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Tuesday Bird Droppings

Before we get to baseball, congratulations to Knubles and Bits for winning the whole enchilada in CC Pick 'Em. His 14 correct picks in week 17 catapulted him to victory, just one point ahead of Astronaut Mike Dexter. It was a great season, thanks to everyone who played!

Now, baseball. Late last night rumblings began that Coco Crisp might be on the verge of signing with the Orioles. It started with rabblerouser Jon Heyman. Roch then addressed the rumor by saying a whole lot about nothing. Steve Melewski jumped in to the discussion on the Twitter, and Scott Swaim of @MLBInsideNews (whoever that is) is again saying that Adam Jones might be on his way to Atlanta. And to top it all off, Coco Crisp is also having a little bit of fun, making his profile picture on Twitter a picture of an adorable kid (possibly Coco himself) in an Orioles uniform. Although to be fair, last night was the first night I ever looked at Crisp's Twitter, maybe that's always been his picture.

If the rumors are true, you have to think Adam Jones is being traded. Heyman suggests the possibility that Jones could move to left field, but it seems unlikely to me. If he does, though, that'd allow Nolan Reimold to fill the DH position which is also a need for the Orioles. Exciting stuff, stay tuned!

In other Orioles news...

Brady Anderson Official Website - Baltimore Orioles Hall of Fame Centerfielder
Seems worth mentioning that Brady Anderson now has a website.

Manny Machado pleased club evaluators during his first full season. | orioles.com
Jonathan Mayo takes a look at Machado's first season in professional baseball.

Orioles have "interest" in Hisashi Iwakuma | School of Roch
Will the Orioles sign another thirty-year old pitcher from Japan?

Orioles expected to hire Rick Peterson, Chris Correnti | baltimoresun.com
Sounds like good news to me. Good info in here on Peterson and Correnti and what they would bring to the Orioles.

Interview with New Oriole Infielder Matt Antonelli | Baltimore Sports Report
Antonelli talks to BSR about joining the Orioles, his off season routine, and more.

Trading Adam Jones: AL East Edition | Camden Depot
The series continues...

Birds O' Pray: Please, Don't Get Crisp With Me
This guy is very anti-Crisp. I think you have to see the whole picture before you can make that decision, personally.

strains, heartbreak, and redemptiOn | The Wayward Oriole
Wayward's great year in review. It was posted in the comments but I wanted to get it on the front page. My apologies for it taking so long. Duck passed it along to me but then I went out of town. A good read.

Next week’s Cooperstown election results today | Hardball Times
Chris Jaffe predicts the Hall of Fame results, which of course include on the ballot former Orioles Javy Lopez and Rafael Palmeiro (spoiler: he doesn't think either makes it)

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Glad the Jones deal has not gone off. I just returned from Europe and was autoposting the columns.

Note…Budapest = Awesome. Prague and Vienna were cool as well.

by crawdaddy on Jan 3, 2012 7:49 AM EST reply actions  

we should compare notes!

I was in all of those places over Thanksgiving.

Budapest kicked ass. Did you go to the baths?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoa, a 5-1 bowl day to start Wk 3. Hello, Bahamas vacation bureau?

’Course, it shoulda been (here we go) 6-0, but GA choked — so the Big Dim actually won a bowl game.

Oh yeah, and spkg of choking, hard to watch STA do exactly what they wanted and…lose. Your all-conf kicker misses 3 [three], incl. the game-winning chip. Huh. Well, now you know how Boise felt.

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 3, 2012 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

I did pretty well too.

I did have MSU winning that game. Sadly, I went with Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Looks like we missed a CC party at 1AM last night

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

apparently

i was well passed out by then cause i had a little bit too much monday funday

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah...I see.

100 comments after I stopped following.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Did we?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

So the Skins have the 6th/7th pick in the draft

I’m voting that they trade down since there isn’t a QB worth that pick. Pick up some other draft picks and upgrade that secondary.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 9:08 AM EST reply actions  

now you're assuming that the redskins will do something smart

more realistic scenarios of what will happen?
- trade picks along with next 8 first round picks to Indy for Manning
- sign Matt Flynn to $130MM contract
- reach for RG3 and someone else, both flame out

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

My peoples in DC are already talking about how awesome RG3 would be

The Matt Flynn option made me LOL

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

i mean, you know some team is going to vastly overpay for him after that last game

and good ole Danny-boy loves his free agent signings…

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't see him as a first round pick, but stranger things have happened.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

All of the mock drafts have Landry Jones and RG3 as top 10 picks.

Seriously?? Jones wasn’t even that good against college competition and Griffin is the product of a spread offense.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

there's a lack of good QB's out there man

how do you think Gabbert ended up in the top 10 last year? teams get desperate looking for that “franchise” guy and start to become more enamored with these guys as the draft gets closer.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea, good point.

I’m sure a bunch of QBs are gonna way higher than they should. I just hope Cleveland trades up for Griffin.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope they don't get another QB

I’m gonna miss reading “Fuck it I’m going deep” 37 times every Sunday in the NFL Threads.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Grossman says he can fix his INT woes for next season.

Umm yea. Sure. Whatever you say, Rexy.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

It's January

That stuff will change vastly over the next few months.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Griffin may be the result of a spread offense...

… but he put up very good numbers, even for that type of offense. He displayed exceptional accuracy at 72.4% completion. He blitzed TCU for an extremely efficient 21/27, 359 yards, and 5 TDs. His worst game, by far, was against Oklahoma State (a national championship contender) when he went 33/50, 346 yards, 1 TD, and 2 INTs. Baylor’s defense was awful this year and with a less efficient offense, they get destroyed every game. Griffin’s also got some mobility (remember that sacks are taken out of his rushing numbers).

I’m not saying Griffin is going to be the next Drew Brees, but he’s as good of a QB as you’ll find in the top ten outside of Luck. If he were to be there with the Redskins up, they should absolutely take him. I’m pretty sure that it’s less of a gamble than normal, as the new CBA includes firmer slotting for draft contracts.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know

RG3 is an incredible athlete – lots of comps to Vick and Newton and he’s arguably a better passer than either were at the time of the draft.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't remotely trust spread QBs.

The Manning trade is scary though. It’s something the Skins would definitely do.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Two "Manning Bowls" a year!

Media frenzy!

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha....didn't even think about that.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

not really...

they’ve drafted well under allen/shanny and traded down a bunch last year.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea...they got Trent Williams.

Great pick.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

oooo, burn.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Ironically, "burn" is the correct word for the situation.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

what am i missing?

trent williams was a fanstastic pick. the pot thing will blow over.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

see how it shakes out

a lot can change between now and the draft and there might be either a QB that appears likely at 6/7 or another player that emerges that’s so good it makes sense to take him. Otherwise I like the idea of adding picks since they have so many fucking holes – secondary, receivers, o-line, etc.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't get it anymore. Depth - yes. Signing a bunch of random unsuccessful SPs? No.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Jurrjens!

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

barf

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Gah.

I want to keep living in this world where DD hasn’t made any massively discouraging moves. I know it’s going to come crashing down sooner or later, but for now, it’s warm and comfortable.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

10 man rotation, here we come!

We are going to be trend setters.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

The shotgun approach...

I don’t actually object to it, so long as the contracts are reasonable. Signing ten mediocre starting pitchers for $10 million a year would be stupid, but we’re going to be getting these guys for $2 – $5 a year. My guess is one would get traded in Spring Training when some club loses a guy for two months to a “sore shoulder” and panics. Then a couple perform moderately well for a few months of the regular season and we flip them for prospects.

If we turn $30 million in salary into 1) a couple of guys that can take at least some pressure off of our bullpen and 2) turn into depth for the farm system, I think that’s worth it.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

It also would further solidify the impression in my mind

that DD and Buck intend to park Matusz, and possibly Tillman, in AAA for the entire MiLB year. Basically telling them, ‘Get your shit together, then you come back.’

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd be okay with that

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

why the hate for maholm?

lefty, good gb rate. if the price isn’t crazy…meh.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

career 1.4 something whip, career era+ of 96

Meh no matter what the price. He’s got essentially no chance of being good. At least if Tillman goes out there I can tell myself he might “figure it out”.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

FIP and xFIP aren't half bad.

I’m with Higgins, of all of the bargain starters on the FA market, I kind of feel like Maholm is one of the better choices. I’d probably prefer him to Saunders, and he probably will be half the price.

by ChrmCtyRnr on Jan 3, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

"Aren't half bad" ...

for a BOR starter, let’s be clear on that. He’s a pitch-to-contact guy who gets a good deal of ground balls, but he struggles to throw 200 innings in a season. Still not a terrible choice.

by ChrmCtyRnr on Jan 3, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Special present for all of you

Man named Omar Little arrested in Baltimore on gun charges

Also, might be just me but this OT isn’t showing up on the main page.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

had the same problem with the OT not showing up

when I first opened CC. Then it wouldn’t keep me signed in. But it seems to be working now.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, wonder if that is dude's real birth name

or if he legally changed it to Omar Little at some point in the recent past?

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Brady Anderson's website is nice...

But I mean come on, have you seen Gregg Zaun’s website?

greggzaun.com

It’s playing Rush-Limelight!

What up?

by snakethejake on Jan 3, 2012 9:55 AM EST reply actions  

Brady's site is hilarious!

He still has the “Hello World!” post up with the Mr. Wordpress comment. Cute.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

I was going buy playoff ticket

soon as went on sale at 10:00. 9:59 i refreshed it and the fill out form finally popped up. 1 ticket anywhere in the stadium said no matches. I was within first 5 seconds. What the hell?

by Michael18 on Jan 3, 2012 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

The Orioles don't make the playoffs, so that makes sense.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Suppose be few

thousand open seats on ticketmaster. How was every ticket sold out in 5 seconds. I had be one of the first. I got up early for this?

by Michael18 on Jan 3, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Got up early at 10AM... poor baby

I have never been able to get any Ravens tickets in this manner. I try with the regular season every year.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I know

a player so I can get a ticket time to time free in players family/ friend area free. Never been to playoff game though.

by Michael18 on Jan 3, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm assuming you're talking about the Ravens?

and if that’s the case, there’s a good chance they were all already sold out before this morning. they gave season ticket holders the first chance at them a few weeks ago, and then they let people waiting on the season ticket list get the next crack at them. entirely possible they were all gone or there was a very small number left.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

on the

Ravens site the promised a few thousand would be left on stubhub soon went on sale for single ticket buyers.

by Michael18 on Jan 3, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah they said that on the radio too

I was going to try but forgot about it. I think GC’s right about the process, and you’d have to be an idiot to turn down an opportunity to buy a Ravens playoff ticket that you could flip for 2x face minimum.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I was up at 530, champ.

Duck was probably up at 230 when the roosters started crowing.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

He waits.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

The twitter says they sold out in 14 minutes. Not sure why it would have failed for you right at 10am.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Risk anyone?

I haven’t played in over a week!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

do it.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

i'll play

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Ummmm okay sure

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't sound like your heart is in it, man.

Only fully invested members wanted.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

game is up in any case

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Just had a pumpkin pie pop tart

Oddly satisfying.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

That statement does nothing to sway me from one of my core beliefs.

Which is, “There is absolutely no reason to make any flavor of Pop Tart other than Frosted Brown Sugar Cinnamon”

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 3, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed.

I don’t eat pop tarts except on rare occasions. Somebody bought me a box these pumpkin pie ones since I’m a huge pumpkin pie fan. They weren’t bad.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I've lost about 40 pounds since the summer

I call my strategy “The Don’t Eat Poptarts Diet”

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

You put on 40 pounds just from eating pop tarts?

Wowser. You must have eaten quite a few pop tarts.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Pop tarts or other various fruit filled and frosted items.

In college I gained the freshman 10, the sophomore 10, the junior 10, and the senior 10.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I've put on about 20 lbs since the end of high school.

I doubt it has anything to do with pop tarts though. Drinking more and running less, but I’m trying to change that now.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I gained 60 pounds since High School.

Graduated at 175… now 235.

I want to get down around 220 this year though.

High of 264 (yiiiiiiiiiikes, that wasn’t good).

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 3, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm guessing you'll be one of the 8000 extra people in the gym now.

Can’t wait until this wears off so I can go back to normal workouts. Damn resolutionists.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

My gym was surprisingly not that crowded yesterday

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

It takes a few days

Mine wasn’t that crowded either, but there was like half a dozen people there signing up.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I used to work at the YMCA

You could ALWAYS tell who was going to workout for a week and then stop.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah, I'm in the gym at least 2-3 times a week no matter what.

I just gotta get more focused about it and cut out one of my binge drinking days a week. This is the year I cut back to 2 days partying a week!

I CAN DO IT!

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 3, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Jeez...3 binge drinking days a week?

I’m at one per week right now and I’m trying to cut that back too.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Binge drinking for me is pretty different than in college.

I had 4 drinks over 7 hours on New Year’s. That’s the most I’ve had to drink since May, when I had 6 drinks over 8 hours.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

That isn't binge drinking.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's my point.

I binge drank in college, but I don’t anymore. Anything more than one drink a day is pretty much binge drinking for me now.

I probably average about 6 drinks a week during baseball season, because I have one with just about every O’s game I watch. During the off-season, I probably average 3-4 a week, as I’ll have one for football games (Denver, Maryland, or both) and for Maryland basketball games.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I"m mor like this

the bright side of it is, when I do want to get blitzed it only takes 5 drinks or so.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 3, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Cheers for cheap drunks!

My tolerance is so low now, that if I exceed 2 drinks per hour, I feel it.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't really drink at all unless I'm binge drinking

I’ve yet to see the point of having any drinks if I’m not getting wasted.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

This I don't understand.

I drink beer because I like it. No way you can fully enjoy beer when wasted.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't enjoy the taste of beer or any other alcoholic beverage.

I’d rather have water than any of it. I enjoy being wasted though.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

have you tried any of the craft beers?

Most of the traditional light beers all taste fairly bland and the same. But if you explore some of the craft beers there are many different tastes.

by Benhem612 on Jan 3, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Don’t LIKE any of them. I like some a lot more than others, but I’d still never be like “Man you know what would go great with this meal? A beer!”

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Dang dude....I pair beer with meals like a champ.

That generally involves cooking with whatever beer I’m pairing with the meal.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny thing

I tend to like things cooked with alcohol a lot more than drinking it.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew there was something really off about O'sFan21...

… doesn’t even like craft beer.

What a weirdo.

(I keeed… I keeed…)

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

The beers I “like” the most tend to be Asian or Latin.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Which Latin ones?

I’m no expert, but I think Latin beers tend to be basically German beers.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Negra Modelo in particular

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I like all of the mexican beers

I don’t even care that half of them are like, the bud light of mexico. I still like them.

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Some days a Corona is just about the best thing you can ask for.

Unless it’s in a 32 oz. aluminum can with no lime at Pickles.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 3, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Boom. German style.

If you like that, there are German beers you will like.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Such as?

I haven’t enjoyed the German beers that I’ve had. Don’t know any names off the top of my head, but they always seem a lot stronger/more bitter tasting.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I guarantee they're there.

All of those Mexican beers are very similar to many German beers on account of it’s immigrant Germans what started brewin’ ’em!

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm always open to suggestions

just don’t generally like them when I try them. haha

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I like bitburger

But I don’t claim to have a brewmaster’s palette. Just know what I find tasty.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

in honduras...

one fo the better beers there had a mission statement on the label signed by brewmaster helmut lutz.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

a nice kolsch...

is very a tasty, smooth beer. gaffel does a pretty nice one.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you buy them in grocery stores?

I’ll give ’em a shot.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

probably whole foods.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Augustiner Brau!

In my top-5 of beers I love. Pricey though. $13 clams a 6er at my local LQ.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Due to hiding Germans.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 3, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

for some reason

this comment makes me really want to see Inglourious Basterds again.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

King Kong!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

They usually say this is what alcoholics do

Not saying you are unless you drink to get drunk…everyday

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 3, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It's one of the things about alcoholics

but it’s not usually because they don’t like the taste of alcohol.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here

I’ll occasionally drink with the intent of getting wasted, and then lose interest and only up having a few but I never go into it like “Im just going to have 3-4”. It’s impossible.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 3, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

So true

I had to call in drunk once this season. I’m lucky it was only once.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

i did that a lot more often last season

this year i just showed up anyways. i accepted being judged by my peers.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

preach!

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea...I had to exercise some serious effort, but I've kept from drinking on Sundays.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm at one every 3 weeks.

I’d like to increase it to one every 1.5 weeks. haha

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to decrease to 2 per month.

Right now, I’ve been doing “happy hour” every Thursday. That involves drinking starting at 4 and ending at 2am. Going to work on Friday after that is a pain.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

holy shit that's a big range!

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm a big guy...

I was really lanky and scrawny in High School. Just a 6’4-6-5 frame at like 170-175 lbs. 220 would be a good weight for me, and I’m probably about 15 lbs. away. 260 wasn’t good at all… damn office job and drinking everyday got the best of me before I realized my metabolism quit. Now I know I can’t do the things I could at 20-25 and still maintain where I was at so I had to adjust.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 3, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah at that height

the higher end makes a lot more sense than the lower end. I was 6’1-6’2 and 165ish in high school and thought that was ridiculously skinny.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I played soccer and basketball everyday too though...

So I was running around EVERY SINGLE DAY. Now, I walk to the copier and think about drinking during the day.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 3, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

man it’s really a bummer to think about how I spent my days as a 17 year old compared to now.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Totally blows...

I get depressed sometimes about being domesticated. I mean, yeah, its a new journey being a husband/father and stuff. But damn, back in the day it was like I had a different gf every 6 months and it was awesome.

Like Baskin Robbins man… all those flavors and shit.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 3, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

ha

this one’s for you:

http://i.imgur.com/240Mt.jpg

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

there are naked bars???

does that mean strip clubs? it sounds more like some nudist thing.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 3, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

No comment.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha so true

I was outside running around for hours every day. We’d go to travel soccer tournaments and play 3 games a day sometimes. Now I’m still pretty active but if I try to run more than 2 miles my legs let me know about it for the next 2 days.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Weight

I graduated high school at 130.
I went up to 145 my freshman year of college and stayed there for years.
When I moved back to the US from China, I put on 40 pounds in about three months.

I have yet to be able to cut down on that 40, though I’d like to think that with the light lifting that I do, that I’ve converted at least some percentage of it from fat to muscle.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

How short are you?!

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow, does that count as underweight?

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

No, I'm about 20 - 30 pounds above my ideal weight.

Based on body mass index (which really isn’t very good, but it at least gives a ballpark), I should be around 150 – 160 pounds. I should typically aim for something on the lower end of my BMI range, just because of my body type.

The majority of my college weight gain was height growth, as I was about 5’2" when I graduated. The majority of my back-in-the-US weight gain was chunking up on my belly. I went from a 33 to a 38 waist. Now I’m somewhere between a 36 and 38, depending on the cut / style of the pants.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I was actually refering to your high school/college weight.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Based on the BMI, I was just out of the "ideal" weight range.

But realistically, because I have leaner muscle mass, I was still in a good range. I was thinner, but people commented on me looking healthy. I had the same BMI when I was in China and those bastards called me fat.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Chris Robinson?

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 3, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I ran about 150 in high school.

Lost a ton of weight my senior year (~15-20lbs) due to illness, but got back to 150-155 pretty fast after getting to college. Now I’m about 165.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I wrestled 119 as a senior in HS

After that, beer and unlimited seconds in the cafeteria at school started the upward slide that continues to this day.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 3, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

High school...

I wrestled 103, 112, 119, and 140 (though I only weighed 125 my senior year).

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I am right there with the two of you

Wrestled 112, 125, 130, 135. Stuck around 140 through college and 5 years after but somehow made it to 152 this year. Age is finally catching up.

by Benhem612 on Jan 3, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I had no idea

there were so many sub-140 lb guys around at any point.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I figured because this is the internet, all of you guys were morbidly overweight.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

at least in my case I am also sub 5'8 as well

we were there you were probably just not looking down. Haha.

by Benhem612 on Jan 3, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotcha beat

Wrestled at 98 my 9th grade year, 112 in my 10th grade here. Then I broke my collar bone 11th grade year and Mom said “That’s it, you’re done.” Graduated at 125.

I don’t weigh 125 now.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I got up to 210 my senior year of college.

but i’m back down to 170, which is about where I was in high school. Still need to lost about 10 or 15 probably though.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I weight something too

It’s different from what I used to weigh.

I like when people have weights.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Only poptarts and the Redskins

I kiiid I kiiidddd

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll play too!

Was around 165 in high school (6’1"), stayed more or less around 170 through college. Gradually increased to ~190 over the years, then met my GF and went on a wine-drinking and lamb vindaloo-eating binge and show up to 250 by June 2010. Then through biking (pre-knee injury) and weight watchers (post-knee injury) I’m back to 190.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Man, I'm with you

6’1, 168 out of college. Never got as high as you (220ish is my max), but haven’t gotten as low as you yet either. Good to know it can be done. How old are you again?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

just turned 29

Biking everyday from August 2010-November 2010 without changing my diet at all allowed me to go from 250 to 220, but then I couldn’t bike so I had to find another way. Started WW on January 1st 2011 and was down to 190 by the summer, but couldn’t manage to get any lower. Basically maintained for the past six months, although I kind of took December off and gained back a few pounds. I’m gonna start tracking points again starting today so I can get back to a weight that starts with “18.” If I ever get my knee to back to a point where I can do some serious workouts, I’m optimistic I can get back down to around 175.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

WW seems kinda good.

I’ve heard folks have had some good success with that as long as they maintain a semi-regular exercise schedule.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

it's great if you stick with it

exercise isn’t absolutely necessary, but it’s strongly incentivized because it allows you to eat more.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Exercise is required to really be healthy though, regardless of what you're eating.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Somewhat

but its still all about net calorie intake, especially in terms of weight. Working out for an hour a day probably only buys you a few hundred extra calories, which is nothing compared to changes in diet.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Weight isn't the only issue at stake.

Exercise has many other benefits that you can’t get from doing nothing. Blood pressure, etc.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he's saying

regardless of weight issues, it’s very important to exercise for total and overall health. And as I type this, he says that.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 3, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha this!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...

I was never a marathon runner or anything, but if the most exercise you do every day is walking to your car, you’ll feel winded and your heart will pound just doing two flights of stairs and that isn’t good.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

I was just saying that to lose weight with WW you don’t have to go to the gym every day.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

So you're just about my age as well

and my knees are shot, so there’s that too. I need to buy a bike. I’ve got a wide frame, so 190 would be pretty great for me. I was really (probably way too) thin at 168.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I was definitely way too thin at 165

but I have more of a “skinny-fat” frame where most of my weight is saddled between my lower thigh and the bottom of my ribs. Total pear shape, which wasn’t obviously wasn’t noticeable at 170 but definitely noticeable at 250.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Nicely done.

That’s some pretty serious weight loss. I’m 6’0ish, 165lb. Waiting for age and my shitty eating/drinking habits to catch up with me. Really should work on fixing that stuff before I get fat though.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I keep thinking my metabolism is going to change

I can’t put/keep weight on for the life of me. It’s been annoying most of my life, but I’m starting to appreciate it which I’m sure means it will change soon.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

not necessarily...

my fiancee’s dad is in his early 60s and eats like a horse, but is thin is a rail. granted, he’s pretty active, but it’s truly amazing to watch that dude lay waste to an all you can eat buffet.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

Yeah that’s the up side to it, the downside was when I was desperately trying to gain weight by eating about 6000 calories and drinking 4-5 protein shakes a day with almost zero results.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

jeez...

crazy.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I've cut that part out which is kinda good.

Downside is that I end up watching most of those games at home now instead of the bar.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

remember once when my roommate went down to the beach for a week

he came back visibly fatter. It was insane. I think he ate pizza and binge drank all week and put on 5-10 pounds. I think it was gone after like a month or so of normal eating.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I put on 8 pounds since Friday.

But, Ill lose it back by this Friday.

Mondays, I’m always in the high 230s… Fridays (don’t drink much during the week, have a routine, hit the gym etc.), I’m always very low 230s.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 3, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

This will really piss you off

but when I have a serious binge drinking night I usually lose 3-5 pounds.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, me too....

Its only when I accompany it with Waffle House/Dennys/Foot Long Sheetz sub and a large bag of Crab Chips at 3am that I run into a problem.

If I’m just drinking, I lose a couple pounds of water weight.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 3, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I was including the drunk eating

the big problem is if I’m not up at a relatively decent hour the next day and eating a huge breakfast and protein shake I’m losing weight.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I intentionally don't eat before I drink because it takes my 235 pound ass so long to get a buzz....

I’ll usually drink like 8-10, then order something (Usually the Turkey Club at the Greene Turtle – FANTASTIC!) and then start slamming till last call.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 3, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, and the smoking generally starts up after the Turkey Club halftime.

I used to smoke all the time, now its only during the 2nd half of binges.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 3, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I really could be an alcoholic

I don’t really drink Monday – Thursday unless there is a big sporting event. And by Thursday and Friday I start getting really moody.

Bar time is like my recharge…

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 3, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Trust me, you're not an alcoholic

I’ve lived with an alcoholic roommate. Sounds like you just hate the work week like the rest of us.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't had a Pop Tart in 6 months

and I’ve put on 10 lbs. Maybe I should start eating them again? Wouldn’t that be an awesome diet? “Eat Pop Tarts and Lose Weight”. I could make a fortune.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 3, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Pop Tarts count as fruit, right?

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

ha, nice reference!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 3, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that's what the guy was trying to prove.

On a side note, a strict calorie count (along with no pop tarts) is the actual way I lost weight.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think I could ever put myself on a calorie count.

The way I eat, it’d be crazy.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I've done it and it works really well

though keeping track of everything, especially if you cook for yourself a lot, is kind of a pain. After a while you can drop it after getting a feel for portions. Its most helpful for realizing where theres a lot of empty calories in your diet that you don’t need. The gf was shocked how many calories she was consuming in coffee creamer a day.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Gah... I was typing the word "apps"

when your comment appeared. Myfitnesspal is really good.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

The best thing ever

has been the eat this not that 350 calorie meals book I got from family. Lots of good lo-cal recippies that still taste good.

by Benhem612 on Jan 3, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I've never been an aggregate calorie counter...

… but I do take calories and fat calories into consideration when I’m eating. For lunch, I do a tour around the cafeteria and kind of see what has the best taste : calorie ratio available. I’ll do half an egg salad sandwich if the “meal” place only has really fatty stuff.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I hate when people steal my good ideas

and hop in their time machines to go back to the recent past so they can claim them as their own.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 3, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

S'mores flavor disagrees with you

especially when frozen.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Never had one.

Although a frozen chocolate pop tart sounds kinda good.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I would be leery of that

since my experience with chocolate pasta taught me that 2 things that I love separately do not necessarily work well when combined.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 3, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Smore pop tarts have graham crust!

It’s just 1 thing everybody loves already in tart form!

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

we have a winner~

I dunno why but I like the plain non-frosted strawberry poptarts the best.

by Benhem612 on Jan 3, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

There are pop tarts flavors other than strawberry?

Actually, I also like brown sugar. The other flavors are dead to me.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I love those

but I also like smores.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

ahhh

the winter pop-tart debate

by Philly O's on Jan 3, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

spoiler alert

Brown sugar loses…cause I said so.

by Philly O's on Jan 3, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I would respectfully offer the opposing point of view, stated most concisely as

pffffffffffffffffffffft

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 3, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

you are probably also one of those people

that likes to put cinnamon in their coffee. this world needs to ease up with the cinnamon usage.

by Philly O's on Jan 3, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha ha "those people"

No, I only like coffee-flavored coffee. And BSC Pop Tarts are my only cinnamon usage. But it belongs there, dagnabit!

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 3, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

So now the interweb says that Crisp is NOT coming to B'more. But maybe he is.

Or not. You know what, we’ll check on that and let you know.
Hot stove season drives me nuts.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

HOT FUCKING STOVE

obligatory

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Crisp is ancillary to my concerns.

Get a Jones trade done. Endy can fill in at CF if need be.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I think I'd rather have Crisp as a full time CF than Chavez.

I need to delve a bit deeper into numbers and opinions though.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Does it really matter?

We are likely to lose 90 games again this year, whether Crisp or Chavez mans CF on a regular basis. I just hope a Jones trade isn’t dependent upon signing Crisp. Get a Jones trade done, then worry about who plays CF.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. But I'd still rather have the better player (mostly defensively)

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, you should look a bit more closely

Chavez is getting old, but his fielding stats are pretty awesome: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/chaveen01.shtml
Of particular interest is Chavez’ RDRS/yr, which is essentially how many runs he saved over 1,200 innings compared to other players at his position. As a CF, he has one of the highest rates in baseball.

by Bird of Pray on Jan 3, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

No! Don't do it!

Just because he is a fantastic trade chip doesn’t mean we have to deal him. We should build around him unless he gets us a legit #1 starter. As far as I’m concerned, there aren’t any pitchers who COULD be traded in equal value for Jonesy.
Everyone is so eager for ANYTHING big to happen that you guys just say deal him? Who cares who we get? The Jurrjens rumor was the best I’ve heard and even JJ wouldn’t have had success in the AL East.
Duquette has been smart so far. I just hope he stays that way.

by Bird of Pray on Jan 3, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Build around him? He's not nearly good enough to build around.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Then who WOULD you build around?

Our outfield is one of the few spots where I feel good about the O’s. Markakis keeps losing steam, we don’t really know who our left fielder is and while you might be right, that Jones isn’t the ideal focal point of the team (Wieters is an obvious keystone) I’m frustrated that O’s fans just want to deal him for anything. So fine, don’t build around him but put your itchy trigger fingers down and acknowledge that there is a reason that other teams would deal for him: he’s still better than most outfielders.

by Bird of Pray on Jan 3, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Wieters

or build to Machado and Bundy.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

and, 'better than most outfielders' isn't exactly a high bar to achieve

so he’s better than 50% of other MLB OFs….yeah…and….so. He’s not now, nor is he likely to become an elite MLB OF. Extract what value you can from him and look toward a time when the O’s actually stand a chance to compete.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but the Orioles, sans-Wieters, have no one yet worth building around in the majors.

At least not if the goal is a championship-caliber franchise.

There are a handful of players who could be useful players on an existing championship-caliber franchise. Jones is one of these players, surely. But when you’re talking about needing to go from 93 losses to 93 wins, no. Adam Jones is not your player. Nick Markakis is not your player, although he’s being paid like he is.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

zack attack!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate reality

Yeah. Well. You might be right. Still, I hate seeing so many Orioles fans just shit on one of the few bright spots we’ve had. I really like Jonesy and his style and even if his numbers aren’t fantastic, I think you hit the nail on the head: he could help a championship team but yeah. He could help the O’s in a lot of ways by never wearing black and orange again. Which is a sad thought. Damn all of you.

by Bird of Pray on Jan 3, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem is that he's not that bright of a spot.

I like him a lot and wish he were better, but he ain’t. Don’t tell the rest of the league on the off chance they don’t already know!

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Is anyone shitting on Jones though?

I think we want to trade him because we know he has value. I love the guy and I’d enjoy this team a lot less with him gone, but if we want to ever contend we need to start parting with the few chips we have. Outside of Wieters, everyone is fair game for the right price. Maybe even including Wieters.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I am shitting on Jones

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

It is...

…but some helpful Germans volunteered to do the cleanup.

(Ack. Perhaps I shouldn’t post for a while after seeing “Shame” last night)

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no idea what that means

Just like old times before you ditched me for celebrities!

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

You haven't heard of the movie "Shame"?

Awfully good film. Michael Fassbender and Carey Mulligan. Very hard to watch, but oh so worth it.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

That wouldn't be difficult

since currently I watch zero movies. Although I did go see The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo this weekend.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

did you see the most recent X-Men movie?

He was Magneto. He was also the german-speaking British soldier in Inglourious Basterds.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

my god.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Tell me you at least watched the animated cartoon back in the 90s?

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

You look more nervous than a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs...

I watched that show and the repeats so many times in the 90’s that when I got all the seasons on DVD I still knew them word for word. It was so great.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Gambit was the best and no one can tell me otherwise

I hate that he’s not really in the movies.

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 3, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

X-Men movies need Gambit being played by Sawyer from LOST.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely

Wasn’t it a rumor that he was or something, then they had some clown play it in the absolutely horrible x men: wolverine.

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 3, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

yea but everything sucked about that movie

I feel like Gambit is a big enough character that he should have been in more of the movies.

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 3, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

His name was in the first movie!

I’m a nerd…

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Was he?

Don’t remember it. I was never that into the movies, was just always shocked that my favorite character wasn’t featured more.

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 3, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Just his name

and it was X2, not the first one.

As an aside, the opening scene from X2 was so badass.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Everything about X2 is just awesome

the sequence where the F16s pursue the Blackbird and Storm is actually useful for a change and spawns all of those tornadoes… so awesome.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, most things

I mean, Jean obviously didn’t need to be on the ground to use her powers at the end. That was kinda dumb.

Oh, also, here’s the pic from X2:

So much nerd glory on that list. The first one, however, does not refer to Jeremy.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha awww man

I was hoping he was holding back all these years because he was a superhero and it would be unethical to go all out. Though I don’t know how his powers would have helped him as a pitcher?

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 3, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Does he have a brother or sister?

the (2) is probably referring to Sam and Paige (Cannonball and Husk). Don’t really see either of their powers lending themselves to pitching though.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I could see one

Cannonball might be able to be the Fastball part of a Fastball Special.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

wow I Just looked up Cannonball

I didn’t know he had like 80 siblings. Their parents were busy

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 3, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't even know how to respond to this

Except with the cartoon of a lower jaw hitting the floor.

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 3, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry

I went outside and played when I was a kid.

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The X-Men cartoon was always on when I came home from soccer.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm talking about Saturdays

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah. Well we didn't watch TV on Saturday afternoons either.

Saturday mornings sometimes, but once the day was going there were things to go to and chores to be done and such.

There is also the fact that you’re like five years younger than me and a boy. I’m guessing that not many 15 year old girls were spending their Saturday afternoons watching X-Men cartoons.

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Your BF can probably tell you all about it anyway

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Jen loved that shit

Don’t be sexist! (Prior rappappledingdong)

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 4, 2012 7:07 AM EST up reply actions  

No excuses

I didn’t have cable growing up. I had still watched it a little. Or atleast heard of it?

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 3, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

she was wacthing captain chesapeake

and chessie the sea monster

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

and by 'chessie'

i mean ‘mondy’

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

By no cable I mean we had nothing.

We had our tv hooked up to the vhs and that was it.

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 3, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

i wasn't aware either

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It's like I don't even know you any more

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

You never knew me

if you thought I’d watch an X-Men cartoon

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet you don't even know what color my eyes are

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

OK

Fassbender – Irish actor who played Magneto in the last X Men movie. Carey Mulligan – Oscar nominated for An Education a couple years ago, starred in Never Let Me Go, Drive and is playing Daisy in the new Great Gatsby movie coming out next year that someone you know just might have worked on…

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it is going to be good, sadly

Cast is great though.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I absolutely loved it.

Best movie I’ve seen in the theatre in years.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It had some interesting elements

but on the whole, it was way too much of a mess for me to really enjoy

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I can definitely see how people wouldn't enjoy it

because of how it was marketed. I loved the pacing.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I think there were about 4 storylines too many

and felt that many of the actors were really wasted in such minimal, undeveloped roles. I think some very aggressive editing to that script, followed by subsequently building up what was left, would have made for a much stronger movie.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Bear in mind...

…that those actors probably all only worked on the film for a few days. If Bryan Cranston, Ron Perlman, or Albert Brooks worked on that movie for more than a week each, I’d be surprised.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like the strength of the movie

was how non-traditional it was. It wasn’t trying to be the fast and the furious, or some silly car movie. I loved that they took the time give a feel for the characters and their relationships, and THEN reveal that the main character is a crazy person capable of crazy things.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

european flick man.

i didn’t mind the pacing.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't hate it...

…didn’t love it either. Felt very much like a movie that should have been made in 1995 – a movie of that moment, not of this one. A diverting way to spend an hour and a half, but not deserving of the acclaim it has gotten either. A nice genre piece that isn’t about anything.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe this a better way to put how i felt about it

I enjoyed watching it, but pretty much stopped caring about it as soon as it ended. I didn’t understand the hype at all.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Hype is about it was a shit year for movies, I think

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

looooved it

bought the soundtrack and all that. can’t wait to see it again, actually.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Dvd on January 31!

I’m going to get a copy of it…. soooooomehow.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

if you guys don't mind my asking

what did you like about it? I thought the opening scene was promising, but spent the remainder of the movie just waiting for it to end.

by nattybroh on Jan 3, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

hard to explain individual taste but I'll give it a shot anyway

I just connected with it. It was pure mood, and it was a mood I really enjoyed. Loved the hard-boiled crime aspect, loved Ryan Gosling’s silent hero-type, loved the slow, lingering cinematography sort of dancing together with the loud 80s-pop-vibe music.

I dunno, man. I just loved it. Your mileage may vary.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

The focus on the characters.

The script took the time to let you get to know all of them, and let you see the relationships. Didn’t feel forced at all to me.

I feel bad for anyone who was expecting an action movie, because it wasn’t that at all. Unfortunately, it’s very hard to market highly stylized films, so lots of people got the wrong impression. I wasn’t expecting anything good and was very happily surprised.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

to each his own

everything you guys listed, I pretty much felt the opposite watching it, but like you said… individual taste.

by nattybroh on Jan 3, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

i liked the opening sequence

and l liked how driver beat the shit out of that guy in the elevator.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

l liked how driver beat the shit out of that guy in the elevator.

That may be my least favorite scene in the whole movie. It felt so out of character to me. He had proven he could be incredibly violent, but was also very meticulous. Such a crude act of violence took me entirely out of the movie.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

His hand was forced.

The girl was there. Had to act. It was extreme, but I thought it fit the character.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

He was forced to kill him

but we had already seen that he had the skill to take the guys gun, shoot him once, and keep moving. Repeatedly stomping the guy didn’t make any sense to me.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a good point

I haven’t seen it since it was released, but iirc, there was lots of the old ultra violence in the hotel, no?

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Everything in the hotel was brutal, but calculated

He responded with the level of violence necessary to accomplish what he need to. The elevator scene was a level of unrefined rage that didn’t fit with the character for me.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll have to wait until I see it again

but, there’s always the fact that the girl was there, and.. you know passion and all that. Was that the first time the two kissed? Because if it was, then the violence occurring like that for the first time would make more sense.

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, i think mulligan played a part as well.

plus, i just think scene shows there’s a lot of rage being caged up in his cool demeanor.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

The head crunching seemed a wee bit much.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

catharsis

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

yes.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked it.

You have to sit back and rid yourself of preconceived notions of how visual narrative normally is portrayed on screen. Once you relax your notions of normally you can accept the film for what it is, a visually striking film with a pleasant audio track. Despite narrative issues I found the film as a whole to be a very pleasant movie to watch.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

i saw shame

and there is too much frontal nudity of michael fassbender. otherwise, good flick.

oh carey mulligan… that surprised me.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Jones <, >, or = Hunter Pence?

Go!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

>

He plays center and produces roughly the same offense, and is under control for an additional year and at lower cost since he didn’t get a huge first arb award.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

<

Pence was born in 1983. Jones in 1985. +Jones

Pence will make $6.9 in 2012. Jones will make $3.25. +Jones

Pence had a .871 OPS (138 OPS+) in 2011 (including .954 in a pennant race for Philly). Jones was at .785 (114 OPS+). ++Pence

Defensively, Pence is not spectacular, but steadier (based on advanced fielding metrics). Jones is more spectacular, but more inconsistent and costs more runs. +Pence

Overall, Pence is a better player for the Phillies to have and Jones is a better player for the Orioles to have. In a trade, Jones wouldn’t bring what Pence would, but wouldn’t be too much below.

On July 29, 2011, the Astros traded Pence to the Philadelphia Phillies for four minor-league players: first baseman Jonathan Singleton, right-handers Jarred Cosart and Josh Zeid, and a player to be named later, determined to be outfielder Domingo Santana.

The O’s should probably get a similar package, minus Zeid.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It is a sad thought. Welcome to Birdland.

And let’s be sure, Adam Jones is not a bad baseball player. Around here sometimes people talk about him like he’s on the level of Yuniesky Betancourt or something. Jones is a good player. But to have value to the future of the franchise he needs to be a great player, and I just don’t think he’s ever going to be that.

I don’t want to see him traded for spare parts, nor does anyone, hence why most all of us here were pissed at the possible Jones for Jurrjens/Prado trade, and last night when it was Jones for Jurrjens and whoever else.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

This is certainly true

and I hope my comment above doesn’t make it seem like I don’t think he’s a good player – I just don’t think he’s a very good player or a great player which are the type to build around.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Adam has done just fine

My only issue with him was that he seemed to need some time to grow up a little bit. There have been moments where it felt like he was coasting a little too much. But this year he seemed to come around.

by Benhem612 on Jan 3, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Where in the world are you seeing anybody on here saying "trade him for anything"?

I think they should trade him yes, but I want the return to be good and make sense for the future of the organization. I think that’s pretty much how everybody feels around here.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Above.

PBR and others have voiced the opinion that we should deal him and worry about who plays CF later. It’s true, we have others that could play center, but I’d much rather see talk of trade Jones for X rather than these empty hopes of getting a good deal out of him.
You can rest easy now however, you all have convinced me that one of my favorite players should no longer play for my favorite team.

by Bird of Pray on Jan 3, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure that's the first time in the history of CC that anyone's ever had their mind changed.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

A rational argument in which both sides discuss and one

alters their opinion? Forget camden chat, that is the first time it has happened on the internet!

by Benhem612 on Jan 3, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

i've changed my mind about duq a bit.

i was initially against him, but then i went to indifferent.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

well that post got fucked up

i went from disliking the hiring to indifferent. i’m sticking with indifferent so far because he hasn’t done much.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

this comment won't unmark as new for me.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

How do you take that to mean that we should "trade him for anything"?

I don’t give a shit who plays centerfield next year because we’re going to suck and frankly the odds are pretty good that whoever it is will be better than Jones defensively.

All that said worrying or not worrying about who plays centerfield next year doesn’t in any way signify that they don’t care what we get in return for Jones – just that they don’t care who plays CF.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Woah, there.

I think you’re reading into my comment a little too closely. It FEELS like O’s fans want to trade him for anything. I don’t actually think that people want to deal him no matter want. It’s just that there have been so many comments (and you just added another with your “I don’t give a shit who play CF next year because we’re going to suck”) that are just so hopelessly pessimistic. Yeah, we suck. Yeah, you’re right. CF is not our main concern. But when I see so many people just begging for trade without any indication of what EXACTLY they want it return, it bothers me. Even if Jones isn’t the gold glove all star (although he does have one of each) that we all have wet dreams about, it bothers me that everyone is so eager to deal him.
Oh, and seriously. Start caring about who plays center. It’s a great position and I DON’T want Coco Crisp there.

by Bird of Pray on Jan 3, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't care who plays CF in 2012 if it makes us more likely to be in the playoffs in 2014.

Because we’re not gonna be in the playoffs in 2012 anyway.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopelessly pessimistic about next year = rational and appropriate.

And I would argue that if you care about defense in centerfield you SHOULD want Coco Crisp there instead of Jones, since you know, he’s better than Jones defensively.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Only kinda

Crisp might have a slightly better fielding percentage, but Jones has the better arm. Crisp averages about three Assists a year. Jones has gotten more assists every year, including 30 over the last two seasons. Also, Jones had a terrible defensive year last year, but before that? He was looking pretty spiffy. Check out his fielding stats: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jonesad01.shtml
Then compare with Coco’s: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/crispco01.shtml

Remember Jones upside is his offense, and THEN remember that Endy Chavez is a better outfielder than Crisp and Jones combined.

Oh, and Pessimism is never appropriate, even when you suck. I love this team and will always look on the bright side. Try it sometime, it’s awesome.

by Bird of Pray on Jan 3, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Who uses fielding percentage?

look at the advance metrics on fangraphs and it’s not even close. Jones’ only advantage is arm.

Appropriate pessimism is the only way to truly rebuild. Looking on the bright side is on of the things that’s led to the last 14+ years.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

woah you embrace the UZR?!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I like it more than fielding percentage.

Also with jones it confirms the circus routes we see with our eyes.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

but you like enough to compare to two players

and conclude one is better than another?!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not the only thing I'm looking at.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

right, scouting too.

but UZR is a legitimate part of your data arsenal now… at least it looks like it.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I'll selectively use it when it confirms what I already think.

lol

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

fucking buck showalter.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Gut and eyes baby!

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you actually look at Crisp?

Crisp also posted a negative UZR last year… again, I’ll acknowledge that Jones is not the best defensive CF, but Crisp would be a slight improvement with a glove, and then a step back with his arm and bat… so WHY do you like this?

by Bird of Pray on Jan 3, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

could be looking at DRS?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

He would only be a slight improvement if you look at last year in a vacuum

Most prior years he would be an enormous improvement.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Link me.

I’ve looked at the numbers, I’m genuinely curious what you’ve found that I haven’t…. WHERE in fangraphs are you basing this off of?

by Bird of Pray on Jan 3, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just looking at each of their player pages?

Jones hasn’t had a positive RngR, ErrR, UZR, or UZR/150 since 2008 and really not a ton before that, while Coco Crisp has had really good defensive seasons 2 of the last 3 years and lots of years prior to that. This past season they were both pretty bad by those measures, but Crisp was still a good bit better than Jones by all those measures. Arm is the only stat where Jones comes out ahead.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

It’s been fun to look at, regardless.

To end this discussion on a positive note: WATCH THIS

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=15433375

by Bird of Pray on Jan 3, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Loved that catch

but I think a better centerfielder doesn’t make it look so hard.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

You're probably right.

I saw that live on TV and flipped my desk. SO awesome.

by Bird of Pray on Jan 3, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too I was freaking out

still an amazing catch.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

No one is going to trade a 'legit #1 starter' for Jones

And keeping him does us no good when he walks (or costs us a fortune to resign) come two years.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Why, thank ya.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The last thing you have to worry about is Jones learning to walk. HEYO!

Ah, man. I like AJ, but yeah. Plate discipline… no.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

/golfclap

Well done.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

HA

That was funny. Mostly because it’s true.

by Bird of Pray on Jan 3, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Jones never walks.

Damnit. I was eating lunch and EME beat me to the joke.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

What? Heyman being wrong? That’s impossible!

by crawdaddy on Jan 3, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

It is impossible when he's the mouthpiece of the player's agent.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn't even know Iowa existed.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

CNN has been running things on their front page.

by crawdaddy on Jan 3, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

heh heh heh

“caucus”

heh heh heh

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Still a bit terrified one of those idiots is going to be in a position to win it.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I heard they just renamed the chicken salad.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. Still disgusting though.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I love chicken salad!

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

It'll be quality American-made shit, though.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

So I got all excited about a potential quasi-major set of moves (by O's standards) for nothing? Figures.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

Not yet.

The sources that say Crisp to A’s are unconfirmed.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Next year's NFL schedule has been released...

The Giants have to play Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Green Bay, SF, NO, Atl, and Cincy. The 3 other non-divisional games are TB, Cle, and Car. That’s 7 playoff teams including the top 3 seeds from the NFC. Sounds fun!

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

is that counting a possible trip to B-more in two weeks?

this weekend will be the only time i root for Tebow

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah...

Denver was at Baltimore in 2009 (my first ever NFL game… and they got crushed to end a 6 – 0 run) and 2010. Took a pass on Baltimore this year, unless we win in the playoffs (unlikely).

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

The one site I just looked at said it was in Denver

But it took me awhile to find it. Do you have a better link?

Ravens schedule gonna be tough next year.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

The price we pay for actually getting a bye this year.

Hopefully we make it worth it.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Denver's schedule will be much tougher next year.

@ Baltimore, @ New England, @Atlanta… vs. Pittsburgh, vs. New Orleans, vs. Houston

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

We really need to get it done this year

Birk’s contract is up. We gotta pay Rice. Mike Preston is practically calling for Ray Lewis and Ed Reed to get benched in the Sun today (they’re definitely missing tackles badly). Next year could be a tough one for us.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Reed seems like he can't square up on guys any more.

Instead of wrapping somebody up he has to go for the arm tackle and then you get plays like that Bengals TD on Sunday.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah exactly

He’s had chronic shoulder and neck injuries for half a decade now. He can still hawk the ball but he’s had a lot of trouble wrapping up and instead dives head first into people, making his problems even worse

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

i mean he's afraid of messing up his neck again, cause another serious injury would probably end his career

but i would argue that if he can’t make a simple tackle (like on Sunday) then he shouldn’t even be out there

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. I don't want anybody to die on the field.

I’m just saying, if you can’t play at a certain level any more, hang up the spikes.

The biggest reason to hope that the Ravens win the Super Bowl is so these guys can ride off into the sunset and everyone can feel good about them going out on top.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I would love for them to win the Super Bowl

have Ray retire, and then immediately be named Linebackers coach. He’ll probably want to take a few years off to watch his kid play in college though.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

That would be great

We’ve had the team to win it all with for the past 3-4 years now, and it isn’t going to last much longer. If we don’t get a ring before we have to rebuild it will be a huge disappointment. Not quite mid 2000s Eagles or Jim Kelly Bills disappointing, but still not good.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

According to fans he's playing at a Pro-bowl level

we have to trust this because the pro-bowl voting is super scientific

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 3, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The travel's nice though

Only one game in the western half the country. Houston and KC aren’t bad flights, and Oakland and Denver have to come to Baltimore. Philly and Washington will practically be home games as far as practice schedules.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

the AFC North is definitely the toughest division right now

and thats what you get for winning the division. Dallas will get Detroit and Arizona instead of Green Bay and SF.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

Just rough that we went from playing GB, SF, NO, and NE this year to playing GB, SF, NO, PIT, and BAL next year.

Of course, Dallas got TB and DET while we had NO and GB. Still managed to take the division, and hopefully we get some players back healthy, so who knows?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

The disparity between not teams, but divisions is enough to make or break playoff hopes right now

It’s sort of a problem. You play one entire AFC and NFC division each year (in addition to your own of course). The difference between playing the NFC South and AFC North let’s say or playing the AFC South and NFC West (like the Ravens did this year) is enough to get someone to the playoffs.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

It's more fair in the NFL than in MLB, though, because there's more volatility among the divisions year-to-year.

Teams mostly rise and fall a lot faster in the NFL, I feel.

Also, the only team to make the playoffs in each of the past 4 seasons is the Ravens.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

WW, I deleted that comment with the link just in case it's sketchy.

Hope not, though.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

Speaking of sketchy...

I listen to 100.3 FM at work and they have some of the sketchiest commercials ever. There’s one for a Catholic cemetery that is just creepy and now there’s one for some self-help lady that freaks me out, too.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

Look on the bright side, you're about to move even farther north.

Or did you already move?

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Two more weeks

Though I don’t think where I’m moving is substantially colder. A few degrees maybe, but not enough to be really noticeable.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Did anyone else catch the salsa music NBC played over Victor Cruz's touchdown dance?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

yep

although I thought it was in the stadium.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Same

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It was amazing

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

jair jurrjens - barf

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

Hi everyone

I posted like twice in the past week and a half, so here I am again. How was everyone’s New Year’s? My friend drunk dialed me at 1 AM saying she was singing show tunes in front of her ex-boyfriend’s house, and yelled at me to pick her up.

Yes, I had to be at work the next morning. Meh.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Jan 3, 2012 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

Did you actually go pick her up?

If so, you are a good friend. Not saying you’re a bad friend if you didn’t, though.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I did.

I didn’t want to leave her there, especially because there was a chance her ex would wake up and that would suck.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Jan 3, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

and that's why i turn off my phone at night

although all of my friends are old now so drunken dialing is out of their repertoire.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I usually do

But I forgot to. Now I won’t forget again.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Jan 3, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Give her a signed baseball

she’ll get the hint

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah,

i saw your sister built a christmas nativity scene out of jeter signed baseballs. nice!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

oh buddy, there's nothing i could say to please you.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha!

Shows how much you know… my sister is an Athiest!

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

well, she attends the church of jeter.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

NOW?!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

your dad does.

it’s not pretty man. i’ll chalk it up to the holidays.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I would like to tell you a story

After Christmas I ordered some on-sale clothes online from The Gap. The shipment email said it would be to my house around January 5th. I spent the weekend in NJ and then after gettig home last night checked the tracking number on Fed Ex’s website to see the delivery date. They said it was delivered over the weekend, but there is no package anywhere near my house. I’ve never had that problem before, but that’s been going around this holiday season. I was pretty annoyed because I would have called to reschedule if I thought it would arrive while I was gone.

Anyway, Fed Ex cannot help me because there wasn’t a signature requirement. Not their problem! But The Gap is re-sending me all of my clothes at no charge with a signature requirement, except for one pair of pants that are no longer in stock. Those they are refunding to my credit card.

It seems rarer and rarer these days to have great customer service, so I wanted to tell you all about the great job Gap did for something that really wasn’t even their problem.

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

don't be surprised

when both packages show up later this week.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't had it happen either

but I know it’s happened to friends. It’s probably not all that likely actually.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Well done by the GAP!

It is good to hear those stories because usually they end up the other way around.

by Benhem612 on Jan 3, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I had FedEx deliver a 300 dollar package to the wrong address

They actually managed to get it inside the apartment building next to mine, which i had zero access to. I only found it totally by chance, I went downstairs to the salon on the first floor of my building to see if they had delivered it there by mistake and the building manager of the other building happened to be getting her hair cut and remembered seeing a really big box sitting in the hallway.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

banana republic did the same thing

they’re owned by the same company though. i had a $100 jacket stolen from my front door. they replaced it for free. i will say that i told them to mail the jacket to my work address and they fucked up and sent it to my home address.

also, my condo security cam caught the thieves. but the video quality was a bit too grainy to press charges. so the police told them move the fuck out and they did.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

its such an absurd name for a store

It makes me laugh every time i’m in there

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

it made more sense...

back in the day when safari gear was hip.

…which i guess is more absurd.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm not a huge fan of BR

but i found myself buying stuff from there somewhat regularly. i think it’s because it’s a nice balance between buying shitty stuff from old navy and high end designer shit that i’m not spending money on.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

REI has something similar that I love.

Lifetime warranty. Something falls apart ten years later, they’ll let you exchange it or get a refund, no questions asked. And if you’re a member you don’t need a receipt.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Jan 3, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

REI is cool

I’m a member and all that. The store in Timonium is awesome, friendly staff, lots of stuff, etc. Not always the cheapest place to shop, though.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree about the expense issue

But I think the lifetime warranty is a reason to shop there. Kinda similar to North Face. Insanely expensive, but they’ll replace/fix a jacket that’s completely fallen apart free of charge. Instead of buying a new jacket every time one wears out, you only pay up front once. It’s worth it.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Jan 3, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

normal wear and tear isn’t covered by North Face – just defects. So it’s not like you buy one jacket for life and just get a new one sent to you whenever your old one wears out.

I get what you’re saying, though. I got a really nice Patagonia jacket as a gift recently and they have a similar sort of program called the “Common Threads” program where they promise to build really durable, high-quality stuff and also promise to charge a fair price to repair those items so you use them as long as possible. I’m not sure what constitutes a “fair price,” but it seems like a good idea.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Very nice

I guess it’s in their best interest to just re-send instead of pay for litigation or whatever.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know

What I’m trying to say is I’m sure they have a policy where they re-send orders up to a certain $$ amount instead of losing that money in the form of time spent with their customer service department, etc. They’ve got dudes like Ed Norton in Fight Club researching which option is cheaper

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

O's win! O's win!
The Orioles are fairly confident they will add another outfielder, though that wouldn’t necessarily portend an Adam Jones trade. The Orioles were not overly intrigued by the Braves’ offer of Jair Jurrjens, Martin Prado, and a minor league pitcher. Connolly doesn’t see Jurrjens as a centerpiece for a Jones trade. Instead, the Orioles are intrigued by Tommy Hanson.

I just like the fact that Duquette seems to know what we all know about Jurrjens and isn’t taking shit from Atlanta. If he’s trading Jones, he wants a grand slam.

Braves: “We’ll give you Jurrjens and Prado for Jones.”
O’s: “(stifled giggle) Make it Jurrjens, Prado, Teheran, and Delgado and you’ve got a deal.”
Braves: “Wait, what? No, we said Jurrjens and Prado for Jones. Period.”
O’s: “Hanson, Prado, and Delgado for Jones? Sure, we’ll do that.”
Braves: “Err….”

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 1:24 PM EST reply actions  

I was just thinking about this, too

Hopefully, if ATL is hell-bent on shipping Jurrjens, DD is making them up the ante on the minor league player(s) to be included.
I’m not steadfast against Jurrjens coming to B-more. His presence could possible facilitate a Guts trade (or maybe DD just flips Jurrjens for some other player). But there has to be some significant value in minor league player(s) included from ATL.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

OUCH

Keeper league at least?

by Benhem612 on Jan 3, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...

At the time, I was looking at having fairly large contracts for both Hanson and McCutcheon the next year, while I could keep Strasburg for cheap. Then he blew out his elbow and I had to pay that contract for nothing.

However, with Jennings I appear to have replaced McCutcheon well enough in the OF and my rotation “could” be good if Jimenez rebounds and Johnson stays healthy.

The trade may still pay off in the long run… or at least not be quite so much of a kick in the ’nads.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt there is any chance Hanson is available.

And I’d rather have one (or two!) of the trio of Teheren, Vizcaino, Delgado

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes! overlooked opportunity!

Step 1: Trade AJ, get SP
Step 2: Trade Guts, get prospects
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Continuation of miserable failure as organization.

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 3, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

tommy hanson?

hasn’t he had a lot of injury problems lately? and he already has around 3 years of service time? no thanks.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't realize his innings pitched weren't that high

127, 202, 137 in his three seasons. That said he is only 24. But the low innings does kind of hurt.

by Benhem612 on Jan 3, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

127 the first year was due to him staying in the minors to delay his clock

they shafted tom glavine because of hanson that year.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

So, I washed my cell phone on Saturday.

I’ve stayed on my mom’s family plan for the last few years, since $10/month for my line was obviously cheaper than anything else I could get. But she wants to shop around for other options, and now that I need a new phone anyway, I’m looking for my own plan as well. Anyone have any recommendations? I don’t need a data plan or anything and am quite content with a simple flip/clamshell phone, so I’m looking at Virgin Mobile’s payLo plan right now. Anyone have anecdotal experience with that?

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 3, 2012 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t need a data plan or anything and am quite content with a simple flip/clamshell phone

Good luck with this. Last time i went to upgrade my Verizon phone, they required a data plan for some of even their cheapest phones.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate verizon

They sold us an unlimited plan and now they are going backwards and doing tierd data plans, ironically enough though when my contract is up and I am no longer eligible for unlimited data, when i pick the next lower tier my rates stay the same. So i lose unlimited data and I don’t save any money. Thanks verizon. Way to squeeze more blood from a stone.

by Benhem612 on Jan 3, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Throw a shit fit to get your unlimited grandfathered in.

If you give em a lot of money and have been with em for awhile they tend to back down a bit.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 3, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I was grandfathered in

They’ve never tried to change it on me.

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

has your contract expired in that period?

I got grandfathered initially but was lead by verizon to believe that once my contract is up for renewal the grandfathering would end.

by Benhem612 on Jan 3, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I was grandfathered in too, fwiw

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm on virgin mobile

and I love it. Great coverage in eastern MD, but spotty in far out western MD

by DaveAA on Jan 3, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

So yay off-season contests!

Is there going to be a caption contest too?

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Jan 3, 2012 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

Come at me bro!

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

What was the fate of this changeup?

A) Homerun
B) Homerun to Eutaw Street
C) Batter took nap, had a mid-game snack, hit homerun off Sheraton
D) Lies, Brian Matusz doesn’t throw changeups. Those are 78 mph hanging fastballs.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

picture sizing

use it

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

First my pictures were too small. Then they were too big.

If I’m linking to a random online picture from Google Image search, I’m pretty limited in options.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

lol

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

no you're not

since you can put in a width=“250” and viola, i don’t have a huge ass Brian Matusz appearing in front of me

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Just tack on width="300" to the end of that picture.

Not limited in options at all.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

like this

he’s just so miniature now

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the original big picture

the circle change is just lost when the picture is so tiny. I also like the “deal with it” response

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I wanted him to be as inflated as his ERA.

Although, the miniaturized picture does display his biceps life-size, so there is that.

Now I’m torn.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

isolate that.....
he’s just so miniature now

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

God this picture pisses me off

what the hell is he even doing? It looks like he’s preparing to lob the ball about 10 feet.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

He drops his elbow big time.

No wonder everyone knows what he’s gonna throw.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

and it's like he's not even trying with his front side

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

What this team really needs

is 4th round draft picks from 2003!

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus, his name is "Jai"

Does “Jai” sound like somebody who can be trusted?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

If he ever hits the majors

They really need to play the slum-dog millionaire song every time he comes to bat.

by Benhem612 on Jan 3, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He sounds like a ninja

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

So he's choosing to go by "Jai"?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It's his middle name

could be a case of that’s what his parents always called him

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

This reminds me of that dude who used to comment here.

The guy who got all uppity about the Skins being a much better franchise than the O’s. He kept harping on Duck as an untrustworthy name. Maybe he’s related to O’s21girl.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That was some weird shit

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Haven't seen that guy in a while

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Weirdly accurate.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm guessing he doesn't warrant a front page post

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Jai Miller

And the price was right….

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

He’s coming off a great season, but it was as a 26 year old in the PCL. Something I’m not seeing?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

He was strong as a 23 year old in the PCL too

He probably won’t be more than outfield depth, but he has upside if he can make enough contact. If his defense is as good as the scouting reports I’ve seen, he’s worth a flyer on a last place team, could be a useful platoon guy in center/defensive replacement.

And as we gave up 0 for him, like I said, price is right. You could say we dealt Snyder for him, but I don’t see how that’s really true in any way.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Makes sense

I guess he’s an upgrade over the outfield depth we’ve had over the past few seasons.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

ha...yea....although that's not really setting the bar very high.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He struck out in 38% of his plate appearances, 179 Ks in 110 games ...

Which is about consistent with his career average. Notably, Mark Reynolds and Adam Dunn have lower career strike-out percentages.

That said, he reportedly plays above-average defense in center field, has above-average wheels and decent patience at the dish. So, there’s that at least.

I don’t hate the move, but this guy absolutely could go K-for-K with Reynolds if given regular plate appearances.

by ChrmCtyRnr on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

he reportedly plays above-average defense in center field

if true, i like this signing a lot. but this sounds too good to be true. a plus CF defender with lots of pop getting unloaded for cash?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The local media had him competing for an A's starting OF job

… shortly before the Gio Gonzalez trade.

Virtually everything I read speaks positively (if not highly) of his defense.

Miller can man all three outfield spots and is a fantastic defender, with Baseball America even calling him a potential Mike Cameron clone in their 2010 Prospect Handbook, the last time he was prospect eligible.

So who knows, but the D seems legit. The Ks are his one big black eye as a player.

by ChrmCtyRnr on Jan 3, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

sweet!

i like this signing a lot then. if he’s a plus CF, i’m for moving jones to LF and letting him play CF.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if Jones is for moving Jones to LF

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

are those 32 HRs legit or a PCL creation?

from what i can tell, i like this signing quite a bit. can he play defense?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

PCL inflated, but not created.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=miller001ran

He demonstrated some pop in the east coast minors, but also has a random 0 HR spot in 400 plate appearances one year. Other than that, he was a mid-to-high teens HR guy on the east coast.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

he strikes out a fucking ton

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, Whoa, Wait....

When the fuck did we trade Brandon Snyder?

by TerroristFistJab on Jan 3, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

this morning, it seems.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Look, that can't be...

Roch nor Schmuck nor Connolly said anything about this. Our crack team of reporters had to have known something!

by TerroristFistJab on Jan 3, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm gonna be pissed if it turns out he actually has power.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I could see him turning into a Shea Hillenbrand kind of player.

by crawdaddy on Jan 3, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Texas

lOveS COokInG tOO!

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked them both

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

well DD is high on him
“Jai Miller has the power, speed, base stealing skills and good athletic ability to be an asset in our outfield as he competes for a spot on our ballclub this spring.”

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 3, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

instata-question

Is there a place on the roster for both Chavez and Miller?

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 3, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Figure 12-13 position players

Wieters
C. Davis
Andino
Antonelli
Hardy
Reynolds
Reimold
Jones
Markakis
Teagarden
E. Chavez

That’s one or two open position player spots, assuming Roberts isn’t ready for opening day.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

25

OF – Markakis, Jones, Chavez, Miller
1B/3B/DH – Reynolds, Davis, Reimold
2B/SS – Hardy, Andino, Antonelli
C – Wieters, Teagarden

12 pitchers…

Conclusion: No. The O’s need 13 pitchers on staff unless Eveland, Wada, and Guthrie all go for 190 IP or more and Britton can handle a bump to 165 – 175. Reimold can fill in at LF, RF, or 1B. Miller is not greater than Reimold, so he can’t take that roster spot, especially since if we do go 12 pitchers, we may need the extra roster spot to go to Ryan Adams.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Bad math is bad.

The players I proposed on offense would allow for a 13 man staff.

I still think Adams is the 12th batter over Miller.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

flaherty?

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh right

Forgot about him.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't see Andino, Flaherty, AND Antonelli all on the same roster

that would be miserable roster construction

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 3, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Not necessarily...

Andino can play 3B / SS, which the others can’t. Antonelli and Flaherty / Adams fight it out for 2B starts with the other backing up.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Antonelli and Flaherty play third...

…both also have experience at short, but are poor fielders there.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

both...

also have been placed in left field.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Rodin's The Thinker...

…plays a better third than either Davis or Reynolds.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends

Could platoon Antonelli and Davis at third, Andino is the starting 2b, Flaherty is the backup.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather Andino super-sub...

… getting 5-6 starts a week filling in at 3B, SS, and 2B. He’s the only guy who can backup Hardy. He can give Davis a spell when we’re up against a leftie. He can slide over to 2B when Antonadaherty inevitably sucks.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

If Roberts can't play...

…I think Andino is clearly the one with the first shot at starting.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

FTFY

If Roberts can’t play, I think Andino is clearly the one with the first shot at starting

by TerroristFistJab on Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That may be true, but it'd be a mistake.

Andino’s most valuable as a super-sub.

Antonelli, Adams, and Flaherty are all young enough that they may be the long term answer at 2B. Can’t find out if they don’t play.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably true.

But that means we are absolutely, positively certain that Andino has no chance of being a one position starter, and I’m going to be all derpy and hold on to the hope that we have many more nights of Movie Reviews with Robert Andino left.

by TerroristFistJab on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

defend that point of view

“Andino is most valuable as a super-sub”

Obviously the Orioles keep saying this, and I can kind of sort of maybe see it. But I want rationalization for it!

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

"Andino is most valuable as a super-sub"

1) Hardy will get injured if he plays 155 games. On the other hand, if he plays 130 games, he is at maximum effectiveness. That’s a game off per week. Andino gets the start at SS once a week.

2) Reynolds should never be put at 3B ever again. Ever.

3) Davis should never be put at 3B ever again. But he will be. Davis is also a significantly better hitter against LHP than RHP over his career, but that won’t stop Buck from platooning him with the right-handed Andino. That’s 2 starts a week at 3B.

4) Andino came to bat 511 times in 2011 and posted a .670 OPS (86 OPS+). He should start every game against the Red Sox, but that .670 is his highest OPS when getting more than 75 AB. That’s not starter quality OPS, even at 2B.

5) Antonelli’s a .779 OPS in MiLB. Ryan Adams’ a .783 OPS in MiLB. Ryan Flaherty’s a .803 OPS in MiLB. All three are younger than Andino.

TL;DR – Andino doesn’t give the O’s the best chance to win in 2012 starting 150 games at 2B. Andino doesn’t allow the O’s the chance to see what three good MiLB 2B can do in MLB starting 150 games at 2B, meaning not the best chance to win in 2013 or 2014, either.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

kudos to you, sir

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 3, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, Andrew, if the Orioles excel at anything, it's roster construction.

Although maybe DD will fail less at it than MacPhail did.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Reports lately make it sound like Adams goes back to Norfolk

Which makes sense – team doesn’t need three second basemen.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

On the bright side, parking Miller in Norfolk...

… means that if Reimold, Chavez, Markakis, or Jones get injured, we don’t have Angle or Hudson at the plate 50 times.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

There's a fundamental flaw in this question...

… we all know the O’s are going to randomly sign Luke Scott, Wilson Betemit, and Rick Ankiel in February. Can we really rule out Johnny Damon?

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

You sir, are going to win the opening day lineup contest in a landslide

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The only question I have with these minor league signings

is doesn’t this hurt our ability to sign draft picks since we don’t have enough spaces for them all to play?

by Benhem612 on Jan 3, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

They all seem to be at the higher levels of the minors

shouldn’t impact draft picks, right?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see why it would hurt anything.

A draft pick will get signed and someone will be cut loose if need be.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Neither are all that interesting.

Miller is an athletic player with good power and speed, but cheats on bad pitches. He has contact related issues.

by crawdaddy on Jan 3, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Ex Marlins prospect

Supposed to be a good defensive CF, strong tools guy that never got much of a shot in the majors. Had some injury problems, OPS over .850 in over 400 AAA games.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I did too.

He went to high school about 10 minutes from me. Used to train for spring baseball in the winter at his dad’s place when we couldn’t outside.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

The Snyder Draft

link

Sad. Mind you, we couldn’t help everyone that was drafted before him, but after? Ellsbury, Garza, Buchholz, Rasmus, etc. Although, the Rays should be kicking themselves even more considering McCutchen, Bruce, and Maybin were there.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 3, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Good luck Brandon Snyder, and don't worry...

wE lOvE tHe RaNgErS tOo!

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Jan 3, 2012 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

I posted Wayward's column in the droppings two days ago.

Just sayin’.

Don’t you READ the Droppings, Stacey?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

you posted it in the comments

unless you also edited the story later which I didn’t see.

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

/Bowser'd

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

he did.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

ok

I saw it in the comments but being that I was out of town and looking at it on my phone I didn’t go back and check. At any rate, more recognition for wayward!

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

So I just ebay ninja'd someone...

with literally one second remaining. I hadn’t been watching the clock and got distracted here and then kinda realized “Oh shit, the auction ends soon!”. Kinda feel bad for the poor bastard that had made the mistake of showing interest in the item by bidding four days ago. My prize:

by TerroristFistJab on Jan 3, 2012 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

nice.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I got to the item screen...

with about 12 seconds to spare, I had to type in a legit number and then do the double confirm thing before getting the bid in, all with that little red clock ticking down. I’m just glad the other bidder didn’t set their max bid higher than what I punched in.

by TerroristFistJab on Jan 3, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

poor guy

although if that happened to me, I’d take a walk down to the vending machine and use the money I was gonna spend on that bobblehead to buy myself a Coke. Cheers me up every time

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

that is AWESOME!

i would have totally bid on that.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

These stupid minor league bobbles are the hardest...

to find, since they usually only give out <1,000 and most of those are promptly thrown out or stuffed in some attic. The most expensive bobble bidding-war I’ve ever been involved in was over another Baysox giveaway. It wasn’t pretty.

by TerroristFistJab on Jan 3, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you ninja'd Nolan Reimold

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 3, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

"Santorum Attacks: 'Ron Paul Is Disgusting'."

THIS SHIT IS GETTING INTENSE!!! well, not really but it’s still funny to watch.

/politics
/deal with it

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

Really Rick? Really?
The childbirth in 1996 was a source of terrible heartbreak — the couple were told by doctors early in the pregnancy that the baby Karen was carrying had a fatal defect and would survive only for a short time outside the womb. According to Karen Santorum’s book, ‘’Letters to Gabriel: The True Story of Gabriel Michael Santorum,’’ she later developed a life-threatening intrauterine infection and a fever that reached nearly 105 degrees. She went into labor when she was 20 weeks pregnant. After resisting at first, she allowed doctors to give her the drug Pitocin to speed the birth. Gabriel lived just two hours.

What happened after the death is a kind of snapshot of a cultural divide. Some would find it discomforting, strange, even ghoulish — others brave and deeply spiritual. Rick and Karen Santorum would not let the morgue take the corpse of their newborn; they slept that night in the hospital with their lifeless baby between them. The next day, they took him home. ‘’Your siblings could not have been more excited about you!’’ Karen writes in the book, which takes the form of letters to Gabriel, mostly while he is in utero. ‘’Elizabeth and Johnny held you with so much love and tenderness. Elizabeth proudly announced to everyone as she cuddled you, ’This is my baby brother, Gabriel; he is an angel.’ ’’

- Source

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Alan Colmes was trying to hit him on this recently

and I thought it was really out of line. Sure, it strikes me as kinda weird, but I’m not going judge someone on how they deal with that kind of grief.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I was just typing this

There are plenty of things to get on Rick Santorum’s case about without trying to judge how he and his family grieved. What a terrible thing to have to go through.

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying grief should ever be targeted...

… but that comes across to me as fetishizing the grief. I don’t believe it represents a psychologically sound individual to force your children to hold a deceased baby and to sleep with a deceased body for two nights.

That being said, there’s certainly plenty about Santorum to find “disgusting” (choosing that terminology since he apparently thinks it’s okay). However, a lot of primary voters identify with him in his homophobia and sexophobia. Far fewer are going to identify with a person who grieves in that particular way.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

While I find it personally repulsive and weird as shit

I agree that everybody should be entitled to grieve however they see fit.

However, when you then put it in a book and run for president and bring it up I think it’s fair game to judge it. Particularly when you use it as part of your radical pro-life argument.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

This

If this had been leaked via someone who had heard it through private conversation, it would be one thing. Ricky put this shit out there of his own accord. He forfeited any expectation of privacy. And he is a weird, sick motherfucker.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's similar to the John Edwards thing with his son

don’t try to use that shit to get elected or you’ll look like an asshole. Of course with both of these guys they ARE assholes, so not sure that could have been avoided.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck me.

I agree with O’sFan21.

I hate it when that happens.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

So it looks like our quick convo last night about who would win was totally useless,
Christian conservative leader Pat Robertson says he has a secret straight from God: He knows who the next president of the United States will be.

“I think He showed me about the next president, but I’m not supposed to talk about that so I’ll leave you in the dark — probably just as well — but I think I know who it’s gonna be,” Robertson said Tuesday on the Christian Broadcasting Network’s “700 Club.”

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Racial humor...

Win or fail?

(I’m going with win, though I do feel guilty for laughing.)

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

If it turns out to be someone else...

does that disprove the existence of God to Pat Robertson?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Pat Robertson's voice

it’s very soft and comforting, like a kindly grandfather or something. It’s too bad he doesn’t actually say anything worth listening to.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

fun fact

Pat Robertson ran for president in the 1980s. ’S true.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Shows you how little Iowa means

Finished 2nd behind Dole & ahead of George the Smarter.

Might as well offer my election year prayer, “Dear Lord, please protect me from you followers.”

"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."

- Merrill Markoe

by sluggo 2.0 on Jan 3, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

took the words right out of my mouth

It’s really hard to imagine grief that you haven’t personally experienced. That account seems intensely personal and if that’s what happened, I’m certainly not going to judge.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Flynn =Matt Cassel

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

Norv Turner = Bullet Dodger

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 3:24 PM EST reply actions  

no way

the chargers must really love being the best team not in the playoffs

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Eggles announce Reid is staying!?!?

Everyone in Philly has a sad

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

You had to figure he wasn't going anywhere.

Dunno what it’ll take to get him fired.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

ugh of course he is

They really need to hire Spagnuolo or next seasons gonna be exactly the same

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I am fearing this to no end

I want Spags as far away from the NFC East as possible (unless the Giants get him back in some capacity). Between rumors that Rob Ryan could get axed and the Philly thing, he seems likely to land in the division. I’d be crushed.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

And who would you like to replace him?

Just curious who is on an Eagles fan’s wish list…

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't he say his list is the Giants, Dolphins, and Texans?

Or a “source close to him” said it, meaning he said it but didn’t want to be gunning for people’s jobs?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I've no idea.

I just know whatever station I overhear during work fetishizes Cowher something fierce.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Cowher would be better

but i’d rather not go with the superstar coach who is going demand final say on personnel decisions. I’d prefer them blow up the whole thing and go with a more traditional front office setup. Go out and hire a veteran personnel guy as General Manager, then let him hire a top defensive assistant as head coach.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Leggle my Eggle!

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 3, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Just entered my boy in his first novice wrestling tournament!!!!

I’m going to be a nervous wreck on Sunday.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

Keep in mind that your success or failure as a parent hinges entirely on his performance this weekend.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

If he does one move correctly, it's a win

Seriously. Just to see him properly defend one single-leg takedown, or spin behind his opponent when he should, or try a stand-up, I’ll be thrilled.

I am, however, bringing his health insurance card.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

3/4 nelson.

Nobody knows it. Nobody knows how to defend it effectively. Teach him that one move and how to sense when it’s okay to commit to it (and when to bail on it) and he’ll dominate.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Haven't worked on anything with legs yet.

I know technically it’s not a leg move, but he doesn’t have the strength to pull it off, anyway.

I’m trying to teach him a cheap tilt off the whistle when he’s on top.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I never had the strength either.

That’s what’s great about it… it suckers your opponent into helping you pin them, then you get to show their ass to the crowd. I’d set it up by arm chopping my opponent down, then as the base up again, I’d rest my forearm on the back of their neck. If they didn’t immediately shoot their head up, I’d lock my leg on their ankle and go for the move.

I was never a strong neutral… I’d usually shoot in and try to get locked on one leg and balled up to avoid a wicked cross-face. Then I’d try to ankle roll or ride out a stall. Never had enough strength for any kind of double-leg takedown.

From the bottom, I’d work from the sit-out.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

My first ever match...

I got the guy on his back and didn’t know what to do, so I just put one hand on each shoulder and tried to push them down. 7th grader at 75 lbs. >.<

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

You gotta knock out the ref with a chair

then knock out your opponent with the same chair. The ref wakes up first and you win. Easy as pie.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 3, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I thought you were supposed to bring a ladder

climb up into the ladders and then jump on your opponent while he’s talking shit to your girlfriend. Never sees it coming.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 3, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

How are his microphone skills?

Do you have a good storyline picked out for him?

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 3, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

He's at 80 in 6th

He’s also liking sit-outs. Get to a seated position pretty often, doesn’t know what to do with it yet. I should him a head-hunt last week, when he’s seated and the opponent gets his head anywhere near one of his shoulders to reach back and basically roll to that side, keeping the head and it takes the opponent to at least his side, and even his back if you’re quick enough. Work in progress…

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I used to piss off all of my coaches...

I was so much smaller than most of my opponents, I’d sit out and then put my forehead on my knee. Coach would start screaming. My opponent would invariably cradle me and I’d just go limp. I’d slide my inside arm out and then plant it. The guy would pin himself. I did this several times my senior year when I was 125 wrestling 140.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I can see why your coaches were screaming...

“Son, don’t you remember? Head plus knee equals cradle!!!!!”

And if someone was using a Gable grip and brought his elbows together, you’d have been screwed.

And how were you wrestling 3 weight classes above your weight? Even then, you couldn’t go more than 1 above the one you weighed in.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

CHEATER

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen a kid stuff locks in his shorts to make the minimum for heavyweight

Kids, I swear.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The nurse also did that for my Granddad

So that he would weigh enough to join the army.

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Top rope elbow a la Macho Man

NO ONE will see that shit coming.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 3, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

In other news

it’s fucking cold and windy outside

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 4:39 PM EST reply actions  

50 and mostly cloudy

Yay, West coast!

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I know.

Wasn’t windy when I left this morning, but it was extremely blustery when I went out a few minutes ago.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

20 here. With the wind: feels like 7.

And I’m using F there.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 3, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

adorable...

boras is looking to get in the 15017 mill range for edwin jackson?

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 4:50 PM EST reply actions  

Would anyone in their right mind actually pay that kind of money for him?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 3, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope. Not a chance.

Yeah … apparently he’s looking for five years, 15-17. The Yankees – I repeat, THE YANKEES – said that they like Jackson, but not at the 10-12 mm price tag. So that’s fun.

by ChrmCtyRnr on Jan 3, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn't 15017 be...

… 15,017,000,000.

Edwin Jackson wants the GDP of the United States? I mean, I expect that from Scott Boras, but not someone with an actual soul.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

15 BILLION DOLLARS

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 3, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

do it now!

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

RISKY mcRISK A LOT?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

maaaaaybe

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

If you can stand to have an interruption then I can play.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

what kind of interruption?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I need to go to Kitchen Kaboodle (is that just a portland thing?) and pick up a b-day present for someone.

An hour at most, but I could play most, maybe all, of the game before I leave.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

so you're leaving....

how soon?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I can play

im not leaving soon

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

do i use your gmail addy?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

sho'!

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 3, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm starting it

just got a weird error. hang on a sec

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, game is up!

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone here got experience with dual-boot PC?

Looking at a PC on eBay (dude builds them, 96% positive reviews with 180 or so feedbacks) with quality parts for under $300. He’s using a Intel E5700 3.00GHz CPU with 4 MG RAM and a 500 GB HD.

I asked (and got) details on the vid card (256 MD Intell HD3000), the audio card and processor, and it’s legit stuff. He’s maybe making $50-$75 in profit after I price checked the parts on NewEgg with help from our school’s tech.

At that price, I’m thinking about dropping another $100 at Amazon to get an Windows 7 Home Premium OEM disk and just making it a dual-boot system after I have him ship it without an OS.

Install Windows 7, then install Linux, and it’s fairly straight forward to use, right? I’m having a friend who used to be a Linux admin for a company actually install the OS on it. Throw my existing FireWire card on it and voila!

So, CCers with dual-boot experience – am I missing anything? The kid needs a new PC (as she says, if her current machine was a kid, it would be in kindergarten). I’m thinking this is a pretty cheap yet good option for moderate video editing and her school work..

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 5:16 PM EST reply actions  

::sticks fingers in his ears::

la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, that's right

I’m supposed to pay $650 more for a shiny one that does THE EXACT SAME THING!

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

well if you have the money...

macs are great at the whole dual-boot thing.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, bootcamp actually makes it incredibly easy

and I’m sure this will totally change duck’s mind about macs

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

ftfy
I’m supposed to pay $650 more for a shiny one that does THE EXACT SAME THING! just works.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Macs are good for...

… film editing…. and….

Well, that is all I ever use them for. I use a PC for everything else.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, if you can find a Mac for 1000 bucks, it was made in 1985

Modern ones cost one Edwin Jackson accoridng to j.q. higgins.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 3, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

thats not at all true

Macbook Airs start at $999, Macbook Pros at $1099. You can get a mac mini for as low as $599. I paid $899 for a macbook pro on black friday.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm in the $500 computer market

Not the $900 computer market.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Then a Mac isn't for you

its undeniably a high-end product, but to say they cost more just because they’re shiny is silly.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

No, teh shiny part was a shot for my Mac fanboy-in-residence

I know why Macs cost more. I’m just not willing to pay it.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

so...

a mac mini for $570 is out of your range?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

well

let’s be fair here. You gotta buy a boatload of peripherals

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

keyboard. monitor.

that’s pretty much it.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

neither of which are menetioned in duck's post above, either

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Because I already have ones that will work with a PC

I’m guessing they’d work for a Mac, too.

The BIG advantage to the Linux boot is the free software that’s available. There’s all kinds of audio and video editors out there for free for Linux users.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you buy third-party peripherals for Macs?

Like, do you have to buy the wireless Apple-branded accessories like the wireless keyboard and magic mouse?

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course

any standard usb device will work. For video, you may need to buy an adapter depending on what inputs your monitor has, but it’ll work.

by kba26 on Jan 3, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

no, there are plenty of 3rd-party options

and with the mac mini you could also esily get usb versions

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotcha

The monitor would still be a pretty big expense, even if you skimp on a USB mouse and keyboard. We’re still looking at like an $750-900 package when it’s all said and done.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think his $500 computer market comment

included the sub-$300 PC and a monitor and some accessories. So a complete solution with that Ebay PC is still cheaper than just the Mac mini.

by PhilR8 on Jan 3, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope - already have one

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

i would imagine that his daughter's existing monitor would be vailable

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

actually

i believe she has one of these:

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

More like this....

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

We have a winner

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah but,

to do “decent” editing, you’ll have to invest some $$ no matter what platform you’re on.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Editing on a PC is god awful though.

Despite the improvements Adobe has made.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Avids for everyone!

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Jan 3, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

If you got any extra just laying around the apartment you wanna get rid of for free...

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Coco Crispz indeed heading back to the A's

ahhh, Hot Stove, you got me for a second there.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

oh my gosh you guys

My stuff from the Gap just got delivered! O’sFan21 was right! But why would the Fed Ex people say it was delivered if it wasn’t? And what do I do with the clothes that arrive in 5 days?

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 6:11 PM EST reply actions  

Delivered at 4:56 p.m. on Dec 30th

That’s what it says. But really it gets delivered four days later??

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Go on your conscience I guess

You could go “ooo! free clothes and money!” Or you could call them up and say FedEx messed up and you got your stuff, and lose free money.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 3, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

debbie downer

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 4, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

send the extra clothes back

karma’s a bitch. pay it forward.

or call gap and offer to send them back and see what they say. they’ll probably tell you to keep them anyway.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I already emailed the person I've been working with.

They can obviously re-charge my credit card for the refund they provided, but I’m expecting they’ll tell me to keep the clothes, in which case Good Will will be getting two lovely brand new shirts.

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm still very impressed with their customer service

Especially since I also contacted Fed Ex about it and haven’t heard a peep. Now it turns out the error was entirely theirs, saying the package had been delivered when it hadn’t.

by Stacey on Jan 3, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

1 point for Gap

I bet you’re right that they won’t even bother fixing it at this point.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 4, 2012 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Lol

I bet it’s just a way for the delivery person to avoid some sort of annoying task like explaining that nobody was there and they didn’t want to leave it on the stoop, so instead they just check delivered and toss it back in the back of the truck for somebody else to find and deliver next week.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 4, 2012 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

what a dick
@ RonPaul : @jonhuntsman we found your one Iowa voter, he’s in Linn precinct 5 you might want to call him and say thanks.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 3, 2012 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

Huntsman don't give fuck

Even before the results were in, Republican presidential hopeful Jon Huntsman had a message for whoever won the Iowa caucus: “Welcome to New Hampshire. Nobody cares.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/04/iowa-caucus-results-live-coverage#block-17

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That's awesome

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 3, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Huntsman's easily my favorite of the GOP candidates.

The reasons for which are probably the reasons why he’s losing.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 3, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I could live with him

Provided the Congress isn’t Republican…

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Jan 3, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

get 'em

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 3, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He's also desperately trying to shed or hide most of those reasons

from primary voters.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 4, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I just saw a clip of him

saying “People in Iowa pick corn, people in NH pick presidents.”

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 4, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

And history proves him correct

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 4, 2012 7:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

but neither of them are pickin’ him. And also Colbert did a funny riff on it yesterday showing a bunch of no-names who have won NH.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 4, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Found out my brother is getting married in Sept.

He lives in Telluride, CO. So I’m checking out the drive from Albuquerque to there. Spectacular looking. It will be my first time out that way.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

Sweet!

Get some skiing in…..

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 3, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Never done it before.

But I’m eager to learn.
And if it ain’t to my liking, I’m know the bars will be!

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 3, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

apres ski is the shit

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 4, 2012 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Zach Britton will be interviewed on XM any minute now.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

zach attack just got married

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 3, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Best. Agent. Ever.
Multiple teams remain interested in signing free agent closer Francisco Cordero and agent Bean Stringfellow is discussing multiyear deals at least one of them, Mark Sheldon of MLB.com reports.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 3, 2012 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

per CNN interview, Santorum is fan of sweatervests,

Is Iowa his Bedard trade?

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 4, 2012 1:15 AM EST reply actions  

fail

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 4, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

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