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Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus released his top 101 prospect list this morning.
The O’s top 3 prospects have their strongest showing on this list
6. Dylan Bundy
8. Manny Machado
85. Jonathan Schoop
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
This list seems to be more in line with my thoughts.
by crawdaddy on Feb 13, 2012 7:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
6. Dylan Bundy
8. Manny Machado
So, so sexy.
by McCutchenIsTheTruth on Feb 13, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
From what I've gathered, his defense is what sets him apart.
Also the fact that he’s closer to being ready and much likelier to stick at SS.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 7:19 AM EST up reply actions
Right…great talent, but I doubt he is a SS.
by crawdaddy on Feb 13, 2012 7:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Profar or Machado?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
Machado will shift. Profar will stuck.
by crawdaddy on Feb 13, 2012 7:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
if machado shift to 3B, who is going to play ss in the future for the O's!
why the Orioles did not sign jurickson profar at that time, when they signed schoop? or we are going to draft one? at the other hand, we have a prospect named alexander mercedes, but i don’t know how good he is!
I don’t think the Orioles’ SS of the future is in the organization.
Also…it hurts to see Sano’s name. Keep thinking Garret Atkins.
by crawdaddy on Feb 13, 2012 8:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who else do the O's have at SS?
Anyone interesting? Schoop maybe? If the consensus is that Machado moves off SS, why not slot Schoop in there?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions
I think Schoop is less likely than Machado to stick at SS.
Really best plan at moment is to try to let Machado surprise.
by crawdaddy on Feb 13, 2012 8:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good lord the Padres have 10 players on that list
AL East –
Yankees – 4 players (29, 40,63,99)
Tampa Bay – 2 Players (1, 65)
Toronto – 5 players (16, 28, 54, 68, 93)
Padres – 10 Players
Athletics – 7 Players
Pirates – 6 Players
Blue Jays, Rangers, Rockies, Cardinals, Roylas – 5 Players
I'm coming around on Cespedes
6 years at 40? Seems worth it. And I sure would like another young OF bat.
If we sign a big IFA, it should be Soler.
He’s younger, as talented according to some, and would cost half that. Cespedes is already 26; that’s his prime years. Reports say he can’t hit a curveball and nearly everyone thinks he’ll need at least some time in AAA. My bet is he won’t be truly ready and at least average this year. That makes it 5/40 for someone who compares to Adam Jones. Worth it? Probably. Risky? Hell yes. Are there better options out there? Definitely.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 7:23 AM EST up reply actions
this
I would really like to see the O’s get Soler. OF is one of the weak spots in the minors and hopefully DD can address that.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
I thought they offered 6 years at under 40
seems worth it to me. And I think we should sign Soler as well. That said, I hope they both can hit a curve.
Well, he already stated interest in Miami
I’m sure he’s much less interested in Baltimore. An identical deal won’t get him to the O’s.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
oh right. I guess it would have to be either 5 years or more money.
the old, 40 million and one cent! probably won’t work here…
Purely based on gut speculation and not experience whatsoever
but if Miami is offering 40 and he is expressing interest along with the large cuban population of that area.
To get him to come to the O’s with almost no cuban population, I would be shocked if he came for less than the 60 that folks have been floating around.
well, that would make everything very different
then I would be nowhere near as excited about trying to land him…
Alternates are needed for the CC fantasy baseball keeper league.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
11 pitchers for 5 spots seems like a good reason for a contest
Pick the starting rotation (coming out of spring training).
I’d chose Wada, Hammel, Chen, Britton and Arrieta.
We Americans are a peculiar people. We are for the underdog, no matter how much of a dog he is. - Happy Chandler
I say Hunter over Wada.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 7:47 AM EST up reply actions
Actually Mr. Duqette I think we sould try to that thing that doesn't give us the strongest chance
My goal was to get some more pitching depth so we would be stronger and then try to do the right thing in spring training, the thing that gives us the strongest chance to win," Duquette said.
I think those last four are more or less written in
I’d be seriously surprised if Chen, Hammel, Britton, and Arrieta weren’t in the starting rotation on OD.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
If Jake is healthy, of course
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 8:10 AM EST up reply actions
who still has ML options?
anyone know a good place to find that info out?
Camden Depot of course. Tom Peace keeps track of Os options. New one should be up soon. Last one was from 2 weeks ago.
by crawdaddy on Feb 13, 2012 8:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It is something crazysilver did on OH, but it was such a bother trying to find it on a message board. I tried to do it last year and it bored me to death. Now, I am trying to get Peace to do it.
There should be an easier way to keep track of these things. Some needs to figure out a database for it and sell it to MLB Trade Rumors.
by crawdaddy on Feb 13, 2012 10:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I've been going to Camden Depot for player options forever now
It always surprises me that it’s not something that’s more readily available.
Hammel, Chen, Britton, Arrieta and Eveland
with Zach getting the OD nod.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
Really? Eveland. I have to admit I forgot he exists
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Get this! He throws with his left hand!
He’s crafty. A master of the game’s subtleties!
I think the Orioles rotation is going to be so bad we will pine for the grandiose days of 2008.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
That reminds me!
I was thinking about the five-headed SS monster of 2008 for some reason. Poll time!
Which of the 2008 SS made you the most depressed?
My answer: Freddy Bynum. I mean, how bad was he, right?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
brandon fahey!
I remember when they tried him as a corner outfielder!
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
The 2011 rotation was only 0.12 points of ERA better than '08.
And starters actually threw one more inning in ’08 than ’11.
Man, this team sucks.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
yup,
and 2012 is going to be really bad I’m afraid. But hey, on the bright side, getting the #1 pick might not be the worst thing this organization can do. It looks like the plan is going to work for the Nationals…
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
DOS based input programs...really?
Hey BSDI let me introduce you to 2012. 2012, how about you show BSDI what a graphic user interface is.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
Fiddlesticks.
Computer battery no longer feels like charging.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Mine gave out on me about two weeks ago.
I think I’m buying a desktop this time.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
This one is my crummy work computer.
It’ll take them about a month to get me new stuff if I contact tech support. I dunno how they expect people to be without their computers for so long.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
Can't you work from home?
/ignorance
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
Nope.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
I'd love to be able to work from home sometimes
Theres nothing about my job that requires me to be in the office 5 days a week, but i was hired into a brand new group and my boss wants everyone in the same place for the time being. I’m hoping in 6 months or so I can pull off at least 1 day a week at home.
Good luck with that.
I’ve been stuck here for two years. Don’t mind being in the office, but I’d love a day a week to work from home. Save myself a lot of time!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
For me, its that I'm going back and forth to Philly practically every weekend
and I’d love to be able to leave here on Thursday afternoon and not have to be back until Monday morning. Getting to spend 3 days a week in Philly instead of only 2 would be really nice.
Yeah, this.
It’s sort of a shame that telecommuting being trendy circa early 2000s has sorta died down. I’m in a similar situation, and I’d love to just switch it to ‘come into the office as needed’ even, for big meetings etc, instead of just one day a week from home.
But there are time accountability issues (ie: you need to set performance metrics based on what someone accomplishes instead of which hours they were in the office, etc) and, honestly, personnel issues when you have some people who can pull off that sort of thing vs those who can’t and think you’re doing no work while staying at home :P
Maybe one day…
I think that it will become more common place
when the at home computers utilize cameras to have facial recognition. That way the computer could log the time actually spent in front of the computer / in conjunction with the performance metrics set. Ideally computer face time shouldn’t matter as long as workload is completed but companies are a long way off from recognizing quality over quantity of hours worked.
Don Draper sez
“You came here because we do this better than you, and part of that is letting our Ceatives be unproductive until they are.”
by PhilR8 on Feb 13, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The U.S. Patent Office is actually way ahead on this
After you work there for a couple years as an examiner, you can be moved to a program where you work from home at least 4 days a week and only come into the actual patent office when you have meetings. They have a number of offices set up that aren’t assigned to any particular examiner, but can be reserved for when you do need to actually be on site. The just released a study finding that people in the program actually work 66 hours more per year and complete 3.5 more application reviews than people who physically report to the patent office, and they save something like 16 million dollars a year in the process.
Sounds reasonable
It’s easy to put in extra hours and not feel it under that sort of arrangement because you aren’t commuting and you don’t have that ‘get out of the office finally’ stigma at the end of the day – you can drop an extra hour on a project if need be and it’s no big thing because you just close up shop and you’re already at home when you’re finished.
Of course, flipside, there’s always those people who would abuse a program like this. They’ve gotta be willing to cut people who don’t produce.
My cousin's husband does this.
He lives in Fredericksburg and usually only goes into DC one day a week for like an hour.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Yeah.
I’ve gotten to work from home one day per week for about six months now. I have a very light workload – like, the average day consists of me doing maybe an hour of actual work and figuring out how to kill the rest of the day – so I’m pretty sure our group could function just fine with half the people. (Your tax dollars at work!) Yet management gets all worried about accountability on telework, and we have to send end-of-day reports saying what we did every telework day. It’s absurd.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
I've worked exclusively from home for 4 of the past 5 years
with last year being the miserable exception. Now I’m back to working at home and really can’t imagine going back into an office.
Yeah...
I’ve worked mostly at home since ‘05. There’s a lot I don’t like about my job, but it would be a tough transition to go back in an office every day.
As someone with social issues
I wish I could work in an office. It would put me around people I’d have reason to interact with.
That is the definite downside. There’s only a few people that I’m really friends with and on my rare visits into the office I either don’t know a lot of people or have trouble remember who’s who.
But waking up at 8:29 and not being late for work…awesome.
Technically I’m 8:30-5:30 but as long as my work gets done I can get away with fudging that. The other bad thing about working from home, in my opinion, is that it makes it easier to work really long hours.
I have the same thing.
I’m 830-5pm (I usually eat at my desk), but as long as I’m done with my work, I can get away with most any time (as long as I work 8-9 hours). Some people come in at almost 10am. I just prefer to get there early so I can get home and run before Caps and O’s games come on.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
This.
It’s helped me out to some extent. I assume people are gonna think you’re rude and such if you don’t talk, so I talk to all of them.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Just running on AC power.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
How often do you really need to carry it around?
I have a laptop at work, but it leaves its dock maybe once a week
About 4-5 times per week
I have a recurring status meeting I run every week and that’s when I really need it to actually work.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
btw, there's an invite to the fanatsy league in your email.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
OK. We're just having trouble filling the league.
MudDawg backed out and our alternate is a no-show.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
I'm definitely sad at the fact I have no opportunity to re-name my team
Slightly Better Than Dave
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Why not?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
I do not believe daveh is in on this one.
It just wouldn’t be the same.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
You have DaveAA.
He could be a placebo.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
is there money involved?
I may be interested but I’m deciding if I want to invest the time. I used to participate in a bunch of OOTP leagues back in the day, but I remember that I spent a ton of time on ’em.
This is just fantasy baseball. A keeper league to be sure, but it
has to take less effort than OOTP.
About the money, it’s still undecided. But even if there is, it won’t be much. 10, maybe 20 dollars buy-in.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
You sure you'll be active? I don't want to make you a reluctant
participant. Everyone loses in that scenario.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
I will be active
Are you making me beg? I guess if I beg, that’ll show you that I’m serious about participating.
Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease let me join :( :( :(
Not in the least! And I'm sorry if it came across as such.
You just sounded unenthusiastic and I didn’t want to pressure you or anything.
Again, really, really sorry if it came across the wrong way. BTW the invite should be in your email.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
I could fill in if needed
let me read through the fanpost when i get home from class tonight, though first
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 13, 2012 9:57 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Phil already filled the spot, but should I put you down as an alternate?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
sure, that'd be fine
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 13, 2012 11:19 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Having trouble filling the league???
We’ll be just fine with 12-14 teams. We don’t need to push for 16. It’s already too much
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Not really.
We have 16 with PhilR8. It’s just HolyOs wanted in but hasn’t been around and MudDawg dropped out.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, really
16 is too many teams, especially with you having 4 OF’s and a MI. I look forward to the challenge but if people don’t want to play, let them drop out.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, you're probably right.
I was going to put up a poll on the league page about the MI. It was a late addition and I wanted to know if people wanted to keep it or not.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
i don't understand why we're doing just a MI but no CI position
i feel like if you’re gonna have one you should also have the other, but that’s just my two cents
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Usually the Utility spot is manned by power hitters
and usually they’re 1B/3B. I thought that by adding MI, it would balance the demand for all infield spots.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Haha I'm making one right now
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Go ahead.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Camden Depot interview with Korean reporter was very informative
Doesn’t seem as damning towards the O’s actions as previously believed. Sounds kind of political.
Sounds to me like the KBO has been looking to pick a fight for a while.
O’s were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Typical.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
yup
pretty much everyone knew it was a formality and they just sat back waiting for someone to make the move.
funny, too...
sort of validates duquette and law scouting perspectives.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Feb 13, 2012 9:42 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
is it common to see a jump in pitch speeds
once players enter senior year of high school / 1st year of college? I know there was the ridiculousness of expecting the kid to grow 3 more inches.
Yes…common to see a jump up as well as a jump down. Depends on growth and changes in workloads.
by crawdaddy on Feb 13, 2012 12:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't care if it's not the O's.
PITCHERS AND CATCHERS!!!!
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
So the O's were 25th in the Majors last year in Stolen Bases
For a team full of young players speed is no where to be found…I don’t see the O’s getting any better in steals in 2012.
Now they were 81/106 in stolen base attempts, which is a higher success rate than I would have guess’d. Should they try to run more in 2012?
I also thought some of it had to do with our getting on base
last year there were only a couple options -
1. Hit a homerun
2. Vlad stretches a triple into a single
3. hit into a double play
#3
2nd in GIDP in the majors…154 times.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
76% is right around the rate where it pays off, right?
I’d say they should only run more if they can do so with equal success. More stolen bases are counterproductive if they also get thrown out more often.
Well Andino was the leader at 13, caught 3 times.
A full season of playing time this guy could be looked to to make things happen.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
pie...
big culprit. moldy and angle were money.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Feb 13, 2012 10:06 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
It depends on the source- most common figure I’ve come across is the mid-60s%.
goldomatic, who is King in the art of wishful thinking
For what it’s worth…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_base_percentage
Runs created formula uses 65%.
goldomatic, who is King in the art of wishful thinking
"Team speed, for christsakes!"
“You have these little fleas gettin thrown out on,the Goldman basepaths….”
can’t post the video rant from the phone, unfortunlately.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 13, 2012 10:01 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
goddamn
stupid auto correct
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 13, 2012 10:02 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
So the Eagles have said they'll franchise DJax if they can't reach a deal with him
That will definitely go well.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Ha...I saw that.
That doesn’t make much sense to me.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
They wanna make sure they can at least trade him
but I bet he ends up signing for a year, 10mil anyway.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
If he signs it will be a multi year deal imo
I don’t wanna deal with this crap next year too.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, I thought the franchise amount was less for WRs
Though I don’t really see them signing him to a long term deal.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
It's the average of the top 5 salaries at that position in the leauge if I'm not mistaken
So it varies from position to position
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, I just saw the chart
over 16m for QBs. I wish someone would franchise me.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
As an Eagles fan, who is getting more of the blame for last season?
D-Jax or the Ownership?
I think a lot of people probably sided with Jackson initially
but then flipped on him after he had a bad season
Andy Reid, as always...but not to me.
Trying to piece together all the information I have read and heard on the demise of the Eagles this year points to 2 places for me.
1. The downfall of the Eagles was TO’s. Easy. Carelessness play by the players (Vick mostly) lead to way to many opportunities for teams to come back when the Eagles were ahead.
2. The defense didn’t buy in Rivera’s play calling until pretty late in the season, which lead to indecisive decisions on the field and caused guys to be lax in their approach in being aggressive in the secondary (tackling was HORRIBLE).
3.The Eagles were ANTI-Jeter (not clutch). They ran up and down the field the first 3 quarters of the game but when it came to crunch time they decided they would drop TD passes, throw interceptions, fumble, or the defense would fold like a $2 suitcase.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting
I know they went into last year feeling very confident, it seems like they may be ripe for a bounceback year now that they realize that they need to work hard or they will lose.
I think its finally Super Bowl or bust
If theres not a parade on Broad Street in February, Reid is looking for a new job
I think AR
even when I want to fire him, I think….Who would they hire? It’s such a crap shoot.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Well even while leading the league in TO's they still almost made the playaoffs
Football is such a weird game. I think Maclin and Jackson have their best year has a combo next year.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
I really hope Jackson isn't on the team next year
I don’t think Jackson + Maclin substantially outperforms Maclin + Avant, despite costing much more.
They might also be more likely to run a bit more in that situation
which would probably be a good thing for the Eagles.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Well I think Jackson should be back for every kickoff/punt.
So his added value in those areas helps.
I will disagree with you on Avant comparison. Desean Jackson’s game changing ability is such a superlative attribute that can’t be measured by “statistics.” Avant may be able to fulfill the void left in the stat sheet every game but you’ll never see any game changers from him.
Actually Avant (despite being super reliable) had one of the biggest drops and a fumbleof the season at the end of a game.
So much crazy stupid stuff (Ronnie Brown) happened with the Eagles this year that I don’t know what to expect next year.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not arguing Jackson isn't better than Avant
I’m saying he’s not so much better than Avant that he’s worth the enormous amount of additional money they would have to spend, especially when that money could be used to shore up areas that are of much more concern (i.e. Linebacker).
I got ya.
My plan goes to hell if they don’t get an impact LB in the draft (Donte Hightower).
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Hightower likely won't go until later in the first down
Luke Kuechly is likely the pick if they stick at 15, which we know Reid hates to do
I'd prefer Hightower...
Bigger guy, just as fast. Plays more aggressively.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I know....
unless he is a “smarter” player I don’t understand why.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
This
a lot of projections have him going in the 2nd round, though I could see the Giants taking him at 32. I think 15 would be quite a reach for Hightower.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I don't know without looking up what they all said
I seem to remember something about him not having “elite range” and the injury past came up. Most guys have him as a top option, but I think Keuchy and Burfict were rated better by almost everyone I’ve seen so far.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I've seen a lot that also have him going to the Steelers at 24
and if he gets past there, i wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the Ravens take him at 29
The Eagles were ANTI-Jeter (not clutch). They ran up and down the field the first 3 quarters of the game but when it came to crunch time they decided they would drop TD passes, throw interceptions, fumble, or the defense would fold like a $2 suitcase.
Almost all of this could be solved simply by running the ball, especially when you have one of the best backs in the league, so i think this one points back to Andy as well.
Running the ball is an easy target, rightfully so.
How Alex Smith and the 9ers came back from 24-3 in the 3rd quarter was probably the most frustrated I was with the Eagles in a long time.
Just pathetic.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
the pay isn't shabby
but the agents have convinced all the players that the franchise tage is a sign of disrespect because of the potential for injury. He will probably pout and force his way off the team unless he gets the long term deal.
He better not pout
He’s getting 10 million bucks!
I hate how Desean Jackson is being convinced that he needs a long term contract. It would be stupid of a team to give him one b/c the very thing that makes him susceptible to injury is what makes him a special player.
He has shown for the last two years that if he doesn’t give 100 percent he is barely an average player. Sure, it leaves him open to injury but it also makes him worth 1/2 year contracts for upwards of 10 million.
He needs to nut the fuck up and play the game like he can and tell his agent to GTFO.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
agents are always right
Drew R: Hey TO, do some sit ups in your driveway. No way this will backfire.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
Hey, man...
you don’t get a lucrative contract with the Allen Wranglers by NOT doing sit-ups in your driveway!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
man
I liked TO. so sad.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
pretty much
No – I liked him when he came to philly – got a jersey and everything. He entertained me and I loved his antics on the field. Same with D-Jax or the people’s champ with the pot holders. To me, this is pure entertainment. I want to see these guys score and then make an ass of themselves. And if the other team has a problem with it than don’t let them score. problem is, the shit goes into the locker room and then it gets all drama and reporters get something to write about and yada yada yada I’m annoyed.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
Never I thought I'd actually see those words typed out...or hear them uttered etc etc.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Did you see the article about how he is now bankrupt
and essentially goes on to blame everyone known to man for it. He even said that his teammates didn’t hang out with him because they were too star-struck.
we'll see
I think he gets paid and if the eagles don’t there will be a team that will which would net the birds a pick. I would prefer they kept him but I have faith the the FO can Kolb another team if they decide to trade him.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
KK will be good, give him more than 1 lockout shorten season.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
DRC and a #2 good?
KK will only be good in an AR offense.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
Peyton is going to Miami
unless the Redskins decide to offer him 20mil, which is possible.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I can't see Peyton playing under the shanahans.
That would be a very interesting battle of wills.
This.
Honestly, I can’t see him going to the Redskins under any condition.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Peyton: Coach I believe I see a flaw in their defense I can exploit
Shannahan: Shut up Manning, I am trying to figure out which running back to put in.
peyton
sad but true.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
I am clearly missing something
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Ah... much obliged
I’ll believe it when I see it though. That guy is far too competitive to give up without one hell of a fight.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Plus there is those other tens of millions of reasons....haha.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Well the money doesn't hurt
but I think with his endorsements he’s set either way. I just can’t imagine his career ending like this. I mean, if he can’t play he can’t play, but I’m sure he’ll do everything humanly possible to get back on the field.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
It's a QB driven league.
And I think Fitzgerald would have looked for other options if the Cards would not have gotten KK.
Give him a full off season and camp to learn the new offense and stuff. this time next year we can debate this better.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
i have no hard feelings for Kolb. I just think at this point the eagles won in that trade.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
On paper they won.
I’m just saying that the Cards had to do it. Maybe if there was no lockout they could have looked for other options. Eagles definitely had the leverage and they used it. haha.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
ha
On paper they won
story of my eagles fandom.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
by Philly O's on Feb 13, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Best quote ever
I sent my fanpost to a Yankee fan friend of mine and he send me back this quote. First time I had ever heard it.
You use stats like a drunk uses a lamp post, for support rather than illumination. —Padraig Harrington
he said:
He was responding to a reporter who was quoting some of his stats from last year to describe how poorly he’s played.
Harrington added, “I’m the only player to win three majors in the last 3 years” and followed it with the lamp post quote.
The Irish are nothing if not poetic
And experts on how to use things while drunk.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
that's why there are so many of them running around
AAAYYYYYOOO
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
by Gamecock24 on Feb 13, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just can't rec this
but I did laugh out loud…
my favorite part from Roch's blog
The Orioles would trade Gregg if they found a match, and they’d eat a chunk of the $5.8 million that he’s owed for 2012.
please oh please oh please let’s make this happen.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
by Gamecock24 on Feb 13, 2012 11:27 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Are there any high WAR clubhouse cancers around this year to trade for?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
With all these pitcher acquisitions, DD's gotta be trying to dump Gregg any way he can.
He’s setting up a dogfight for the bullpen spots, and Gregg is not going to win a spot. If he’s on the team and sucking past the first month of the season, it’s because Angelos/Buck won’t let DD drop Gregg
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Or because there was no one willing to take on Gregg even for only half of his salary or less.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Makes sense.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah of course
What I’m saying is DD seems like the kind of person who will drop Gregg if he sucks, contract or not. If he stays in the bullpen and puts up numbers like last year, it’s definitely Angelos’ doing.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Of course!
DD wants to trade Gregg because he got in a fight with Big Papi last season, and you don’t mess with DD’s friends!
Well, that’s one reason, the other reason is because Gregg sucks.
What up?
by snakethejake on Feb 13, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
People who understand computers, listen up!
What specifications should I get on a new desktop to keep it running well for a while? It’ll basically be a Internet/ surrogate TV/ light gaming computer, nothing fancy. Although I’ll probably need to run a CAD program on it.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
Also, is Open Office a viable replacement for Microsoft Office?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
In a desktop, these days you want the following:
Quad core processor (or better if you can get it). 8 gigs of ram (if you’re interested in keeping the computer for a few years. This is going to be the normal amount soon, and especially if you’re trying to do CAD) and a decent video card, but there are too many options to generally say what you’d want.
Open office is viable depending on what you use office for. If you just do the basics, then yeah it’s totally viable. Heck Google documents is viable if you just do the basics. And there are a bunch of other viable free options out there too.
Microsoft has Office Web Apps
Very similar to Google Docs, but you’re actually using versions of Word, Excel, etc. You have to sign up using a Windows Live ID (much the same way you use a Google ID to access Google Docs). I use these all the time, although sometimes I’ll download the document and use desktop Office.
What difference is there between DDR2/3?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
You need different ones based on your motherboard.
Are you planning on building a computer? If you’re not, then you don’t really need to worry about it.
My friend offered to build it, he told me to run the specs by him, and he'd build it.
He has a computer store.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
You shouldn't need to bother then.
If you just tell him you want 8 gigs, he’ll be forced to get the ram that works with whatever motherboard he picks. You’re probably in really good hands already if you have a friend with a computer store.
Yeah, it's not doing that well though.
I just wanted to do some research, that’s all.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
I mean, honestly unless he's getting you a good deal
You can do pretty well by going to the big retail websites. I’m not sure how much you’re looking to spend, but I just checked over at HP.com and you can assemble a comp with a 6-core processor, 8 gigs of ram, a decent video card, and 1tb of memory for under $700.
But I have to do it here, in Israel.
And I checked around some but the bottom line is that this is a gut I’d trust with my life, let alone a computer. So I’ll probably just end up taking his advice and paying his price.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Ah yeah I hadn't considered location.
and I can’t actually make any sort of claim to know more than somebody who owns a computer store, so yeah go with him haha.
The one I bought for my daughter on eBay was a great deal for $229
Here’s the specs:
CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core E5700 3.0 GHz, 800FSB (Dual Core) 2048K
CPU Fan: Intel Socket 775 fan
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-G41MT-S2P, Socket 775 DDR3. Onboard Video, Sound, LAN
Memory: 4GB (2×2GB) PC10665 DDR3 1333 Dual Channel
Video card: 256 Bit PCI-E 3D Graphics (256MB shared onboard memory)
Hard Drive: 500.0GB Western Digital 7200RPM SATA2, 300MB/s 16m cache
DVD Drive: Sony 22x DVD Recorder Dual Layer +R/RW -R/RW
Sound Card: Realtek HD digital audio (onboard)
Network Card: 10/100/1000Mbps Ethernet network adapter (onboard)
Case: Cooler Master Thermal Master TC102 black edition, front USB 2.0 and audio ports. Case supports extra long graphics cards.
Power Supply: Cooler Master 500 Watt ATX Power Supply
You can find one-man computer shops and get some great deals, if you know what to look for.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
DDR3 RAM is faster
Though the speed of the RAM probably won’t be TOO important if you’re not doing heavy gaming. But still, better to get DDR3 than DDR2. Most good mobos use DDR3 these days anyway.
by Holymittens on Feb 13, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I would use LibreOffice instead of Open Office
Libre Office is a developmental fork of Open Office and is better in most respects.
DaveAA is right in the other cases. Quad core, 8 GB of RAM, and a decent graphics card. A 1TB HDD is not too expensive right now and should keep you good on space for a while.
The most important thing is to get something that is upgradable. A lot of pre-made computers have little in the room for expansion and upgrades. You do not want that.
by Holymittens on Feb 13, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Have hard drive prices come back down to near normal yet?
Or are they still high from the Thailand flooding? I haven’t checked in a while
I didn't realize they'd ever spiked
I haven’t had to buy any HDDs in close to a year.
by Holymittens on Feb 13, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
They're still not good.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
These guys are giving good advice.
I would add that perhaps the best thing for you to do is to decide what your budget is and work from there. That way you’re more able to put together the best system available for $500, or $800, or however high you want to go.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
KLaw vs. Yoo Jee-ho on Kim Seong-Min
Keith Law tweet:
The O’s gave $550K to a 5’9" Korean HS lefty throwing 80-83 with no feel for a breaking ball. Nice use of savings from cutting pro scouting.
Yoo Jee-ho in the Camden Depot article:
Kim was considered the top lefty in high schools over here and since he had another high school season ahead of him (before the Baltimore deal), local scouts felt that Kim could improve even more and eventually become a first-round draft choice in the KBO. His fastball tops out at about 89-90 miles per hour, and he also throws above-average changeup and curve. Obviously not overpowering, but he’s got decent command. Any left-hander with his upside and stuff is a valued commodity here, but I myself was surprised to see him snatched up by a major league team. Maybe the O’s scouts saw something in him.
That’s a sizeable disagreement about the kid’s stuff. Guess which one of these writers lives in S. Korea and covers sports for its largest news organization?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
he'll be one of the more interesting stories to follow in ST I guess
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
He has a ST invite? I thought DD wanted to send him to Delmarva.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Again
it’s not just the big gap in the tools they each describe, it’s the certainty with which KLaw describes them that annoys me.
by O'sFan21 on Feb 13, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Indeed
It seems clear he’s going off outdated, second-hand information. But he hasn’t said anything about him since that Tweet, which was before other reports about Kim’s velocity came out. Hopefully Kim will pitch to what DD says he can in spring training and we can try to get a mea culpa from KLaw. It’ll be interesting to see if he’ll actually admit to being wrong.
by Holymittens on Feb 13, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure that's true about the outdated, second-hand info.
A more responsible journalist would say “From what I’ve heard blah blah blah…” or “According to reports I’ve seen…” instead of just stating it as fact.
Well, it was on the Twitter
But yeah, he should have clarified it.
by Holymittens on Feb 13, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck that excuse.
Just seriously shove that excuse up your (not yours personally, Holymittens) ass. Twitter can not be an excuse for bad journalism.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
I kind of though k-law was being snippy / sarcastic in his twitter comment
rather than presenting a serious scouting report on the kid.
If he wants to make snarky comments with no basis in fact
then maybe he shouldn’t have become a journalist that people look to for actual real-life information based in fact.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
"No basis in fact"
That seems unlikely. Like I said, it’s probably based off an old scouting report.
by Holymittens on Feb 13, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing like a good old CC debate between KLAW haters and fanboys
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
to be fair I am more of a Klaw agnostic
I was just throwing out that it seemed more of a snark like OOH the os suck haha comment than one meant to be taken factually.
That and I don’t believe that anything on twitter other than links to articles should be taken factually either.
If Roch did something like that
you guys would be all over him. This is ridiculous and I can’t believe people are trying to defend Keith Law for being flat out wrong just because he used twitter.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
I doubt I'd be all over Roch
Because I do not care about him.
However, they’re different people and there are different expectations tied to them. Roch doesn’t have a history of making snarky comments, for one.
by Holymittens on Feb 13, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Roch would have to use twitter other than to bust on other Orioles writers to be wrong on twitter.
All of the local press use twitter to bust on one another though. I think it’s their coping mechanism. I can’t blame them.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
britt?
connolly? not worthless w/ the twitter.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Feb 13, 2012 1:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I should say, some of them use it for more than just busting on their colleagues.
Britt and Dan are two of the ones who actually communicate useful information to fans other than auto-tweets about articles that were just posted online, definitely.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
we don't actually know the truth of the matter yet, though
won’t until there are some actual in person reports on the kid.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Competing scouting reports is nothing new.
Not to mention, they’re not necessary contradictory. He could top out at 89 while typically sit at the lower range.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
i knew in advance you would somehow defend KLaw on this
and here you are.
I don’t think there are a lot of pitchers who “sit” 80-83" and top out at 89.
And no, competing scouting reports aren’t anything new. Neither is Law’s hard-on for trashing the Orioles decisions with less than complete information.
The whole point of the post, in fact, was that there are two competing reports, and one of them seems far more likely to be accurate.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Feb 13, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t get all of the hate, as I’m sure you know. Even in this report. He hates what the O’s did the scouting report. His snark is no different from a lot people who post on twitter or even here.
The whole point of the post, in fact, was that there are two competing reports, and one of them seems far more likely to be accurate.
Yes, I agree with that point.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
He hates what the O’s did the scouting report.
I don’t really understand this.
But Law’s overwhelming dismissiveness towards the O’s is the reason for the hate on my part.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
He's no more or less dismissive toward the Os than any other team that makes a bunch of questionable moves
Even the reporter quoted in the article said he was surprised that a Major League team signed the kid.
Even the reporter quoted in the article said he was surprised that a Major League team signed the kid.
Yes, he did. In a fairly even-handed way. When you’re trying to think outside the box and exploit market inefficiencies, it stands to reason that you’re going to raise eyebrows. If you don’t, you’re probably not actually thinking outside the box. I’m sure when Billy Beane was originally signing fat catchers with high OPS, people were questioning the moves.
It’s just a matter of tone, professionalism, and admitting one’s own bias and/or fallibility. What Law does is not only present things with tremendous bias, but presents them with a level of derision that strikes me as unprofessional and primarily designed to draw traffic. He’s the Glenn Beck of sportspundits.
DD has been on the job for three months and has done nothing that merits such overwhelming dismissal. I’m not saying DD’s moves aren’t open to criticism—again, it’s the vitriol and the tone of the criticism I’m talking about.
The Guthrie trade is perfect example. By and large the overall reaction multiple media outlets has been varied, with roughly even percentages of people voting slightly O’s / it’s a wash / slightly Rockies. Keith Law, on the other hand, posts things like,
I do enjoy watching the contortions required to try to make this move anything other than absurd for the Orioles, though.
“Anything other than absurd”? Really?
Of course, he has to say these things now, because his own narrative is “no candidate with an ounce of self-respect will take the Orioles job”, so he has to back that up by tearing down Duquette.
He’s biased. And even though I have no doubt he’s right a lot of the time, something like the Seong signing makes that bias ever clearer. He’s so eager to bash the team and to get his tweet out, he can’t be bothered to ask himself if he even knows anything about the situation or the player involved. And that bias filters everything I hear from him now.
Keith Law is a hack.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Then why do you get so vitrolic about his opinion?
If he’s a hack, you can safely ignore him.
Instead, you go out of your way to bring up how much you hate him all the time.
I don't go out of my way.
Keith Law is posted on here all the time. I gotta defend my team.
Peter Schmuck is a hack, and when he’s quoted on here, I rag on him as well.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
tru dat
Team knower!
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
Is Z the best poster on SB Nation?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
hahaha
well he does root for the worst football team in the nation.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
by Philly O's on Feb 14, 2012 7:55 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
they're just unlucky.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Feb 14, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm all about defending my team!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
DD has been on the job for three months and has done nothing that merits such overwhelming dismissal. I’m not saying DD’s moves aren’t open to criticism—again, it’s the vitriol and the tone of the criticism I’m talking about.
I just want to say that I agree with you about Law’s tone. He’s snarky and he’s well-known for his snark in his tweets and chats (his formal articles are professional IMO). I prefer nice people over mean people so I really don’t like the snark. But I find always his analysis even handed and reasonable. Unfortunately, when he arrives at a conclusion that is negative for a team, he can be jerk about it. And that understandably pisses off people.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Also, I've eyt to see anything that shows actual bias
He is equally dismissive and snarky toward any team who makes a move that he doesn’t like.
yeah, the only thing he's biased against is moves he perceives as stupid.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
whoops, he hates what the O's did to the scouting department.
The whole jazz about dismantling the pro scouting branch.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
But he didn't say "typically" he said he throwing 80-83
There is no way to interpret that statement as being possibly inclusive of somebody that can throw 89 mph.
Yeah
Which is why I believe he’s going off what has to be old or faulty scouting. So when Kim is throwing 89-90 in spring training, all the haters can shove it down his throat.
could have just caught him on a bad day.
not sure who law has scouting for him in Asia.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Again the entire point of all of this
is he states it as current fact – not as some single scouting report or game tape or what he heard from somebody who heard from somebody. He stated it as a factual description of what the O’s got.
SNOW!
Well, it’s mostly slush now.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 12:10 PM EST reply actions
The twitter says Cespedes has signed with the Athletics.
I mean an actual reporter said it, not some random clown like me.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 12:11 PM EST reply actions
gwow!
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by j.q. higgins on Feb 13, 2012 12:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Further: Buster Olney reports it's a 4 year / $36 million deal.
I wonder how many teams’ fans will be thinking, “For that price, why couldn’t our team sign him?”
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by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
that sucks
For that price, why couldn’t we sign him?
The low price doesn't really change much though does it?
If he’s as good as it’s rumored, he’s a steal at even a much higher price, and if it was the cuban leagues inflating his numbers dramatically and he’s a bust, then it’s a waste of money.
Still not sure if I'm a fan.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
so
does this bring the price of Soler down?
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
I don't know,
$9M per essentially makes it difficult for him to exceed expectations unless he’s really good.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
I've seen his potential be described as Adam Jones-like.
If he makes the adjustment to MLB, he should be fine. I just think it’ll take him too long to do so.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
$36M is a lot of cash,
especially when it can be used for a lot of talent in Latin America and North Korea. He could be great, but if he’s just pretty good, the A’s won’t extract a lot of value IMO.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
Link?
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
You got it
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Sources: Oakland has agreed to terms with Yoenis Cespedes, 4 years, $36 million.
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by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
So you only care about Latin American players who come cheap?
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Analysis of the A's signing
It is interesting and defending the move as sound for the A’s.
Allowing him to become a free agent after four years is the shocker for me.
As soon as the A’s could compete, Cepedes will be getting ready to hit free agency. This seems like an inbetween move that Beane has famously said he’s against.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
They do seem to be giving up a lot of leverage to him
so that if he is awesome they will be handcuffed to pay him big money or lose the central cog in their re-build.
I never know what to think with the A's
If there’s not a no-trade clause, I would keep my bags packed if I was Cespedes. I wouldn’t put it past Beane to have seized the opportunity to get him on a decent contract if only to trade him within a year or two.
My problem with Cespedes is that he is now hitting his prime but hasn't proven
himself ready to face ML pitching. He’ll probably need some time in the minors and with that short a contract, at a stage in his development where he’s peaking physically, you need to know that he’s ready.
That’s why I prefer Jorge Soler.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I think that's a fair outlook.
If there’s a year that has to be spent in AAA, that’s 25% of the deal, and he’s 27 after that year. Good luck to him though, except for when he’s playing the Orioles. Not that he’ll need luck against the Orioles, because the Orioles suck in and against Oakland anyway.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
40/6 = 6.33 < 9 = 36/4
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
i rather pay nine millions a year for jorge soler or yasiel puig, not cespedes
they are younger and can fit easily in our success core; Bundy’s, Machado, Schoop,….
Jon Garland signed a MiL deal with the Indians.
It’s not important, I just irrationaly like him a lot.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
Not that I can think of. But for some reason I always keep an eye on him.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
No, I'm with you
I irrationally like any pitcher from the 2005 White Sox alot too. Whether it’s Buerhle, Garland, Vasquez, Garcia or Contreras. I can explain nothing.
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Judy>>>>>
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
The Walking Dead had a good return.
It’s always nice to have an ep. with almost no Andrea, that pretty much signals a good episode.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 12:28 PM EST reply actions
agreed.
It was real solid. A little slow at times but not in a bad way. The preview for next weeks episode was good. Looks like itll be an intense episode.
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by Parkinglotninja on Feb 13, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
I really liked it
and I like what they’re (finally) doing with Rick.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
This is the same type of development he went through in the books
it just happened way faster in the books. Hopefully they aren’t done with his development yet either.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I was surprised that they did it, honestly
I’m glad, but I didn’t know if they’d be comfortable going that route on TV.
Well he has much farther to go to equal his book counterpart
but it’s good to see him headed in that direction. I’m mostly hoping they put Shane on the path he took in the books (not trying to spoil anything here, but you get my drift).
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
do you guys reccomend the books?
I may throw them on my next birthday or christmas list.
I love them
I was really hesitant to read them because you know, comic books, but I think they’re great.
All comic books are nerdy.
You should know this by now.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
There are some really good comic books
Even ignoring the super hero stuff.
It’s a medium, nothing else.
I am cool with the graphic arts
I like some of the graphic novels, I just started fables, and have read some of the batman novels done by frank miller, as well as watchmen.
I think it is an interesting combination of “camera angles” and writing.
As strongly as I possibly can
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now cespedes' friend, alfredo despaigne has to leave the island directly
i think, after hearing this news about the millions of cespedes, many baseballplayers in cuba are going to leave the island on a high velocity.
I hate 11am meetings that end up going well over their allotted 30 minutes.
The only thing I could think about the whole time was food. It became so unproductive.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Excel questions...
I have an Excel with two sheets in it. The first sheet is a summation sheet. The second sheet is where my data sits.
Now, picture a 10 column by 25 row table. Random (for all intents and purposes, anyway) cells have ‘X’ in them.
On my summation sheet, I need formulas to calculate:
1) The total number of rows on the data sheet, but done in such a manner so that when I add rows 26, 27, etc. the summation sheet automatically updates.
2) The number of X’s in each column on the data sheet (with it automatically updating for new rows added).
If you had asked this like.....two months ago...I could have answered this.
I’d have to look, but I think I know what you’re getting at. For number two, you can just have it count whether or not an X exists and then sum the Xs.
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by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
With a SUMIF...
=SUMIF
The range will be, say, column B from the data sheet.
The criteria will be “X=1”?
What’s the sum_range?
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yep.
I forgot how to keep it open though, so you can keep adding rows and add that automatically to the sum.
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by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
this, copy the formula down much further than your current sheet goes
so when you add a new row it is still calculating (countif function)
countif(a23,“x”) then just sum at the bottom of the column of countif functions.
a1 =x b1= countif(a1,“x”)
a2 =0 b2 = countif (a2,“x”)
a3 = x b3 = countif (a3,“x”)
b45= sum(b1:b44)
pivot
just create a pivot. expand the area well beyond what you need. refresh when you need to use it again.
1) set it to count values (some value in every row)
2) filter the column with “x” in the pivot to show only values with x, then set the formula to count values
or use countif functions
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I've never done a pivot table before... but I'll google it.
Thanks for the tips.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
A pivot table is a dynamic table that you can move data in/out of.
It sounds like the best option for what you are doing.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 13, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Here is what you do.
1) if you create your sum function. it should update when you add in rows, for example =sum(A1:A100). if you insert rows into A98, A99 the sum will become =sum(A1:A102) automatically.
2) =countif (“range”,“x”)
BASEBALL RELATED: Somebody I know on facebook has quit drinking soda
and posts about it relentlessly, as if they’re giving up heroine. I think it’s dumb, and would probably be about the easiest thing in the world to do. “10 days without soda!” Am I right to poo poo this effort of theirs, or would it take actual effort to get off the sugar juice?
I believe it would be easier to quit heroin than caffeine, personally.
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I can't possibly believe this!
I get the hyperbole but come on! If you get a little baby headache from not having caffeine, take a little baby aspirin too!
In my case's it probably more psychological
I can’t imagine getting through a morning awake without caffeine. I’ve tried, I crash like Nick Nolte at 2am on a Sunday morning in a ’69 Mustang.
Seriously, I have no idea how anyone over the age of 35 can teach HS and not drink waaaaay too much caffeine that is healthy. I tried to go without caffeine after 10 am for about 2 weeks, and I was a zombie by 1 pm.
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I obviously don't know if you do this or not
but from what I’ve been told exercise and diet change will do wonders for energy level.
More sleep is the clear answer
I know, I know, with your schedule – not gonna happen.
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- Merrill Markoe
Caffeine's addictive qualities are much less than heroin's
Caffeine withdrawal is a mild headache.
by Holymittens on Feb 13, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I believe this.
The accessibility of caffeine is what makes it the hardest. It’s probably why I was able to kick heroin but can’t kick booze.
Robert Andino, let me buy you a beer.
i did like 40 days without it to start this new year and it was cake...
i vote rain on them.
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by Parkinglotninja on Feb 13, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I have mostly given up soda.
However, I relapse from time to time (this weekend I had 4 Cokes because my wife bought some of the glass bottles).
In China, I drank probably two liters of soda each day, but I was younger and more active so my metabolism could handle it. When I came back, I ditched the soda after 6 months and replaced it with iced tea. Unfortunately, that stuff still has a metric butt-ton of sugar in it. Over the past 6 months, I’ve slowly weened myself off of iced tea to drinking Chinese hot tea or water for 95% of my liquid intake (5% is beer).
It’s not easy. Once you get ‘addicted’ to it, even seeing a bottle makes you want to drink it. Soda is sugary… it’s caffeinated… it’s packaged to make you crave it. Go easy on your friend. Soda is not good for you and it is an incredibly difficult habit to break.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think it's addictive like that, I guess
because in my experience, when I wanted to stop drinking soda, I just said “no thanks” when somebody asked me if I wanted a soda. And I didn’t put the dollar into the machine to buy one any more. It’s not like crack!
I think it depends on a lot of other factors.
If you’re not getting enough sleep, subconsciously substituting soda for food occasionally, mildly depressed and subconsciously seeking out the little sugar highs, etc., then it’s easy to go from a 20 oz. bottle once or twice a week to a couple of two liters a week or more, and then have some trouble getting off of it without addressing the other issues.
I actually started a(nother) no-soda kick about a week ago myself, and yeah, it’s only particularly tough when the stuff is around. If I don’t buy soda, I don’t miss it much. Then I go see family for a week and there’s soda in the house, and I miss it when I’m back to working.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
And there's the rub...
I actually started a(nother) no-soda kick about a week ago myself, and yeah, it’s only particularly tough when the stuff is around. If I don’t buy soda, I don’t miss it much. Then I go see family for a week and there’s soda in the house, and I miss it when I’m back to working.
I also don’t have a problem when it’s not around.
The problem is, soda is practically omnipresent in American life. If I go into a grocery store, I avoid that aisle like it’s the fucking plague. My wife loves Coke, but typically will not buy it because she knows how I am. This weekend was just an issue of getting glass bottles of Coke, which are relatively rare (and taste so, so, so much better).
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
That's another line of thinking I think is total crap.
It tastes the same in whatever bottle or can, and it doesn’t matter if it’s made with cane sugar or corn syrup. I would be willing to put money on a blind taste test.
Do you think that beer tastes the same from a bottle, a can, and the tap?
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I think people THINK they can tell the difference, but they really can't.
NPR just did a story recently showing that wine tasters mostly couldn’t tell the difference between red and white wine at room temperature, and that most people couldn’t tell the difference between dog food and liver pate if it was presented correctly.
Fair enough.
I claim no scientific basis for my belief that Coke from glass bottles tastes better than Coke from plastic bottles or aluminum cans.
However, my overall point on this topic is that soda addiction is very psychological. That shit gets in your head. It’s probably the same with feeling that there’s a different taste based on packaging.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Wrong, wrong, and wrong
Cane sugar soda is nectar from the gods.
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I think it's mental. Like I said I'd be willing to put money on a blind taste test
because I think it would show people don’t know the difference.
Yeah,
I love me some Pepsi Throwback. And from a bottle, not a can — I can’t always tell the differenec, but sometimes it tastes like diet soda to me when it’s from a can.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Get Iowa out of the leadoff spot every 4 years
And watch how fast everything stops being contaminated with corn syrup
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
Corn syrup = contaminated
C’mon, man, it’s just not the same.
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Chemically, its practically identical to sucrose
and theres no evidence that it has any different health effects. Where Corn syrup has a negative impact though, is socially. Corn subsidies make its unreasonably cheap to sweeten things, which leads to increased obesity. Theres nothing harmful about corn syrup per se, the issue is with the quantities its consumed in.
There are some studies that say the body reacts far differently to corn syrup than regular sugar
There are counter studies that say they’re the same, but most of the counter studies seem to be funded by the corn syrup industry.
Yeah, I don't really know enough about it to say which are more convincing
I don’t really care, either, because I avoid most stuff with too much sugar in it these days.
Michael Pollan
It’s probably no coincidence that the wholesale switch to corn sweeteners in the 1980′s marks the beginning of the epidemic of obesity and Type 2 diabetes in this country. Sweetness became so cheap that soft drink makers, rather than lower their prices, super-sized their serving portions and marketing budgets. Thousands of new sweetened snack foods hit the market, and the amount of fructose in our diets soared.
This would be bad enough for the American waistline, but there’s also preliminary research suggesting that high-fructose corn syrup is metabolized differently than other sugars, making it potentially more harmful. A recent study at the University of Minnesota found that a diet high in fructose (as compared to glucose) elevates triglyceride levels in men shortly after eating, a phenomenon that has been linked to an increased risk of obesity and heart disease. Little is known about the health effects of eating animals that have themselves eaten so much corn, but in the case of cattle, researchers have found that corn-fed beef is higher in saturated fats than grass-fed beef.
That’s from 10 years ago. Presumably there is more evidence now one way or the other.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
A recent study at the University of Minnesota found that a diet high in fructose (as compared to glucose) elevates triglyceride levels in men shortly after eating, a phenomenon that has been linked to an increased risk of obesity and heart disease.
Well this part i take issue with. HFCS used in soft drinks is 42% fructose. Table sugar is 50% fructose.
first off
the majority of soft drinks use 55% fructose, not 42%.
second, the more major soft drink issue is about larger drinks. when I grew up, soda came in 12 oz or 8oz cans and 7oz bottles. now 16-20oz is the norm, 12 oz is harder to find, and 8oz has disappeared. consumers will almost always “finish the soda” because they believe they’ve paid for it. hence, we’re consuming far more sugar because of the subsidization of HFCS.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Wikipedia said it was the 42%, its possible thats wrong
The rest of this is the exact point i made above:
Chemically, its practically identical to sucrose and theres no evidence that it has any different health effects. Where Corn syrup has a negative impact though, is socially. Corn subsidies make its unreasonably cheap to sweeten things, which leads to increased obesity. Theres nothing harmful about corn syrup per se, the issue is with the quantities its consumed in.
Wikipedia says it's 55%.
not sure what link you’re looking at, but this says 55, and if you google HFCS 55 a ton of soft drinks will come up.
And what is your grammatically-challenged quote from? There is not consensus agreement that there is “nothing harmful about corn syrus per se.”
It doesn’t stimulate insulin and it may well lead to high triglycerides since it’s broken down in the liver instead of the pancreas:
Fructose is absorbed from the gastrointestinal tract by a different mechanism than that for glucose. Glucose stimulates insulin release from the isolated pancreas, but fructose does not. Fructose is metabolized primarily in the liver. Once inside the liver cell, fructose can enter the pathways that provide glycerol, the backbone for triacylglycerol.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
And what is your grammatically-challenged quote from?
thats what i said above, so thanks for reinforcing my poor grammar lol. And no evidence was too strong, theres conflicting evidence. But even if there is a biological difference, my opinion is still that over-consumption due to inefficient pricing is a much bigger issue.
ouch, sorry
didn’t mean to bust on your grammar; i thought i was attacking some other, faceless internet soul.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
And i was reading this part
HFCS 42 (used in beverages, processed foods, cereals and baked goods)
I’m not sure what the distinction is between beverages and soft drinks, though there probably is none and its just poor wikipedia construction.
Not so much a commentary on health or even taste in terms of corn vs cane
But on the absurdity of the artificial market created for a commodity that happens to grow in a state with perpetually favoured political status.
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well you did spend a lot of time in the south
But for my money it doesn’t get any better than a nice strong glass of unsweet tea. Sugar is only added if the tea is kinda gross to make it better.
i'm not talking about sweet tea like they drink it in the South
more like at least a pack or two of sugar, Domino sugar of course
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Southern sweet tea isn't crunchy
but it’s sweet as all fuck. My favorite BBQ place in the world is this little old dirty place in the middle of nowhere, NC. They have a gallon of sweet tea on the table, and I always order unsweetened tea so I don’t die during a meal. I still steal half a glass of the sweet stuff, but any more than that would put you into diabetic shock.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Most likely small sample size
was in a restaraunt with a guy from georgia watched him dump packet after packet of suger into his tea and say it isn’t sweet tea if it isn’t crunchy.
but I am heartend to hear that not all sweet tea drinkers are as enthusiastic as him.
that guy was an idiot
sweet tea is made with simple syrup so the sugar’s already dissolved.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Some sweet tea has so much sugar in it
i could see some of it falling out of solution if it got too cold
BLASPHEMY!
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Maryland really is "the South" in some parts and "the North" in others, huh?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Yup
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It isn't the Old Line State for nothing.
An odd quirk of being from Maryland is that I visit southern states and they laugh at me for talking fast and being a northerner, and go to the northern states and they laugh at me for clearly being a southerner.
The Old Line State actually has nothing to do with the Mason-Dixon Line.
In the Revolutionary War, the Battle for Long Island was this close to being a complete disaster for Washington and the Americans. They were about to get hit on their flank by like 10,000 men. Washington had to get the bulk of his army to retreat.
The rear guard? That would be a regiment of 400 Marylanders. They attacked a British-fortified house six consecutive times to gum up the pursuit of the main body of the army, outnumbered more than five to one. More than half of them were killed, most of the survivors were wounded or captured. Washington observed this from a distance, and of the Maryland Line, legend holds that he said, “Good God, what brave fellows I must this day lose!”
So Maryland is, to this day, the Old Line State.
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by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
I think you are speaking
about things you know not of. Here in NC, tea is sweet. Only diabetics drink unsweet, and they use pick or yellow packets.
Birdland and Buck both start with B... coincidence? I think not.
by Birdland in NC on Feb 13, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
This has probably been asked...
but where in NC are you from?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I live in Concord, but moving to Kannapolis
I am originally from Fredericksburg, Va., though.
Birdland and Buck both start with B... coincidence? I think not.
by Birdland in NC on Feb 13, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Oh you're out west
My whole family lives in NC now, but they are much closer to Raleigh
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
West? Well, the peidmont isn't the mountains, but yeah west of Raliegh.
Birdland and Buck both start with B... coincidence? I think not.
by Birdland in NC on Feb 14, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, I just meant west of the area my family lives in
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Holy guacamole man....two liters a day??
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
But does he know how to post videos to Facebook?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Good lord.
I drink about 2-3 cups of coffee a week. Occasionally I’ll break down and drink a soda.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Good golly, man.
How are you still alive? I get jittery as hell when I drink caffeine. Not to mention I feel like shit later in the day.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Caffeine has an unnoticable effect on me
I don’t want to say 0 effect, because I’m sure it does. But I don’t feel any different when I have had caffeine and when I haven’t.
Jeez.
Maybe its just mental for me, but I feel like whenever I drink something caffeinated after about noon-ish, I can’t sleep.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
I’ve done that before. Well, I used to do it all the time. Now not as much.
And if I drink a soda in the morning, the caffeine doesn’t wake me up. I take just as much time to feel not like crap as I do when I don’t have any caffeine.
This is me
I don’t like coffee much, but often when I do drink it it’s right before bed.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I dont know how but I had a friend who got to the point
where coffee and caffeine made him sleepy.
Does this guy still have real teeth?
People that consume that much caffeine have to have issues with acid and whatnot.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I was completely and utterly shocked when...
… after all that damn soda I drank in my four years in Asia, and not having been to a dentist in nearly a decade, I had one small cavity.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
on the rare occasion that I drink a regular soda
usually when I’m hung over because there is just something about an ice cold fountain soda that appeals to me in that situation, I always can’t wait to brush my teeth after. They just feel so weird.
Might not want to rush that.
I’ve read that brushing one’s teeth too soon after drinking soda can actually be worse for your teeth than waiting a while — something about either the toothpaste or abrasion (or both) while there’s still a fair amount of acid in the mouth.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Yeah. It's any eating at all
When you eat anything, acid in your mouth builds up and softens the enamel on your teeth. If you immediately go brush after eating, you more easily wear the enamel on your teeth away, which creates crevices for bacteria to grow in and cause cavities.
that's interesting
but it’s never really immediately anyway. Sadly, I don’t have a fountain soda machine at my house.
2 cups a day!!!
blame zk!
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta drink it while it's fresh!
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Fucking Giants winning
and Redskins losing. It’s destroying your health!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
It's a painful daily reminder of how great the Giants were this year.
btw, they were pretty great, like, the best actually. I mean, literally, the best.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Like, champions?
WORLD champions?!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
That's what it said in the NY Times, so I assume it's true.
The New York Giants beat the whole world at football.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Well there's your mistake
That’s what it said in the NY Times, so I assume it’s true.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Man, they must be great!
Have a cup of coffee to celebrate
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I will.
Hopefully, someone will stop by your house and buy you a night’s worth of drinks to celebrate. Keep your fingers crossed.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
You mentioned it, but had not posted it
I’ll have to watch it when I get home. No audio at work.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Hah I have nothing against that
Tosh is a funny guy. I can laugh because the Giants won the SUPER BOWL!!!!!
Also, I enjoyed how the joke about the Giants not being that good came at the expense of how bad the Redskins are.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Feb 13, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah I thought that was funny too
using the redskins shittyness to illustrate the giants shittyness works for me.
Of course that "shitiness" is all relative
I rather be the “shitty” team that won 6 of its last 7 games (all but one of which were on the road) and won the Super Bowl
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Except that the Giants aren't actually shitty
Seeing as how they had to beat the “best” teams in the NFL to win the Super Bowl. Sure, they had a shitty part of their season, but that happens when you have more games lost due to injury for your starters than any other team in the league while playing the most difficult schedule in the league. Sure, they lost 4 straight at one point, but they were also at their weakest injury-wise and facing the top 3 teams in the NFC. They got healthier and, surprise, got better. Then went on to finish their year 13-7 with a ring to show for it.
Of course, there’s no excuse for losing twice to the Redskins. Everyone expected the Giants to win those games even though they were heavily depleted by injury because they were still a more talented team. Sometimes shit happens.
Oh, and this championship was luck too, huh? Never would have guessed you’d feel that way…
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Feb 14, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Excellent counterpoint
Whatever helps you sleep at night, man.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
^Statement based on total bullshit personal opinion
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 14, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wrong.
They beat the 15-1 Packers, the 2nd seeded 49ers, the 1st seed Patriots, oh yeah, and you know, they won the Super Bowl.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 14, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How do those things make what I said wrong?
I’m confused. Does the fact that they beat the packers, 49ers, and patriots mean that they weren’t 9-7 and didn’t get swept by the skins?
No your facts were correct.
I was just saying you were wrong about them being shitty.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 15, 2012 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
How does being 9-7 at one point this year make them "shitty"?
At worst that seems just slightly above average (which by definition, it is). They went on to win another 4 games after that, making them 13-7, and they beat the teams with the best records in the league to win the Super Bowl.
I’m sure you’re just trolling, but this isn’t even a debatable viewpoint. You can say they weren’t the best team in the league and that can be debated, but there’s absolutely nothing to support them being called an overall “shitty” team.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
"At one point"? It was at the end of the regular season.
That’s shitty for a playoff team.
Yeah it’s not a debatable viewpoint because everybody other than Giants fans knows they were shitty and just got hot at the right time.
everybody other than Giants fans knows they were shitty
Oh yea? Put it to a vote here on CC. Seeing how Westie and I are the only Giants fans you should be able to get a good response. I don’t even care that half the site is Redskins/Eagles fans. I’d bet if you asked “Were the 2011/2012 NY Giants a shitty football team?” the majority would disagree.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Feb 15, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You seemed sure
when you said “everybody other than Giants fans”. Why not put it to a test? If you’re so sure of it, wouldn’t you want to prove it?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Technically any non-Giants fan could disprove that point
but the burden of proof is on you, not me. Without it, it’s just another statement based on total bullshit personal opinion.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Lol
and you’re the one that made the ridiculous claim. If you’re not interested in validating it that’s on you. Just go on living in your world where every team you dislike is only successful because of luck and ridiculous hot streaks.
Maybe one day a team you follow will actually win something and you can explain that into insignificance too.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I don't know why you're making this about more than the Giants
I dislike almost every other team in the league, some as much as the Giants, and I don’t attribute it to luck or hot streaks when they win unless it was due to luck/hot streaks.
The only comparable is when the SF Giants won the WS and I think they were lucky and got hot at the right time too, but they at least had a good regular season albeit in a shitty division.
I sure hope so, but hopefully they’ll be a dominant team instead. That would be more fun, so I wouldn’t have to deal with stuff like this. Must be annoying, despite the championship.
You're the same guy that tried to make a case that Derek Jeter's entire career was just lucky
You like to try to shit on other teams’ accomplishment to make yourself feel better.
And the only person I’ve had to “deal with stuff like this from” is you, despite having plenty of Eagles, Redskins, and Cowboys fan friends. You’re the only one trying to explain it away because you’re the only one that constantly cries about how everyone else is lucky.
Fact is, despite all their adversity, they finished the season above average, made the playoffs, and went on the road and defeated 4 of the best teams in the league in their own homes to win a championship. they finished the year 13-7. If you can’t see how that isn’t shitty, then you are wearing some brown-colored glasses.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Oh I absolutely believe that Jeter has been lucky as a hitter for his career
I don’t believe that he’s intentionally miss-hitting the ball.
Out of the two of us, it seems like you’re the one crying. I’m perfectly fine with the whole thing.
And I think both of our points are based on total bullshit personal opinion
your statement that it’s not debatable.
Seeing as they won the Super Bowl
which is the ultimate goal of every team in the league at the beginning of every season, I do believe it is not debatable that they are not in fact “shitty”. They were the only team that achieved that goal.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
If they were so shitty how did they beat
the #1 seeded teams in both the AFC and NFC as well as the 2nd seed in the NFC?
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 16, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Playoffs are still 20% of the season in football.
Only 11% in baseball.
Also, they beat the Pats in the RS and came within 3 of the Packers in the RS.
You also keep saying they were lucky during the playoffs, but what actually happened was they were cold during the regular season, they were hurt and lost some close games. They got healthy in the playoff and performed to their true talent level.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 16, 2012 3:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Their 4 game losing streak is the same sample size as the playoffs
so if you’re so eager to throw out the 4 games against the top teams in football, we can just as easily throw out the 4 games in a row they lost in the middle of the season (also mostly against the other top teams in football, and while they were the most injured team in the NFL..
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Yes
maybe the best team doesn’t always win, but a shitty one never has.
And again, you’re throwing out the fact that they played the toughest NFL schedule while being the team hardest hit by injuries in the NFL. You’re choosing to ignore that so you can try to make your case. It’s the same reason we know that last year’s St. Louis Cardinals 90 win team =/= last years Boston 90 win team. You can’t throw out level of competition or injuries to key players, unless you want to make a total bullshit claim.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Ehhhh
I don’t know about “never.” Absolutes in sports are silly.
I think your assertion that they were the hardest hit by injuries in the NFL is debatable too.
They lost more games to starters than any team in the NFL
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I phrased it poorly
Their starters lost more games to injury than any team in the NFL. Basically, if you add up all the games missed due to injury by starters, the Giants have the biggest number.
And that doesn’t take into account all the games missed by guys that were backups but would have been starting once the actual starters went down.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Ah
I’m not sure that’s necessarily the best way to determine whether a team is hardest hit by injury. Just off the top of my head I think Indy might have been harder hit by injury…
Well losing Peyton is huge
and that’s why that team won 2 games. But the Giants had 5 CBs go down to injury (and they were out at the same time). They lost their starting middle LB for the year, lost their top 2 draft picks before the season, their starting DT, their starting OL, their 3rd WR… it goes on. On top of that, players like Tuck, Osi, and Bradshaw all missed games.
To top it off, they finished with the greatest strength of schedule, meaning their opponents won more total games and lost fewer total games than anyone else’s opponents.
So yea, when you combine those 2 things and they still manage to go to the playoffs, then you see them when they finally start getting some of their injured players back make the run that they did to end the season, it tells you something. Or you can say it doesn’t tell you anything and believe whatever you want to believe.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
But now you're qualifying
with all kinds of things, strength of schedule, making the playoffs, winning the SB, etc. If you include all those things sure they were the most injury ridden team to do that., but that’s a lot different than saying they were the hardest hit by injury.
Well by hardest hit by injury
I just meant their starters missed the most games due to injury. None of the qualifiers are needed.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Also
why the fuck do you keep feeding the troll?
Do you honestly think that I think the Giants are a shitty team? I’m a lot of things, but an idiot is not one of them.
Because I wanted you to admit that they aren't a shitty team
Honestly, sometimes I think you convince yourself of things just so you can argue about them. I don’t know what goes on in your head, but I’m in the minority here (as a Giants fan) and I don’t like people shitting on my team, so I defend it when it deserves being defended. The same way when a bunch of red sox or yankees fans are shitting on the Os it probably pisses you off. Only I actually have a basis for saying the don’t suck :P
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Well I think you're pretty shitty
so we’re even
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
That has never been up for debate
I fear it never will.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
It's nearly impossible
to have O’s level futility in the NFL although the Skins are approaching the territory.
Hell, it's almost impossible to have it in the MLB
we’re just that special
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Feb 17, 2012 6:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes.
At least, sometimes more. And giving it up was not easy. It wasn’t a case of having physical withdraw symptoms, but more a question of willpower when it is so easy to slip because soda is delicious and convenient.
In that sense, posting on Facebook so that your friends tell you every day, “Don’t do it, man,” seems really reasonable to me.
I have an addictive personality. Giving up stuff that I’m addicted to is not fucking easy. If I were to reach out to friends for support in giving something up and was ridiculed, any friend that did so would very quickly find himself or herself no longer in my life.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Every day for about the last 3 decades, in my case
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
Depends on how much they used to drink.
It’s not the easiest thing, but it doesn’t warrant daily Facebook status updates.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Unless they were seriously into soda
it’s not that hard to give up. But still, there are far dumber things people do on facebook than look for support. Like comment on every minute of the Grammys. Now that shit is annoying.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
just wait until Valentines Day tomorrow
aka “Every single girl will bitch and moan about Valentines Day” Day
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I hate Valentine's Day
Yesterday my boyfriend said, “I guess since I live here now I’m gonna have to see you on Valentine’s Day.” And I said, “I promise not to call it anything other than Tuesday.”
by Stacey on Feb 13, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm going to wish everyone a "Happy Greeting Card Created Holiday Designed to Get You to Waste Money Day!"
by Holymittens on Feb 13, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
We should all be so fortunate to be in relationships like this.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh...this.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
speaking of relationships
how’d the big date go the other night
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I think it went pretty well.
We’ll see.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
I just don't think it's unreasonable to think
that if someone wants to do something for you to show how much he or she loves you, it should be done for that reason alone and not because of a date on a calendar.
This.
Do shit because you want to; don’t do shit because you feel obligated to.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't that what we do on Xmas though?
Everyone seems pretty ok with getting/giving presents for Xmas even though we could do it any other time during the year.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I kind of want to do presents with my (future) kids on the winter solstice.
Shortest day of the year… could use a little pick-me-up.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
That's my birthday.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Well people that do Valentines day probably do stuff to show they love each other on other days too
I’m not defending Valentines day, but I do think it’s odd that so many people get SO vocal about being against it.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Eh.
There’s infatuation, and then there’s love, and society enjoys conflating the two. The former often wears off eventually, while the latter is really a choice, not a feeling, and I imagine there are couples who benefit from having a day every year specifically devoted to deliberately remembering one’s significant other.
That said, who gives what to whom is definitely not equitable, as Stacey says below, and that isn’t good.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
You can say the same about a wedding anniversary.
It’s good to have a day that “forces” you to take time out to appreciate your relationship.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
well that's an individual date that means something to your relationship
not the same at all in my opinion
I try not to be SO vocal because a lot of my friends and family are into it, and I'm a live and let live kinda person
But I think maybe the reason some people are is because it’s turned into this HUGE thing with pressure on men to show their women how much they love them and they have to one-up themselves every year and it’s a huge production.
I agree with everyone on this
it is artificial and manufactured. Likewise it is still an excuse to do something fun. Not that it precludes doing fun stuff other times of the year.
I agree with Stacey. Just consider her to be speaking for me on this issue from now on.
Also, my wife and I have our third wedding anniversary on January 26th, so that’s what we focus on this time of year. Valentine’s Day typically gets washed out in Chinese New Year celebrations.
I’m very thankful that my wife isn’t a woman who demands material demonstrations of my love for her on random days.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
I think it became so huge that everyone went against it
and now there is a huge backlash against it.
Again, I don’t even do anything for the holiday. Just an observation.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
This
It’s an excuse to go out and do something fun. We had a short convo about it last week and gave the whole thing a “Fuck it why not?” W set a gift spending limit and picked a restaurant. If you’re under some sort of pressure to have some big Valentine’s Day so your lady can brag on FB about how much she got, then she’s got her priorities in the wrong order.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
the spending limit is the best
My friend: Yeah i got my wife a 2000 dollar bracelet
Me: Oh wow we set a 75 dollar limit I got mine an Alpaca Sweater and we are cooking dinner together
Friend: :-(
I hate the who gets flowers and who doesn’t contest. At my wife’s prior place of employment, her bitchy coworkers were saying “Oh, you’re engaged, of course he’ll send you flowers. He won’t do that when you’re married.” “Oh, you’re newlyweds. He won’t send them next year.” So, I had to.
I’m glad she doesn’t work there anymore.
I suppose it is
but mostly Christmas to me is a time when you put aside your regular schedule to show everyone you love that you want to spend time with them. My close group of friends is all over the east coast but at Christmas time we put a priority on being together, same with my family. And yeah there are presents, and they are awesome, but it’s just a different vibe altogether to me.
Yea....last year, I felt like my entire minifeed was something along the lines of:
A) I hate V-day or B) “I’m single and this is what I did which is so much better than having a date blah blah blah” even though the reason they were putting it there is so that people would see they were single.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Annoying Facebook posters, I like this game!
My current biggest gripe is passive aggressive posters. “Oh I guess it takes ____ to find out who your REAL friends are!” Something stupid like that. A few people I know who just got out of relationships are blowing my news feed up with this kind of crap.
Second biggest gripe is people posting about their kids five times a day. I’m sure your kids are cool but I don’t need to know that you’re taking them to the dentist this morning. One person I know is pregnant and actually has a baby tracking app where like every week it shows how big the baby is getting and tells you it’s growing fingernails or whatever else.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
that sounds like the worst. app. ever.
this is why we can’t have nice things
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
My gripe, even bigger than soda is political stuff.
If anyone has ever said “oh, wow I’ve never heard of this Ron Paul guy but this meme says he’s the right man for the job so I guess I should vote for him now! Ron Paul 2012!”
then I’ll eat my hat.
Ugh...I don't wanna know that its growing fingernails!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
My baby is the size of a peapod! His testicles are beginning to form!
That is the worst thing ever.
My brother is always posting these cryptic statuses that are designed to make people ask him what’s wrong. It drives me crazy. If you want to say something or bitch about something, just do it! Don’t be such a twit! I normally just ignore him but a few months ago he made his status, “I don’t want to talk about it.” And I commented, “You obviously DO want to talk about it. If you didn’t want to talk about it you wouldn’t have posted anything.” And he deleted my comment, the jerk.
I never post cryptic status updates
Unless you count “Man, that just didn’t make sense” as a cryptic update.
I assume those are always Orioles-related.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Not really
I post very little Facebook stuff about the Orioles. I mostly just make nonsensical jokes.
haha my friend follows every post about her kid with an !
Little jimmy is eating snacks then has a gastrointestinal doctor’s appointment!
Couldn't have put it any better
cryptic statuses that are designed to make people ask him what’s wrong
I try to hide comments of the most annoying of the annoying people. Best option on Facebook. But yeah, your bro probably isn’t an option for that.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Totally.
Little down arrow appears when you hover over one, and you can select stuff like “hide all” or “show only important”
It's a great way to defriend them without them knowing
It’s my go-to strategy with grads who friend me and then post crap like they’re still in HS at age 25.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
Yeah it's the best way to politely ignore someone you barely know.
You won’t see their daily updates but if they directly contact you (message, list you in an update, write on your wall), you will receive it.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
That app is obnoxious
some girl I barely knew in HS had that thing. “Your baby is the size of a peanut”. Thanks. I was wondering how big your baby got since yesterday.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'm glad that I keep my Facebook page tightly limited.
I don’t have people on there who I barely knew from whatever period of my life. Basically, if I don’t have a conversation with the person at least once every six months, they’re off my Facebook.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
I almost never go on
so if someone from HS friends me, I will usually accept, but I never delete people because I never go on. I just get an automatic status feed on my phone that I scroll through if I need to kill 2 minutes in line at the grocery store or whatever.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
speaking of the Grammy
i came across this gem of a website today and it is hilarious. although this is when duck is going to come off his porch and tell all the youngsters to get off his lawn
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/who-is-paul-mccartney
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
did you see the one about chris brown
a bunch of twitter skanks posted all over the place that they would welcome a beating from chris brown.
oooo gross.
Did not want to know that.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
You're not duck!
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
He's my padawan
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Get off my lawn.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Although, in their defense....
when was the last hit McCartney had? 1983 with Ebony & Ivory? So, if they’re 13 or 15 or 18, there’s a good chance their parents were still in HS the last time McCartney was musically relevant.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
Paul McCartney (and The Beatles) will be musically relevant when the sun goes supernova...
… and every day until then.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
It'll be a champagne supernova in the sky.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Are you saying the Beatles aren't musically relevant?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Here lies Gamecock24.
While rumors circulate that he continued haunting such locations as Camden Chat, Gamecock24 was officially declared dead on February 13, 2012.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
whatever you say, old man
like duck said upthread, most people in the key demographics that the music industry cares about could honestly give a crap about The Beatles any more
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Just like you were as a kid for failing to recognize the genius of George Gerswhin?
The Beatles last record came out 41 years ago. Why would a majority of 15-year-olds know them? That’s like asking a kid in 1968 to know who Bessie Smith was.
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According to Twitter, apparently not.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
did you see that link i posted above?
clearly a lot of kids don’t since most of them were saying “who is this Paul McCartney guy?” last night
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
were they saying "Who are The Beatles"?
There’s a gigantic difference between not knowing the band and not knowing one of the guys names.
OK, I'll be the guy to say it
Why in the world would a 15-year-old black kid today be expected to know who The Beatles are, let alone who was in them? “Kids today” includes a lot of kids who aren’t growing up in suburbia with parents who have Sgt. Peppers on shuffle on their iPods in the minivan.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
this is true
My folks had the Sgt. Peppers record that they played quite often.
Are we going to break it down by race?
I agree that minorities are less likely to know the beatles, but they’re also less likely to be able to name famous baseball players – does that mean baseball isn’t relevant?
You guys are making blanket statements about "kids today"
when it’s not exactly a monolithic group.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
wait.
you’re the one who’s saying they don’t. Based on a few twitter posts.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
True, true
There are a good # of kids today who don’t know them, and I would argue they don’t really have a reason to.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
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What was my reason to know them growing up in the 80s and 90s?
Because they are the most historically significant “rock” band ever. And their music works just as well today as it did in the 60s.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
The 80s was 30 years ago
Much closer to the time when they were active than now.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
Ok, well I was 8 when the 80's ended
these kids were teens, right? So mid 90s?
And my parents never played a single Beatles album while I was growing up
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
The Wonder Years ran from 1988 to 1993...
I wonder how many kids have seen that show and don’t know that the theme song was originally by The Beatles.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think I knew it was a Beatles song at the time
but I give anyone a pass for not listening to anything sang by Ringo
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
If the Wonder Years was made today, and kept the same time displacemetn
it would take place in 1992.
Damn, I am old.
Unrelated, The Wonder Years is the only TV show that’s ever made me cry.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Due South is incredible!
The first two seasons were some of the best TV ever made.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
I effing love the Wonder Years.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I look at The Wonder Years...
… and I look at the state of current sitcoms…
… and I cry.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Modern Family is great.
I watched Community, but who knows what’s happening with that. How I Met Your Mother keeps me interested.
That’s about it… and I’m not even sure how to classify The Wonder Years. The show was more about growing up than being a traditional sitcom… more like a 30 minute drama. Scrubs is somewhat of a comparison in the overall tone, but was far sillier.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't know that the theme song was from the beatles
but I did know that winnie cooper was awesome.
Was?
Good sir, she still is awesome.
Not to mention that she rights books encouraging girls to break through the gender stereotypes and study math.
McKellar studied mathematics at UCLA, graduating with highest honors (summa cum laude) in 1998.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Well i think especially after the show was off the air
It’s probably fair to stop calling her Winnie Cooper.
No way
Zach Morris is still Zach Morris.
Neil Patrick Harris is still Doogie Howser sometimes, but he’s made himself awesome enough that sometimes he’s Dr. Horrible.
Mark-Paul Gosselaar can earn his real name as soon as he has his own theorm
or at least a new show that lasts more than a season
woah woah woah
Franklin & Bash aka Lawyer Bros got renewed for a second season
not that i watch that piece of crap, just trying to stick up for Zach Morris
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Actually Raising the Bar got two seasons
and while i did enjoy it, it was still just Zach Morris playing a lawyer
bash?
or is he franklin?
either way, he’s outrageous!
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by j.q. higgins on Feb 13, 2012 3:39 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
you must not have seen the image
of her celebrating mathematics I posted before we started self policing.
My parents never listened to the beatles around me
I just started listening to all kinds of different stuff, eventually stumbled across the beatles and loved it. I used to think they were a joke.
i'm liking being on the same side of a discussion as duck for once
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Hahaha
This reminds me of back in high school, when I was the only kid with Comedy Central so I tape recorded South Park and passed it around during the week. And Ozzy was in an episode and I told one of the black kids about it and he was like “Who the fuck is Ozzy Osbourne?”
I'd be disappointed if race were an excuse to ignore a group that is one of the most influential artists of the 20th century.
I’m not black, but I still know who Ella Fitzgerald and Miles Davis are.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
A 15 year old who's never heard of the Beatles
is like a 15 year old who’s never heard of Bach, Mozart or Beethovan.
Of course it’s not reasonable for them to know every note from “Please, Please Me” to “Let It Be”, but they are a presence that everyone should at least be aware of.
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- Merrill Markoe
by sluggo 2.0 on Feb 13, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you're starting to talk about something completely different
i’m not talking about recognizing the name of a band, most kids probably have heard of The Beatles before. but knowing the name of a band and them being musically relevant (aka listening to their music, giving a shit about their music) are two very different things
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
it doesn't matter that a bunch of kids on the twitter last night didn't know who Paul McCartney was...
those kids aren’t the omes making music. Every single fucking person in that room last night writes/performs music that has been heavily influenced by Paul and the rest of the Beatles and almost all of them would say that themselves.
So, if they're married and/or non-sexual, they aren't influenced by him, is that it?
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
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by duck on Feb 13, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I actually know nothing about Wiz Khalifa
except “Black and Yellow” which is an abomination. I like this song a bit.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
I'm gonna snob it up right now
and mention that my parents forced me into a lifelong love of classical music. And I’m only 22, but I have been a big beatles fan since I was about 16, so other people that age have no excuse. No excuse I say!
I was born after John Lennon's murder.
I was still raised on The Beatles and so it shall be with my kids.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Well...
1) This is probably why the music industry sucks. There hasn’t been anything good made since 2000 and barely anything good from the 1990s.
2) The key demographics are apparently idiotic nincompoops.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
go back in time and find the shift
from when the majority of song credits were written by the bands / singer to when the majority of song credits were written by someone else.
There you will find the death of music.
Please clarify that you are talking about Grammy-worthy pop music
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
this
I dont generally care who wrote it. I am just saying that once studios begain manufacturing music rather than finding talented acts. which usually coincides with creating their own music that is where the quality goes down hill. That said I am not a music history major so many of you can out specify me on this.
Who cares who wrote it?
Some people are good at writing music and not as good at performing it. Would you rather hear subpar music just so it’s all done by the same people? I’d rather hear the best musical creation and if that means one person writes it and somebody else performs it, fine by me.
Yeah I don't mind that at all
Especially from the perspective of the song writer. If they’re talented enough to write great songs but not to sing it, that means no one should ever hear their work?
Right
Frank Sinatra didn’t write most of his music, for instance.
Singers writing their own songs is a fairly recent creation.
I wouldn't say that
I would say singers that only sing their own songs is a fairly recent notion…
So the 1970s never happened?
As much as I’d like to live in a world where James Taylor never existed, there were quite a few singer/songwriters in the ’70s.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
This weekend some people were talking about bands they like from the 60s/70s
And I said I liked Jim Croce and they all looked at me like I was crazy. Is that a bad choice?
Time in a Bottle...
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
if you like him
why would it be a bad choice?
yep
when considering music, the 1970s are moments ago…
Your mom was married to Neil Diamond?
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
by Zeke McGeek on Feb 13, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
OK, John Denver
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
singers have sung their own songs since the dawn of time
I mean singers that only sing their own songs is a modern era thing.
I guess I should have said
Singers being expected to write their own songs is a fairly recent creation.
Please stop speaking in harsh absolutes to try to get a rise out of everyone
For the ten thousandth time.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
only sith think in absolutes!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
When I feel strongly about something, I'll use strong language.
When I’m less passionate about a topic or am unsure, I will couch my language more.
You worry about your posts and I’ll worry about mine. Deal?
Deal.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
If I've told you once, I've told you a million times.
Stop exaggerating.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
touché
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Taylor Swift does. too
Hey, Ska8r Boi is a catchy tune.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
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lol
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'm waaaaay to old for them both
Man, I thought I spelled the name of the song right! And I was just one letter off!
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
Fixed...
That you typed this wrong shows you are too old forTaylor SwiftAnne Boleyn.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Damn it, duck.
Now this song is in my head.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Told you it was catchy.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
I am sure I haven't even heard it in at least 3 years.
And still it is summoned from the depths in its entirety purely by your mentioning it.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
this person on my FB feed
was saying that “Whitney Houston couldn’t even sing, what is wrong with people? She just howled.” Which, feel free to not like Whitney Houston’s music, it’s not many people first choice, but saying she couldn’t sing at all just makes you an idiot.
The Beatles
were #86 on the Billboard top artists for 2011 and have been in the Billboard 200 (top selling albums including digital and CD sales) almost every year, including 2011. Their last album came out in 1970. I’d say they’re still relevant.
http://www.billboard.com/#/artist/the-beatles/chart-history/4057
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
and who still actually buys music albums?
old people being nostalgic, not the 17 year old that is spending their paycheck from Dairy Queen
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
And here's the mod reminder to chill out
So chill out already, both of you.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
See? Was that so hard?
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
The tone in OT has turned nasty lately
So, I thought a well-timed reminder might be in order, and you two presented the first reasonable opportunity. :)
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
I asked "Are you saying the Beatles aren't musically relevant?"
not “Are you saying the Beatles aren’t musically relevant to 17 year olds who work at Dairy Queen?”
But if MP3 sales work better for you, the Beatles have had 11 Top 100 songs since 2010. The Beatles “1” album hit #1on the top digital album charts in 2011.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Statistics, man...
they’re ridiculous!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Feb 13, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah let's just stick to my personal opinion
and attack anybody that calls me out for stating my personal opinion as fact!
I buy physical copies of music
because it’s the best way (that I’m aware of) to find out the instrumentation, who played which instrument, if/which session musicians were used, etc. Liner notes, man. I’m a music trivia nerd.
"Roberts is unconscious!!!!" - Jim Hunter, after Brian Roberts hits his second HR of the night. 9/21/09
Not reliably.
And not always they way I want it. Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Lonesome_Sound
Yeah they’re there. But I want it for each song.
I never would have discovered people like David Bromberg or Albert Lee if liner notes weren’t around.
"Roberts is unconscious!!!!" - Jim Hunter, after Brian Roberts hits his second HR of the night. 9/21/09
I've noticed that some digital albums are coming with a downloadable linear notes.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
This makes me happy.
"Roberts is unconscious!!!!" - Jim Hunter, after Brian Roberts hits his second HR of the night. 9/21/09
I've been known to have that effect on people.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
record sales do not mean you are good. Not at all. Record sales are the RBIs of the music world.
by brek on Feb 13, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But, I must admit, I did use them last week as a data point to establish relevance
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Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
My words exactly
but he was questioning their commercial viability, not their talent
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
No one is talking about good, they're talking about relevant
RBI’s are probably a good measure of relevance in baseball, since its a partial measure of how often you’re involved in run-scoring plays
While everyone argues about music
I’ll point out that the sun isn’t massive enough to explode as a supernova.
What does this have to do with Jeremy Lin?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I haven't been subjected to Linsanity.
And I hope I never am, because I really don’t give a shit about basketball.
But you're asian!
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
You can't claim us as your token Asian friend.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
My best friend was born in Korea.
He is my token Asian friend.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
Jeremy Lin approves of this message.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
if you liked that
then you’ll like this year’s other version: “Who Is Bon Iver?”
http://who-is-bon-iver.tumblr.com/
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I have no idea who they are either
Paul McCartney, meanwhile, is one of the most famous people alive.
I used to drink 4-5 sodas a day
But I can easily go without. In fact, these days, I typically do not drink soda on a day and it took all of 0 effort to make the change (I only drink soda because the delivery method [a can] is so much more convenient than pouring a glass of juice).
by Holymittens on Feb 13, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
NPR reported this morning that a bunch of energy drinks don't have to disclose their caffeine mg,
because of some proprietary info. That’s crazy to me!
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
I think it depends on the person.
Some people just have addictive personalities. I gave up soda a few months ago and I didn’t have any specific relapses, it doesn’t mean it was easy, just because (as someone else commented on) that it’s fucking everywhere, and it’s really really easy to get. It’s like someone waving your favorite thing in front of you constantly and mocking you with “can’t have any!”
We all remember the episode of The Wire were Avon and his crew start slinging Pepsi on the corners.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
The other guys were selling Coca-cola, also known on the streets as "red caps"
by DaveAA on Feb 13, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But theres a small group of Haitians thats are importing
unsweetened iced tea and plan to take over Hatlanta in the coming weeks..
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Feb 13, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Rotoworld reports Duquette not interested in Manny!
Orioles executive vice president Dan Duquette said Friday that he doesn’t think Manny Ramirez is a fit.
Duquette has played the situation pretty coy until now and the O’s even sent scouts to watch Ramirez take batting practice, but he appears content to move forward with his current roster. All signs are pointing toward Oakland as Ramirez’s most likely landing spot, though they also reportedly have interest in Magglio Ordonez.
They also report the A’s are trying to acquire Koji and sign the Marlboro Man. Maybe they’ll be interested in Kevin Gregg!
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
I don't think Oakland will sign Manny if they are spending $36 MM on Cespedes.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
It's one of those things I have, but never use.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
I am in the exact same boat with G+.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Same here
It’s the same with most people I know, aside from a few people who are technophiles who believe Google does no wrong and constantly rail about how Facebook steals your personal data even though Google does the same thing and is simply better at it.
I have a Google+
I do not, however, use it.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Do you know how to post videos.....to facebook?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
I do
The reason why I use it is probably the same reason why most people don’t; hardly anyone uses it.
Even though it sounds like a quasi-hipster argument, I actually use it to keep in contact with my close friends (and no one else). Facebook is too big for me, and people go nuts over it. I’m still getting hate emails from people who are pissed that I deleted my profile over 6 months ago. But I don’t really care about the thoughts and actions of 150 people all crying at once.
like the others,
I have it but dont really use it. Occasionally I’ll post some shit on there for fun, but my feed is basically empty. Some of my friends who never embraced facebook have occasionally put some stuff up, which is cool. I really hope it catches on a little more cause facebook is kind of awful
at this point I pretty much just use it to share photos and set up events
ever since their re-design and the apps that take the status updating out of the hands of the users I have had no need for status updates. Great 82 of you have read the washingtonpost app today.
this weekend I basically went and deactivated every app that had access to my account
mypermissions.org
I think allowing apps to post for people will probably lead to the eventual downfall of FB
It makes sense from a short term business standpoint,
but if people stop using FB because it becomes overwhelmed with spam it doesn’t look as smart. It wouldn’t be the first time people abandoned a social network because it became too commercialized.
None of those other websites ever acheived the level of integration that facebook has
while people might find those apps annoying, the fact that so much web traffic is being driven through facebook will make it that much harder to quit
I use it for pictures and video
becuase you can add emails as friends and when you post something it will send them an email. So for all my family members who only know how to check email it’s a one stop shop for me.
I don’t use myface so I have no idea if they can do that. I just like that G+ doesn’t have 500 different things going on in the page.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
So Danny O'Brien is now officially transferring
less upset now that it didn’t kill the Diggs commitment
The Titanic is/was a real-life Titanic.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
There was supposed to be more to that comment. Don't know what happened.
My friend’s sister (about 17 y.o.) saw the movie and somehow missed the fact that is was based on a true story.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
HBO has replaying the shit out of Titanic lately.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I can't find them now
but there were a few “real-life Titanic” headlines after the Costa Concordia crash
by kba26 on Feb 13, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this was what I was referencing
kba wins the internet!
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
also, the real life titanic was supposed to be unsinkable
the orioles are more like flipped real estate, they get a new coat of paint and dry-wall every year but there is still that mold problem and cracking foundation to deal with.
I think the movie was called
“The Bus That Couldn’t Slow Down”
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
by Andrew_G on Feb 13, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this made me think of Eastbound and Down
“Her name is Rose, named after Miss Kate Winslett in the movie Titanitic”
“Y’all named your daughter after fucking Titantic? What’s his name, fucking Shrek?”
man i’m so excited for that show to come back on this weekend
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
After the season they just had, I'm more than happy to pull in a 34th ranked class.
Diggs is a game-changer if he helps attract more DMV talent
Testudo Times doesn't seem to think it will make that much of a difference
I didn’t think CJ Brown had much of an arm but I admittedly didn’t watch much of that shitshow last year. I have concerns about Diggs getting a decent deep pass though. I don’t want to see him turned into some sort of weird option runner.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Diggs can make his impact freshman year on kick returns alone
Brown’s not much of a passer, but someone like Diggs is good enough to not need a great pass to make some explosive plays. Some short passes to him in space could be turned into big plays pretty frequently.
Caleb Rowe.
Fuck CJ Brown.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Feb 13, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
No probably not
but I expect Brown to be on a short leash. Either way I expect Rowe to be starting in his second year. I have no idea how he wasn’t bumped to a 4 star in the final rankings. He tore it up in the Offense-Defense bowl and was easily the best QB in that game. He is going to do big things methinks.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Feb 13, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Where did you get this number from? Why only 5 years?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
are we going to miss Soler, after not signing a lot of top prospects in the recent years?
If we want to sign Soler, we have to pay more than the Cubs $30 millions, otherwise he’s going to sign with the Cubs or other organisation.
The Orioles have to pay around $45 or $50 millions to get him, in a six or seven year deal. Jorge Soler, Alfredo Despaigne and Yasiel Puig have better skills and Major League projection than Yoennis Céspedes.
Maybe it's because every single comment of his ends in an exclamation point!
/cannot be unseen!
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Random Mitch for Monday....
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
I saw this infomercial for this thing...
It said “You can water your hard-to-reach plants with this.” Who the fuck would make their plants hard-to-reach?!? It seems so very mean.
"I ate a lot of chicken fingers.
It was like 10 chicken hands. I want to try chicken thumbs. Nobody ever gets them. They must be accumulating."
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
Well, huh
If Mitch were alive, we’d have to tell him about that.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
Holy fuckin' shit.
I’m working through Season 5 of The Wire. I just had a “drop my jaw” moment. Might save the entire season.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
8. That's all I'm going to say since The Wire is above the spoiler statue of limitations.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
*statute
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
SPOILER
ok, not really, but I would hope to not have anything in my language be inadvertently taken as a clue.
My asshole co-worker gave away the events of this episode to several of us at work before the season even had started. He was basically bragging about a connection he had to the production of the show by giving away some information. Total douche-bag move.
I would.
If I were a lesser human being, I’d post plot summaries of “The Wire” here just to screw with y’all.
But I’m better than that.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't annoying when people just keep sniffing instead of blowing their nose?
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 3:37 PM EST reply actions
What if they can't? Ya ever think of that?
Not all of us carry handkerchief’s around, ya little hipster.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 13, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Man, first you people call me a hippie
now you call me a hipster.
If you keep this up I am going to pull a WW and threaten to leave.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
What do you mean, you people?
(and it’s pulling a JPop/Tez)
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
That's actually leaving
Threatening leaving is a WW.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
I categorically reject ever being associated with someone that would be referred to as "JPop" or really, "J-anything".
I fucking hate the letter J.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
My name starts with a J.
Apologize.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Asshole.
/priorrapport?
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, well T's are just really lame J's
J’s are fucking awesome, so to improve your lame name I will no refer to you as Jez or Jezcatilpoca.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You're just being ridiculous now.
Good day, sir.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Good day to you too, Jez.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Mine too. Real and handle.
It’s also not his fault. His name was Robert Paulson!
Just kidding. Johnny Pops.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah. There's too much optimism round these parts nowadays.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
loser mentality will be forever associated with him.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
His name is Puggles Hardy and nothing you can say will convince me otherwise.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
J. Jonah Jameson?
Jay Gibbons? Homer Jay Simpson? Michael J Fox? Dr J?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I hate you and everything you stand for...
… with the fire of 1,000 suns.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Don't be mad
I’m Just Joking around.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
"If 13 is an unlucky number
than so should the letter ‘B’ be, cause it looks like a scrunched together 13.
What’s your name?
BOB
Get the fuck away!"
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 13, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
yes.
call them out on it once and they wont do it anymore. My best friend at school used to do that all the time and i was amazed at the response. Then again, he was a douche so who knows what might happen if you did that…
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Feb 13, 2012 3:40 PM EST reply actions
reply fail.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Feb 13, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
thinking you might be responding to my story?
But yes… this wasn’t the first time this guy had done something like that and it wasn’t the last. That was easily the most egregious though. He’s just a douche. He traded a lifetime of rooting for the Orioles to being a Yankees fan around 1998.
well... we were never friends...
He is my friend’s dad, and also the guy who got me my job and was my mentor. So there is that. Also, the only other person in my office who could give two shits about baseball.
Sounds like he picked the right time to leave
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Haha, Cespedes signing with the A's.
The Marlins make no sense whatsoever. I know that Cespedes is a big risk, but $22M ($5.5M annually) less than Mark Buehrle? I don’t understand.
Edwin Jackson's flying into Washington. I hear they might sign him.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 13, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In other news, we might be going to war in Europe to stop Hitler.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Does it Godwin the thread, the entire off-topic Bird Droppings, or all of Camden Chat?
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
But then we run into the fact that Westie just Godwin'd Winnie Cooper.
I’m not comfortable with that.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 13, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1"
Not sure what I said was a comparison so much as a reference.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry.
K’s are cool by the way.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Best Fastballs (Four-Seam) of 2011:
Ryan Franklin and Dale Thayer had the highest strike rate, at 75.0% each, although both threw only slightly more than 100 fastballs. Koji Uehara was third, at 74.5%, while throwing over 500 fastballs.
…
Reliever Koji Uehara was the only other pitcher besides Papelbon to finish more than two standard deviations above the mean in both fastball swinging-strike rate (13.3%) and overall strike rate (74.5%). He finished the season with an excellent 1.89 wFA/C — actually, slightly better than Papelbon’s. Amazingly, Uehara has been able to maintain excellent fastball numbers despite below-average velocity, throwing his fastball at just 88.6 mph in 2011.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-best-pitches-of-2011-fastball/
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Does this include splitters?
IIRC, Koji’s usual out-pitch was a split-finger.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Well,
“split-finger fastball” is a misnomer. It’s not actually a fastball: it’s similar to a forkball in terms of grips and closer to a change-up in movement and velocity.
Yea...I know.
I dunno how the pitch F/X classifies it though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 13, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
fangraphs should differentiate between splitters and four seamers
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Sorry, didn't realize what you were asking there.
Pitch F/X classifies by movement and velocity, so I couldn’t see splitters being mixed in with fastballs. The author said that they’re going to do separate posts for four seamers, two seamers, cutters, sinkers and various offspeed pitches, so splitters should have their own article.
But on the other hand, Pitch F/X did think that Felix Hernandez threw four 91-mph curveballs in 2010.
As Andrew pointed out to me recently, though,
BIS re-classifies pitch types, and those are what FanGraphs uses. So FG’s data should be much more reliable than straight-from-games classifications.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Ugh...we've reached that time of year where its like 20 degrees in the morning you've gotta wear a heavy coat or freeze your ass off.
Then its like 50 when you leave so its hot as heck on the Metro.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Buster Olney tweet
Vladimir Guerrero has made it known to the Yankees that he wants their DH spot. IMO, Raul Ibanez still the frontrunner to sign w/NYY as DH.
He wants to announce his presence with authority.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
We all know Vlad would find a way to hit 40 HRs for the Yankees, because that's the kind of luck Orioles fans have.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 13, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
I just find it funny that the Yankees are furiously trying to trade Burnett so they can sign Vlad, Damon, or Ibanez.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
if I were a Yankee fan, I would want Damon,
I think he has gas left in the tank unlike Vlad or Ibanez.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
I would trade for Jesus Guzman and forget about Damon et al.
Guzman is stuck behind Alonso and he’s the perfect DH since his defensive skills suck.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Can anyone explain to me what the point of having a corporate charge card is
if i still have to pay the bill myself and request a reimbursement?
Good luck Pirates!
I look forward to being a fan of the team with the longest streak of consecutive losing seasons after 2012!
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
racking up the FF rewards
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Stat Corner
It’s number are different on some things from fangraphs, is Stat Corner a site I should trust?
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 9:45 PM EST reply actions
Never mind.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Did you guys know that Vlad had the second worse BB% out of all players with 500+ at-bats?
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 13, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yuniskey.
Betancourt.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 14, 2012 2:36 AM EST up reply actions
damnit, of course!
How I forgot about him I’ll never know. I used to tell my wife that he was going to swing at every pitch when we watched Mariners games together. Which happens a lot.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
I remember my dad always saying "first pitch double play" whenever he would come up with runners on base
It basically worked out that way every time.
Motherfucking ice-man, I'm the top gunner
Heater on blast, I'm the number one stunner
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 14, 2012 3:10 AM EST up reply actions
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