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Ripken, Jr. encouraged by Orioles' offseason moves - Baltimore Sun
"Asked about the Orioles offseason accumulation of arms —the club has acquired seven new pitchers on the 40-man roster since the end of last year —Ripken said he thought new club executive vice president Dan Duquette has built "the nucleus of a pretty good club."

Voices boom inside Oriole Park - baltimoresun.com
"The Orioles are searching for the voice of a new generation, and Oriole Park vibrated Saturday with the sounds of the 25 semifinalists who are hoping to become the full-time public address announcer for the team's 20th anniversary season at Camden Yards."

Orioles fantasy camp, 'a feeling you can't describe' | The Daily Times
"When Bryan Adkins made the trip down to Sarasota, Fla., late last month, it was for more than just leisure. For the Salisbury resident, it was a chance to play the game he loved so much as he took part in the Baltimore Orioles' "Dream Week." The event took place from Jan. 29-Feb. 4 at the team's spring training and minor-league complex."

Is the cellar door locked? | The Yankee Analysts
"If I told you I was going to give you three players to build your offensive and positional lineup around, and that these three players would be a shorstop, center fielder, and catcher, all in their mid-20s, all with above average defensive ability, who combined to hit 77 home runs last season, you’d think that lineup would turn out pretty damn good. Unfortunately for Baltimore, just about nothing else has gone right." A few observations on our troubles by an outside observer.

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It's a Sunday at work.

Bring on the distracting comments!

by DaveAA on Feb 12, 2012 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

Michael "bike lanes religious freedoms" Vick

The end.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 12, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

you know what I hate?

the Yankees.

Jones is himself entering his late-20s.

Yes, by this time next yearJones will be only 3 years away from turning 30…his career is over!

by dan o'hare on Feb 12, 2012 9:53 AM EST reply actions  

It's depressing to me because 2011 and 2012 were when the O's were supposed to be good

And Jones was supposed to be leading that. But, not going to happen. IF the Orioles are going to be good, it’s going to be a few years away, and Jones WILL be about 30 then. That’s why I’d be okay with a trade.

by DaveAA on Feb 12, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

well

he’ll be 30 in 4 years. Fanpost coming by EOD today though. Which i’m sure will prove without a doubt the orioles will win 90 this year. And then I get a car…and everyone else gets pizza!

by dan o'hare on Feb 12, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

and also...

it was the pitching that was supposed to be leading that. Our 2 big guns though seemed to have fallen apart (Matusz and Tillman). Still both are really young. And matusz showed promise 2 years ago…Maybe last year was the type of year he needed to turn it all around?

by dan o'hare on Feb 12, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

It seems like the plan is to give all the young pitchers another year to figure it out.

I sincerely hope you’re right about 90 games, but I don’t see how it’s possible unless you’re counting on a huge number of outrageously optimistic predictions. While each optimistic prediction seems eminently possible by itself (Wieters having a big year, Hardy not regressing that much, Britton not sucking), the chances that all of them come to pass, that everyone stays healthy, AND that the Orioles get the lucky breaks that would be necessary (in the form of things like injuries to key Yankee and or redsox players) seems extremely unlikely. I mean like 1,000,000 to 1. But I guess that’s why I watch.

by DaveAA on Feb 12, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Vegas odds have the O's at 100 to 1

Tied for worst odds in MLB with the Stros

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 12, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah if it was 10,000 to 1

I’d say we all chip in and place a wager.

Best odds? Surprisingly, the Phillies. Is this because all the power left the NL this offseason, or because everyone in Philly is a degenerate gambler?

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 12, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I sent you an email invite to the keeper league.

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

When I was in Vegas in November

the odds were 90 to 1. It didn’t seem like nearly enough.

by Stacey on Feb 12, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

You dropped a Benjamin anyway, didn't you?

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Feb 12, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

not 1,000,000 to 1 surely

I think the odds are with us to win 85+, so i think the 90 projection is feasable, even if it’s a little whimsical.

by dan o'hare on Feb 12, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

You think we have a better than 50/50 chance of winning 85 games?

What are you smoking, man?

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Feb 12, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

camel lights

oh, they call them camel blues these days I think…and sometimes a pipe, with my cognac

by dan o'hare on Feb 12, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

aren't camel blues

camel krushes. those are some strong ass cigs.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

bless you

for your irrational exuberance.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 12, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll be honest

my post was way better before I read the rules about how you needed to back up claims with stats and stuff…that was way harder…

by dan o'hare on Feb 12, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

well if I didn't have to rely on facts

I could totally write the most awesome story about how the Orioles are gonna be the best team in baseball this season.

by Stacey on Feb 12, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

You could do it anyway.

You know, for fun. And by fun, I mean building up our expectations for the inevitable soul-sucking disappointment. You know, fun.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll be sad if the Yankees trade Burnett.

Ever since they’ve signed him, I’ve enjoyed watching the deal blow up in their face. He’s given them an average era close to 5 over his 3 years there, and hasn’t even won as many games as he’s lost. Dominant. Not that those are good stats, but he certainly hasn’t had success. If he goes to the Pirates, I’ll just have to feel bad for him.

by DaveAA on Feb 12, 2012 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

I dunno

I think moving him out of the AL East could help him renaissance a little. If the Pirates get a good deal for him, then it could be okay.

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 12, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I could see that.

I more meant that I’d be sad to see the Yankees making a smart move by getting rid of him. I want him to stay there and continue to put up very mediocre numbers for lots and lots of money.

by DaveAA on Feb 12, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

not anymore

:(

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Feb 12, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Forever 48

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Slowest day in months...

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

I hads my conference seeding meeting today

and since I’m running the tournament, I kinda had to be there.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 12, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Rounding out the CD Fantasy Baseball League

20 person league and we have 3 openings left.
Quasi-baserun derived.
9 position players, 5 pitchers, 6 DL, no bench

Last time I will mention it here as this does not further any Os discussion which severely contrasts my typical posts about dumplings.

by crawdaddy on Feb 12, 2012 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

You're the man!

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 13, 2012 6:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm interested

"Birdland is the belief that as great as today just was, tomorrow might be even better." -EME

by OriolesOptimist on Feb 13, 2012 12:04 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

hey folks, what do you think of these projections?

Player …………..BA OBP SLG G AB R H 2B 3B …. HR
Nick Markakis.. .282 .350 .416 156 620 80 175 37 2 14
Adam Jones .. .278 .322 .447 156 597 83 166 27 4 22
Matt Wieters… .268 .334 .429 148 527 67 141 26 1 19
J.J. Hardy …… .268 .316 .446 129 493 66 132 24 2 20
Mark Reynolds .218 .320 .461 151 532 85 116 22 1 35
Nolan Reimold .246 .325 .416 133 459 61 113 20 2 18
Chris Davis …. .250 .299 .440 146 536 61 134 29 2 23
Robert Andino .. .249 .301 .358 126 433 57 108 21 1 8

by dan o'hare on Feb 12, 2012 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

They depress me.

That would be zero players with an ops north of .800

by DaveAA on Feb 12, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

These are the projections that go with your 85+ win prediction?

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Feb 12, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

No.

Zips. I think they are way too low. Just wanted to see what others thought of them.

by dan o'hare on Feb 12, 2012 1:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

ha!

I was just going to say that they all seem pretty realistic.

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 12, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

reimold and wieters...

look low to me.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Feb 12, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Invite to the keeper league sitting in your email

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

eh?

i set up my team yesterday.

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Feb 12, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Which one are you?

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

chensations

"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak

by j.q. higgins on Feb 12, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Ack! You're right. I was looking at the list of unconfirmed and I thought

one of the emails was yours.

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i still need a good name

I can’t think of a god damn thing

by mdterps0325 on Feb 12, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I asked for suggestions a while ago and as always, CC was up to it.

Link

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

What would be your max?

I don’t want more than 10, def. not more than 20. I run a tight budget.

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Us poor, non-gambling fools. Gettin' in over our heads with the sharpies.

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, you should see me the few times I play poker.

“Ooh, I think I have a good hand, I’m going to raise with my cheapest chip.”

by ahoque24 on Feb 12, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That's one strategy.

If you raised big every single time you had a good hand, you wouldn’t last long.

by DaveAA on Feb 12, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I paid 10 last year to come in 2nd in ottoneu.

Maybe at least in this league I can try to earn my money back

by mdterps0325 on Feb 12, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree too low.

is just really going to decrease in obp? No way. and markie mark has got to hit better than .218.

by mdterps0325 on Feb 12, 2012 1:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Where do you think they are going to go higher in reality?

I think Wieters will outperform this. Reimold might, but I’m an unabashed Nolan fanboy. Andino could probably do a little better than that OBP/SLG. The rest look about right.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Feb 12, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Nicky passes that AVG, but lower SLG

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

really lower than. 416?

he only did worse than that last year, I’d expect him more around 2010, at. 430

by mdterps0325 on Feb 12, 2012 2:01 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I think his injury will sap some of his power for a while.

Not high on him this year at all.

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

thats true, didnt think about that

ugh, the year is looking more and more bleak. I still think Wieters pushes 6 WAR, Reimold pushes 3, and ONE of the pitchers pitches at an above average level.

by mdterps0325 on Feb 12, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

My bet for best SP this year: Wei-Yin Chen

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

He was coming off a leg injury.

Runner up: Arrieta or Hammel

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Woah.

Projecting 6 WAR is not a good idea. Look for baby steps. Ask for Wieters for 5 WAR and no injuries in 2012. Just my thoughts…

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

If you add in DRS for him last year,

rather than just CS runs, he made 5.2 fWAR.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Feb 12, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, I didn't think about that. Good call.

I’m still hesitant to expect anything more than 5 WAR though, especially when you consider the year-to-year variation in defensive stats.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree completely

But Wieters was probably the best fielding catcher in the league last year. With some good luck his hitting could catch up and he would be an MVP canidate. I am riding the optimism today. Alas, it will all be gone by June. Also— what is DRS?

by mdterps0325 on Feb 12, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Defensive Runs Saved.

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, catcher defense is an area where a lot of research is needed.

Lately there was a really amazing article on quantifying pitch framing i.e. getting the borderline strike calls.

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's the link to part 1/3

Link
It’s really interesting.

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, check out these:

Mike Fast at Baseball Prospectus on framing pitches
Bojan Koprivica at The Hardball Times on blocking pitches in the dirt
Matt Klaassen at Beyond the Boxscore put together an aggregate catcher defense leaderboard
Dave Cameron at Fangraphs applies it to Jesus Montero

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Nolan will pass that, hopefully

keep in mind he awful year drags down his projection more than it does in real life.

by mdterps0325 on Feb 12, 2012 1:58 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Drove home late last night

on Route One and University Boulevard from College Park to Rockville. There was no contest whose icy roads were in better shape. Montgomery County 1 PG County 0

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Feb 12, 2012 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

Fangraphs has them at 7th in the majors for wOBA in 2011.

But yeah, they had some very good years from Gordon, Francoeur and Cabrera. Butler and Hosmer looked pretty good too. There’s definitely a non-zero chance that things break right for them in 2012 and they reel in a playoff spot.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

The Indians actually aren't too bad.

They look like a decent team to buy low on. They have a nice rotation with Masterson and Jimenez at the top, followed by Lowe, Tomlin and (maybe) Carmona-Heredia. They have a good infield with Cabrera at short, Kipnis at second, Hannahan and Chisenhall at third, Santana splitting time between catcher and first. Brantley’s an average left-fielder, Sizemore and Choo could bounch back. Their bullpen looks kinda weak, but they may be able to hide that a bit. I’m just surprised that they didn’t have a more active offseason.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

they are broke, i believe

which is why they didnt do more. They are good, yes, but I dont really think they have the hitting to compete with the AL East or West in any way. Id say Detroit ends up winning the division, with either Royals or Indians disappointing, and the other in second. The Twins and White Sox won’t be as in last as other divisions, but they won’t be in contention. The White Sox intrigue me because Adam Dunn’s last year could very well be an outlier. but then again they traded quentin which takes a lot of hitting out of the lineup. Id say Detroit, KC, WS, Indians, and then Twins. With the WS and Indians being interchangable

by mdterps0325 on Feb 12, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Re: WS

they also had a top 4 (maybe 3?) WAR pitching staff last year. If their bats come around a bit they could be quite a suprise

by mdterps0325 on Feb 12, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

actually well thought out article by a (gasp!) yankees fan

It didn’t just say, oh the Orioles are the worst! A well thought out piece. One statement I thought very interesting was the bit about this team being just so unbalanced. We really need to try to get some pitching prospects for AJ or someone on the offensive side. i know everyone has been saying that but something just clicked when he talked about a 6th ranked wOBA (in the AL) and the worst FIP in the league. I am really hoping that Detroit struggles this year, and makes a stupid trade for AJ at the break, which would include Turner and Castelannos.

by mdterps0325 on Feb 12, 2012 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

Why would you want for the MFY to get the TIgers' top two prospects?!

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Why would Detroit want Jones?

They have Austin Jackson. And Turner is probably ready to help the Tigers now, so I couldn’t see them dealing him this season.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

in this rosterbation

Austin Jackson has fallen hard. He struggled last year, and his struggles continued. But AJ could be their LF after they take Delmon Young out the back and shoot him. I could see it happening only because they already have a good starting core, and they are in we fucking better win now mode. Hell, if they are looking really good they could do this trade too to solidify themselves for the playoff run. They could even have reynolds for free, since he is a FA next yr, and could be a better 3B than Cabrera and put his ass at DH for the rest of the yr.

by mdterps0325 on Feb 12, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay. It's a big, big stretch, but I could see it.

Just two things though:
1) Jackson’s 2011 was way worse than his 2010, but that was mostly due to regression in his BABIP. His walk rate, power and fielding all improved slightly, while his strikeout rate took a small step back. And he still basically had the same fWAR as Jones (2.8 for Jackson, 2.9 for Jones).
2) Reynolds is under team control through the 2013 season. His current contract runs through 2012, then there is a $12M team option for 2013. If the O’s decline his option, they pay him a $500K buyout, and then they go to arbitration with him unless they can agree on a new contract for 2013 before a hearing.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I read it. It was a MFY blog, which is why I thought you were referenceing Burnett.

Re-reading your comment, I should’ve got it.

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a good article.

But I have to say that my favorite part was this typo:

His replacement? Robert Andino and his career .635 SLG.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

woah!

Seriously need to change my projections!

by dan o'hare on Feb 12, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Just looked at Brooks Robinson's fangraphs page

And he had a year with a 32 in the Fielding section? Holy Shit!!!

by mdterps0325 on Feb 12, 2012 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, he also tops the Baseball-Reference

career defensive WAR leaderboards by about 3.5 wins. It’s awesome to see Orioles players near the top of the defensive leaderboards. Cal, Paul Blair and Mark Belanger are all pretty high up there.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Past Orioles excellence at defense and seeing the success of teams like the Rays,

make me sad that the current Orioles don’t put a lot of emphasis on defense. At least, MacPhail didn’t.

by ahoque24 on Feb 12, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it looks like it could be an undervalued commodity.

Problem is, nobody quite understands defense the way we understand offense. Just ask the 2010 Mariners about that.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

#6org

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if the Curse of #6org can continue.

They might be extra safe this year to be sure that it doesn’t.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I've quietly hoping that DD would fix the defense.

Sort of a modern day thing to do. No luck so far. He is trying to fix OBP so there’s that.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Baby steps man, baby steps.

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we all agree on that as the slogan for this season?

Gary Thorne: Welcome, baseball fans, to the Two Thousand and Twelve Baltimore Orioles season – baby steps, man. Baby steps.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, but he's a part time player.

And right now Reynolds is scheduled to be the 3B starter.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Why is Cal honoring Mark Teixeira at his Gala?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

Hah

My buddy works for WNST and he met Tex at that gala. He said Tex was down to earth, and he follows the O’s really closely. He said Tex was confused by DD’s offseason acquisitions (and we’ll leave it at that). He and Nestor also attempted to interview DD and were shot down (and we’ll also just leave it at that). Let’s just say he got to see firsthand why DD is known to have a bad relationship from the media. I’m hesitant to elaborate cuz I don’t want to get my buddy in trouble or something

/dciswe’d

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 12, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL, nice story.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure that an O's official blowing off WNST for an interview is necessarily indicative of their attitude towards all media.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Feb 12, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's just say DD could have been a lot nicer about it

And if there were children around they’d have to earmuff it

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 12, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

it's not like Nestor & Co. deserve kid gloves or anything

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 12, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Help, Jeremy Lin has taken my facebook feed hostage.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 3:43 PM EST reply actions  

Who?

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, OK.

Never heard of him before. I don’t follow the NBA

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Never heard of him before. I don’t follow the NBA

You also must not have very many asian friends on facebook.

by kba26 on Feb 12, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have a Facebook.

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 2:54 AM EST up reply actions  

First thing that popped on facebook was a post from SBN nation about Jeremy Lin’s couch. Couch! Enough people!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 13, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Did anyone catch this

Fangraphs’ Community article on Britton?

It doesn’t actually tell us a lot, but the author’s findings are statistically significant. (He says that they aren’t in the article, then a commenter corrects him.) This kind of thing makes me wonder – do teams do this kind of analysis? And if they do, what should they do with it? Asking Britton to change his mindset could mess up his approach against hitters, but the extra strikeouts could be worth it if he can adapt to the new style. It seems like pitching coaches should approach this kind of topic with young pitchers in Spring Training, or in minor league games, just to see if the pitcher can make the adjustment without throwing everything else out of order.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

I'm sure plenty of teams do this type analysis

It’s pretty straightforward and unsophisticated statistically. In regards to this article, the implication that Britton needs to strike out more people and do it more efficiently isn’t that surprising and I don’t think any quantitative analysis was needed to arrive at that conclusion.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm.

I guess I think it’s surprising to see that he wants to stick to his style of pitching (i.e. 80% sinkers) even though we can see that he could probably improve with some slight tweaks to his approach (e.g. throwing his slider more on 0-2 counts to lefties, trying different grips on his sinker so that he can throw it with less movement on 3-ball counts, etc.)

But he did say, “That’s something I can improve upon as I get older and more experienced, though. I can learn to make better adjustments.” So maybe he is doing those little things. And it’s possible that he has tried some of those things and they didn’t work out for him.

It’s a good Q&A though, worth reading. I forgot that I had read it, pretty surprised to see my homer comment at the bottom.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Zach did an interview on XM recently

He said Matusz was out of shape last year. Other than that, it was a boring interview. He did say that Matusz is now in the best shape of his life.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

BSOHL!

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah,

everybody is in the BSOHL. But I wanna know, did he have previously undiagnosed food allergies? Because we now know that that means…probably nothing.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey! Food allergies are no joke!

Do you know how hard it is not to eat pistachios or hazelnuts? well, it’s not very hard at all!

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 2:55 AM EST up reply actions  

So...

I’ve got a bottle of the new Dogfish Head Noble Rot that I’m pretty excited to drink. It’s just sitting in the fridge.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Feb 12, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

shit son

what are you waiting for?

by PhilR8 on Feb 12, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

A week before anyone else

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 12, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

They and Oakland got special permission to start early

because they’re opening the season with that series in Japan and the last week of their spring training is gonna be all messed up with travel arrangements

by kba26 on Feb 12, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Baseball needs to start already

Football is over, I don’t care about the NBA, and the Terps are in a rebuilding year. This is the worst part of the sports year!

Baseball nerd

by Michael18 on Feb 12, 2012 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

This

So begins the longest week of the year….

"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come on, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool

by Fahrenheit 451 on Feb 12, 2012 6:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So I bailed on Battlestar Galactica

about halfway through season 2. No reason in particular, just kinda forgot about it. I’ve recently jumped back in and finished the season. Wow. Didn’t expect the ending. Now I know most people say that the show really falls off after the 2nd season, but after one episode of season 3 I am digging the new direction.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Feb 12, 2012 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

I can't fucking believe the mass execution

that just happened in episode one. I’m on the edge of my seat.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Feb 12, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Or not?

Mother fucking plot twists.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Feb 12, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

people yelled at me for spoiling the wire

so no, maybe not. I might want to watch Battlestar, you never know!

by mdterps0325 on Feb 12, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Special exception to spoiler rules for The Wire.

Masterpiece that it is, it does not deserve to be spoiled for any person.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Feb 12, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Frankly

I wouldn’t want to risk children of future generations digging up old OTs for sociological study spoiling eventual viewings of The Wire.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 12, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the ending was terrible.

I love the show, but everything after they leave New Caprica is relatively weak

by kba26 on Feb 12, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

this.

still a great show overall.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Stop watching after they leave New Caprica.

You’ll know it when it happens because your jaw will be on the floor still.

This is my suggestion, anyway. Without giving away too much, that’s the best part of the show and it falls off a lot after that.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Feb 12, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you and your gf finish watching X-Files?

I started re-watching the series with my boyfriend and we’re about halfway through season two. We skipped a bunch of duds in season one, though. I’m looking forward to many awesome episodes in the next few seasons, but I don’t know how far we should watch given how badly the show fell off in the last few years.

by Stacey on Feb 12, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

No we haven't.

On episode 21 of season 7. It’s been a few months. We watched too much too quickly and it got stale. We should probably get back to that next.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Feb 12, 2012 9:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It did kinda drop off after New Caprica

but damn, those eps were all kinds of awesome

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 12, 2012 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

This just in - White Zin on a Sunday Night is a great way to head into the work week.

Just sayin’

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 12, 2012 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

uh, white zin?

Come on man!

If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever

by dfa on Feb 12, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

It's what's in the fridge

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 12, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

White zin huh?

Next thing you know you’ll be test driving a Prius

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 12, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Um, no.

I’m seriously lobbying the wife to finally let me get a truck again.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 12, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Just don't end up like 'ole Possum

and take the riding mower out for a spin

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 12, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

What Vince Gill video had a cameo of him doing that?

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 12, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

If it's Vince Gill

I’d have no idea

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 12, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the Vince Gill song I like!

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 12, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

And here it is, with the cameo starting the clip....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=aGfgIQfpbWI#t=181s

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 12, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

he is actually known for White Zin

It’s kind of his moniker™

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 12, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm thinking about making a fanpost to list some baseball questions we can answer with some statistical analysis.

Is anyone else interested in making this list and/or trying to answer some of the questions?

I’m thinking of things like the Guthrie issue:
What is the probability that a starting pitcher who throws about 200 innings for five straight years will outperform his FIP (and xFIP) each season? What about outperforming the league-average BABIP (or his expected BABIP) each season? What about outperforming FIP/xFIP over about 1000 innings? Do these results suggest a skill in outperforming FIP/xFIP and BABIP?

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

I'm happy to do some analysis

except what dataset can I use besides something off of fangraphs?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Baseball-Reference. I dunno what else.

Those are enough for a lot of things. And someone else might have be paying for B-R’s premium stuff, so we could ask them for the data. We’ll see.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I could tackle the questions above if you give me the right dataset.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll make a fanpost tonight, just to get the ball rolling.

We can figure out what we need, then ask Stacey for the data.

by SeanP on Feb 12, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going crazy trying to put up this fanpost

i think I finally have everything in and formatted except 2 graphs. Is there a trick to posting them? I guess they would be pictures. computers are hard.

by dan o'hare on Feb 12, 2012 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

Just watched 50/50

I’m not gonna lie I was pretty choked up for the last third of it.

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 12, 2012 7:57 PM EST reply actions  

I saw Chronicle today

it was a lot more depressing than I thought it would be. Still, liked it lots.

by PhilR8 on Feb 12, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Chronicle is awesome.

Favorite movie of 2012 so far.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Wallace is in that movie.

That’s all I know about it.

"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP

by Eat More Esskay on Feb 12, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor Wallace :-(

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 12, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but was there any chance that would end some other way?

"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010

by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 12, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I have to re-watch the Wire

I guess it’s been three years since I’ve seen the entire series. It seems like I’ve forgotten a lot about it.

by PhilR8 on Feb 12, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I just rewatched seasons 1-3 back in Dec.

But now I get the opportunity to introduce the new girlfriend to it. So that is exciting, getting to see someone experience it for the first time.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 12, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I need to get around to finishing Season 3

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 12, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Time to nut up!

Seriously though, get through it. Get to Season 4. You are going to be mesmerized by S4.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 12, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

And I need to get through Season 5.

Dropped it halfway through.

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 3:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Just finished watching eppy 34

I thought Avon was going to cap Stringer. Maybe it’ll still happen.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure if there are spoilers in the comments

but this scene from the episode before is one of my favorite TV moments ever.

by ahoque24 on Feb 12, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup, loved that scene.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

major spoilers in the related videos

DONT LOOK BIRDMAN!

"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010

by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 12, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw that eppy last night.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuckkkk

Didn’t even consider that.

by ahoque24 on Feb 13, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

didn't look at the related videos

no worries.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 13, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I cried.

Tommy hunter still sucks!

by Steve. on Feb 12, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

oh shit

I had no idea that was him.

by PhilR8 on Feb 12, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

okay, my fanpost is up, sort of

the format got kinda messed up, but really, i doubt that is what you all will find to be the largest flaw…

http://www.camdenchat.com/2012/2/12/2794166/the-end-of-suffering

by dan o'hare on Feb 12, 2012 8:50 PM EST reply actions  

thanks for all the work!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 12, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright, Walking Dead

let’s get back on point here.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 12, 2012 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

I hope it's good.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Feb 12, 2012 9:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This ep. directed by Clark Johnson

so, that’s a good sign

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 12, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm watching it now.

"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010

by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Still love the opening theme

Not as great as Southland’s, but it does a great job of setting the tone.

"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010

by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

SNOW!

"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010

by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 3:54 AM EST reply actions  

Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus released his top 101 prospect list this morning.

The O’s top 3 prospects have their strongest showing on this list
6. Dylan Bundy
8. Manny Machado
85. Jonathan Schoop

Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck

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