Saturday Bird Droppings
by Stacey on Jan 7, 2012 11:05 AM EST
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Eun Chul Choi is now an Oriole. Or a Tide, whatever.
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Wake Me When DD Signs a NORTH Korean Pitcher
Then I might be impressed with his international scouting contacts.
by TheTrapezoidConspiracy on Jan 7, 2012 11:24 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
that, my friend...
is a REC!
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 7, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Hey Stacey:
Power search is totally broken. I am trying to find the video of Jonesy gunning down Jeter on 4/24. I searched for “Adam” and “Jones” for that date and the date after and nothing came up. Then I searched for the word “and” and still nothing came up.
So meanwhile, does anyone know where that video would be? I guess I should try searching mlb.com…..
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
ahhhh
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Jan 7, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
SO GOOD!
classic on so many levels.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Jan 7, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Tangential
Boooooo! to Trader Joe’s for playing Sweet Caroline whilst I was perusing their offerings today.
Turned my stomach. Ick.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 7, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
NO.
We need to take the song back. Don’t let the red sox have it! It’s a decent song! it belongs to everyone! People shouldn’t listen to it and think “oh red sox.” They should listen to it and think “Oh that Neil Diamond, they just don’t make them like him”
Tommy hunter still sucks!
It’s a decent song!
False. It is a horrible song, Sawx or not.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
while i'm mucking around
here’s a few guys saying nothing new on the markakis surgery.
note that O’sFan21 is on the panel, criticizing Nick for not doing his surgery earlier.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Droid app
So I cant click the link using this sb app?
by Philly O's on Jan 7, 2012 11:52 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Makes me want this baseball season to start already.
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 7, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
choi, etc...
i like the o’s getting guys into korea. seems like japan gets all the press b/c the pro league there is more respected, but talent in taiwan and korea doesn’t get enough respect. i also like to see the o’s looking at the indie leagues and foreign leagues more.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
Haha.
I knew it hd to be a gorgeous day on the east coast, because this site is D-E-A-D today.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
my computer tells me it's in the mid-60s in charm city
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
And sunny, made it feel even warmer
I was jogging outside and was moderately concerned about getting sunburnt… in January. Love it. I’ll take as little winter as possible please.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 7, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
looks like rain...
naturally, i mean, i just washed my car this am. fahk.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
I don't find bare trees and dead leaves to be that beautiful
When it’s the spring and it’s like this, I’ll go outside.
BtB psoted their ranking of the top 12 O's prospects
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
Curious as to why Klein isn't on there at all
I'm not confused brother! I just took picture of my face, and it's deffo not my confused face. - Waj
by Christopher Claxton on Jan 7, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
multiple arm surgeries presumably?
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
by dfa on Jan 7, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's his rating system.
It’s unorthodox and puts very little value into relievers.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
Nice
to see fangraphs agreeing with a team’s view of a player, a team that doesn’t use sabermetrics. I guess, after the fact, sabermetrics has some value.
you, my friend, are breaking one of the primary rules of this blog
you’re pissing off a mod
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
by Andrew_G on Jan 7, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm glad I argued for the inclusion of that particular rule
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I might be the only poster here stoked on this, but...
I’m wondering if any of my fellow CCers will be at Sonar this evening for the Trapped Under Ice/every other band in hardcore show, if so, please say hi, ha.
by getxstoked on Jan 7, 2012 3:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I might be the only poster here stoked on this, but...
I’m wondering if any of my fellow CCers will be at Sonar this evening for the Trapped Under Ice/every other band in hardcore show, if so, please say hi, ha.
by getxstoked on Jan 7, 2012 4:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Phil Rogers suggests the Cubs take Brian Roberts for Alfonso Soriano.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Interesting.
A reasonable deal could have the Cubs sending Soriano and $9 million (half of Soriano’s 2012 salary) for Roberts and a prospect or two.
Well, that’s what Mr. Chicago Tribune says, but the Cubs must really be sour on Soriano to think about that deal. They’re basically taking $29M of dead money (plus maybe giving up a prospect or two) in order to get out from underneath $54M. That leaves the O’s on the hook for $45M to Soriano, but you can consider them being $20M to the good due to trading Roberts. So they’d need to get $25M of value across 3 years – which would be Soriano’s age 36, 37 and 38 seasons. He turned 36 today.
Looking at his last three seasons, I’m going to go ahead and say no thanks.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 7, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
And I think the Cubs should take Brian Roberts for...
Starlin Castro, Matt Garza, and Carlos Marmol… plus a prospect or two.
See Mr. Rogers, we all have our dreams.
wait, okay
so Soriano is due $54 million over the next three years. Roberts is owed $20 million over the next two years. They are both pretty much zeroes production-wise, though the edge definitely goes to Soriano, but neither of them are difference makers enough for the Orioles, so we’ll just say they’re both about zero production-wise in Baltimore.
Phil Rogers wants the Orioles to take on $25 million bucks, an additional year of wasted roster space, and give up a “prospect or two” while giving up an equally bad player who is pretty popular off the field?
Yeah, no thanks, pal.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Buster Olney tidbit on Andy Macphail
By the way: Some executives wonder if Andy MacPhail will eventually fill Torre’s old job.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
how does bud selig feel about sweater vests?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
Anybody here use spotify?
If so, is it awesome?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I used up a 6 month free trial and I liked it well enough at that price.
They had most everything I thought to try to listen to, with a few exceptions here and there. No Tool albums, for instance, or at least that was the case in the summer.
I didn’t like it enough to keep using it when the trial was over. I also think it has mandatory FB integration now, and it’s annoying if it’s going to force you to broadcast everything you’re playing on there.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 7, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
Ah
You just have to select “private session” and it won’t do that.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
2,000 ways to take this out of context and make it dirty.
You just have to select "private session" and it won’t do that.
If I'm understanding it correctly (which is a stretch)
It seems like while it has the pandora features (random music similar to music you pick) you can also just search songs and keep them in your playlists to listen to whenever you want.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Ah.
Interesting. I generally just listen to music on shuffle on my iPod, so when I use Pandora (at work), I just have it randomly pick stuff for me. Plus it almost always gives me new stuff I like.
Yeah that's what I do too
and I use pandora to find new stuff that I like but with this you don’t then need to go buy it on itunes or whatever once you hear a song you like and want to hear regularly.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I've yet to figure out why people think it's awesome
When it tries to be iTunes, iTunes is better. When it tries to be Pandora, Pandora is better, although I tend to use Slacker. Between iTunes, Slacker and my XM Radio app on my phone, I’ve yet to figure out why Spotify is supposed to be awesome.
Can someone enlighten me?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Why do you think Pandora is better?
It seems like being able to get specific songs and add them to playlists for use whenever you want is a huge advantage over pandora.
I agree with your first statement though. People talk about it like it’s life changing and I don’t see that at all.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I've never tried Spotify, but...
I assume Pandora is better at figuring out what you like and making recommendations.
Though it continually tries to give me jazz, doesn’t realize I dislike most songs with death growls, and can’t differentiate between good comedy rap and bad comedy rap and keeps giving me the later.
Slacker >>>>>>>>>>>> Pandora on guessing my tastes.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
They're really for different things
Spotify seems like it’s more about finding specific songs and artists and listening to them and making playlists to listen to whenever you want. It has some pandora-like features, but that’s not the primary purpose of the technology.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Then they must have a horrible algorithm for matching artists/musical styles
I’ve tried their “Metallica” channel a few times, and my God, it was horrible. I’d get 1 Metallica song and then 4 songs by bands I’ve NEVER heard of, another Metallica song, and 4 more bands whose last concert audience probably had 4 people in it. I mean, it shouldn’t be that hard to have related bands show up in a playlist labeled “Metallica”. But apparently it is. I’ve given it a few chances, but wow, it’s bad at populating playlists. Just unlistenable stuff no one’s ever heard of.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Again
I don’t think the big appeal of Spotify is the pandora-like functions – it’s listening to specific songs and specific artists of your choice. You don’t have to rely on their matching algorithms.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
But if I choose and artist, I'm only listening to that artist on Spotify?
What’s the point in that?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Well
just as an example, I just did a quick search for The Band and was able to listen to what I can only assume is every song they’ve ever recorded including obscure live recordings. I was then able to add any of the songs that I liked to a playlist that I can listen to whenever I want. How would I do any of that on Pandora or iTunes without paying for the songs?
Again I’m not saying it’s life-changing, but it’s entirely different than either pandora or itunes.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Seems like a lot of work to populate a playlist
Maybe I just don’t want what they do. I want a radio service, like Slacker, or I want to play stuff I already own, like iTunes. I guess I’m just not their target audience.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Yeah that makes sense
I’m not going to sit down and make a bunch of playlists. I’ll probably listen to songs that I don’t know by artists I like and if I like the song I’ll add it and over time I’ll have playlists.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
So you hate when it plays bands that aren't Metallica
but you hate when it plays songs that are Metallica?
I obviously like teh Metallica songs
but how hard is it to populate the rest of the playlist with stuff people who listen to Metallica have actually heard? Slacker does, Pandora does. Yet Spotify can’t. Shouldn’t be that hard to figure out to add Black Sabbath, Pantera, Testament, Slayer, Megadeth, Anthrax, Exodus, Metal Church. But that’s too hard for Spotify.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Whats the harm in discovering new music?
that was one of my favorite parts of pandora, most of the stuff i had never heard of
Well, it all sucked. All of it.
I figured out of sheer mathematically probability ONE song wouldn’t suck, but nope. They all did.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Does Spotify have the same sort of thumbs up/down system that Pandora has?
It always took me a little while to build channels on Pandora that consistently played music that i liked, but that was part of the fun
It has a skip function, not sure about thumbs up/down
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I find Pandora doesn't refresh itself much.
If I pick an Artist or a Song to create a station, it seems to play the same 20ish songs all the time I hit that station.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Another reason I'm a big fan of Slacker
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I tried it for awhile but I couldn't tell much of a difference.
I do like Rhapsody but I know most people don’t want to pay the $5 a month. I think it’s the best of every world. Monster selection.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 7, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
I'm a Rhapsody subscriber for $5 a month and I love it....
Best of every world. I like picking an artist and just letting it roll through “Top Tracks” for hours. The iPhone app is banging too IMO.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
And with that subscription
you get unlimited downloads as well as what I assume is streaming top tracks?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yup... I get everything
1 CPU device and 1 Movile device.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Well.... sure
I pay $5 a month for the service and I love it. But when I want a CD in .mp3 format to put on my iPod, I just download it.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
ahhh
Can’t you convert them to mp3 format?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
That's what I was saying
You probably can but I haven’t taken the time to figure it out. I tried it for free and then just never cancelled when they started charging me. I didn’t intend on staying but $5 a month isn’t missed.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I did it once in college
when I converted the thousands of songs I stole on Kazaa (god that program destroyed my computer). It was a pain in the ass.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yeah
I use PIRATEBAY and just run it in uTorrent for everything. I know it’s not good and won’t try and defend it but yeah, I’m just a dirtbag in general.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
When I listened to Metallica on Pandora,
I get so much stuff I didn’t want to listen to like Godsmack and Korn. It was nice that it played Megadeth and Black Sabbath, too, but I just ended up deleting that station.
Slacker's Metallica station is MUCH better.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I can do playlists on my phone with iTunes
I’m not even that big a Pandora fan, I like Slacker better because its metal channels play a mix much more to my liking than Pandora. I find Spotify’s choices for playlists to be, well, confusing and ill-formed.
It seems like Spotify tries to do everything, and everything it does, something else does better.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Well right
but with Spotify you don’t have to buy the songs like you do with iTunes.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
You can make your own playlists on Spotify.
You don’t need channels.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 7, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
But I can do that on iTunes
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
That is the assumption he's making
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I do
music is cheap and I can afford to support the artists I’m interested in. Why wouldn’t I pay for that music?
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
by Andrew_G on Jan 7, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My plan is this
If, in my completely unfounded guesstimate, the members of the band make less than I do, I’ll pay for it. However, if they own more guitars than I own t-shirts, well, I make no guarantees…..
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
You stole all of our hearts.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure Lars Ulrich doesn't need another gold-plated toilet
So they won’t miss my $9.99 on iTunes.
That said, I’ve bought probably close to $400 worth of music in iTunes in the last 2 years.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
that's not the point
Macy’s won’t go out of business if I steal a coat from them but it doesn’t mean I should.
Hate to say she's right
I do it unremorsefully, but I still can’t make a case it’s ethical.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah.
The prices these record companies charge are also unethical.
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 7, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
That was not a connection I was making.
It was just a statement.
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 7, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
Are they though?
$10 doesn’t seem to bad for endless plays of an hour or so of music.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I thought you just said you pay for rhapsody?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yeah, but I'm not sure how to do the mp3 thing with it.
And I need music on my iPod shit for the gym.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
rhapsody is the shit
i recently moved over after they bought out napster. great layout and i think they have the greatest selection. but they’ve done such a shitty job marketing themselves. people are flocking to spotify because of that.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I understand the argument
but in most cases, what I DL is stuff I paid for on CD a decade or two decades ago. I’m not saying I’ve never DLed stuff I never actually owned, but it’s maybe 10% of my DLed stuff on my iTunes.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Its not enough to justify it on its own
but theft of physical property isn’t a good analogy for theft of intellectual property
I don't see how stealing digital music is different from stealing a CD
not in fancy lawyer terms, but in terms of not being someone who steals things that they should be paying for.
The difference is when you steal a coat from Macy's, they can no longer sell that coat to someone else
When you download a song, you aren’t denying anyone else the opportunity to purchase that song. I download way more music than i could ever afford to buy. If i was no longer able to do that, I would just not listen to music. My actions don’t negatively impact artists’ or record labels’ profits. Ethically, you can argue the same. Economically, though, they’re very different.
My actions don’t negatively impact artists’ or record labels’ profits.
Huh? That’s a sale that they’ve lost if you’re stealing music using some bit torrent program.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Not if he was never going to buy it
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
yeah, but now he has the product that otherwise he shouldn't have.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
so you never listen to music unless it's free?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Psssssssssht, I don't even watch movies that aren't free.
I think RedBox is a ripoff, lol.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
you can get free redbox
look up promo codes
by mdterps0325 on Jan 7, 2012 10:45 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
But then I have to pay for gas to get there...
It’s just such a hassle
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
you have to pay for electricity
to charge your laptop to download movies. I will split hairs,damnit
by mdterps0325 on Jan 7, 2012 10:49 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah, but I steal the wi-fi from the neighbor.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Unless its a price I can afford and/or feel like theres some additional value provided
I paid a few dollars when In Rainbows came out, and i’ve bought special editions of certain albums.
And actually, theres an argument that theres a positive economic benefit to me downloading music. When i do have income, i like to go to concerts and frequently buy merchandise at those concerts. Thats income that more directly supports artists that i may have otherwise never been exposed to or liked enough to see live.
I paid a few dollars when In Rainbows came out, and i’ve bought special editions of certain albums.
Gotcha. Frankly, I was going to call BS here because I thought you were trying to say you don’t find music valuable enough to you pay for it. This reeked of what criminologist David Matza has called techniques of neutralization (rationales criminals use to justify their shady ass behavior). But it appears you will pay for music when the value of that music is worth paying for it. I’m the same way but I’m probably not as picky as you. There’s plenty of music out there that I’ll take for free because I really don’t like it enough to pay but I wouldn’t mind placing it on my ipod. But I like a lot of music so I’m willing to pay for any music that I like. If you don’t like music and you’re only willing to take it for free then cool. I don’t have a problem with that.
And actually, theres an argument that theres a positive economic benefit to me downloading music.
There are plenty of good reasons that free music in certain doses is great for an artist.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I like music a lot
But i have really strong objections to the record industry model and the way copyright is structured in this country that prevents me from wanting to invest in it.
techniques of neutralization man.
i don’t like the music industry either. but the rules of game. you pay for stuff that you like.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
you can have all the strong objections you want
you’re still breaking the law.
kind of problematic for a lawyer.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I also want to highly recommend a documentary about this
Its only an hour long and is really well put together. Interviews with Danger Mouse and Girl Talk, among others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Copy_Bad_Copy
freely downloadable here: http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/
and watchable on google video here
Lawrence Lessig, Harvard Law professor, has also written a really great book about copyright reform, Free Culture. It was released under Creative Commons, so theres easily obtainable free .pdfs and ebooks .
Haha... I was actually kidding about "free download"
It just fit with the conversation.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Lots of things are illegal that shouldn't be
Copyright reform is something i’m really passionate about.
i just want to say that i’m all for copyright reform, and i’m passionate about it, and i still think you should pay for music.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I'm not judging anyone
but for me, it’s really pretty simple. I can afford music, and music-makers are asking me to pay a very low price for it. If I take it without paying, that’s ethical wrong, and I won’t do it.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Once I get a job, I will pay for music.
And while I have not really taken a side in this debate, I do actually buy most albums and then download single songs that I like, but unlike most people here I listen to mostly hip-hop, a genre in which free music is more common.
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 7, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
I draw the line at UPLOADING!
I don’t even SEED!!!
I’m just a lazy leech.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
lol, this!
I stop the DL right after it is done, never a moment later. haha
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 7, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
But you seed as your DL'ing
and even stopping when you’re done isn’t full-proof. Not that I got two notices from Verizon about the first ep of Game of Thrones or anything…
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I've downloaded
Probably 2TB of stuff and never got a warning. You gotta read the comments on the files you get, they usually will tell you if it’s being tracked.
Also, an IP blocker is easy.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yup, gotta make sure the feds aren't watching.
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 7, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
I run the upload rate to 1kb WHILE I'm downloading
Same here, I delete everything the second it finishes (the torrent that is).
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
I'm gonna rec this
only cause it is what I do. I figure less chance of getting bullied by riaa if I don’t have things seeding on my computer
by mdterps0325 on Jan 7, 2012 10:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
The RIAA isn't going after downloaders anymore
The MPAA, however, sure as hell is.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I tend to buy newer albums
I’ll discover a band, download their older stuff, and buy their newer stuff. I figure it’s a fair compromise.
So lobby for reform
don’t just steal people’s stuff.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
this
we should all be the true grit cowboy and set our own moral code. Sarcasm aside, I don’t necessarily subscribe to a law is a law is a law.
by mdterps0325 on Jan 7, 2012 9:57 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
There's DEFINITELY not no impact
there’s just negligible impact in any individual case, but when everybody does it there’s gigantic economic impact.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Also, Macy's actually takes lengthy safeguards to prevent it.
This is just an unsecured unguarded marketplace. I also assume risk I’m not downloading a virus etc.
Again, I don’t believe it’s ethical but I’m not paying $1 a song for anything. I also download tons of movies/TV shows etc.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
I'm conflicted
on one end, record companies essentially had a monopoly on a market, and when their absurd profits started dwindling, they flip out because they think they are entitled to the same profits. On the other hand, it’s stealing from musicians that bothers me.
by mdterps0325 on Jan 7, 2012 9:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Wanna support musicians? See them live.
They get a MUCH bigger cut from concerts than record deals.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Or buy their merchandise
From what I’ve come to understand, bands basically make no money off sales of their first three albums because the contracts with major record companies don’t pay them much in royalties. They only get money from concerts and secondary merchandise sales (t-shirts and posters).
And that won't change
Big bands are now just DIY’ing thier sales. Trent Reznor sells all his stuff through downloads, Coldplay does its thing, and other bands are warming up to it. Labels are still needed to get unknown artists in the public’s attention span, but once there, the acts really don’t need them anymore. Thus the draconian contracts will just get worse.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I don't think it'll be long before record labels won't be needed
The same with TV networks, publishing houses, and any group that does little but distribute media created by someone else. I used to be all for copyright and not downloading stuff for free… But I’ve recently changed my mind. The Internet is changing the way media is consumed.
The little guy has a much better chance of making a living off his work than before.
overhead man.
Artists are much better off going to cross promotions these days like getting their songs in a movie. Ringtones used to be popular.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
If everybody in the world did what you did
there would be dramatically less music because musicians (and record labels, radio stations, etc) wouldn’t have enough money to produce it.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I don't agree
Music existed long before it was profitable, and it would exist long after. Musicians would shift to extracting value from the live performance of music rather than an artificial intellectual property right.
Actually no, i should restate that
We’d have a lot less crappy music for sure. But people that really care about making music are still going to do so. They’d just be compensated in different ways.
This is definitely not true
We wouldn’t have less crappy music, we’d be left with more bands that are “commercially viable” so they can sell out stadiums and sell merch, and that would leave us with a whole lot more Nicklebacks and Justin Biebers.
People that care about music will still make it, but making a living at it would be much harder because they’re scrapping by as it is and already touring 300 days a year. Where are they going to make up that lost income?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Musicians would shift to extracting value from the live performance of music rather than an artificial intellectual property right.
They are doing that but their profits are still being drastically cut into.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Well, the labels' profit would be lessened
Not so sure about the bands’ profits.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
anything that cuts into label profits cuts into bands profits.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
and yet
for a long time record companies profits grew at a much higher rate than their musicians
by mdterps0325 on Jan 7, 2012 9:59 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
it is true.
there was No alternative to get music from the band you liked, so what is to stop them from raising the price?
by mdterps0325 on Jan 7, 2012 10:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i'm not disagreeing with you.
labels can and have gauged artists.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
music existed on an extremely local level
before it was profitable. Is that preferable?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Man I wish you guys wouldve saved this for a weekday OT
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 7, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
And I'm just the opposite
Weekends are the only time I have to get in OTs when school’s in session.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Well git em for me
I’m bout to brave the frat-tastic waters of Fed Hill with my gf and her single friends. Fight chance is high.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 7, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
If everyone did what I did...
Coors Light and Marlboro Light would be #1 and #2 on the Forbes 500.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
tangentially
I did a play in college that included me drinking on stage, and I bought some cheap-ass Coors regular for the task. At one point my character got frustrated and was supposed to throw an empty beer can across the stage, but I had made a mistake in taking a fresh can at the top of the scene, so I chucked a full can across the small theatre.
Throughout the rest of the play, the stale beer smell drifted throughout. It was unpleasant. My professor and advisor told me afterwards that he thought I had filled the cans with water but by intermission he had figured out that it was Coors. I told him “Oh yeah, and I wish it were water. Coors is the worst”, and he told me no, he had had worse.
He told me about how when he was home from freshman year he was cutting the grass and his neighbor came out and said “Hey, you like beer, right?” and offered him five cans of something called Black Diamond or something. He took it.
A few months later, he was back at school and a friend was visiting him. He said to his friend, “hey, you like beer, right?” and offered him four cans of that Black Diamond beer.
The moral is: never accept five cans of free beer.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
by Andrew_G on Jan 7, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
LMAO
That’s an awesome story. Shit, I’m feeling generous, I’m even gonna REC it up.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not so sure about that
Many, many bands find themselves in debt to their label until they’ve out out three or so successful records.
There would still be music. It’s insanely cheap to make adequate recordings now. The question is, how would we find it?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
But how would I know?
If it’s not on radio, if the band’s not coming to my town, how do they capture my attention?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Things like Pandora and internet radio
Word of mouth on the internet. If the only music you ever listen to is music you first heard on the radio, then you might be out of luck. But I assume most people have at least some music they listen to that they did not first discover through the radio.
Also
Music is widely free anyway. I listen to the radio free, Pandora free. Im just changing the format in which I get it free.
Coats aren’t freely available in some formats.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think it's insanely cheap
instruments are expensive, touring is expensive, not having a job so that you can practice/tour/etc and still afford your rent/food/gas/instruments is expensive.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
It has an economic value
I don’t see how it’s any different than stealing a coat.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Because a coat is a unique good
Theres an extra cost to make an additional copy. From an economic impact, that makes a significant difference.
I thought it was a good point.
In SOME cases, as he was saying, he wasn’t going to buy X no matter what. But if it’s “free”, he’ll give it a whirl. Economically, it didn’t matter.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
In SOME cases, as he was saying, he wasn’t going to buy X no matter what. But if it’s "free", he’ll give it a whirl. Economically, it didn’t matter.
I’m completely fine with this argument and I follow it myself. But that’s not what kba is practicing in real life from what I’m hearing.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Sure, and neither do I.
It was just an interesting wrinkle I didn’t think about. Again, I can’t make a case for doing it… but I do.
I don’t think it’s good on my body to drink 25+ beers a day, but I do anyway. I know smoking is horrible for me, and I do it anyway. I’m not paying for something I can get in two clicks that millions of people are doing.
It doesn’t make it right but 75% of people that wear coats didn’t steal them. Downloading music is as American as baseball.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
I would smoke a pack a day if the shit didn’t kill people.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Pretty big "IF"
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 7, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
the shit will kill you
there’s no if.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Well you could always die from something else first
then you’d really regret all those years of not smoking
oh yeah, I meant,
you won’t be smoking a pack a day anytime soon.
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 7, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
If you say so
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 7, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
It makes a difference, but it doesn't eliminate the value of it.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
This is pretty ridiculous logic though
I won’t miss $10 out of my 401(k) – does that give you the right to take it?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Sure - if you steal it from my 401(k) you can have it
because I won’t notice. Does that make it ok? There are lots of crimes you can get away with – does that make them ok?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I just silent farted in my wife's presence.
I think I got away with it.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I wanted it to rip, but sometimes it does nothing.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty OK with paying for music too
but I don’t want to buy music that I’m not sure I like. For example, I wanted to listen to some more obscure Lou Reed to decide if I liked it – I’m sure as hell not going to spend money to do that. If I listen to it and like it then I’ll probably buy it on iTunes.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
ProTip
Skip the new Lou Reed with Metallica. I haven’t heard a note of it, but anyone I know who has also has warned me away from it like it’s a rabid dog behind a door you don’t wanna get bit by.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
just skip
everything Metallica. everyone assumes Lou is ruining them, I say the opposite ha
by mdterps0325 on Jan 7, 2012 9:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
this is the wrongest thing I may have ever read
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Jan 8, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
I heard them talking about it on Howard Stern
and they played a bit. Holy hell that was some shitty “music”.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
oh, most definitely
but, for example, I heard an interview on NPR about The Roots new Album last month. I’ve never really listened to The Roots before that, but I was interested in the themes. Then I saw the album, Undun, was only 5 bucks on amazon. So I bought it without any real expectations. And I really love it. And I’ve made similar sight unseen purchases in the past on Arcade Fire and (believe it or not) Bob Dylan and Gnarls Barkley. It’s worked out probably 80% of the time for me.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
That album is on my to-buy list
and I do things like that too, but there’s some stuff that I want to hear before buying.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
When I heard
That Ludacris rented out the Atlanta Raceway to race his Ferrari with no speedlimits. And that Justin Bieber rented out the Staples Center so he and his date could have dinner at half court, I stopped having a conscience about downloading music.
#idontdownloadbiebersmusicthough
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Justin is now accepting donations to his "Bieber's Beavers" foundation.
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 7, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
it's lajon brames
That’s what I said!
by mdterps0325 on Jan 7, 2012 9:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Hahahahhahaha
That was hysterical. Dwight is in the dark on pop culture. That was one of the best lines this season.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
I heard the Staples Center comped Biebs on that because he added an extra tour date there.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 7, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
It's such a funny line of thinking
from a guy who doesn’t want to increase Warren Buffet’s tax rate by 3%.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
by O'sFan21 on Jan 7, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I want to increase Warren Buffet's taxes by 80%!
Just not the rest of the millionaires.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
I’m with ya… if it’s out there, I’m taking it.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
me too
amazon has great mp3 deals. i bought three coldplay albums for $6 as digital downloads.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I like Rhapsody a lot better
Much better layout. And I believe it’s the same price.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Grooveshark
Do it. Do it.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 7, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Any non-Risk boardgame afficionadoes around here?
Just played a round of Carcasonne with the new expansion I got for Christmas with my gf and it was our best competitive round yet.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
you mentioned carcasonne before
i’ve never played, but it sounded interesting. i’d try it if you’re tlaking about an online version…
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I know there's an iOS and Android app for it
but I can’t imagine playing it on a phone. iPad could definitely work, but I don’t have one of those. And I don’t know about any games-by-email type of deal with it.
I’d definitely recommend it to anyone on this board, since obviously everyone likes boardgames enough to play risk all the time. It’s pretty simple to pick up but full of strategy and options.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I love ALL board games!
Chess, Backgammon, Diplomacy, Risk, hell even Trivial Pursuit.
But not Monopoly. Fuck Monopoly.
I'd put it this way; if an offense is a sugar cookie, on base percentage is the pastry part of the cookie, power is the icing, and baserunning is like the jimmies that they sprinkle onto the icing. - Bill James
I hate waiting on 10pm EST starts to MMA cards
Makes the day just drag by…
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Ravens get the Texans.
I’m hoping for a Lions win so the Giants can play the 49ers.
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
Probably, but I don't mind doing some wishful thinking.
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 7, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, i'll join in...
I’m hoping for a Lions win so the Giants canplay the 49erswatch the Falcons play the Packers along with the Eagles, who will already have staked out their seats on the couch while watching the Giants in the playoffs.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
So, I'm watching the playoff game..
and it looks like someone is giving the Tuskegee Airmen the Ben Affleck-“Pearl Harbor” movie treatment, down to the CGI flight scenes.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
that someone
is George Lucas. at least it is lucasarts so I assume.
by mdterps0325 on Jan 7, 2012 9:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Has anyone's career gone downhill faster than Terrance Howard?
-Oscar nod for the Whoop That Trick movie whose name escapes me at the moment
-role in the Ironman blockbuster
-???
-leader of underdog black swim team in some overplayed dramatic movie
-leader of underdog air force pilots in some overplayed dramatic movie
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 7, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
underdog black air force pilots*
ruined my own punchline
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 7, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Well, TECHNICALLY, Army Air Corps...
USAF wasn’t made its own service branch until after WWII.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Sure.
Military people get pissed when you mess that shit up. I tend to call it all “Army” as a snap reflex, and my gf’s brother, who is a marine fighter pilot, will one day kill me five times before I hit the ground if I don’t keep slipping up.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 7, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
stop slipping up*
Jesus, I havent even started drinking yet. I should just stop now.
Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Jan 7, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
He'll carpet bomb your bachelor party, dude
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 7, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
The movie looks like they took the Tuskegee Airmen and decided...
“What if we make it a cliche sports movie.”
Time to start a real fight
I thought DRIVE was utterly a terrible flick. I give it a 3 out of 10.
Warrior is next so Im still holding out. Oh yeah, I hated Super 8 too. Just awful.
Midnight in Paris and Source Code were definitely the week’s winners.
Will work for Recs.
I agree with MiP and SC, but I liked Drive.
It wasn’t great. But if you just sit back and don’t try to think to hard about the story or the characters or any of it, then you can enjoy a great blend of the visual and auditory pieces of the film.
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 7, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't think Gosling was likable at all, and I really didn't even give a shit if he killed the "bad guys".
The script was very blah, and the over the top gore just seemed forced.
There was barely any character development and hardly any twists to speak of.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
The gore was a yawn, yes.
The other characters were poor, yes.
I thought Gosling was actually a pretty likeable character, until he beat that dude in the elevator. But as I said, I was paying much attention to all that stuff. It was not an all around good movie, but it had it’s really stellar moments.
When Andino finally emerged, he looked up at the Red Sox fans filing out. "I just wanted to see them go," he says
by WestcoastO'sFan on Jan 7, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Showtime free preview weekend means free & legal MMA for me!!!
Strikeforce just starting. Woo hoo! Go King Mo!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I'm downloading it anyway.
I will say this. If they charged for CamdenCast, I’d pony up for it.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
On an unrelated note, can anyone explain to me what the point of a savings account even is anymore?
I have to switch banks, and the interest rates on a standard savings account are so tiny that it doesn’t seem worth the hassle of dealing with a 2nd account.
I haven't had one in about 10 years
I use emmigrant direct
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
CDs are worthless too.
Index funds seem like a good hassle free way to go now.
I wouldn’t mind just throwing it on the S&P if you’re saving longterm.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
When I want zero risk
I just search for whatever online savings account is paying the highest rate at the moment.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Check out NLY
I’m not going to look at it now, but they were paying a 15% dividend for awhile. It’s a completely insane REIT that doesn’t get taxed or something which is how they can pony it up.
Over the past 5-10 years also, it didn’t even move that much and you can just reinvest the dividend. It was a pretty savvy play for me for awhile. I got bored though.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
It’s batshit crazy loot bro.
My best buddy is a big financial guru. Funny thing is he just got a job as the “International Financial Analyst” for Miller Brewing Company in Milwaukee. We shoot the shit about stocks all the time while we’re bored at work. It’s more gambling though than investing for us. We are in and out of stuff quicker than Charlie Sheen.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Until the last year
I’ve been a buy and hold forever investor, but this year I’ve tinkered with riding some hyper volatile indexes (FAS and FAZ) up and down which has worked out ok.
What the hell is the downside to this NYL stock? Why isn’t everybody in the world buying it?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
NLY
No clue… it’s just a little known secret I guess.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Check it out yourself
All of the fundamentals are obviously public.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
That reads snarky (wasn't meant to be).
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think the totally flat stock price probably keeps it off a lot of radars.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yeah, the play is obviously purely for the dividend
I mean, it’s not NO RISK. It was rolled between 12 and 20 for basically 15 years. But all the shares would be more than free at this point if you’d been in it for awhile.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
I mean in some ways
even if you lose 8% on the stock price you’re likely to come out ahead of the S&P these days.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yeah, but if you aren't planning on going anywhere.
This stock has always bounced back to a consistent $16 range.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that's what it seems like.
I’m going to buy on Monday. lol
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Obviously, you'll do your own due diligence.
I don’t want there to be any news or whatever I’m not aware of that screws you and I get blamed for it. I haven’t owned any in awhile.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
lol
how sad is it that there’s a big percentage of people in the world that really does get their stock advice from strangers on the internet without doing any additional research?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I do additional research
But I still take advice from people on the internet. I’ve taken advice off this board a hundred times and I chat a lot on Yahoo’s stock message board (a real cesspool by the way because it’s basically unmonitored).
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
I need to take the time and really try to learn what I'm doing before jumping in too much
I’ll probably pick up a decent amount of IBM stock since i can now get it at a discount, but beyond that i’m gonna want to be careful until i’m better educated.
anything risky
I do with money that I don’t “care” about.
I love discounted stock though – made out great with the discount on my old company’s stock.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yeah, i just have to find the right balance
I do have a lot of student debt and car loan to pay off, but they’re at a low enough interest rate that it makes sense to do a decent amount of investing also as long as i can clear the amount of interest i’d be accruing.
Yeah
I sure hope the market starts returning better than student loan interest rates…
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Well, for the last few years after that horrific collapse
Just indexing alone would have you MILES ahead of your loan rates.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
you mean I can't hold you personally responsible
for losing my entire 401(k)????
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
yeah switched that up there haha glad I didn't buy NYL
Legg Mason’s Bill MIller owns a shitload of it – he’s not a bad judge…
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Another one to check out
is PWE. Not 14%, but a if you’re looking for high yielding dividends it’s another good choice.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 7, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Wowzers.
I haven’t messed around in the market in over a year. After the Marines I had to burn through my portfolio to survive. Definitely something I’m going to look into when I get back into it though.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 7, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
The savings account would likely function only as a emergency reserve
Any money to be invested would go into my 401k up to the match, or my IBM stock discount. If after that i still had money leftover, I’d just make larger student loan payments.
I use online savings for emergency fund
much higher rates than any bank savings account, but still shitty. In 2006 I was getting 5% from emigrant direct, but now it’s at 0.6%.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'm also trying to pick out health insurance plans and shit
when the hell did i become an adult? I’m not fond of thinking about my life in more than semester-long chunks.
Nothing will depress you more
than shopping health insurance plans.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 7, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
One advantage to having a wife who works for the gov
is letting her deal with my health insurance.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
by O'sFan21 on Jan 7, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And there's my rec for the evening
her plan working for the state of MD is sooooooooo much better than what I have available as a teacher.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
That's why I'm getting married, for the most part
I don’t need a piece of paper to say i’m staying with someone forever, but when she works for a hospital I’ll definitely take the awesome insurance that comes with it.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
My savings account and checking account are linked
If I write a check, it just draws from my savings account. I put everything into my savings account.
a saving account
is still higher interest than sticking it under your mattress. that’s what they are for
by mdterps0325 on Jan 7, 2012 10:06 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Only marginally
at the amount i’d have in it, i’d get maybe a couple dollars a month. Thats not worth the hassle.
No, but savings accounts
have never been intended to make you money.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 7, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I made like $6 in interest last year.
Good thing I saved all that money on music though.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
it's like blood money
Which member of Metallica can DiCaprio be? Lars?
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
by dfa on Jan 8, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
I use it more as in a
‘’if it’s not in my checking account I won’t try to spend it’’ way.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Jan 7, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, me too
I have a savings account connected to my checking (obviously) but I purposely put my savings in an ING account so that I can’t just transfer it instantaneously. It takes a few days to transfer so I have to really think about if I want to spend that money. And ING keeps trying to give me checks and a debit card for it and I’m like no!
I have no self control when it comes to spending.
I also have most of my savings in an ING account!
It was, at one point, growing and growing. Then it stagnated for a couple of years (basically when I moved into my own place). Then last year I had to pull like $3000 out to make it through the year.
This year I plan to put some back into that thing. Probably not as much to cover what I took out last year, but enough to make me feel like it’s growing again.
Showtime free preview weekend means free & legal MMA for me!!!
Strikeforce just starting. Woo hoo! Go King Mo!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Brees is a fucking carpenter.
Love that guy. Admittedly, he’s the anti-Tebow.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:10 PM EST reply actions
a carpenter is the anti-Tebow?
oh, the irony
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
by Andrew_G on Jan 7, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
And you just got another.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
well played sir
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
by dfa on Jan 8, 2012 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
carpenter?
like john the carpenter or like the carpenters? neither of those is the anti teblow
by mdterps0325 on Jan 7, 2012 10:44 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Pierre Thomas has been an animal tonight.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:33 PM EST reply actions
He's a fantasy football killer though so I have a grudge.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Saints up 10 late (31-21)
Excerpt from Simmons’ article…
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7432606/all-football-mailbag
SAINTS (-10.5) over Lions
You’ve heard the case for Detroit: It’s going to be a shootout, the Lions are going to throw on New Orleans, they’re used to playing indoors, and even if they’re getting mildly blown out, that extra half-point is a biggiethat extra half-point is a biggie (they can always pull off a backdoor touchdown (a Calvin Johnson specialty over the years). My counter in three parts …
All the Lions have going for them is that extra half-point
Looks like “the hook” might screw the gambling world tonight. Gotta hate getting beat by the effing hook.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions
Wow
Quick… look how wide open that Brees TD was. I’ve never seen a WR with no one within 20 yards of him. Thats pathetic Detroit.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Oh man
This will be funny to watch. Are the Lions gonna backdoor cover?
Lions ball, 3 minutes left, down 17.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Just delete all of this, lol.
Nobody’s watching the NFL playoffs around these parts?
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
I am
what the hell happened to the Detroit secondary in this quarter?
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
They look soooooo bad
Brees has just been tossing 40 yard bombs at will. It’s like they have less men on the field or something. Dropping 42 in SECOND HALF is nuts.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Make that 35, they are taking a knee on the goal line with 2 minutes to go.
Classy.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of number of guys on the field
Did you see the Louisiana-Lafayette basketball game where they played the last few possessions with 6 men on the court and no one noticed?
That's so freaking hilarious.
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, HAHAHAAHA
Those refs are getting suspended right?
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by Wieters Wieners on Jan 7, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
watching for the love of the game
if you fast forward through the kelly preston scenes, it’s pretty good.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
ugh
the baseball scenes are so bad that it ruins it for me.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
john c. reilly, “we’re the best team in baseball right now because of you.”
watching the 9th!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
haha
meanwhile he’s lobbing shitty ass pitches up there.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Posada set to retire as a Yankee
Another bullet dodged. Not tha the was ever really coming here.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
also, quitting on your teammates because you're a primo don
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I know this is anathema here,
But I like Posada, though not as much as I admire Mariano. Maybe it was him not wearing not wearing batting gloves or him almost crying during an interview last year, but Posada never came off as a douche like Jetes and Arod do.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
by dfa on Jan 8, 2012 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
I was wondering how there were 283 new comments on a Saturday night.
Then I saw that long debate over downloading music. Anyway, Grooveshark.
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