Orioles Fantasy Players to Watch
Are there any Orioles who will be valuable from a fantasy perspective in 2012? A few years ago Brian Roberts was a good choice, I used to like to stash Luke Scott on the bench so I could use him when he went on a home run binge, and last year J.J. Hardy was pretty good to me with his 30 home runs. But what about this year? It's hard to say, really.
Rotation:
Oh, well, um....yeah. The candidates for starting rotation going into Spring Training are Jake Arrieta, Brad Bergesen, Zach Britton, Wei-Yin Chen, Dana Eveland, Jason Hammel, Tommy Hunter, Brian Matusz, Alfredo Simon, Chris Tillman, and Tsuyoshi Wada. You'd have to be in a very, very deep league to want any of those guys on your team.
Bergesen and Simon will most likely end up in the bullpen, with Wada not far behind them. Tillman and Matusz are a mess and Eveland isn't any good. Hunter doesn't strike out enough batters and after Hammel's 2011 he's really more of a wait-and-see pitcher. Chen is an unknown coming over from Japan where his K rate has been dropping the last few seasons. Arrieta has been a disappointment and who knows what will happen with him coming off of his surgery. Also, he just walks too many and hasn't proven that he can pitch deep into games.
That leaves Britton, and honestly, Britton is no gem. At least, he isn't yet. Pitching for the Orioles won't get him many wins, and last season he walked too many batters, didn't strike out enough, and gave up too many home runs. But he's young and talented and could certainly have a good year. So if you absolutely must have one Oriole in your starting rotation, I'd go with Britton. But wait until the last few rounds of the draft.
EDIT: When I wrote this last night, none of us knew Britton was still injured. So look, just don't, under any circumstances, draft an Orioles starting pitcher. Unless you're in a wacky league where the point is to be the worst. In which case, take them all!
Bullpen:
The only real option is Jim Johnson. He will presumably start the year as the closer, and he's awesome. If he fails as closer or gets injured, Pedro Strop could pick up the slack. And while I fully expect Strop's walk rate to inflate from his time in Baltimore last year, I do love to watch that kid throw the heat.
Outfield:
The starting outfield will be Nolan Reimold, Adam Jones, and Nick Markakis. Given the general amount of talent in the outfield in the majors, none of these guys will be drafted early in any draft. Even when Markakis was playing better than he did last year, he has never been a fantasy stud. And Jones has some power going for him, but he just hasn't proven he can get on base enough. If you play in a league that requires a LF, CF, and RF and opposed to three OF, Jones could be a nice choice in CF since power from that position isn't as prevalent.
When I play fantasy baseball, I usually like to take someone that I like but who isn't really good enough to matter with my last pick. If you're playing in a league with a bunch of Orioles fans, Reimold probably won't last that long, but if not he could be a great late round pick. If he finally gets regular playing time who knows? OK, I'm a Reimold homer. I know it, I accept it.
Infield:
Here it gets a little interesting. Matt Wieters isn't a bad choice to draft at catcher. A ton of his value comes from defense and of course that doesn't matter in fantasy, but a catcher with 20 HR power and a decent OBP (that could easily go up in 2012) is worth having. So if it comes down to drafting a catcher and Brian McCann, Mike Napoli, and Carlos Santana are already taken, Wieters is a great choice. (I'm not sold on Alex Avila putting up those kind of numbers on the regular just yet)
Then there is J.J. Hardy, who hit 30 home runs this year and was generally awesome in every way (well, every way except on-base %). He'll be drafted early, especially in an O's fans league, but he's a very good choice at SS if you miss out on Jose Reyes and Troy Tulowitzki. His power is almost a lock to go down, but that could correspond in a jump in OBP. I'd put him in the second tier of SS along with Asdrubal Cabrera and Jhonny Peralta (although I wouldn't bet on Peralta this year to repeat).
The only other infielder on the Orioles worth considering is Mark Reynolds. He can be plugged in at 3B or 1B, and while it's a negative for Wieters, it's definitely a positive for Reynolds that defense doesn't count. He's good for 30 HR and a decent number of walks, but if you play in one of those leagues that deducts points for strikeouts, watch out. As with Hardy, I'd put him in the second tier at his position.
As it is in real life, the more Orioles you have on your fantasy team, the worse you are likely to be. But if you are able to snag some stars at other positions, there are definitely a few guys that could be a nice complement to them.
But seriously, don't draft any of their starting pitchers.
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Awesome post, thanks!
Fantasy baseball is all about getting value out of your draft picks, and as you state, no Orioles should be drafted early. I agree with all of your assessments but here’s a few O’s I particularly have my eye on in the late rounds of the draft this year.
If Jim Johnson is publicly given the closing role before the season starts, he will be my #1 Orioles target on draft day. He will most likely be in the lower half of closers taken in the majors, but his ERA and K rate will make him one of the best closers in the game if he sustains it.
Yahoo currently has Mark Reynolds ranked 12th among 3B, but he posted a composite ranking of #7 last year in a position that has suddenly dried up in the past three years. Emilio Bonafacio was #6 and really doesn’t count so you could even call Reynolds the 6th best 3B last year. I would definitely target him with a late round draft pick in lieu of overpaying for an Aramis Ramirez or Pablo Sandoval.
SS on the other hand, is surprisingly deep, and I’d rather have JJ Hardy with a late round pick than Asdrubal or Castro with a mid round pick.
As far as pitchers go, I will take a chance on Chen with one of my final two draft picks. His numbers in the Japanese league are just too pretty to ignore. I find that you have to jump on the surprise SP’s early and often to put together a good pitching staff, and your pitching stats live and die with your late round draft picks.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 15, 2012 10:30 AM EST reply actions
Agree on late round pitchers
It’s usually too easy to over pay for pitching. One injury can ruin your season. I used to just aim for average pitching, and focus on offense.
by dan o'hare on Feb 15, 2012 10:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I never overpay or overdraft top 5 SP's
I try to get 1-2 mid tier guys and a slew of low ERA options at the end of the draft. You can always count on a SD or Oakland guy to come out of nowhere.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 15, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I find roto SP salaries generally mirror real-world SP salaries
People don’t really get burned by aces; that $37 C.C. Sabathia or Roy Halladay. What killed teams in 2011 was paying $10 for guys like Derek Lowe and Ricky Nolasco hoping for a repeat of their 2010.
by AndrewTorrez on Feb 15, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Roto's a whole other animal
I differ to you. In head to head, I like to shoot for low ERA/WHIP guys, with the goal of winning those categories each week and going 50/50 on K’s and wins throughout the season.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 15, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Differ???
Fail. Trying to do too much at once.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 15, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I think it depends on the league
My friends in an AL only auction league are pretty high on the o’s o this year. And if I needed a one dollar starter I would take a flyer on matusz, or hunter. zach and jake would go for more than one dollar…
by dan o'hare on Feb 15, 2012 10:44 AM EST via mobile reply actions
the problem, even in AL-only
is that in a traditional 5×5 league (ERA, WHIP, Ks, W, SV),most of the Oriole SPs aren’t likely to help you in any of those five categories. You’d be better off with a setup guy who won’t kill your ERA and WHIP, might be comparable in Ks and Ws, and has saves upside. I’d rather spend a $1 flyer on Mike Adams (TEX) or Jake McGee (TB) than run the risk of Tommy Hunter killing your rate stats while not accumulating any Ks or wins.
If you have free slots for players on the DL or sent to the minors, I can see drafting Matusz for $1 and stashing him in the minors to see if he turns it around.
by AndrewTorrez on Feb 15, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
deep AL-only (or monitor the waiver wire)
My guess is that Matt Lindstrom is probably next in line for saves behind Jim Johnson, rather than Strop, even though Strop is pretty clearly the better pitcher.
I'm pretty sure that falls firmly into "who could blame you?" territory.
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by arlingtonOsFan on Feb 15, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone got the scoop on this?
Lets hold a CC fundraiser!
We could have a bake sale to raise the money ad then buy the team we all love! For just $325 Million!
ok… so maybe we could have, like, 3000 bake sales.
by Jokes & Burns on Feb 15, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the info.
I just joined a 10 year running keeper league and my roster was in shambles. literally, the roster is 30 limit and the old manager had 15 starting pitchers, the best of which was jair jurjins. And my best position players are JJ Hardy and Adam Jones. I shipped jones out for some top prospects (something DD couldn’t do).
So Stacy. I like how you repeat over and over to not take any pitchers. But i was between a rock and a hard place. It was either Free Agent Joe Saunders (ew) or Chen. So I took a risk on Chen. Hoping he rocks our faces off.
I actually like the idea of picking up Chen
I probably won’t draft him, but he might just be the guy I look for first in that free agent pool. Especially if his Spring Starts look like last time…
by Bird of Pray on Mar 9, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a CC-ers specific fantasy league?
Any slots available if so?
I’d be willing to run one if there was interest.
"Birdland is the belief that as great as today just was, tomorrow might be even better." -EME
by OriolesOptimist on Feb 16, 2012 4:01 PM EST reply actions
Just looked at Rotowire's top-100 pitchers list
No Orioles at all. Not even an honorable mention. Guts comes in at 79 for Colorado. I did a quick mental check, and I’m pretty sure the Orioles are the only team without anyone on the list — even the Pirates have a couple of guys (including Bedard at 85). Meanwhile, the Philly’s number five starter (Worley) is #63. The list isn’t the be-all and end-all or anything, but it does (via fantasy rankings) drive home just how grim the situation is this year.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Feb 16, 2012 10:01 PM EST reply actions
Britton comes in at #97 on Rotoworld.com
drafted him last night, 2nd to last round
"Birdland is the belief that as great as today just was, tomorrow might be even better." -EME
by OriolesOptimist on Feb 17, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
Guts being 79 is just dumb.
Is that overall? THAT HR/9 in Coors? I’d take Bedard as a Pirate anytime over Guts as a rockie. Hell, I’d draft Wada over Guthrie in Colorado..
by Bird of Pray on Mar 9, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions

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