invasion in a few cases
employer related drug tested is kosher. I don’t care for it, but the courts are ok with it. My point was in re welfare recipients.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Why?
I knowingly signed it. Why shouldn’t I be held accountable for everything in that contract? If I don’t like the policy, nobody forced me to sign.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, he's agreeing with us.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
lol, twisted was in a Blind Santourm Rage there.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
mmmmmm....PBR
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
I just pissed a frothy mix of Dogfish 60 min IPA
Shit…I probably just scared off another gaggle of ladies.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
The gaggles left a long time ago I think.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yea....people with lives don't hang out here at 11pm.
Which reminds me….I’ve got an 8am meeting tomorrow (yea…fuckers schedule shit on Friday morning), so I ought to hit the hay. It’s been real though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
If TL is gone, I'm out...
On your own Knubles…
GO get em sport!
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I heard republicans aren't allowed to because it makes Jesus sad.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
Ah yes
all republicans are religious. No democrats are. Sometimes I forget.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
The way Repubs carry on about 'The War on Christmas'
you could get that impression.
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by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 27, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
More than that.
Doubting evolution and suspicion of Islam isn’t accepted among many Democrats. It’s not fair to Republicans who don’t embrace those views, but it seems like they’ve almost become core tenets of mainstream Republicanism.
one of the main reason im not a republican
is because of the way theology is presented in the republican media.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 27, 2012 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
The media is 99% of the problem.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Well,
it’s pretty apparent that Newt Gingrich hates Muslims and thinks that the government should be built on Christian values, yet he’s seriously being considered as a nominee for President.I don’t think that’s the media’s fault. Maybe the media is at fault for how such topics are presented, though (the mosque from 2010, for example). I do hope that fundamentalism loses its grip on the GOP.
I also think that Newt Gingrich
doesn’t represent the majority of Republicans. I don’t think any of these candidates do.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
But the vast majority of them will vote for him if he's the nominee
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Because he better represents
them than Barack Obama.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
I still don't get how
people don’t realize BO is a moderate or at least, his policies have been that of a moderate.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 27, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
Then they aren't moderates.
Or they are confused on a great many of the issues.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Unfortunately for Repubs like myself
most of the ones in the spotlight happen to put their religious views front and center.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
It is unfortunate
I have conservative friends that complain about the shit they get as a result of their elected officials and public figures, but then they vote for them so I don’t have much sympathy.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Hardly anyone 100% agrees
with who they vote for. You have to choose the best candidate in your eyes. I disagree with just about everything conservative that involves religion, but I disagree with a majority of left wing political beliefs. I have to choose what is more important to me. And generally I can look past the religion. The extreme right has taken charge of the Repubs even though the majority of Americans, dem or repub, are moderates.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
We saw that with the question asked towards the end.
I thought Ron Paul had the best answer. But the other 3 clearly don’t get the whole separation of church and state thing.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 27, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
I only caught the last question.
I was just about in bed, but I came out and flicked on the tv for a sec. Look where that got me? I have to get up at 5:30, lol.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
It was about how religion would influence their politics.
As they went down the line from Paul to Romney to Newt to Rick, the answers got more and more religious.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 27, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
jesus
I don’t know how you do that. I’m admittedly on a horrible sleeping schedule, but I had 9 AM meetings every day this week and I am absolutely dying. I’m sleeping until 11 tomorrow.
By the way we got a new pit puppy foster that is driving me insane.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I don't do this normally.
I might call out tomorrow. Pics of puppy?
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
Even better (and more ridiculous)
the wife put together a blog to try to help get him adopter ASAP lol:
http://www.finkelfosters.blogspot.com/
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
That's a good looking pup.
Our hands are still full with our new dog and she is supposedly damn near 2 now. She is a work of art for sure. I see a lot of boxer in her now, so I’m sure the energy comes from there.
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah man
we are just not equipped for puppies – that one you sent our way was the last one we had and she was WAY calmer than this guy. He literally does not lay down ever unless he is in his crate.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Lol.
Ours is worst in the middle of the night. If she is ready to wake up, it’s time for everyone to wake up.
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 6:15 AM EST up reply actions
He said it doesn't make it right.
I think me signing a contract allowing it makes it perfectly right.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Ahhhhh
Ok, yeah, fuck kba then.
LOL
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Well, there is a strong argument that employment contracts involve substantially unequal bargaining power
especially in poor economic conditions, you take whatever job you can get. Its not frequently possible to just get a different job. Total freedom of contract, though its making a comeback, disappeared decades ago. Courts can strike down terms of a contract where one party uses its superior position to extract unfair terms from the other.
It's also extremely easy to pass a drug test
and most hardcore drug users no this. Outside of when I was in the Marines, I’ve never had someone watch to make sure that MY urine was what was going into that cup.
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
OMG
know. know. know.
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Well isn't this an argument against drug testing then?
If its so easy to beat, then its just a waste of money
Precisely
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'm all for the right of an employer to drug test his employees.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
In it's current form.
The people issuing the drug test probably don’t give a fuck who passes or not so they don’t worry about it. If someone was paying attention to the tested then it would be harder to fake the test. Get caught cheating, instant fail. Bye bye benefits.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, I get some airman all up in my junk while I do it.
He practically holds the thing.
(CC after hours? We good?)
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
You just scared off at least a dozen ladies that were going to join CC.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, all the chicks lurking just hit CTRL + X and bounced.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Lol.
Unfortunately I’ve been on both sides of this.
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Samesies... I get pulled for "observer duty" from time to time.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
I believe the term is ''meat gazer''
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
I have never had to do that.
And hopefully never will.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
so that's why you manscape...
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Really?
For my most recent check, I basically had the guy holding the cup for me.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
The whole idea of people choosing welfare/foodstamps out of laziness is almost entirely myth
It’s just a good slogan the Republicans have found worked well. “Welfare queens” and shit – just don’t exist in any meaningful numbers.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
You really think that poor Americans aren't getting jobs because they are lazy?
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
You'd be pretty naive to think otherwise.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
I mean, sure, some of them are just lazy.
But only a small portion of the whole.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, I wouldn't go this far
It’s obviously not an all or none thing. Obviously there are plenty of people using the system as a crutch and there are plenty of people that NEED the assistance legitimately.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Of course it isn't all or none.
The number using it as a crutch is still too high. Personally, I’d like that number to be zero, but as long as we keeping handing it out, that won’t happen.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
For someone who's extremely liberal, I'm atypically not a fan of entitlement programs
i want massive government spending, but i want it spent in areas where private business is not incentive to act or where there are economies of scale on a national level, primarily infrastructure. I think we benefit far more from investing in things like high-speed rail, electric car charging stations, and high speed internet, than we are collecting money and passing it back out.
BOOM
Come on over KBA!!! I have a nice incentive package for you if you pull a jumpin jeffers.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Do you have some stats about how high the number using it as a crutch is?
I’m curious how you know it’s “too high.” And how you know that these people are in fact using it as a crutch.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
No not really.
Just like you don’t have any stats stating the opposite. Just go talk to people. I live in a lower class area and I talk to plenty of people who will tell you to your face that they don’t get a job because unemployment is too sweet of a gig. Walk into my local grocery store and watch people in line use their Independence cards and what-have-you to buy oreos and prime rib and then hop into their Escalade and drive home. Or how about multiple people that I work with who tell the government that they are separated from their wives so that the wife and children can receive free state health care?
Fact of the matter is that we could go on about this all day and all night, but we are never going to agree.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
There actually are stats stating the opposite
I don’t want to get to personal here, but my wife just rotated off the team charged with analyzing statistics about who is receiving welfare and food assistance, how long they are on it, what their job seeking behavior is, etc. If you want to read it it’s on the GAO website.
This is the thing about a lot of these debates – there really are actual honest to goodness statistics to reference, but most people just aren’t interested in putting in the time. Saying things like “Just go talk to people” or “I saw a guy buying lobster tail with food stamps while driving an escalade” is just so much easier than taking the time to realize that these are the absolute anomalies and the vast majority of welfare/food assistance recipients are single mothers who are employed but who’s income don’t allow them to provide adequate food, clothing, housing, and healthcare for their families without some additional help. I always find it interesting that the party that’s so keen on everybody having babies is so quick to slash the assistance that goes to them – from head state to food stamps.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
If you go back to the beginning of the argument
instead of cherry picking comments to attack, you will see where I clearly stated
Not all of them.
Not even a majority of them. I think the number is increasing by the day though.
Think would of course imply that it is my personal opinion.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Even if only 10%
of those receiving government assistance are abusing the system then it is a problem.
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
If the system is 90% effective I'm cool with that.
No system is perfect, that’s better than pulling the system out and letting everyone starve to death.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Not one person has said to eliminate the system.
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
So should it be 0%?
Should the government have a new agency to track down people using unemployment/welfare/food stamps inappropriately and cut them off? I’d actually be all for that if it meant hiring more unemployed people, but I’m guessing you’re not since it would be growing the government and increasing government spending since it would cost a hell of a lot more in salaries than anybody is getting in government support.
Part of the reason there’s ANY welfare/foodstamp/unemployment abuse at all is because government at all levels has been gutted by Republican administrations for decades and they barely have enough staff to keep up with demand let alone investigate inappropriate access.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
And I asked for evidence of that.
And you said there wasn’t evidence of either argument which is 100% false.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Okay, I've mostly stayed out of this argument.
But whether or not that number is increasing isn’t a matter of opinion.
the number of people receiving food stamps is supposed to grow during a recession
that’s kind of how the idea works.
am i even on topic? i have no idea what ’m actually responding to
Not technically,
but that number isn’t exactly something that you can find with a poll. Based on my personal experience my opinion is that number is growing. Since neither side can prove either way, it comes down to opinion.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Count me as firmly in the camp
that believes making policy decisions based on your personal opinion is absolutely ridiculous and frankly I think it’s ridiculous to even vote that way when there are statistics that say otherwise. Nobody is suggesting any type of polling – in order to get any of these government benefits you have to submit a shitload of information that is tracked and analyzed – that’s where the data is. It DOES NOT come down to opinion.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
It took me five minutes on the internet to get unemployment
and a further five minutes every two weeks to get my check.
So you don’t think that social welfare needs any reform whatsoever?
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Who said that? I just don't think it needs drug testing.
And I don’t think social welfare reform should be a priority especially if the outcome is people getting less benefits during a terrible economy.
I’m not sure what your point about how little time it took you to get it was – was that supposed to imply that you can’t get meaningful information from the process?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
It was to say that you do not have to
“submit a shitload of information” to receive unemployment. Initial application requires (outside of name, ssn, and address) your work history for the previous year. That’s it. Every two weeks I had to answer the following:
Did you attend school during normal work hours?
Did you work at all during this period?
If so, how much did you earn?
Did you attempt to find work during this period?
When you don’t have to speak to anyone or show references and there isn’t any type of follow up, where is this meaningful information coming from?
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
The shitload of information comment
was primarily about foodstamps and actual welfare, but when my buddy got fired and was on unemployment he had to show proof that he was seeking work (job applications). That kind of thing varies state to state though. But even the data that you had to provide can inform lots of analyses unless your assumption is that that majority of people are just lying on their applications.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Fair enough.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
Isn't the system designed to be used 'as a crutch', though?
You use a crutch to heal after you’ve have some bad fortune befall you. Then you stop using the crutch once healed. Isn’t that sort of the point of public assistance programs? Certainly there is abuse. But there is also plenty of abuse by military contractors. I’d like to see that abuse stamped out.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I think 99 weeks is a long time to be on crutches.
My sister has had a shit ton of advantages and lived off unemployment for two years while driving around a brand new fucking infiniti while constantly turning down jobs she wasn’t interested in.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
I drive a brand new fucking....used oldsmobile.
Let me tell ya too…chick MAGNET. They love the olds.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
I think 99 weeks is a long time to not be able to provide for your family
but if you cut the MASSIVE number of unemployed people off from being able to buy groceries then there will be more unemployed people and more unemployed people. I think people often overlook the fact that unemployment insurance is not just designed to support individuals who have lost their jobs, but to maintain some level of consumer spending even in times of high unemployment and avoid further economy deterioration.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Which reminds me.
Every Rep. is taking about cutting gov’t spending and at the same time they appear more than willing to keep the war in Afghan. going and go to war with Iran. Maybe instead of slashing programs which help the poor people in America we should cut and streamline our military budget.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Um, haven't you been paying attention?
The DoD budget has been completely SLASHED in the past couple years. We have meetings on it no less than 2-3 times a week about how much we have to cut out. I’m talking HUNDREDS of millions just at my location.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
The DoD budget continues to grow, from what I've read and heard via radio/TV
the rate of it’s growth is just being constrained. That’s not ‘slashing’. What Ron Paul would do, would be ‘slashing’.
But, I freely admit to not being an expert on this. Just reporting back what I have heard/read.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
But it also has been going up by a bunch since Obama took over.
I think we should keep cutting it, bring the troops home, put that money into care for Veterans and make sure we make our intelligence system more effective.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Well when you end 50% of your gigantic and expensive wars, I should hope so.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Not all of them.
Not even a majority of them. I think the number is increasing by the day though.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Evidence of that increasing number of people who do that?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I will say this, Newt is correct that a matchup between him and Obama would result in a
huge margin of defeat
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 9:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Listening to Rick trying to actually explain why he could beat Obama is comedy gold.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:00 PM EST reply actions
He really is a horrible speaker.
I have no idea what he just said.
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
I really hate that, even in the middle of freakin winter..
I can’t find anywhere in my house cold enough to ferment beer (minus the garage which is too cold).
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I've tried that to mixed results.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
What temperature are you looking for?
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
64
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Can you afford (or do you have the space for) a used refrigerator/freezer and an electronic temperature controller?
You can probably have both for $250ish.
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
That's what I'm going to do.
I just haven’t gotten around to buying the fridge yet. Got find one that’ll fit my fermenter. I’m brewing on Saturday though, so it’ll have to wait until next time.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
I've seen some set ups that involve
a very large cooler with the temperature controlled using ice and gallon jugs of water. You’ll be spending a significant amount of time each day maintaining your temp, but it is possible. Unfortunately, I can’t seem to find anything like this online at this second to give you an idea of what I’m talking about.
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Done the ice baths too.
I’ve tried it all….most of those methods are just a pain in the ass. The ice bath required adding ice every day because the water warmed up so fast.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yea I don't imagine that would be fun.
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
attic?
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
by Zeke McGeek on Jan 26, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Can't get up there easily.
It’d be a bitch trying to carry a ten gal fermenter up there.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Does Mrs. Santorum know about her son's 'google problem'?
Inquiring minds want to know.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
John King assumes Rick Santorum's 93-year-old mother doesn't have twitter
thats probably a safe assumption
I can't believe all you libs actually watch the debates...
I couldn’t bear to watch a second of any of em and I’m a repub. Such a waste of time.
Let’s just wait until they come up with a candidate and then I’ll watch them spar off against Obummer.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:11 PM EST reply actions
STOP SPELLING HIS NAME WRONG
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
I can't wait until they have to use real facts and speak rationally.
That should be fun. When they call Obama a socialist to his face.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
When have Reps been forced to use real facts and speak rationally?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I enjoy Theater of the Absurd
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Significantly easier to have a debate after hours, eh?
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:50 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, I feel EQUAL!!!
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
I guess you conservatives don't have jobs to wake up for tomorrow. Lazy freeloaders!
(kidding)
by ahoque24 on Jan 26, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sheeeeeeeeeeeit, we're all heading off to our DoD jobs bro!
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
BOOM!
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by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I, for one, am a military contractor.
I’m going to conduct some illegal business tomorrow and rape the feds for billions! Suck it, unemployment line! I’ve got private jets to buy!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I just hope my Halliburton stock rises tomorrow.
If it’s down around lunchtime I’ll make up some rumor about Muslims or something…
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
Sucking from the government's teet.
Drain on the private sector.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
by O'sFan21 on Jan 26, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If you have any softcore porn you wanted to share, post it now!
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
As long as you don't mention anyone being "hot," you should be fine.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
She has great... intangibles
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
self policing is optional after hours.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I'm the master debater
#CCAFTERHOURS
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Oddly ironic statement.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
that is supposed to read as me calling him a dick.
Not me just randomly saying dick
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
OsFan21 just woke up!!!!!!! REDSTATERS RUUUUUUUUUN!!!!!
(scurries out the door)
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:01 PM EST reply actions
Yea bro.....gone is reasonable debate!
I’m out. Later folks.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jan 26, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Reasonable Debate.
Like when Mitt Romney said Obama was turning America into a European Social Welfare State.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
They've literally invented a fictional character to run against.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Did you know Muslim Socialist Lefty Commie Obama is helping Manuel Noriega?
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
You missed the Marxist label
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Right,
B/c as was pointed out at the debate, if our president isn’t religious he can take away our freedom whenever he wants.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
The best part is,
it is impossible to be a secret Muslim. ahhh, facts.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a difference?
No, really, Newt warned us that soon the country will be a secular atheist one dominated by Islamic radicalists.
The same Islamic radicals in South America that Obama is helping because he is supporting the Marxist regimes of Castro and Chavez?
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, man.
Obama went to the same madrassa as Castro and Chavez where they were taught about the importance of atheist views.
Asking for facts to back up generalizations - insanity!!!!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Oh hey, the republican debate is back on
anyone want to start all these arguments over from the top?
So the big question is,
Would you give up these debates to have more commenter come baseball season?
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think political debates are at all the same as what was being discussed earlier
but i don’t really want to get into that again
If Republicans decide to make drug testing for food stamps a core campaign message..
may as well concede another 4 years to Obama right now.
LOL
I’m not even REMOTELY passionate about the subject. I think I may have even started it but I was being tongue and cheek just to celebrate the ever so temporary conservative majority for like two minutes. I was just ribbing and then it got involved… not uncommon I guess.
But yeah, its like #112 on my list of issues I care about.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
heh....I took the bait. I just hate the concept of drug-testing.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 26, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
I'm glad to hear that you're not passionate about it
That makes me feel better. Seriously.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I could really care less
i really got going when I thought he said in principle he didn’t give a shit if it was happening. I mean, I can see making cases for it not being fiscally a big deal, but don’t say that in theory you wouldn’t have a problem with someone using welfare bucks to get high with.
But yeah, I spend literally less than 30 seconds a year thinking about this.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly
if there was a way to make sure nobody was using welfare dollars to buy drugs or guns or underage hookers and child porn, I’d be all for it, but I just don’t see how it’s possible without increasing costs which seems like the whole point of considering it in the first place.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yeah, that was bombastic on my part.
I ain’t immune from it!
But I did attempt to clarify a couple of times.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 27, 2012 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
But it's perfectly ok for you to be passionate about the opposite opinion?
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
I'm passionate about defending anything from baseless attack.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
But you seem to think that anything that isn't of your opinion
is a baseless attack.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
It might seem that way to you, but I think that's a generalization.
You specifically said that you wanted policy reforms based on your personal opinion based on an anecdotal experiences – that’s a totally baseless attack.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
The majority of our opinions are formed from
personal observation. I happen to have seen these types of abuses in masses. I think that it is far more than a baseless attack.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
In masses?
And I think it’s a shame that the majority of some people’s opinions are formed from personal observation rather than actual analyses and data. The good news is that’s probably going to occur less and less as non-data based decision making will continue to falter in comparison to the alternative – as has been seen in business and sports. The general public will catch on too eventually.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Where I live there is an extremely large amount
of people on government aide. My story about the food stamps and Escalades isn’t a one time thing. I can go to the grocery store any day of the week and if 20 people are in line, 10 of them are using food stamps. That’s just how it is in my area. Out of those 10, 7 or so of them have designer jeans on, or their hair and nails done, or buy filet mignon instead of ground beef, or go out to a brand new car in the parking lot. I mean what is wrong with only allowing food stamps to be used on the cheaper store brand foods? Or limiting you from spending $200 on snack food? Just because I base my opinion on personal observation doesn’t make it invalid. I see this stuff every single day. There is plenty of merit to it.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
It makes it purely personal observation
and an unbelievably micro small sample size. And I would argue there’s still a lot you don’t know about what you see – the designer jeans could easily be knock offs, their friends could do their hair/nails, it could be their uncles escalade, etc. There’s certainly merit to what you’re seeing, but then taking what you’re seeing and advocating for policy changes is not reasonable.
All that said I agree with you about limiting uses – I’d be all for limiting it to healthy/cheap items, but I’m also in favor of jacking up taxes on unhealthy shit in general and subsidizing producers of healthy foods and grocery stores that offer healthy options in poor neighborhoods (a serious problem).
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I have long thought there was a need for a soda tax.
It would never in a million years happen though.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 27, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
shit man
they can’t even reform school lunches enough so that pizza doesn’t get counted as a serving of vegetables.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I know.
It’s sad and pathetic. People don’t seem to care if half our kids are waddley little fat sacks in fact the usual reaction is… “aw, that’s cute, what a chubby kid!.” Until we get some serious gov’t reform, the food producers will just keep pumping the shit into our system. The obesity numbers are just awful in America.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 27, 2012 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of soda
Im appalled at how cheap it is compared to other options. I quit soda for new years. I used to be an 8 can a day guy but i havent had drop since dec 30. Ive been drinking snapple, fuse, water with those flavor packets. It wasnt too hard to stop but when i go tot the market for fruit juice and beverages im just disgusted that the healthier drinks cost 8.99 a 6 pack when you can buy 3 12 packs of soda for that price…its disgusting.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 27, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
8 cans a day?!?
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
Kidney stones much?
haha
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 27, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
that was on a slow day.
ive been known to take a 12 pack a day. and i work part time at a fast food place with free unlimited soda…it was bad..i had to stop. it was making me sick.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 27, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
It could happen.
Look at how long it took between the time that people realized how bad cigarettes are for health and when they started being taxed heavily. Compare that to when people started talking about how terrible soda is and in time we could see a tax on it as well.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
That's true
all this shit takes WAY too long because of all the vested interests.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Well, since most people are going to go to sleep soon,
it’s up to you to talk about Robert Andino, Helen Mirren, and mailroom girl for over 200 comments.
I didn't want WW hijacking it before it was finished so I had to rush
I appreciate the help though
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You sound like my wife
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Can I have half his recs, I don't feel like working for them anymore.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
No deal, keep your motherfucking recs.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeit
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
OK guys...
It’s 10:45 and you’re still posting comments too fast for me to catch up.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:42 PM EST reply actions
Everyone who is still here
Call this number:
719-266-2837
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:43 PM EST reply actions
Haha... Hall&Oats
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Whoever made this is the kind of person whom I like.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Non-controversial political tidbit that should blow your mind.
This story sounds too impossible to be true, but it is. John Tyler was born in 1790, and he was the 10th president of the United States in 1841. Believe it or not, he has two living grandchildren. For perspective consider this: When Tyler was born, George Washington was giving his State of the Union address. When Tyler became president, the civil war was still 20 years away! But how is this possible? Here’s some math for you: Tyler had 15 children, and in 1853 he was 63 when his son Lyon Gardiner Tyler was born. Lyon had six children, with two of them, Harrison Ruffin Tyler and Lyon Gardiner Tyler Jr., born when he was in his 70s in 1924 and 1928 respectively. Both men, now in their 80s, still live in Virginia
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Whigs were total assholes though
Debate like it’s 1840
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, it's like 11:50, this feels like a logic problem.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 26, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
one train leaves chicago at 10:48 with Lyon Gardiner Tyler Jr onboard...
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Saw that earlier today.
Absolutely amazing.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 26, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry, dont know how to make something like this smaller.
But I figured worrying about this, when there are 2000 other comments, would be like worrying about food stamps causing our debt problem.
Just because it is late doesn't mean teh rules just vanish.
Width=300 please, you have been warned. As one of the few admins left, I am getting a little power happy, if anybody wants comments hidden just let me know.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
HEY
DON’T PISS OFF THE MODS ASSHOLE!
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Twitter Update:
BALTIMORE — The Orioles announced the coaching staffs for each of their seven Minor League affiliates on Thursday, with several new additions, highlighted by Triple-A Norfolk manager Ron Johnson.
And roger Ebert says lay off Demi Moore.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 26, 2012 11:59 PM EST reply actions
You got no iiiiice cream, you got no iiiiiice cream
You can’t afforrrrrrd it, cuz you’re on the welllllllllfare
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
You can't afford it! You can't afford it!
Want a lick? PYSCH!
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 27, 2012 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Well it has been a blast
but I seriously need to go. I’m gonna struggle tomorrow.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 1:10 AM EST reply actions
Holy 1900 comments.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
done.
1900.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Jan 27, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
It's only 10 for me
Anyone want to discuss gun control?
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 27, 2012 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
I was thinking just Glocs, that way we can defend our personal freedom! Someone tries to steal your food stamps, BLAM!
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 27, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
Did you mean glock...
…enspiel?
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 27, 2012 1:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd recommend ...
… a shotgun for home intruder protection.
I think owning a rifle and being competent with it should be almost mandatory, but fat chance of that happening. At least in Maryland. (PS – where is Duck when you need him?)
My personal choice is that most people don’t really need need a hand gun, but I don’t feel a hissy fit coming on when I see someone carrying.
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests".
- Patrick Henry –
haha
I find the opposite to be the case. I think if you are worried about someone breaking into your home you need some sort of tranq. gun. You don’t need to kill someone for breaking into your home. Of course it depends on where you live. Some places a burglar might be a meth head who could do all sorts of crazy shit. Then again it could just be a run of the mill thief. I suppose with a shotgun a kid can’t pick it up and shoot himself in the face.
And I don’t want to be anywhere near anyone with a gun and not anywhere some nut with an AR-15 on his shoulder at a political rally.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 27, 2012 2:17 AM EST up reply actions
I think you have a misinformed point of view.
Fortunately, most B& E’s are done when the resident(s) are not home. So the chance of a confrontation is not high. This also means that if the person breaking in has misjudged and discovers someone is home, they usually flee.
BUT – it is also often the case that once in, the first thing they do is go to the kitchen and arm themselves. If faced with a homeowner with a firearm, they will flee and hopefully for you they will be dumb enough to mistake a trank gun for the real thing.
As the saying goes, never bring a gun to a knife fight. The next sentence is never bring a gun to any kind of fight without the willingness to use it. If you feel you could not pull the trigger on a person, do not go half way with something like a tranquilizer gun.
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests".
- Patrick Henry –
...
I miss Sean Taylor
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 27, 2012 2:29 AM EST up reply actions
Just don't take any guns outside of your home into my sphere of living.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 27, 2012 3:02 AM EST up reply actions
Or what? You’ll tranquilize me?
You do know there is this little thing called the 2nd Amendment? If you don’t like the idea of people carrying a firearm, I believe it’s your problem, not theirs.
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests".
- Patrick Henry –
Depends how you interpret it
I haven’t seen many well armed militias, but I have seen some jackass carrying a holstered glock while taking his kids shopping at target.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
So he's a jackass because he is carrying?
Another example of you denigrating anyone who believes different from you?
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests".
- Patrick Henry –
To Target with his kids?
Yes. And I’m denigrating his actions, not his beliefs.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
To use your analogy below
since guns are just like baseball bats or kitchen knives – would you think somebody was a jackass if they were carrying around a butcher knife or baseball bat for protection in target while shopping with their kids?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Target man. Shit goes down in Target.
Gotta stay strapped at all times, get ready to lay motherfuckers down in the plastics aisle.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 31, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
I completely agree with this
And I don’t want to be anywhere near anyone with a gun
I obviously have little to input on this since I don’t live in the US anymore, but guns just cause problems. Unlike here, you don’t really need to walk around with a gun all the time. And here it’s mostly off-duty soldiers all over the place.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 27, 2012 3:51 AM EST up reply actions
Israel.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 27, 2012 6:56 AM EST up reply actions
Guns no more cause problems ...
… than pipe wrenches, kitchen utensils or baseball bats.
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests".
- Patrick Henry –
Sure
if you took all the problems caused by all those things you just mentioned and multiplied them by 10,000. There’s lots of accidental baseball bat deaths every year of course…
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I don't know what happened, officer...
Timmy was holding the baseball bat (you know, just messing around) and it just went off!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I should probably clarify.
There is a difference between need and want. (A basic principle that JA starts out with – btw)
That I don’t think most people “need” a Hand gun is not the same as thinking it is wrong to “want” one. They are a lot of fun to shoot and I own several. I’ve never felt the need to carry one on a regular basis.
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests".
- Patrick Henry –
India
which is why I’m rarely on the gamethreads during baseball season. I’m at work in the morning by then.
@sibsinExile
CC actually has a pretty cool geographical selection.
How did you end up being an O’s fan in India?
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 27, 2012 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
Cause I've live most my life in MD
I actually moved here on a job… so I actually haven’t been to a baseball game in probably 2 years I think.
@sibsinExile
Where what other major places do we have representation?
It’d be cool if we had random fans from like Japan and DR giving us crazy insider info.
@sibsinExile
Off the top of my head.
India
Russia
Nova Scotia
Israel
IIRC, A user named Afghanistan Steve was in Afghanistan
And then all over the U.S.
DCO’sfan is moving to Poland too I think.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 27, 2012 2:13 AM EST up reply actions
Sure.
With practice, almost anyone can learn to control a gun and hit what hey are aiming at.
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests".
- Patrick Henry –
12:54 AM and finally leaving the office
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
WTF
I just came off 8 days of storm duty – 400,000 customers without power, some having to wait 8 days. So I check in to see if any big news on the O’s before getting my first full night’s sleep and I see close to 2,000 comments – about what?
Wilson Bemetite (or however you spell his name) is signed and the O’s each a deal on Andino. For this many comments I would have expected Cal to have bought the team and Cliff Lee signed along with Big Albert. Must be a slow day in charm city.
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests".
- Patrick Henry –
Which is probably why I've commented only a dozen times over that time.
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests".
- Patrick Henry –
12 of these comments have to do with Betemit/Andino.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 27, 2012 6:19 AM EST up reply actions
Shhhh... don't just say "hot chicks"!
Use code: “You like ripe apricots? [wink wink]”
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 27, 2012 6:57 AM EST up reply actions
please. No one liked hot chick
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Jan 27, 2012 7:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
19 year old me found Anna Faris to be an incredibly ripe apricot in that movie
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
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