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...and a happy Koji Day to you, sir.

Adam Jones talk seems to have died down, while aging slugger talk heats up and Dan Duquette's quest for international relevance continues.

Steve Melewski: Fans looking for a total rebuild by Orioles will likely not get one Tell me something I DON'T know, hoss.

Would Fielder indirectly be on the Orioles' payroll? Is a MASN-enabled splurge a lost opportunity?

Orioles interested in Bobby Abreu? | Baltimore Orioles A much better move 5 years ago.

Will Soriano follow Zambrano out the door? - Chicago Cubs Blog - ESPN Chicago This seems to be much more speculative, but nonetheless: DO NOT WANT!

Manny Ramirez will hold a workout for MLB teams | HardballTalk There is clearly a history here, as well, but come on...

Perth Heat catcher Allan de San Miguel has earned a contract to play baseball in the US | Perth Now Who needs Yoenis Cespedes when you've got Allan de San Miguel?

Happy Koji Day! The O's signed Koji on this day in 2009.

It's the birthday of RPs Norm Charlton and Brian Bass.

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This is a few days old

But I don’t think I have seen it come up here. It is a summary of draft picks and international signings in the AL East 2011-2012 from a Jays perspective.

Naturally, the O’s aren’t mentioned too much except to note that the poor get poorer.

http://jaysjournal.com/2012/01/03/blue-jays-2012-draft-picks-and-al-east-comparison/

by Dave Mc on Jan 6, 2012 7:49 AM EST reply actions  

Nice picture.

Glad Koji got to celebrate like that at least once.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 8:35 AM EST reply actions  

agreed

good for him

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 6, 2012 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I've been an O's fan for a long time

but if we ever signed Manny Ramirez, I think I’d seriously have to look for a different team to root for.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 6, 2012 8:51 AM EST reply actions  

I'd be more upset with a bum like Joe Saunders.

I’d treat Manny like Vlad, I think. General apathy turning to resentment, tempered by the notion that at any moment he could do something ridiculous. That being said, holy crap I don’t want the O’s to sign Manny.

by DaveAA on Jan 6, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

It would take a lot for me to drop the O's...

… as evidenced by the last 14 years of complete and utter institutional incompetence. I’m not sure signing Ramirez would be enough.

I would, however, wear my Nationals hat a lot more than my O’s hat.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't support wearing another team's hat for any reason

Or having a “second team” at all for that matter

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

It's strange about the hats, right?

I went to a Phillies game with a friend and picked up a Phillies shirt for the occasion. I had no problem wearing the shirt for a day, because I have nothing against the phillies, really. But the hat? I couldn’t do any hat but the O’s.

by DaveAA on Jan 6, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Being a fan for a day is cool

For instance: my buddy is a huge Bills fans and gave me a free ticket to the Bills/Skins game (Joe Gibbs double time out loss as time expired) and in lieu of that I bought a $15 Bills jersey off of eBay and rooted hard for the Bills all day. Sometimes I’ll wear that jersey on Sunday Funday’s if the Ravens are on bye or playing MNF.

But the notion of wearing another hat because the O’s piss me off irks me slightly.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, to each his own.

I like the Nationals. I like what they’re doing with their franchise. Yes, they kind of got lucky that they had the first pick in two straight drafts with clear top pick players, but they’ve also drafted well in lower rounds. They’ve traded well, too.

While I don’t own any gear, I do still root for Kansas City to do well, too, as I used to root for the Royals after playing on a Little League team of the same name. For that matter, I root for the Rockies just because of my fondness for the state of Colorado.

Ideally, every year, the playoffs would be Baltimore, Kansas City, Seattle, and a new team in the American League and Washington, Pittsburgh, Colorado, and Florida or Arizona in the National League.

I never root for another team over Baltimore. But I don’t see how being a Baltimore fan disqualifies me from enjoying the rest of what MLB has to offer, especially when I live far closer to the Nationals (had a partial season ticket plan this year) than the O’s.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

wut

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 6, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Polygamy? No? Multiple teams?

Made sense to me…. (Mormons don’t actually do that any more, and I know that already)

by DaveAA on Jan 6, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

If I'm married to my lovely wife...

… and Kate Beckinsale comes along offering to join us and my wife approves, yes. I am hopping aboard that train.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Do the O's approve of you wearing a Nats hat?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't approve of the apostrophe use here.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Do you approve of everything your wife does?

No, but you’re still loyal, right?

And to be clear, I don’t care if people wear a 2nd team’s hat. I just didn’t think the comparison fit.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Fair point....

but I’d never ever delude myself in thinking the O’s love me the way my wife does.

It’s sort of the same issue I have with people using “we” when referencing their favorite team. It’s not an equal relationship, and people are just doing themselves a disservice when they think it is.

by Chanumas on Jan 6, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, yes.
Do you approve of everything your wife does?

My wife puts up with me, so that automatically gets her a ton of leeway. She’s not a sports fan, but she watches O’s games and Broncos games with me.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow, she must be perfect then

I’m sure there’s some things you aren’t on board with, but whatever. You get my point. It just isn’t the same.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Last year, for my birthday...

… she took me to an O’s game, made me an awesome steak dinner, then gave me a massage while I watched the Broncos.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying she isn't great

That doesn’t mean you don’t ever disagree with something she does.

But yea, there’s really no point in dragging this out. The convo is dead anyway.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

She should be under strict orders

to dart back and forth in front of you during all future at bats.

by DaveAA on Jan 6, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

We just got a kinect...

… maybe we can do picture-in-picture.

I’ll have the O’s game on the main screen and the Kinect Sports baseball game on the little screen. Then I’ll come up and swing at the same time as the current O’s batter. My results are typically better, so maybe I can become the master puppeteer.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

right

in a situation where they’re both standing there and you gotta pick one OVER the other then you pick your wife, obvi. BUT if they’re in different divisions or even different leagues and they don’t play each other except once every five years or so and you can be with Kate Beckinsale while your wife is in commercials or maybe when your wife had a day game or the Kate Beckinsales are on the ESPN Sunday night game then that seems totally fine to me.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 6, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel you

I don’t currently have a second team or anything but I wouldn’t be against it if I saw something I really liked somewhere else.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 6, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree totally.

I know where my allegiances lie. I will never root for another team to beat the Orioles.

But I don’t need to “prove” it by only wearing the Os’ merchandise, even though I have a lot of it

I have a lot of shirts and hats from other teams, mostly for fashion reasons (because they all have a vintage, timeless look):
- an awesome vintage California Angels T-shirt
- a Montreal Expos shirt
- a Tigers hat
- a Brooklyn Dodgers hat

by Chanumas on Jan 6, 2012 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah I've got an Expos hat

I wear it when I go to games in DC to say, “hey look, I’m kinda sorta being a fan of your team.” Plus it looks so boss.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 6, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

So do I!

I wore it to the one non-Orioles Nationals game I’ve been to, and I actually got a ton of compliments.

by Chanumas on Jan 6, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I would love to buy a patch from ebay and DIY an upside down expos logo hat

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jan 6, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

me too!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 6, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Current baseball apparel...

Orioles: Roberts (away), Roberts (home), Markakis (away), Ripken (1998 home), New Era Spring Training black hat with orange trim, New Era Spring Training orange hat with black trim, O’s black hat with orange front panel, generic knockoff black jersey (no player)
Nationals:Zimmerman (red), W hat (red), New Era Spring Training red hat with blue trim, generic knockoff red jersey (no player, but unique script “Washington”)

At one point, as a kid, I had a baseball hat for about 20 MLB teams.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

me too!

I look at pictures and I have a Diamondbacks hat one day, a mariners hat the next, hell I even had a Devil Rays hat.

by mdterps0325 on Jan 6, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry that i started this debate and then got dragged into a 3 hour meeting

I’m not saying it’s blasphemous to own another team’s merch, or to root for other teams in whatever situation. Lord knows everyone and their mother around here has a fanboy crush on the Rays and how they run their bidness. But the implication that I will root for the O’s as long as they don’t do this, in which case I will root for them less and root for another team more is unfathomable to me.

The O’s are my team and I root for them. I like certain other teams more than others because of certain players on their team or what have you, and I might even be so inclined to purchase some apparel from a different team. But the O’s are MY team. Perhaps if those other superfluous teams signed Manny (as was the original statement), I would be less inclined to wear their shit… because I’m not really a “fan” of them.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

In all fairness to me...
But the implication that I will root for the O’s as long as they don’t do this, in which case I will root for them less and root for another team more is unfathomable to me.

I never said I’d root for them less. I will always root for the O’s over every other team, unless they cheat on me and move to New York or something.

I did say that I would wear O’s apparel less. If the O’s do something that makes me embarrassed of the franchise, like sign an overweight baby who was stupid enough to get busted for performance enhancing drugs twice, yeah, I’m not going to wear my O’s hat every day of the year.

The Broncos have had bad years since I’ve been a fan, but they’ve never made be embarrassed of the franchise. The closest they came was when McDaniels went Belichek with some cameras during other teams’ practices. But, they fired him and restored the honor of the organization.

I would never shirk my team for losing, but if the organization does something dishonorable, I would make my support less visible.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

there's a moonlight graham store right by my work

they sell awesome retro baseball t-shirts. i almost bought an expos t-shirt the other day. i’ve been wearing my new hiroshima carp shirt practically all week.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 6, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

It was indeed

They left his spot on the field open for the first play and went with 10 men. Fred Jackson ran for ~25 yards

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

what an asshole

ok, not really, but still.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean what an asshole whoever's idiotic idea that was.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 6, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

That they left the spot open?

I remember it, and I thought it was very touching.

It was known in advance they’d do it. I think it’s kind of shitty of the Bills to take advantage.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 7, 2012 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

You only get 16 games in the NFL each year

If an opponent is going to do something stupid, no matter how noble the reasoning, AND they tell you what it is ahead of time, you take advantage.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 7, 2012 8:34 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

No, you don't.

There is still such a thing as sportmanship.

Classy tennis players have been known to hit the next serve out of the stadium after an egregiously unfair call. Soccer players will throw the ball back in to the opposition after a player injury forced a team to kick it out.

I have no qualm with the dude running and getting a first down, but going into an intentionally depleted secondary is uncalled for. RUn out of bounds after ten yards, or whatever.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 7, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Those example you describe aren't even remotely comparable

they are an example of something outside of the team’s control that goes against them. If a tennis player intentionally hits the ball into the stands to honor their dad or something their opponent isn’t going to hit one into the stands to even up the score.

You honestly expect a guy to run out of bounds?? That’’s crazy. People have very short careers in the NFL – you have to take absolutely every single yard anybody gives you.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 7, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I thought the idea of it was touching, but to do it in a real live NFL game is incredibly stupid.

Also they ran a run play – is that taking advantage of it? If they had run a play action with a pump fake to pull the lone safety to one side and burned them for a 60 yard pass I might agree, but I still think it’s the Skins fault for doing something so stupid.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 7, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yep, I remember that play now.

I also remember that being an awful loss for me to deal with as a Skins fan.

by ahoque24 on Jan 6, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a tragic loss

He had a great career ahead of him. He also went out like a bad ass, protecting his home and family. Seemed like a great guy.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Just to respectfully submit an opposing viewpoint...

The past few summers, my wife and I have visited a few baseball stadiums that I’ve never been to before, just for the experience. We’ve been to Cleveland, Houston, the new Mets field and the old Yankee Stadium. I always buy a new hat as a souvenir when I’m there. They end up being my yardwork hats, but I like having them to remind me of the trips we took. My wife isn’t a baseball fan at all, but she enjoys the experience of going (although waiting out a rain delay, then sitting through an extra-inning game in the drizzle in Cleveland was almost too much).

I even (get the ban-hammer out) rooted for the Yankees against the hated (or mildly disliked) Angels. Mussina was pitching, so it didn’t hurt too much.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 6, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I also buy team apparel when I visit other parks

My favorite is my racing sausages shirt from Milwaukee. I wear it a lot, along with my Royals tee. Doesn’t make me less of an Orioles fan. The only places I didn’t buy any apparel was at Fenway Park and Yankee Stadium, although when I was at the old Yankee Stadium for the second-to-last game there (Brian Burres pitched a gem!) I did buy a commemorative glass with the years of Yankee Stadium on it. Why not?

by Stacey on Jan 6, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, can't do it

the only minor exception I have is I own a Raven Ray Rice jersey since he’s my favorite college player ever. However, I very rarely wear it and, if I’m out watching the Ravens, will generally opt to wear my Rutgers 27 instead.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

After we parted ways last Sunday

We ended up at this little bar right by Julia’s house sitting next two three Steelers fans who were alternating between cursing about how much they hate Ray Rice and lamenting that the Steelers didn’t draft him.

Also one of the Steelers fans was at the bar by himself and when he found out the other Steelers fans were also Yankees fans, same as him, there was a lot of high fiving and “best of the best!” comments. It was fun watching them watch the Ravens win.

by Stacey on Jan 6, 2012 9:34 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Wow, fuck those guys.

However, I wish the Giants had gotten Ray as well, but I would have loved him on the Giants even if he was a change of pace 3rd RB. He’s just awesome.

Of course, the Giants were picking last that year and he didn’t fall to us in the 2nd round. I guess I can deal with that given the circumstances. I was overjoyed that he went to the Ravens though. There were 5 teams I wanted him on, and the Ravens were my 2nd choice. If he was a Cowboy or an Eagle I don’t know what I’d do.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I always wondered what riding on the bandwagon would be like…

by Steven_G on Jan 6, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I have no problem wearing a Mariners hat when I go to Safeco,

though of course I wear an Oriole hat to Orioles games. Although I’m not sure I could wear a hat of a division rival.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 6, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh why do you own a Nats hat??

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 6, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

This is my Nats hat...

Except that mine has blue trim on those outer sections of the brim. Not sure how I keep getting such unique baseball hats.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

When the Nationals came to town

I fancied following them, because why not? No conflict. But after watching a few games I realized I can’t stand national league baseball.

by Stacey on Jan 6, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll admit

I went to a Nats game when the new ballpark opened and I bought a fitted hat. I’ve never worn it since. I remember being happy when I bought it, and I feel ashamed.

by PhilR8 on Jan 6, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I own a hat for almost every team in baseball.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I was about to say something like this for Abreu as well

If DD gets through an offseason without repeating the deacade-long mistake of signing an aging hitter I will consider it a win in and of itself.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#deep breath#

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 6, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually...
There’s $54MM remaining on the 35-year-old left fielder’s contract and his no-trade clause allows him to block trades. The Cubs would presumably have to absorb upwards of $40MM to facilitate a deal.

The Cubs would have to absorb $53 million to facilitate a deal. Even then I’m not a fan of this unless (Achilles forbid) Reimold tears something in Spring Training.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

We could sign a much cheaper option per year than Soriano

In fact, we already had him: Luke Scott. He’s basically a whitebread Alfonso.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 6, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually...

Luke Scott’s been a better hitter when he’s healthy. In four years as an Oriole, Scott averaged an .843 OPS (121 OPS+). In five years as a Cub, Soriano averaged an .818 OPS (109 OPS+).

Neither player should even own a fielding glove.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually...

I may be using “Actually…” as a subject line too much.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I think they'd have to trade for Abreu.

Which makes it worse in some ways. Kind of like… trading for Kevin Millwood.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 6, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather have Manny than Abreu

at least that has the potentially to be interesting.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 6, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

On the other hand...

… we have to be concerned that he might get pregnant and be out for 9 months.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

au contraire

the 50 was reduced from 100, and he has already agreed to it.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, never mind.

I remember something happening with his suspension, but didn’t remember what. I should have realized I was wrong as soon as I typed 50 games, since he was already suspended for 50 games in ’09.

by ahoque24 on Jan 6, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha...totally meaningless video game anecdote:

One of the first things I did in MLB 11 as the O’s GM was sign Manny Ramirez and let him play for half a season. He played well enough that I was able to trade him to the Giants for a temporarily underperforming Madison Bumgarner.

Of course we all know that life TOTALLY imitates videogames, right?

by Chanumas on Jan 6, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I've never played any of the new generation baseball games

because I’ve only been playing PC games, and I’ve been made to understand that the ports suck. But now I have access to an xbox. Am I missing out by not playing the MLB games?

by DaveAA on Jan 6, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

You'd be much better off with a PS3

The Show series (which is only available for the playstation) is LEAPS and BOUNDS better than the MLB series that’s available on the xBox and Wii

by Chanumas on Jan 6, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, the MLB series is not being produced anymore.

I’m pretty sure that they lost their rights to player names.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Check that.

There will be MLB 2K12. I gots da bad info.

That being said, PS3’s a neener neener and Xbox rocks.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Is MLB Bobblehead Pros available on XBox Live?

From what I understand, it’s a tweak on the MLB Power Pros formula, and those games are great.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 6, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

MLB 2k sucks hard

but I guess it’s better than nothing. MLB the Show is the tits.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I felt that way about Papelbon

Manny I’d suffer through, but it’s nowhere near as bad as Papelbon would have been.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

i hear you...

i feel like manny is still sort of more along the lines of a loveable scoundrel than a full on baseball villain. papelbon just really irritates me.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 6, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno...

Manny’s done his fair share of deplorable stuff:
- physically assailing an elderly clubhouse attendant
- allegations of domestic violence
- There’s also this story about how he could be a dick at a much smaller scale

But I really try not to associate a player’s personality with their performance. Most (but not all) professional athletes live their whole lives being coddled and having their asses kissed, which leads to all sorts of senses of entitlement. I have a feeling that if I personally knew any of the players I root for, I wouldn’t like them. So I try to just look at them purely from a production standpoint.

by Chanumas on Jan 6, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

this is true.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 6, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I fear that if Manny and Jeremy ever met

it would be like matter and anti-matter. The end of the universe as we know it.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 6, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

oh, for pete's sake...

more soriano speculation. boo.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 6, 2012 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

New Camden Chat contest...

Put together the oldest legitimately possible Opening Day lineup.

- The following section of the lineup brought to you by “Matlock: The Movie”
2B – Orlando Cabrera
LF – Alfonso Soriano
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The following section of the lineup brought to you by Pampers -
RF – Nick Markakis
C – Matt Wieters
SS – JJ Hardy
DH – Mark Reynolds
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The following section of the lineup brought to you by Depends —
1B – Derrek Lee
3B – Eric Chavez
CF – Endy Chavez

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

What the deuce?

Why did it strikeout everything?

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Cuz you used dashes

A dash around words causes it to strikeout

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

, cried the queen...

if I had two…

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

and the king laughed....

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

As duck sez, PREVIEW is yer friend

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

You know what I totally dicked up about this?

The O’s could sign Scott to play LF and trade for Soriano to play 2B! Even worse defense, so it makes it totally something the O’s would do.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

IMPORTANT THE WIRE UPDATE

I don’t like the theme for Season 2 as much as the 1st one.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 6, 2012 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

i LOVE the season 2 theme...

but i think season one is the best.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 6, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

my rankings...

blind boys of alabama
waits
baltimore kids
earle
neville bros.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 6, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Steve is great

and I love his musical stylings…
but Tom Waits is the king.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 6, 2012 12:00 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Not to mention it's his song originally

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't improve upon perfection

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 6, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

"Melewski: Fans looking for a total rebuild by Orioles will likely not get one"

While you couldn’t be righter in flushing this one down the tell-us-sth-we-DON’T-know loo, our guy Steve also made a fine mathematical pt, ahem: “A full rebuild mode would mean likely even more losses than the 98, 96 and 93 the Orioles have endured the past three years.”

Am I the only one who sees this?!? We are now proceeding at a loss-reduction rate of -2 (over 2009-10), -3 (over 2010-11)… meaning 2012 will be -4, ‘13 is -5 and so on. So, no wonder PA sez If we just shut up and sit tight, everything’ll be swell one day soon…as in 2039, when we will lose 31 fewer games than in 2009, leaving us at a very competitive 95-67.

So, we’ll all be a little older then. So what? Hey, do you want to win or what?!?

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 9:47 AM EST reply actions  

I know you mean well

but you’ve just made me consider jumping off the Key Bridge.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 6, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, take a numbder and line up like everybody else! There IS no Express Jumping line here!

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Not enough data points.

Maybe it’s additive (2012 will be -2 + -3 = -5, and so on), in which case, I may yet see them competitive again in my lifetime. Gotta be positive!

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 6, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I know it's not the point, but your math is way off. :P

64-98 (2009)
66-96 (2010)
69-93 (2011)
73-89 (2012)
78-84 (2013)
84-78 (2014)
91-71 (2015)
99-63 (2016)

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 6, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I was told there would be no math

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

If you want to start trouble,

try to pluralize your numbers.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 6, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, I like the sound o' that!

Def my ballpark: theoretically, Russian has 18 ways of saying “one” (3 genders, 6 cases).

Hah-ha, beech-ess! ’Dat plural enough for everybodies?!?

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

In Korean, the number system changes based on what one is counting...

I know two of them, but counting money, counting rocks, and counting people are all different. I’m not sure how many total numbering systems there are.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Japanese has something similar.

From what little I learned (and even less that I recall), it’s just a different suffix.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 6, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

For Korean, the two systems that I know are...

1 → 2 → 3 → 4 → 5
hana → dul → set → net → dasoth
il → yi → sam → sa → oh

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm, lemme try: one dead loathsome dictator, one doofus successor named Junior, one starving population...

Jeez, kinda seems like the same number system across the board…

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Fuck me.

I’m actually okay with that.

(Because it gives more hope about winning that currently exists.)

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously.

Winning record in 2014, playoffs by 2016? That would be awesome.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 6, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention

winning every game in 2022 and beyond.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 6, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Even the universe has to retract after it expands so far

What if last year was the end of our “expansion”?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I predict a 95 loss season

And calls for Buck and Duquette’s jobs by mid-April, if not sooner.

by Steven_G on Jan 6, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Guy named Steve [above] has a pretty good place in line on the jumping bridge

Play your cards right…

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd get upset about it

but meh… what’s one more… one thing that I took from the Melewski article was that the Orioles really haven’t rebuilt, only really half-assed it. This year seems yet another half-asses efforts full of pitchers who might make a good number 5 guy or will be career minor-leaguers. I’m not at the point where I’m buying a Nationals hat, probably will never do that, and I remain a fan, but will likely not attend any games this year. Hard to be excited about this group of players, and yet I still would not trade away Jones, Markakis or Wieters, all of which I think could do much better with better pieces around them. They need a pair of good pitchers who can compete in the AL East, almost an entire infield (1st, 2nd, 3rd), and a real bullpen beyond 1 guy. So yeah, hard to get excited… in fact I might revise my prediction to 97 losses… but I could just be in a bad mood today.

by Steven_G on Jan 6, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

The biggest thing I'm excited for at this point is Machado's debut

How sad is that, really?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not.

It should be years off and yet so many eggs have been put in the Machado basket we cannot rely on this kid to ride and save the day, plus the SS situation is one of the few somehat bright spots on the team. Feelings are the same with Bundy. Call it selfish, but many of us fans are tired of waiting, watching other teams start to have just a winning season and having their rebuilds pay off. We are in perpetual rebuild mode, and two players who we shouldn’t see for three or four years during which time we could complete a decent rebuild.

by Steven_G on Jan 6, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with all that

That doesn’t change the fact that it’s the most exciting thing I can think of about the O’s right now. Maybe watching Wieters (hopefully) evolve for another season or the pitchers bouncing back some, but that’s it. What else is there to be excited about.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I am excited about seeing if Wieters can continue his offensive development (to match is unrivaled defensive prowess).

If he goes for .290 / .340 / .500 in 2012, I would never be able to stop giggling with joy. Those numbers are also eminently reasonable. He’s gone for a .340 OBP in the past. His highest SLG is .450, but he drove the ball better than ever in 2011 and with the increased batting average, the SLG would rise naturally.

If he goes for .300 / .375 / .550, I might die.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

See, I'm excited about that

but the fact that it will all be for nothing because this team is horrible limits my excitement.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, there's always the possibility that the pitching improves...

Team ERA of 4.89 in 2011. Yeah, that’s a horrible starting point, especially after two straight “Years of the Pitcher”.

That being said, our bullpen is average (Gregg aside). If the starters could just put up a 4.50 ERA instead of a 5.50 ERA, the O’s would be a .500 team (I know, I know… but small steps). I could see Guthrie, Wada, and even Eveland going for 4.50 or better. Arrieta? Sure. Britton? Yeah.

I mean, it’s possible.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

If Wieters goes .300/.375/.550 we'll all be experiencing the rapture.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 6, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Having watched him a few times last year, he's still a long ways away.

I don’t want to see him at Camden in 2012 barring some miraculous leap.

Will work for Recs.

by Wieters Wieners on Jan 6, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

2014

Schoop, Machado, Wieters batting 2, 3, 4.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

duck's daughter's softball team's starter has filled in for us in the past

But that’s pretty much over, I’m thinkin’, now that she’s with Boras

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

britton, Bundy

no?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, 2012's 4th overall pick and 2013's 1st overall pick!

Ace starting pitchers, developed in house!

(Fuck, I’m still at work… should I not be drunk?)

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

No wonder we get 84 wins!

I trust Vuff.

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I Predict a Riot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hamKl-su8PE

Sorry, everything has been making me think of songs and Oregon Trail apparently.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow. Just wow. Who'd-a thunk Steve Melewski would verify the unified field theory?!?

Or whatever.

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

et tu amber?

amber hearts the nats. sorta.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 6, 2012 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

it's impossible to deny that 3 or 4 years ago they were in much worse shape than us

and now they’re at least in the wildcard conversation. I don’t wish them any ill, but fuck that shit.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 6, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

They haven't had any real success yet.

They did better than the O’s, sure, but I’ll believe the nats will be in playoff contention when I see it.

by DaveAA on Jan 6, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

This

Oh, except not wishing them ill

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean, nothing personal, of course, but f#ck them and their whole douchebag AAA+ league right in the ear

And the bunghole Japanese Central League while you’re at it

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

also,

did Amber really grow up an Orioles fan? That alone puts her above heidi.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 6, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

meh

HIEDI :P

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 6, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah that body is taut

it isn’t the handstand that I’m looking at, just the overall athletic/acrobatic ability. Heidi > *

by PhilR8 on Jan 6, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

this!

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 6, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

this!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

TL just hates when they wear tennis shoes on the Metro.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 6, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah.

It’s just when they wear them work attire.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

if you're in love...

….you should probably at least spell her name correctly.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Ouch.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Jan 6, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I do that all the time, haha.

The hour of morning doesn’t help.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 6, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

come on, you're better than that.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 6, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I know.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 6, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I think she makes some good points...
You have to wonder how Orioles fans feel about what the Nationals are doing 35 miles away.

Taking off my journalistic hat for a moment, I’ll be honest. As an O’s fan, I feel extremely envious.

Werth signing aside, is there an O’s fan that wouldn’t want the team to have drafted Strasburg, developed Jordan Zimmerman, traded for Clippard, and extended Ryan Zimmerman?

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

She does go a little off the rails here...
Throw a Fielder in the Birds’ lineup or a top-of-the-rotation pitcher and I truly believe the O’s could finally begin to compete in the American League East. Their lineup is pretty solid as it is.

The lineup would be good with Fielder.

However, the O’s are not an ace away from competing. They’re a 1, 2, 4, and 5 starter away from a rotation and a closer, LOOGY, and 3 more relievers away from a bullpen.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

And to paraphrase a Tweet my brother sent, they have plenty of competition for the number 5 slot… I agree that they have a number 3, but he’s trade bait right now.

I also agree that Fielder makes the infield situation better but by no means complete as they need a better third baseman, and a healthy second baseman. I’m not sold on Moldy in the OF either but why not give him a full year out there.

by Steven_G on Jan 6, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

The O's were 7th in the American League in runs in 2011.

Prince Fielder would effectively replace Vlad Guerrero in the lineup.

Fielder put up 135 runs created in 2011. Vlad put up 67. The 68 run differential would have boosted the O’s to 5th, just behind Detroit. That’s a good lineup, even if names like Reimold at LF or Reynolds at 3B don’t knock your knickers off.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

lineup issues are nothing for this team

like really? mediocre lineup ain’t losing us 95 games. Gotta get the other guys out.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 6, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

For what it's worth, the O's had a lot of guys go for better than average OPS+ in 2011.

Markakis (109), Reynolds (119), Jones (114), Wieters (113), Reimold (113), Guerrero (barely, 101), Hardy (117).

The O’s lack the great 120 OPS+ players, but their issues with putting up a .500 record are almost exclusively on the pitching side. They would probably need a slight increase in offense (such as Fielder) to get into the offensive territory of a 90 win team.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess I’m think less on offensive power of these guys and more in terms of defense that they bring to field as well as offense. When I’m talking about an upgrade from Reynolds, I suppose I mean more so defensively, but it almost seems you can have one or the other. Guess I’m greedy here, but you are correct, pitching is the number one concern, and getting Fielder means nothing if your pitching doesn’t improve and you get a #1 and #2 guy.

by Steven_G on Jan 6, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I had a conversation similar to this with my wife not too long ago.

My wife has a long running joke that she has never been to a game that the Orioles have won, over the decade-plus we’ve been together

We have a 16 month old daughter. In her short life, she’s been to four baseball games….two at Camden Yards, two at Nationals’ stadium (one of which was against the O’s).

The O’s lost all three of the games they were involved in, and the Nats won both of the games they were in. I would imagine, with the two teams’ respective directions, this will continue.

On top of that, there’s a lot more “fun” things at Nationals park, like the Presidents’ Race and the Pups in the Park, which my daughter absolutely adored.

I do wonder if she’ll decide to be a Nats fan when she grows up, if things don’t change in her formative years.

by Chanumas on Jan 6, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

If I have a kid...

They’re seeing minor league games almost exclusively for the first 6 or 7 years. I don’t want them becoming obsessed with something that can make you so miserable all the time. Let them have fun (and let me save money) and then they can decide if baseball should be more than passing entertainment or not.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't stand that.

I don’t mind animals in the least bit, but I don’t want one sitting in a seat.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree

but it’s one game a year, so I just wouldn’t go to that game. Still, keep your dogs and their poop away from me and my baseball.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't wanna sit in that seat the game after either.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, the Nats do this a couple times a year.

I think 2011 had 3 such games. I approve of it because:

1) They’re not selling out every game. If the dogs are getting seats instead of humans, that’s one thing, but that simply isn’t the case. The O’s should have this promotion every game, just to get bodies into the stands.

2) The promotion is limited to three sections in the OF, so if you don’t like dogs or just don’t want to be near them at a ballgame, it’s really easy to avoid.

3) There’s a designated waste depositing area. They sodded a portion of the concourse (away from food) for this.

4) The proceeds go to helping the Humane Society.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

So just donate money to the Humane Society.

Why do the dogs need to be allowed in the park to do that?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Because it's fun.

It’s not a regular thing, so it can be controlled, and both my dog and my daughter LOVED it

by Chanumas on Jan 6, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure your dog was keenly aware that he/she was watching baseball.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

How is that fun for anyone?

Dogs shitting in a baseball stadium.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

people who have dogs

enjoy spending time with their dogs. makes sense to me.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 6, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I used to own a dog. Enjoyed spending time with him too.

In fact, I spent every day with him considering that he lived in my house. Didn’t require him sitting in a seat that some human was going to sit in later.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Little known fact:

Humans shit in a baseball stadium, too.

Both humans and dogs did it in their assigned places.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Coming from the person who shits in the kitchen

I bet you’re the one guilty of not shitting in his assigned place!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm secretly KGB

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard that

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I should expose you as the other agent.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

There are three of them and Alleline

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

My dog obviously has no idea what baseball is

no matter how much I try to make him watch games with me…

But he loved riding down and hanging out with the other dogs. Plus, like I said. It’s fun.

by Chanumas on Jan 6, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Note the picture above.

Both my sister’s dog and the dog in front of us (name was Murray and he was awesome… had a Nats visor on for most of the game) had a great time (dog owners are keenly aware of their dog’s emotional state) and were actively watching the ball. Even if they were only recognizing the movement and not the actual rules of the game, that still puts them ahead of the 5,000 fans that never look up from their phone the entire game (/Dibble’d, but for offenders of both genders).

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

This is one of the more ridiculous things I've ever heard.

Next time you’re in any stadium take a look around at the disgusting humans sitting in the seats.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 6, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

For example...

Which is worse to see at a game?

Or…

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That dog isn't sitting in a seat so I don't really understand the comparison.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there an image of a dog pissing in a seat?

If not, would you rather have a dog sit in a seat or that disgusting fat shit sitting in a seat?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 6, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

FTFY
Only if she’s shitting on my lap.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, this may have been a little too far...
…that disgusting fat shit…

I posted the picture because she’s not exactly a looker, but there’s still a line, I’d think. She’s not exactly doing anything inherently disgusting like dropping food all over the place or rubbing sweaty skin on the seat.

Perhaps I should have used this guy instead…

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

eh.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 6, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

rec

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 6, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather have neither.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Spring for the corporate boxes.

Otherwise deal with it.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 6, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

2 for sure

I for one love the VS MLB stuff. There is an identical outfit tailored towards the Orioles, and if I see a girl like that proudly wearing Orioles merch that’s colored correctly (they all use the appropriate team colors), then I’m all for it.

by PhilR8 on Jan 6, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Rather the Yanks babe.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

rather have that is

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yanks hottie, hands down.

Full disclosure… my fiance looked strikingly similar to that when I first met her. However, she loved baseball, so I took it as a positive. With time she learned how evil the Yankees are and became a depressed Orioles fan.

I do still love Raffy though.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

full disclosure

implies pics to substantiate your claim

by PhilR8 on Jan 6, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

this.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

here you go

enjoy.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 6, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't see the picture that was posted

But I can corroborate that Dave’s fiance is a hottie.

I feel silly saying hottie.

by Stacey on Jan 6, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I was talking more about the Yankees apparal

but thank you. She also was skinny and blonde, so I guess it’s pretty accurate anyway.
(She’s still skinny, just brunette now).

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh...

thank you by the way

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I already said thank you

Well, thanks again. Again.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

zing!

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Ouch...

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Where are birdman and Westie when you really need a good dog-and-your-sister joke?

There, I think I’ve offended three people w/ one subject line. Hey, you think this is easy?!?

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

One of the Orioles games in Pittsburgh last year had this promotion

We weren’t in that section, but it was in the section above us and it was just barking dogs the entire game. I was annoyed.

by Stacey on Jan 6, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

ugh i didn' t even think about the barking

how fucking irritating

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Must be bad Pittsburgh dogs...

I don’t remember very much barking at all at the Nats game.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe it started with one annoying dog

and once he started barking it riled some other dogs up.

by Stacey on Jan 6, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like Red Sox fans chanting at an O's games.

Just gotta bring up Robert Andino and they’ll shut up.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

i think there's a dog blog somehwere on SBN too.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

agreed.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Usually the promotions are widely advertised

and only people who don’t get irritated by things like that go to them. This is also the reason they generally do it during mid-week day games that they don’t anticipate big crowds for.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 6, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to see a Camden Cats promotion

Kitties in the Yard, that kinda thing.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

...

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

hee hee

exactly. boxes are like crack to a cat.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

or paper grocery bags

mine love those things

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 6, 2012 2:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Pussies at the Park.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 6, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha this.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

that would certainly get a lot of attendnace.....

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

My friend gave me a Christmas card this year

On the front it said:

You better watch out
You better not cry
You better not pout
I’m telling you why

then inside it said

Because Santa Clause hates pussies.

It was so shocking! And she got it right in Hallmark. I enjoyed showing it to people at the NYE party and watching their faces as they opened it and read the inside.

by Stacey on Jan 6, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha that's awesome

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 6, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

the other one is that stupid movie

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

or the actual word clause

Which is what I was thinking of I guess.

by Stacey on Jan 6, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Happens every PHN or MFY game.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 6, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

What about a Birds of Prey night

We could teach ’em to dive-bomb the Yankees and Red Sox fans.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 6, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

i'd prefer a Birds of War night, instead

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 6, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah I don't have a problem with the dog promotion

Because it’s not the whole stadium, so even if you want to go to the game you can sit where there aren’t dogs. Although the barking was annoying.

by Stacey on Jan 6, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I mean I love dogs, but I’ve never gone to one of those and know my dogs aren’t well-behaved enough to be in busy public place for that long. Also I would probably be annoyed by other owners doing stupid things.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 6, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Responsible owners is the key to a successful Pups in the Park

If they have ill-behaved dogs or are not paying attention, I could see it being a problem.

My sister’s dog, the dog in front of us, and the three hot chicks’ dog next to me were all impeccably behaved.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

ugh
there’s a lot more "fun" things at Nationals park, like the Presidents’ Race and the Pups in the Park, which my daughter absolutely adored.

another sign of the coming downfall of baseball as a sport

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Although it is sorta worth a laugh that Teddy never wins.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't doubt that toddlers would be bored by baseball

I just feel that the more the stadiums dump peripheral crap into the game experience, the more they contribute to the notion that the game itself isn’t worth learning in depth.

Or to put it more plainly: fans who come to the park because of dot races and hot dog cannons will not contribute to the survival of baseball when it needs it in a decade or two.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, if you equate the ballpark with "fun" at an early age...

…the appreciation of the game will come after they’re old enough to understand it

by Chanumas on Jan 6, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe

or maybe when thy get older, they realize dot races are kind of stupid.

my first visit to a ballpark was when I was 10 years old. there was none of that stuff going on.

i had just started to play baseball in elementary school. my dad explained scoring to me and we sat in very top of the upper deck. it was a magical night. and i was an instantly-minted baseball fan for life.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll get back to you when my daughter is 10

By then, hopefully she’ll have been to at least a few dozen baseball games

by Chanumas on Jan 6, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Similar experience.

My first game was actually at Anaheim Stadium, but I was just over 1 and didn’t have a clue what was happening. Probably slept through the entire game.

First game I remember was at Camden Yards. Hadn’t started to play little league ball, but I signed up pretty soon after because I had a great time.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I remember my first game...sorta.

It was Memorial Stadium, and I was in kindergarten.

It was against the A’s…..and the O’s won. I distinctly remember somebody…maybe Eddie Murray?…hitting a home run and it caused this beer billboard to simulate pouring.

by Chanumas on Jan 6, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Gah! The advertising!

That billboard probably caused you to start drinking.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

In Memorial Stadium

the Natty Boh sign would light up with strobe lights after a home run….

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Nowadays you'd probably be sued for destroying the minds of children.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

What year was that?

You may have been at my first game, too.

Memorial Stadium. O’s win 4 – 2 over A’s. We sat in the upper deck straight behind home plate. Had my little glove and everything.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

1982......

It miiiiight be this one here….

But if that’s the case, then it looks like it was John Lowenstein who hit the homer.

Damn, I’m old.

by Chanumas on Jan 6, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah...

Mine was either June 17 or 18 in 1989.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Mine was I THINK in 1977

when Mark Belanger hit his yearly homer at Memorial. Bounced off the LF foul poul, MAYBE 10 feet up..

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 6, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

i will never forget

the Blade hitting a dinger off of Gossage, who was the premiere reliever of the time.

It probably happened because the pitch was thrown so fast. It cleared the RIGHT field wall by about a centimeter.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

My first was a Rochester Red Wings game

in 1962. Can’t remember which game, but I do remember voting for Pete Ward as My Favorite Red Wing (the only name I could read), and he only played for the Wings in ’62.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 6, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Baseball is either going to adapt or it's going to die.

In terms of pure action, our ADHD society is going to go for football, basketball, or even hockey. In terms of experience, baseball can still win.

Baseball, for watching the game, is far better on TV. Baseball, for the experience, is far better in real life.

I mean, if tradition is to reign, then every stadium should serve nothing but basic hot dogs. Would Camden Yards be the same without the smoke / smell from Boog’s drifting up from Eutaw? Don’t you smile a little bit when you see The Bird stomping on the visitors’ dugout? Don’t you miss “Thank youuuuuuuuuu”?

I think it’s the entire package that makes baseball attractive as entertainment for three hours. Yeah, some people love to keep a scorebook, but the vast majority don’t.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I do miss "thank youuuuuuu"

….. and the Bird was around 30 years ago.

I don’t, however, need rally monkeys, “MAKE SOME NOISE”, dot races, or “hey……” (stolen from the Yankees of all places).

Baseball is dying anyway through its stewards’ utter disinterest in preserving some measure of competitive balance. What would get more people going to baseball games would be a situation where the season’s outcome wasn’t 60-70% predetermined on April 1.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, that was one of the weirder formatting glitches

it said “hey!….. ho!…..”

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Salary cap.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

this.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

attendance keeps going up though.

I don’t know about ratings.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 6, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

overall attendance, sure

but not everywhere. certainly not in baltimore and a number of other small markets.

and attendance in the the big towns will eventually max out. to keep baseball relevant, you need to have fans everywhere in the country—not just in 8-10 major markets.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

...
Baseball is dying anyway through its stewards’ utter disinterest in preserving some measure of competitive balance. What would get more people going to baseball games would be a situation where the season’s outcome wasn’t 60-70% predetermined on April 1.

This, I agree with.

I don’t, however, need rally monkeys, "MAKE SOME NOISE", dot races, or "hey……" (stolen from the Yankees of all places).

I don’t need or care for those, but they don’t detract from my enjoyment, either.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

baseball is dying?

Didn’t they just have one of their best seasons in terms of popularity?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 6, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

In terms of aggregate numbers, yes.

However, it’s becoming the 99% and the 1%, but on a sports field.

Fans in Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Seattle, Oakland, and Cleveland are not doing well.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Baseball's been dying for 50 years

The last World Series will be played in 2042.

by Holymittens on Jan 6, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 6, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

well

as long as it lasts long enough for me to see the London Kings win the Planetary League World Series, I’ll die a happy man.

by PhilR8 on Jan 6, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

On a side note...

No, mascots are not always okay…

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Pound polls indicate that most dogs prefer National League games, apparently because the "strategy" involved

in no-DH substitutions is at a level they can appreciate but humans can’t. Sound cycles are too high or sth.

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

So I get a notice about updates last night

for my work computer. So rather than take my laptop home as a normally would, I leave it here so it can do it’s thing and then restart over night. On my way in, I get stuck in traffic because 83 was basically shut down due to a major accident. I call in and the boss asks if I wanted to work from home instead. I said, no, I left the computer there for the updates. Now, the computer just now starts the updates, and now I ahve to reboot… I love our IT department.

by Steven_G on Jan 6, 2012 10:28 AM EST reply actions  

So in case you'd forgotten or are on drugs or both, 2-nite it's the Milo Minderbinder Egyptian Cotton Bowl, w/ K-State v. Arkingsaw [-9].

And the recently-juiced-up Mildcats just happen to be my Flyer of the Bowl Season pick. Go ahead ‘n’ laugh! You’ll be eatin’ that Snickers outta the other side of your cake-hole tomorrow!

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

Really??? That's on??? Classic! When do we get to Irrelevant Bowl?

I’ll duck like the Germans at Stalingrad now. :>

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 6, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

We've been at Irrelevant Bowl since Dec. 17

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Watch out: Irrelevant never forgets!

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

SERIOUSLY, WHEN DOES THIS SHIT END?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Never.

The games end next week, but you’ll be hearing about preseason polls for the next 6 months.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Never-er!

Or at least not until I cash in.

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey Titov...

… should we do an offseason recruiting update every day? We could also do coverage of spring games.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

co-sign on this

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 6, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Maryland just got...

1) A New Mexico transfer (but a local kid).
2) Two 3/4 star LB recruits.
3) A 4 start RB.

I’m not a fan of Locksley, because I think he’s a douche, but he can apparently recruit the local area well.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

BANNED

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep, you ALWAYS want to keep up with the latest!

I start every day with a heaping bowl of the Breakfast o’ Champions followed by a quick look at

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/teamrank/2012/all/all

Today’s good news is that No. 17 Snodfart remains 1 recruiting ranking-pt. up on No. 18 U$C. Ahahaha. Barkley-Shmarkley. Wailing ‘n’ gnashing of teeth in Heritage Hall.

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

bwahahahahahaha

subtle. and also very appreciated.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

REC

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Say, do they have pointless, repetititve NFL bloggery and pools -- plus the More Fabulous Ravens Stuff Now?!?

Oh wait…

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

don't get testy now

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I was considering adding him into my O's-Angels 29 trades thing

I don’t want him, but it’s probably realistic for any trade involving the Angels.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

ah, but...

w/ a bunch of guys that can hit for decent power, a dh w/ a pretty good OBP is another way to skin a cat.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Jan 6, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Nick Markakis underwent surgery for a torn abdominal muscle yesterday

http://www.camdenchat.com/2012/1/6/2687087/nick-markakis-underwent-significant-abdomen-surgery-yesterday

So, that’s great. Updates will be in that thread.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 6, 2012 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

Maybe he's getting implants to try and impress O'sfan21

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

In other news

Nick Markakis is entering the season looking stronger than ever!

by Benhem612 on Jan 6, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Best shape of his life!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Yay.

That is such an Orioles thing to happen.

by Chanumas on Jan 6, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Heh-heh, heh-heh. He said "rectus."

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

stress related?

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 6, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Nick has an abdominal muscle?

Skinny fucker.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 6, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

RIIIIIISK

?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

yessir

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Although I haven't seen much of the usual gang here.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

well whaddya expect

we’ve been talking abut baseball. who wants to talk about baseball??

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 6, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

truth...we must have scared everyone off.

I’ll help bring everyone back….BOOBS, PORN, JESSICA SIMPSON, BOOOOOBS…..bike lanes.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

TEABAGGING

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

i think that's not enough.

sigh.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Reeeeewwwwaaaaarrrrrrd?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

ha ha

this is like a game of “password”

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

i can play after 1:00

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 6, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

did this game start yet?

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 6, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

no.

i was gone for a while.

should we shoot for 1:00 EST/10:00 PST?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

works fo' me

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

sho'

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 6, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

unless there's enough to go now?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Reporting for duty, sir.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

so, 1:00 then

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Is anything going to change in 9 minutes?

People are just magically going to be ready?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

i think GC will be back

and that’s what the folks above agree to.

i guess i’ll put it up now and people can play when they play.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll play.

And yes, I need to stretch and drink a beer first.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

YO WESTIE, WHERE ARE YOU, GAME'S UP!!

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Say there, young fellas: if you wanna play some REAL Risk-- who's for grabbing Siberia?!?

http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/28-12-2011/120104-siberia_russia_usa-0/

“This is not a joke already.” And this is not much of a translation already. But hack-trans aside, it’s kinda fun to see the ol Soviet-style faux-High Dudgeon crank a-turnin’ once again. Say what you want, but Zbig makes one terrific let’s-grab-Siberia bogeyman. Grr!

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's something to cheer you up...

The O’s have one 1st round pick (4th overall) in 2012.

The Blue Jays have the following 1st rounders: 17, 22, 48, 51, and 52.

The Red Sox spent more than the entire GDP of Tuvalu and have 24, 31, and 37.

The Cardinals won the World Series and have 19, 23, 36, and 50.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

but, 4!!

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Jan 6, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually,

given the financial limitations going forward, having the 4th overall pick is much, much better than those other picks. The CBA has its flaws, but I do like the idea that each team will draft the best available player.

Of course, if you can’t develop talent, your organization will continue to have top picks year after year, running over the same old ground…

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 6, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Man...Route 11 potato chips have gone downhill.

Those things used to rock….now they’re just flavorless fried potato slices.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

risk people I'm back!

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 6, 2012 1:24 PM EST reply actions  

same

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 6, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

so,

play?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

any day now.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

i just got the first e-mail

didn’t know you included me, my bad

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 6, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

(Insert nagging comment here)

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 6, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

So for the playoffs this weekend

Are we hoping that Denver pulls off a miracle and knocks out Pittsburgh so the Ravens can play them at home? Or do we hope that Pittsburgh and Houston win because the Steelers are more likely to beat the Patriots than the Bengals or Broncos?

by Stacey on Jan 6, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

Houston and Denver

physically incapable of rooting for the Squeelers

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 6, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

But I don’t have much faith in the Ravens winning on the road against NE.

by Stacey on Jan 6, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

New England didn't beat a team with a winning record this year

Screw NE and Tom Brady. The AFC Should be the Ravens or Pitt, and even at that the Ravens should win. The AFC is down down down this year. Time to take advantage.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

FTFY
The AFC other than the AFC North is down down down this year. Time to take advantage.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 6, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The Texans would be pretty awesome if not for the injuries.

Kinda feel bad for them.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

but that doesn’t change the fact that they are down because of it. On top of that you also have the Colts going from a 10+ win team every year to a 2 win team, so Houston being a bit better than last year doesn’t really make up for anything conference wise.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Well the Ravens and Steelers are still good

but I don’t think the Steelers are as strong as they have been the past few years. As for Cincy, do you really feel like they are a playoff team if the rest of the AFC wasn’t so down this year?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

i mean, it's pretty hard to say

did Cincy exceed everyone’s expectations this year? absolutely. but they can only play the teams on their schedule and took advantage of some easier match-ups, so props to them for not stumbling (as much) as some other teams did down the stretch.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 6, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Well sure, you play

but they still went 9-7 against that schedule, and beat the lesser teams. Nothing wrong with that, but if the AFC was as good as it was in previous years I’m just not so sure they get in.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

This

And I actually think the Ravens match up quite well against the Pats. Besides the fact that they have no defense, an obvious plus for us…

1) They lack speedy deep threat receivers, which have been a problem for us to contain.
2) We have LB’s and safeties that are big enough and athletic enough to contain Gronkowski and Hernandez
3) We have a good pass rush, so Brady will not have time to find the open receiver (this is truly the key to beating any of these high powered offenses like GB, NO, and NE)

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe what you meant to say was...


Pretty sure Dumervil got called for a 23762357 yard penalty for looking at Brady the wrong way, though.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I was quite disappointed that Brady didn't get more hurt on that play

I watched that live and started screaming HURT HIM HURT HIM as soon as I saw Dumervil was free, which kind of horrified my gf

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I could watch this for hours

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 7, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

And the Ravens lost on the road to garbage teams

Plus the defense has looked pretty sluggish of late. I’d rather the Ravens play the Steelers again at home. Although I will also be happy if PIT loses in the first round.

by Stacey on Jan 6, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

More! MORE!!!

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/

;)

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

MOOOAR!

http://morestupidshitaboutcollegefootballtheboringestsportever.com

;)

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

!!!

Youreobviouslysomekindacommunists.com

;)

We still suck, but on Sept. 29, 2011, we did a Very Cool Thing. Yeah, we did that.

by Titov on Jan 6, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

These last two links arent working for me...

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Ravens gotta play at home to make the Superbowl

So I’d like Houston and Pittsburgh to win, Houson @ Baltimore and Pitt @ NE next weekend. Then Pitt beats NE, Baltimore hopefully beats Houston, then AFC title game in Baltimore.

by PhilR8 on Jan 6, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Root for Houston to win, because we can beat them at home.

I’m not going to sweat what happens between Pitt and Denver if the Texans win. We can worry about that another week down the road.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 6, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Best case scenario...

Houston wins and comes to Baltimore (and then loses, duh).

God smites Pittsburgh and NE, and the Broncos come to Baltimore for the AFC Championship. God chooses his linebacker over his quarterback and the Ravens go on to the Super Bowl.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

With the record Baltimore has against mediocre opponents

I wouldn’t really want to play a shitty opponent like Denver

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 6, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

God has a linebacker on the Ravens?

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 6, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh absolutely

Ray Lewis has been captain of the God Squad for a decade now.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone should ask Tebow if God's ever helped him beat a murder rap.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Jan 6, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Even better.

Nobody even suspects Tebow of his murders.

by DaveAA on Jan 6, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

the Lord works in mysterious ways

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Jan 6, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of...

Did anyone else notice the MASSIVE LIP HERPES Tebow has been sporting in his interviews recently, notably on Sportscenter last night???

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

oh indeed

this is from 2006, but gives some good quote’s about why Ray is God’s linebacker

http://withleather.uproxx.com/2006/11/ray-lewis-gods-lb-a-deeper-look

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 6, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Tablet apps need the Z key like woah

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasn't working for me for a little too

I had to reload and then it started working again but I lost all the unreads…

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Jan 6, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm doing the best i can!

don’t be such a slavedriver!

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Cubs trade for Rizzo

link

The Cubs have acquired first baseman Anthony Rizzo and right-hander Zach Cates from the Padres for right-hander Andrew Cashner and outfielder Kyung-Min Na, the teams announced. The move provides the Cubs with a potential long-term first baseman and clears up first base in San Diego.

"The acquisition of Yonder Alonso provided us the flexibility to make this trade and acquire a quality, young power arm in Andrew Cashner," Padres GM Josh Byrnes said. "We are happy to add a pitcher with the pedigree of Cashner and an outfielder with the athleticism of Na."

The Cubs are presumably out of the running for free agent first baseman Prince Fielder with the acquisition of Rizzo.

Now I guess we overpay for Prince, being we’re about the only ones left.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 6, 2012 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

Nats

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

that wouldn't happen

if you bought one of their caps

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Andrew Cashner could be good.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

heh

my trade proposal for rizzo doesn’t look so bad.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 6, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

i honestly don't understand what San Diego is doing at all at this point

it’s like they’re dancing back and forth between rebuilding and trying to make a run at contending in the NL West

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 6, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

In that division, I think you can do both at the same time.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 6, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

fair point

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 6, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Cates looks like a very marginal prospect. Cashner is a good prospect (although he’s lost his rookie status) while I can’t find much on Na, but he looks like a very weak prospect.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 6, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

New RISK game about to happen.

Checking who’s in?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

i'll jump back in

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 6, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm in, but let's make it fast like the last one.

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 6, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

TWSS TWSS TWSS

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Jan 6, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't imagine.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

okay starting

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

reply fail

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow...this brings a whole new meaning to

“wounded soldiers”

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

Wow, AOL is still a thing?

I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James

by J(O's)elskIL on Jan 7, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

good stuff

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Jan 6, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice article,

kind of crystallizes some of my gripes with the way Adam Jones gets talked about around here. Dont get me wrong, I’d love to see him traded in a nice package, but I think he too often gets talked about as though he were a finished product

by brek on Jan 6, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

If we can’t get good, high-upside pitching prospects, the best gamble may be to get an extension signed. Given that the years of control will continue to decline, I can’t see his trade getting any better.

by j o incandenza on Jan 6, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Also,

some commenter pointed out that UZR at Camden Yards might be messed up, and pointed to Jones’ and Markakis’ home/away UZR splits. I haven’t had a chance to look into this but it’s an interesting theory. If Jones is truly a league-average center-fielder, defensively, he’s already a 4+ WAR player.

by j o incandenza on Jan 6, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know that anybody thinks he's a finished product

just that if we can get a good package for him we should do it. There are certainly some things about him that I don’t see improving, but I’m sure he’s got a little more ceiling than he’s showed.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Jan 6, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Star Wars people, go to Belgium

or not

Don’t think I’d have the guy on the left.

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 6, 2012 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

Just discovered yet another way around the Sun's page view limit

Simply Stop the page from loading before it loads to completion, so wait for the text to load and then hit stop before it finishes.

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

The Sun..... The Sun..... ?

Oh, THE SUN!

People still read that? I thought they’d gone out of business.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Apologies to Risk players for the delay.

But I was busy getting promoted.

First salaried (i.e. non-hourly) position I’ve had in 2 years.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 4:08 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

WOO HOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

good thing

they didn’t walk in to promote you only to find you were playing RISK

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, nobody's told me yet.

But when I tried to sign my timesheet today, it was all fucked up because I got switched from their internal staffing temp department to salaried employee.

So that’s how I know about it.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

ahahahahahaha

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate you and everything you stand for.

Although, since my salary went up by 55%, I doubt that I’m being Milton’d.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

$7.75 per hour now?

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 6, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Well you're over minimum wage, so that's a start.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

just anpther sign that the economy is picking up steam

you just became an “added job”

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

It's certainly better to be in that statistical category...

… than knowing that my numbers were contributing to unemployment / underemployment.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 6, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

But when I get a pay cut next year, does that cancel it out?

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 6, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Congrats!

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 6, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

that one wasn't really that funny

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

are they better than that?

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 6, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

The Onion is usually pretty funny.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Jan 6, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

it usually is

but that looked like it was slapped together in about 5 minutes.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Jan 6, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It was funny if you listen to NY sports talk

because it’s almost word for word what he actually said when asked about Manning next year and such. They just made it past tense.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Jan 6, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Showtime FreeView!

Been playing Assassin’s Creed Brotherhood and now I am watching the Borgias. Borgia overload.

by mdterps0325 on Jan 6, 2012 5:02 PM EST reply actions  

holy cow

Wizards 10 point lead!!!

When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says

by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 6, 2012 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

thankfully they won't lose 82 games this year!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 7, 2012 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

So, dead car.

Lost compression on all 4 pistons on our 14-year-old wagon. $2,800 for a used engine, BEFORE labor. That’s not gonna happen.

Guess I’m buying a truck in the next 2 months.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 6, 2012 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

how does a horse and buggy

lose compression?

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 6, 2012 10:39 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Farts!

When the fuck did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Jan 7, 2012 3:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Been a tough for you!

First the guitar now this. Thankfully the Orioles are trying to acquire Alfonso Soriano.

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Jan 7, 2012 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and the washer started its slow death over Christmas break.

The guitar, I was able to glue and so far, it’s playable. I know this isn’t a long-term fix, but maybe it gets me to the summer.

"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.

by duck on Jan 7, 2012 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

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