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Thursday Bird Droppings

My computer has been a jerk this morning, so here are your super quick Bird Droppings since I'm late for work.

Amber Theoharis: Orioles' upside a major storyline in 2012
Amber's got spring training fever.

Orioles' Wieters: Matusz looks like 2010 version - baltimoresun.com
Matt Wieters has spoken.

School of Roch: Britton, Bundy and catching update
Time to swoon over Dylan Bundy.

2012 Orioles Projections: Wieters, Davis, Andino, Hardy, Reynolds, Betemit | Camden Crazies
I don't mind that Wieters projection.

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Twig is technically a shape

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes,

it is considered a shaped, haven’t you twigged to that yet?

90 feet. 4 Times. Perfection.

by Skipper_32 on Feb 23, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

*shape

90 feet. 4 Times. Perfection.

by Skipper_32 on Feb 23, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Hah, 105.7 interview?

You’ll all be happy to know that his bff Chris Tillman has put on 20 pounds of muscle as well.

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Break out the champagne natty boh!

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1!

90 feet. 4 Times. Perfection.

by Skipper_32 on Feb 23, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

i wish i had spring fever.

I was going through some projections for a future post and it looks like a solid upper 60 win season. It really should not be much of a surprise. I still have some work to do on the model…but eh I don’t think I did anything wrong.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 8:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

It is more or less using projections of performance and guess at playing time to generate a talent level. Then using those levels to determine win probability based on schedule.

As baseball is a rather unpredictable game in whole…add or subtract 10 wins roughly.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 9:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I gave him benefits of the doubt…a 700ops…I think the wOBA was around .310.

He was worth -0.4 WAR.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 9:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Just curious what you base it on.

I could never figure out what numbers translate from the minors.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 9:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I use an average of established projection models (eg, Marcel, ZIPs).

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 9:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Gotcha.

That’s kinda what I do, but I find it works better to just add them together and never divide. Unless it is a negative number. Then I just drop the minus sign.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 10:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I could tell

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

if he finishes the season with a positive WAR

i’d consider that a surprise

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

you're crazy

Townsend hasn’t even seen Bowie yet. He’s not jumping past Nick Johnson and Joe Mahoney to suck it up in Baltimore this year.

…okay, I want to amend that statement to exclude Mr. Glass.

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll admit, I'm catching it

But then I rarely look at the numbers, Heck I think if we get to 75 and can at least keep the games we lose close and see some improvement from our pitching staff, then we’ll be in a good position for next year.

It’s the time for optimism before April and May come to dash all hopes. But for these next few weeks, we can at least pretend that something good might happen this year.

Of course, as optimistic as I feel now, no way this group of scrubs gets to 90 wins, that’s just delusional.

by Steven_G on Feb 23, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

FUNNY? Scrubs?

that’d delusional!

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 10:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

YOU'RE delusional

Scrubs was amazing.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

not this again...

Some people thought scrubs was great, some people thought it was only good for a couple of seasons. Let’s move on.

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Feb 23, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

nonsense

when someone speaks ill of “Scrubs”, it must always be defended

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

haha no I'm with you, I love scrubs

But with that long argument a while back, I don’t know if i can rehash my arguments once again

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Feb 23, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

You know what needs to be said as well?

It’s a travesty that John C. McGinley was never nominated for an Emmy.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

this a thousand times

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You know what I like?

How adam jones is always blowing bubbles. I think it adds to his performance.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 10:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not a chance.

Mark Reynolds needs to stop chewing too! He’s setting a bad example for the kids.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea.

Every ballplayer does that.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

So by that line of reasoning

If every ballplayer smoked…

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 10:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That's not my reasoning.

Every ballpayer adjusts their cup because that thing never stays in the right spot! its required if you want your jewels protected.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm

I’m trying to be a smart ass today, but apparently it’s coming out all serious. I must have forgotten to streach.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 10:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No, but you need to be reminded every once in a while

and seeing as no one here ever does that, I’ve taken it upon myself. I mean, 90 wins by the O’s is one thing, but Scrubs not being funny? That’s a whole different level right there.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Scrubs is,and always will be amazing!

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Feb 23, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Let me put it this way

If I watched a full season of scrubs I might laugh 68 times. If scrubs is lucky.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 10:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So 3+ laughs an episode (22 episode seasons)

average episode is 23 minutes (excluding commercials), so that’s one laugh every 7.5 minutes or so. Not too shabby for someone that doesn’t like the show.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

No way we get worse

I just don’t see how we can go anywhere but up from last year. Our pitching will more than likely be better, and AJ Matt and reimold should only get better. I’m not saying we get 10 wins better, but 75 doesn’t seem out of line. The only team that got better in the AL east was the Yankees, but they also got older on the other side

by mdterps0325 on Feb 23, 2012 10:31 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Rays look better to me

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I was just writing this!

Matt Moore alone makes that team a lot better.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus,

Desmond Jennings is a year older, and they added Luke and Carlos Pena to an offense that struggled to score at times last season.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

The rays are good. The yankees suck. The red sox won’t win more than 89 games. Not sure why the jays didn’t do more in the offseason. I thought they could have been good with some additions…

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 10:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

their GM's assistant was too busy scouting us

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I've been thinking about the yankees alot

And I’ve come to the conclusion that the yankees suck.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 10:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Something tells me the Yanks might be okay.

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

no

this is the year it all comes tumblin’ down

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

(crosses fingers for luck)

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

They signed Russel freakin Branyan

and he will probably go on to mash 30+ HRs this year for them.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Christ

They are going to set the record for homers this year.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

oh come on

Career year at 36 for him? Okay.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, well, explain to me how they revived the bloated corpse of Bartolo Colon last year

or Freddy Garcia
or Andrew Jones
or …..

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Raul Ibanez

2012 AL MVP Candidate and RF Gold Glover.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Swish is still entrenched in RF, no?

But Ibanez and Branyan will duke it out for that DH job, and whomever gets the at bats will likely put up a pretty good to great offense year with that RF porch.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

From what i’ve read, i think they’re going to platoon the DH spot with Andruw Jones and Ibanez or Branyan.

I was obviously be sarcastic with my previous statement.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

ahhh, I missed the sarcasm font. My bad.

But, yeah, that seems to be the plan for them. And it will likely pay dividends, because they are the minions of ’ole Beelzebub himself.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Andrew Jones was better the year before with the White Sox

And he certainly didn’t have anything close to a career year.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Well with that short porch in right

who knows what can happen. And all these lefties they are getting will see a ton of fastballs.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The greater the pride the bigger the fall.

Hey, we can dream right? Same dream I have where the Orioles don’t have to beat them in the playoffs, because they (the MFYs) never go in the first place, just before I realize I’m back in high school for my final exams but haven’t actually gone to class for 10 years… dreams are weird.

by Steven_G on Feb 23, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

I think the O’s shittiness has beaten those kinds of dreams out of me.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

sure

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I have BoSox and Yanks as 95 win teams. I think people forget how stacked these teams are.

I think the Rays are depending on a lot of breakout.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 2:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Boston especially

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone.

Go to a Baltimore area chick fil a this morning before 10 am and say “the early bird gets the chicken” for a free breakfast item. Heard it on pandora. That is all.

by DaveAA on Feb 23, 2012 8:45 AM EST reply actions  

They have a "Daddy/Daughter Date" thing on March 5.

Signed up me & the girl child.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I love chick fil a. Everyone got mad at them for whatever that religion stuff was

but they have awesome promotions, free refills, and chicken that somebody sold their soul to Satan for. I’ll take that over just about any other fast food option any day.

by DaveAA on Feb 23, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I <3 Chick Fil A

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

tea party ties, too...

I love their sangwiches, though.

by j.q. higgins on Feb 23, 2012 8:53 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I worked for CFA

and out of all the menial hs/college jobs I had, it was far and away the best working environment. I reward them for it over and over again.

Birdland and Buck both start with B... coincidence? I think not.

by Birdland in NC on Feb 23, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I've always heard they're good to their employees

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

My father knows the family pretty well.

He had his 5th or so BDay party at their flagship restaurant Dwarf House in the 50s. At that time, they focused on hamburgers.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 9:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Dwarf house...

small house or a house.in which small people reside?

by j.q. higgins on Feb 23, 2012 9:09 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I think it was a play ok Snow White. It is still there in Atlanta and they still sell hamburgers.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 9:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

ATLLLLL

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I boycotted Chick Fil-A for life when they lied to me.

Claiming they have the original chicken sandwich? My ass.
Someone put chicken and bread together before they came along.

Knowing that money spent their goes towards homophobia and religious discrimination really was just gravy.

Also their food is terrible. I don’t understand how anyone could like it.

Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.

by arlingtonOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

FLAGGED for being a hater

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm good with politically-based boycotts

I just think their food is incredible.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Let's get the apropos Mitch joke out of the way early today

I think pickles are cucumbers that sold out. They sold their soul to the Devil, and Devil is dill

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't have one anywhere close to me

I must try it sometime.

I actually like at least one of the boss’ reasons. He said that he doesn’t work Sundays, so why should he make his people go to work, or something to that effect. Nice.

"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."

- Merrill Markoe

by sluggo 2.0 on Feb 23, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup

If I went out of my way to avoid supporting anyone who did something I disagreed with, I would never buy anything.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, I boycotted Levi's in the past for political reasons

but there’s no way Chik-Fil-A’s food ain’t awesome.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

chic-fil-a sauce is the tits.

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Feb 23, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Tits are the chick-fil-a sauce

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Tits are the egg mcmuffins of body parts.

"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."

by tflach2 on Feb 23, 2012 1:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I am wrong.

Can’t leave work though. Thanks for info.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

West Manchester Mall’s the only one I can think of. Too far for me to make during lunch.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea, I forgot about that one.

Haven’t been in the West Man for a long time.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Has anyone been to was man recently?

haha I used to go for movies when I lived on that side but Frank Theatres opened is much better. The 21 and up movie theatre rocks.

by Benhem612 on Feb 23, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll go in there MAYBE to movies or to gamestop quick.

thats only b/c franks theater is 30 minutes from where i live.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I have

But it’s starting to lose a lot of stores, a new one opened that sells a lot of old used games. They had an entire wall of old NES games.

But I definitely enjoy going to Franks and getting a beer with my movie.

by Steven_G on Feb 23, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, I might have to check the NES selection out.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

The Kohls was a nice add over there

The beer with the movie is almost as awesome as the fact that for an extra doller you don’t have a half empty theatre that is usually pretty quiet.

by Benhem612 on Feb 23, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I go to movies there sometimes. It’s a little closer than Frank from where I am (near Manchester), but the Galleria is a little closer than West Man and has the same stores.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Other one in York

is off the Shrewsbury exit of I-83.

by pabirdfan on Feb 23, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice YMCA there

and ummmmmm that’s about it

by PhilR8 on Feb 23, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I used to play hockey there

before it was a YMCA. I’ve been there maybe twice since it became a YMCA.

by Steven_G on Feb 23, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea

I have used that exit maybe 3x my entire life.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I've never seen the big deal with Cracker Barrell

I’ve been several times with my family and the food is all abysmally bland.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

agree

it’s cheap, though

by PhilR8 on Feb 23, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I like their breakfast

Much better than other chains I’ve been to. Never really cared for their lunch or dinner.

by Steven_G on Feb 23, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

this

I generally hate chain places but Cracker Barrel does a huge breakfast for about 3 dollars that can repair the previous nights damage. Their other food is horrible. None around here though, and I think I haven’t been to one in about 3 years…

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Nicely played

http://www.medjh.com/triang/crackerbarrel.jpg

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOVE their chicken and dumplings

Y’all are high.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Ugh. I HATE their chicken and dumplings

I’ve ordered it twice and it has the same flavor as cardboard. And their corn is terrible too; it’s rubbery and tasteless.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Another place not near where I live

I’m guessing the dumplings are flat, yes?

"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."

- Merrill Markoe

by sluggo 2.0 on Feb 23, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

As God intended, yes.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

"middle of duckwhere"

That, my friend, is rec worthy

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Stupid double-post

CC crapping the bed for anyone else today?

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

happened to me earlier

I just hope I get a double-rec too!

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Me.

refuses to post my words of wisdom.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Dylan Bundy
“it’s the same stuff as high school, basically, except it’s a faster-paced game and a lot bigger people.”

This quote made me laugh. You mean to say Mark Reynolds is bigger than the 15 year old sophomores Dylan was owning last year? Nooo.

But in all seriousness, really impressed with his quotes and desire to learn given he is a 19 year old kid with tons of hype and attention on him. I remember hearing stories about why Bryce Harper was in camp and the minors last year and people said he just kind of acted like a jerk, like he was too good to be there. Glad to see Bundy isn’t coming off that way in his 1st dose with the club.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

*when Bryce Harper was in camp

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Yo dude

what happened to you and your ridiculous claims the other day? No response to the fact that you were completely wrong about how the 9/11 hijackers go into the US?

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Proposition

Politics, like The Wire spoilers, need their own fanposts. Thoughts from all?

I think it’s in poor taste to bring this up here instead of where it was originally discussed. Are you trying to drive off all dissenting opinions?

by PhilR8 on Feb 23, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I did bring it up where it was originally posted.

I was pissed he didn’t own up to the bullshit he was spouting.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

And

I sort of figured he was gone for good given that he’s not an O’s fan, but when I saw him here I figured I’d take the opportunity to ask about it.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

On one hand, i don't think its necessary to bring it up again

on the other, theres a difference between a difference of opinion and something thats just factually not true.

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'll concede that happily

But are we really going to ambush people with past political discussions if they’re talking about baseball? Is this something that the majority approves of? If so, I’ll concede it as well.

by PhilR8 on Feb 23, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

How's it an ambush? He said something and got called on it

and never responded and now is just posting like normal. That’s at least as much of a foul as “ambushing” him about it.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you could have maybe more subtly referred him back to the other thread

Its not a conversation that needs to be carried on in multiple places

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Subtlety is not really my thing.

But just so I’m clear, the beef is with me repeating his ludicrous statement?

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

the beef is that you dind't get the satisfaction you craved in a previous conversation

so you brought it up unsolicited in another thread to continue the argument. And I’m just putting feelers out for what the larger community deems is acceptable.

by PhilR8 on Feb 23, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Let me know how that works out.

If something’s added to the community guidelines I’ll abide by them.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

See my post a bit below.

This will fall under Don’t Piss Off The Mods from here on out. Don’t do it again.

"It's not over yet..." - Jim Palmer, 9/28/11 || Twitter

by Eat More Esskay on Feb 23, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

gotta agree with you Phil

that comment came out of left field, after Luke Scott tore his shoulder going after it

by mdterps0325 on Feb 23, 2012 10:35 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I also agree with this

And usually I’m on O’sFan21’s side on things.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Here, I'm just going to throw this out there.

Dragging the previous day’s political argument into the next day’s Bird Droppings is kind of a dick thing to do.

It’s one thing if you started an unrelated discussion and ended up fighting with the same person again (which event would probably still give Stacey a headache, but at least it’s more “normal”). In this instance, you have gone out of your way to provoke a person with a political comment when they were here posting about baseball.

That’s not cool. Hold whatever opinion you like about him for not acceptably answering your questions about his beliefs a previous day. Whatever. But don’t go out of your way to pick a fight again the next day.

"It's not over yet..." - Jim Palmer, 9/28/11 || Twitter

by Eat More Esskay on Feb 23, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Fair enough

but just to be clear we are not talking about opinions or beliefs here – we’re talking about facts.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't care what you think you're talking about.

Philsnation was talking about Dylan Bundy and Bryce Harper. If you want to ignore him or never respond to him again, fine, whatever. If he makes a political comment you don’t like, then the cycle of fully right-indented reply strings can start anew provided the involved parties don’t cross the line where it veers from discussion into personal attacks.

Unrelated posts are not the place to jump on somebody. Especially not when he’s actually on-topic for the blog, but your action would have been just as uncool if he was on here talking about his dog or something.

"It's not over yet..." - Jim Palmer, 9/28/11 || Twitter

by Eat More Esskay on Feb 23, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

As I said fair enough

All I was responding to was your insinuation that this was about opinions or beliefs which it wasn’t.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotta put my 2 cents in......

I come here for baseball talk. I get enough politics on other blogs. Don’t know who/what started the political talk the other day, but as far as I’m concerned, take it somewhere else. It’s old news and not baseball. I’ve certainly got my own well-defined political views, but I come here to talk O’s. How ’bout we keep it at that?

by Sierra Matt on Feb 23, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

This is an open-thread dude.

There’s going to be all kinds of non-baseball talk all the time. In game threads and analysis posts it’s baseball only for the most part, but not in the OT.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

An offseason OT no less.

Radical Environmental Islamic Global Warmist

by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm definitely hitting my quota

That’s what my FB page is for!

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably dumb question but...

Any way to lurk there without letting Zuckerberg how many times I get up at night to pee?

"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."

- Merrill Markoe

by sluggo 2.0 on Feb 23, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

That's KNOW how many times...

"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."

- Merrill Markoe

by sluggo 2.0 on Feb 23, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

And

there’s a difference between a dissenting opinion and just making shit up. As Santorum tried to say to Romney last night – you’re entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I would love this, personally.

As much as fantasy and football talk are annoying to have to “z” through, I’d much rather have them in the open threads than politics, and they get their own fanposts.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Feb 23, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Everyone has something they don't care to hear about

Food, politics, football, fantasy sports, etc. We can’t start saying this is okay but not that, in my opinion.

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

I went a bit too far for advocating the separate fanposts. I think things have been resolved to everyone’s satisfaction already.

by PhilR8 on Feb 23, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

In all honest, I'm not all that in love with this whole "baseball" thing

Can we move all talk of it to a FanPost so we can get on with the important topics here like Risk?

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

bahahahaha

this is a rec. as is the one above.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, we already do.

We have plenty of things which are out-of-bounds by the community guidelines, and lots of topics are moved into FanPosts when they simply threaten to consume Open Threads. But politics are far more contentious than the topics we already split off, the arguments that inevitably result drive the mods crazy, and said arguments only start in the first place because someone gets tired of having views to which they are sympathetic misrepresented or mocked.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Feb 23, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

And this is where this is an unrelated issue
arguments only start in the first place because someone gets tired of having views to which they are sympathetic misrepresented or mocked.

Views are one thing – facts are another.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure.

I’m talking about in general, not this particular incident.

"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Feb 23, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude, get over yourself

This Just In to Action News 11 – People argue over what’s considered a fact, too.

Listen to EME already.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I already did listen to EME.

Did he say that I’m no longer allowed to respond to anything else in this thread? Is nobody allowed to respond to anything else in this thread? And if so, just fucking delete the thread if you want to.

And when people argue over what’s considered a fact, somebody is wrong.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I went home.

It was after 5 and my 8 hours in the cube were up.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't see the point in this...

Why should i have to explain to you when and where i use my computer and what i use it for?

Yes, i was not on CC yesterday. And yes, I am on it today.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

Fair enough. Hopefully you at least won’t repeat that crock of shit to anybody else going forward.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I learned already.

I shall stick strickly to baseball and grilled cheese from now on.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Although.

I do wish people would understand that i am an O’s fan. I’ve lived in baltimore and the surrounding area my whole life. My dad is from philly, so i like philadelphia teams as well. read my bio or something before saying i’m not a fan.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

The O's aren't listed among your teams, but I see they are 1b...

a fan of

Philadelphia Phillies
Philadelphia Eagles
Maryland Terrapins
Bubba Watson, Rickie Fowler
US Men’s National Team
Arsenal
Philadelphia Union
Philadelphia Flyers

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

thats fine.

you’re entitled to your opinion, but don’t throw claims out against my fanhood when you don’t even know me, please.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

i dont want to argue anything.

i come here to talk about things. got out of hand the other day, and i’m sorry for that.

i just don’t like when my dedication to the o’s is questioned…

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

whatever you say, man.

i’m tired of talking about it.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

When he goes on like this, it means he likes you

Ever been to a schoolyard where a boy tugs on pigtails? There ya go.

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

When i was in kindergarten

my school had this play ground, and we were playing tag and the girl i “liked” was on the playground and the guy who was it was right behind her. so the hero in me pushed her off and got tagged. she hit her head and had to go to the nurse, but she didn’t become it!

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Bubba Watson can mash!

I love his driver with the pink shaft in it.

Can I say “shaft” on CC?

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

He's pretty much the man...

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

tomato and grilled cheese. words cannot do justice.

Wada Wada Wada.
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by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Me, I like

grilled cheese with turkey slices layered in.

90 feet. 4 Times. Perfection.

by Skipper_32 on Feb 23, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't that just make it a turkey sandwich?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

or...

a monte cristo?

by j.q. higgins on Feb 23, 2012 10:45 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

As soon as you add meat, it's no longer a grilled cheese

Sandwiches are defined in the following order:

1) Their meat
2) Their cheese
3) Their other toppings
4) Condiments

You don’t order a cheese sandwich with a burger on it. You order a cheeseburger.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

why does peanut butter always precede jelly?

why can’t it be a jelly and peanut butter sandwich?

by PhilR8 on Feb 23, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Peanuts are high in protein

So the peanut butter is the defacto meat.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't have a newsletter

But I do have a “coming soon” website.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

It is peanut butter first

because the peanut butter is the glue of the sandwhich. If the ratio is off it all falls apart.

by Benhem612 on Feb 23, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it depends on the ratio

A slice of ham on a grilled cheese still leaves cheese as the dominant component, With a cheeseburger, the burger is clearly the defining part. The line is somewhere in between.

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

huh...

their bread?

by j.q. higgins on Feb 23, 2012 10:50 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Oops, forgot about that

Put the bread in between “other toppings” and “condiments”. You order, say, a ham and turkey on rye.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I defer

to your superior sandwich knowledge.

90 feet. 4 Times. Perfection.

by Skipper_32 on Feb 23, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

the tomato adds way too much moisture

It’d would need to partially cooked down or dehydrated in some way before adding it to a grilled cheese

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Sundried, bro.

Amazing with grilled cheese.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Different flavor entirely though

I was thinking more like oil poached tomatoes, just to drive off some moisture

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

i just slice them and ut them on a paper towel for 15 minutes

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

damn, Ofan21 is a pitbull.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

this

well, i played twice in college and was awful at it so i never really had interest in playing again

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I've played a bunch of times

was awful at it every time. Worse each time, I believe. So I just drank a lot and drove the golf cart. Which is loads of fun.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

This.

Though i am not bad at golf , i was on my HS team, everyone has those days where nothing goes right. so you stick to the beer and just enjoy the weather and company.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like you were doing it right
I just drank a lot and drove the golf cart.

That’s the most important part. Actually hitting the ball is just whatever.

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I refer you

to George Carlin’s take on golf, found on his special “Jammin’ in New York”

90 feet. 4 Times. Perfection.

by Skipper_32 on Feb 23, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I've golfed once

It was helluva fun, even though it was in an overcast, cold, slightly rainy January in Massanutten, VA. I was predictably terrible and shot the maximum on every hole. I did hit a few awesome drives off the tee, though, but none as good as one my brother hit after we finished and we purposefully were hitting balls into the water hazard. He crushed one and had by far the best shot of the day of all of us.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Me!

I am definitely going to play next week if it stays nice.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Me.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I love golf, but I am so bad that I really shouldn’t even be allowed on a real course.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Once when the only tee time we could get was ridiculously early (at least for 17-year-old me)

I missed the ball completely on the 1st hole. The club, however, went about 25 yards, as i was still too asleep to hold on to it securely.

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

If you're not getting the distance you want on your tee shots,

A lot of the better professionals are taking a running start.

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

That one dude who wears the Boston Bruins jersey when he plays. He hits the ball, like, 400 yards.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Now that is as bad as it could get.

I assume you counted that as your first stroke?

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I usually hit an iron off of the first tee.

I’m semi-better with the irons instead of the driver.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

The last time I played, I used the driver maybe once.

Mostly 3 iron off of the tee.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I did that.

When I was on my HS team, i could not hit my driver straight to save my life, it sliced a mile to the right. I once hit Edwin Mulatalo’s house (he, and many other Ravens, lived on the course we played). Thats when i decided to stick the the irons.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I've never been able to hit a driver well

until a couple years ago, when my wife bought me a newer model (nothing fancy, a $100 Walter Hagen), and I suddenly can hit the snot out of it, with a slight, predictable, consistent fade on every shot. The rest of my clubs still suck, but the driver I can hit now.

So, maybe technology has made them easier to hit. Might be worth a test drive, if you have an older one.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Feb 23, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Cmopletely true

1st day of golf tryouts my freshman year. My friend hit the ball between his legs! Still have no idea how that could happen.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't really remember

I think we all just pretended it didn’t happen

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I've accidentally tossed clubs before

Never that big of a deal on the course, but on the driving range is pretty embarrassing.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm dying
but on the driving range is pretty embarrassing.

You can’t make this stuff up!

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that's only happened 2 or 3 times

but once was real bad where the range was packed and I had to get everybody’s attention so I could run out and grab my club. I considered just leaving it there or waiting until the place closed.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I've had to do that before

because my clubhead broke off. Watching ppl who suck at golf try to play golf is very entertaining.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I have one friend who is the funniest I've ever seen.

He’s really really terrible, which is fine and would be totally cool if he was just relaxed, but he absolutely freaks the fuck out constantly. I’ve seen him attack trees, rip out distance markers and throw them, chuck his clubs, toss flags, etc. It’s really pretty hilarious unless strangers are around and then it’s embarrassing.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

he needs to stay off the course.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know if anybody's ever played Hains Point in DC

it’s this absolutely terrible course in the city, but it’s cheap as hell and you can always get on. There’s a hole where the fairway runs parallel with a street separated by a fence and then about 50 yards of grass. Then on the other side of the street there’s another 50-70 yards of grass and then some 2-3 story buildings. He sliced about 8 consecutive drives over the street and 3-4 of them went onto the roof of the building. That was the angriest I ever saw him and there were all these people behind us watching. lol

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Christ...

Why does he still play? Better yet, why doesn’t he get lessons so he doesn’t suck sooo much?

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

fun course...

I play there and rock creek a few times a year

by j.q. higgins on Feb 23, 2012 10:52 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

It is pretty fun

as long as you’re not expecting anything.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I totally McEnroe sports equipment

I used to keep two tennis rackets and only use my nice one for official matches, since i knew i’d slam it into stuff and break it if used it every day in practice.

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Same dude

during a FALL baseball game (basically scrimmages) struck out and tried to throw his bat against the fence, but it stuck in his hand a little bit and it went over the fence and hit his mom in the knee up in the stands.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you lying?

This guy screams workplace violence candidate.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

100% true

I’m trying to think of other funny shit he’s done. Once during a varsity high school basketball game with a packed gym, he went to the ground going after a loose ball and when he went to get up he found a skittle on the sideline and ate it and everybody saw.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

People break clubheads off all the time at the range

My friend did it in college and made everyone stop so he could go out and get it. While he was walking out there, the other guy we were with took one punch shot and hit him square in the ass.

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh get outta here with that shit

I don’t need to be lectured over a two sentence story that happened 5 years ago.

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

No lecture. Didn't mean it as serious as it looks.

I typed it while laughing. But I have watched a lot of ppl get hammered by errant shots.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

We cool

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

A friend and his brother were demoing some clubs at one of those stores that has a 50 foot driving area where you hit into nets. The younger brother was fucking with the older brother and jumping out into the range and making faces. He went out about 30 feet and was dancing around saying you can’t hit me. Older brother drilled him right in the forehead with a drive.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I got a story for you.

At golf practice one day my friend borrowed another person’s putter to try out for 9 holes. He putted horribly and on the 8th hole missed a 2 footer.

The look on his face was priceless but he snapped the putter in half, threw it into the creek behind the green and left.

I guess the person never asked for their putter back…

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

hahahah.

Thats awesome.

One of the guys on my team in HS broke his putter on the 1st hole during a match and had to putt the resst of the match with his 2 iron. Yet he still show a 39 and won. he was really good…

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

haha.

I could never break my own clubs. I just throw them.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

the funny thing is, he didn’t TRY to break it. i think it was his dads or something, just an old putter he used for luck, he had it behind his neck and it just snapped in half.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Well that's just terrible luck then.

I played with a guy who was using old clubs and just by hitting the ball he broke 3 of them.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

you can’t lend people clubs unless you’re highly confident in their patience.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I usually take a couple “practice swings”. In high school, the first time I went out, I shot a 174. I think the 120s are my best, but I stopped keeping score. It’s been like 3 years since I last golfed and a decade since I played somewhat regularly.

My friends and I used to mostly play at Yorktowne, which doesn’t exist anymore, or Little Creek, which isn’t as fun since there’s no carts.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

10 on every hole is 180..my 174 was probably actually some generous scorekeeping.

I’ve parred one hole in my entire life, I’m usually 2 or 3 over par on every hole.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

No, that's my average score.

Seriously, when I played 2-3 times a year a decade ago, I was usually good for a 120-130. I shot a 104 once and bought myself a celebratory beer.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

104 is at least playable

But 120+ just eliminates pace of play and everything.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I take 15 seconds max to look for lost balls

That’s a lot of my strokes right there. Seriously, I’m not gonna waste 2-3 minutes looking for a ball in a marsh or a forest.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I can never find my golf ball, even if I hit it on the fairway.

Seriously, it’s a problem. I need some sort of homing device.

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I have this problem as well.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that particular game was miserable…didn’t enjoy it at all. We were letting people play through us after every hole.

I usually don’t keep score, anymore, so if i’m slowing us down too much I’ll just pick up my ball and putt with my friends who have already reached the green.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Well at least you do that

I’ve played behind and with hackers who refuse to admit that they are awful.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

When I would golf with my HS friends, we hadn’t really considered our day complete unless other golfers had yelled at us for slow play.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I started with the sports editor of the paper I was working out

He taught me a lot about the etiquette of golf. He was as good-ol’-boy as they come, but the idea that this was a gentleman’s game appealed to him. Common sense stuff like “don’t walk in another golfer’s putting line” and the importance of non-slow play meant something to him. I never would have know if he didn’t teach me in fatherly way. So, I probably take playing golf waaaaaaaay too seriously as a result.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

If other golfers were around, we would play seriously and be polite, but we were all just very bad and so each hole would take forever. Other foursomes would think we were intentionally screwing around and if they yelled at us, it would make us less inclined to let them play through.

If we were playing at a time when the course wasn’t very crowded, then it was cart racing (usually more fun than actual golf) and mulligans galore.

We played Valley Green in northern York County as part of one of my friend’s bachelor weekend festivities. We were running late, so we all took our tee shots at the same time. The course manager ran out and threatened to kick us off right away.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

You were asking for trouble
so we all took our tee shots at the same time.

Valley Green is a nice course.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that and Honey Run (once with my grandfather and 2 of his brothers, who were shocked and amused at how awful I was) are the nicer courses I’ve played. It was usually Yorktowne or Little Creek with my friends, since they were cheaper, or Briarwood West Blue course with my grandfather, since he had a membership and the blue course was short enough that I could play there w/o bogging down the hole course.

York still has a lot of courses. One of these years I’ll take some lessons and get back out there.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I play all those places a lot.

Shot 73 at Briarwood West B4 during County Junior Amateur. If you need a recommendation let me know.

I am pissed that Hawk Lake (formally Yorktowne) closed. that place was awesome.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

The new Royal Manchester is less than 5 minutes from my house, but pretty expensive (c’mon…it’s between Manchester and York Haven!). Since I don’t mind the cold (if it gets cold again!), I should go out on a weekday in March when it’s a little cheaper than peak season.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I was going to say DON'T GO THERE

a lot of the tee shots are blind (can’t see fairway landing area) and the grass makes it impossible to find your ball.

The course is nice but you’ll lose all your golf balls if you hack around there.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

A lot of courses are really a holes about "slow" play,

Pisses me off, because I can’t play faster if the hackers in front of me don’t know what the hell they are doing.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Me.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Ive neevr seriously played.

However, when i went to spring training last year my buddy and i hit up a driving range where we wasted about $20 on balls that we unceremoniously tried to drill onto the green. We both woke up sore and with a new respect for people that can do that all day.

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Feb 23, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm the opposite

My short game was great, particularly inside of 50 yards or getting myself out of trouble. Hitting the ball long and straight, though, was always a challenge.

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Let the Big Dog Eat!

what is your aliment? you’re prolly a slicer, i’ll guess.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah mostly

though its been at least 5 years since i’ve played. It’d probably be easier to spend a few hours at a driving range and come up with a list of things i do right. It’d be much shorter than the list of things i’m doing wrong.

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Same here.

I’m golden with the wedge. When I start getting beyond 7 iron range, I start getting a wicked fade.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Well we need to give each other lessons then

I can hit the wedges well at the driving range off the fake grass, but on the course I’m prone to hitting the ball back and forth over the green a few times per round.

As for the driver, I used to slice all the time and then one day I sped my swing up and started crushing it straight.

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously.

I can’t fucking hit a driver. Most frustrating thing ever.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Could be any number of issues.

I’d try to close my stance first. Could be the driver you are using.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm a pro at getting out of trouble.

Probably because i’m always in it due to my poor driving ability.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I played golf once

Out of about 100 putts I sunk three, and all of my chip shots somehow went backwards.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Nyet.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

where's gio when you need him

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

That was Russian, but yea....

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Possibly!!

Is there any chance you could see if this newspaper lists an editor, or a writer, or anybody who actually works there?

I’ve found the address at the bottom but I can’t track down the name of any actual employees

(feel free to say no, obviously)

by DaveAA on Feb 23, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

no names of the employees! but!

this a weekly free newspaper from the city of Rotterdam that appears as a attachment of some other newspapers from the Rotterdam region and other areas outside the city; De Westlander, Brielsche Courant, De Havenloods and the Botlek2.

It is a compilation of news from service(information) offices. That’s why, i think, you don’t see a name of a writer or something in that direction. But they have writer! I got on the net, one person who has worked as a freelance writer till 2010.

by gio2chat on Feb 23, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

That's actually really helpful!

Knowing that it’s a compilation of other sources, I mean. Thank you so much for checking that out for me!

by DaveAA on Feb 23, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you say they stopped working there?

I found a few of them who say they used to work there, but they’re not really useful unless they are current employees.

by DaveAA on Feb 23, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

!!!

!

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

unrelated

but you’re welcome for that Basel money. feel free to bet against me any time, its probably not a bad strategy.

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Just a gamble

Rooney is out for the United game though, so you could maybe get some decent money in on that game before the line moves too much

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Yo...if anybody wants to, there's three spots open in this random Risk game I'm playing.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 9:55 AM EST reply actions  

this. i could play early morning risk

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Feb 23, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

go join

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Yo...dude...you gotta distribute your armies.

Put ’em all on SA.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Looks like a weak game.

I put most of mine in africa.

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Feb 23, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

You coulda taken SA on the first turn since nobody else had armies there.

Now you’re gonna be fighting that dude who put his armies all over the place.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

See what I mean?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah.

i blew a good chance there. i didnt even think of S.A. and didnt see your post till after i made my moves.

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Feb 23, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

That dude is an idiot.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

he is going to get run over...

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Feb 23, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea....I'm gonna take him out first.

Although maybe not since he seems like the only person who is actually gonna play.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

are you reading this convo thats happening in chat?

i hate these guys already.

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Feb 23, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea....this dude is an idiot.

He’s basically talking with himself.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

you've resorted to playing with randoms now?

man, you must be getting really desperate to fill those Risk cravings…

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

This game started like 3 days ago and still isn't filled.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

yea...gonna take forever.

Join up and together we can destroy these fools.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Last day....

….to grade the offseason moves. Voting closes tonight.

We hvae 44 entries. I’d love to get to 50 (ahem, twisted)!

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 10:18 AM EST reply actions  

How'd you know I didn't vote?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

well,

I assumed you’d be willing to stand behind your votes in the comments.

BUT MAYBE I WAS WRONG

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm...good point.

Maybe I should vote.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

"The Force?"

“The Force is what gives a CamdenChat fan their power. It’s an energy field created by all sports media; it surrounds us, penetrates us, and binds the galaxy together.”

90 feet. 4 Times. Perfection.

by Skipper_32 on Feb 23, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Cuban players detained at the beach!

it appears that the Cuban authorities are patrolling heavily the Cuban coasts to prevent the players to leave the island. In january, the RHP Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez of the Cuban national team has been caught at the Herradura beach. Now nobody know where is the shortstop of the Tunas team Alex Guerrero. Probably also caught by the Cuban authorities!

by gio2chat on Feb 23, 2012 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

what happens to those guys?

re-education camps? torture? a trip to the cinema?

by PhilR8 on Feb 23, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

i heard some in jail and if you pay, they can release you!

but some get sanction by the federation with three months not playing in the competition or a year. Jorge Soler also had been caught one or more times.

by gio2chat on Feb 23, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

How did I follow the GOP debate last night?

Patton Oswalt’s The Twitter. It was pretty goddamned funny. I even chimed in with “Only at a GOP debate could there be a birth control argumnent made by 4 dudes no one wants to fuck.”

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

haha.

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Feb 23, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I found this pretty funny

After Romney quoted him with the always go out on a high note thing:

@IJasonAlexander
jason alexander
Thrilled Gov. Romney enjoys my old character. I enjoyed the character he used 2 b 2. If he’d embrace that again, he’d b a great candidate.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder...

How many repubs who voted for Bush rather than Kerry would now vote for Mittens? I mean, you can’t tell me Kerry is a worse flip-flopper than Mitt?

Just a random thought… I’m changing my vote to Kermi the Frog, I like his green policies.

by Steven_G on Feb 23, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

you're Mitt Romney?

damn dude, I never knew.

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Feb 23, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Semi-related

Did you know it’s illegal to call a lawyer an ambulance chaser? That’s what I’ve been told anyways.

by DaveAA on Feb 23, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you know

a husband and wife cannot go to jail for the same crime?

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Just did a quick search.

http://overlawyered.com/early-years/january-2000-archives-part-2/

January 24 – "Ambulance chaser" label ruled defamatory. The Second Circuit federal court of appeals has ruled that a New York attorney can sue over a printed description of him as an "ambulance chaser" given to taking only "slam dunk cases".

by DaveAA on Feb 23, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

So its substantially more complicated than that

Theres nothing illegal about simply calling someone an ambulance chaser.

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Right I should have said "in print"

I’m still in the “hoping to get in to law school” phase of my law education…

by DaveAA on Feb 23, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Well even in print, I'd say 99% of the time, it would be considered opinion and not defamatory

In that case, it sounds like the context of the statement made fairly specific implications about the nature of the lawyer’s business practices that make defamation more possible. Its also important to note that the Appellate Court only overturned the District Court’s dismissal of the case. Its entirely possible that a jury still would have found for the defendant, or that a decision for the plaintiff would have been overturned on a second appeal.

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, 'ambulance chasing' itself is not permitted

soliciting clients immediately after an accident like that is a fairly serious ethics violation that could result in sanctions from a State Bar. So if you strongly imply that is what is occurring and not just using ambulance chaser as a general slur, a defamation suit doesn’t seem inappropriate.

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny

Because I am sure they have been called worse.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

If it were you, I might

What is your stance on monkeys wearing rubber pants?

by Steven_G on Feb 23, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

i would totally vote for kermit.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah who needs principles.

And who knows – maybe if you vote for him because of his current views, once he no longer has to win your vote he might go back to the views you disagree with.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly don't think that either financial opinion is the absolute answer

I believe in trying everything that could work. Being a hard headed son of a bitch helps no one.

by mdterps0325 on Feb 23, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

financial option?

Who’s talking about financial options?

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't get what you're talking about

I’m talking about basic principles like whether women should be able to decide their own healthcare, whether gays should have equal rights, whether the government should make sure insurance companies don’t drop coverage when your kid gets sick. These are basic principles that Romney has done a complete 180 on in the last 10 years and I can’t see how anybody could view that as a good thing.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I said a flip flop the flippie the flippie

to the flip flop flip, a you don’t stop the rock it to the bang bang boogie say up jumped the boogie to the rhythm of the boogie the beat

by DaveAA on Feb 23, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Mitt used to be my governor.

Interesting tidbit: MA wouldn’t have gender neutral marriage if it wasn’t for Mitt. He had a chance to stand with moderate Democrats and Republicans and enact civil unions, but he decided to go hard right and said he would veto the civil unions, which nobody wanted, so in the end we got marriage.

I see this as a cautionary tale to wingnuts who don’t want to see any compromise to move the country forward. If you aren’t careful, you’ll screw yourselves. That is basically what’s happening in this primary. In the race to satisfy the extremes of the right, the Republicans are handing the general election to the Democrats.

"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."

by killertomato on Feb 23, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

A Democrat as president

would be my preferred outcome. But it would also be nice if we could agree not to destroy our democracy in the process. There is something a little sociopathic about the way the current batch of Republicans is willing to slash and burn the other side and each other.

"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."

by killertomato on Feb 23, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that ship has sailed.

As Reagan’s economist said last night on The Daily Show, one of our political parties has gone insane.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Obama and Clinton did a pretty good job of slashing each other in '08

This happens every 4 years. Don’t know why we pretend like we’ve never seen it before. Bush vs McCain in South Carolina was brutal in 2000. Read up on that one sometime.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd kill for McCain to be the Republican nom right now

I mean, I’d still be voting for Obama, but at least I’d feel semi-ok if he didn’t win.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

although he’s nuts about some things these days too.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I usually feel most Republicans are nuts about something

That’s why I usually vote Democrat. Not a hard rule or anything, just usually ends up that way.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

McCain's just as likely as 3/4 of those guys to invade Iran.

But he’ll sound a lot more sane on the rest of the policy issues, even when I disagree with him, which is often.

"It's not over yet..." - Jim Palmer, 9/28/11 || Twitter

by Eat More Esskay on Feb 23, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

My fear was, he was completely disengaged on economic policy

and the foreign policy he was passionate about, I opposed.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that's what I was talking about

I just saw that he was publicly disagreeing with our generals about Iran.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I kept hoping McCain would have a bamboo shiv on stage there....

No way in hell Bush wins on merit.

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i'll be damned...

if going out on a high note ISN’T a great office strategy.

by j.q. higgins on Feb 23, 2012 11:32 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

So is anyone going to go to Spring Training?

I used to go when my college team was in Florida for our “Spring Training” and I miss it.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

Well.

I might. My brother and sister-in-law recently moved to Tampa. I went down and we went to ST last year. My brother is in Afghanistan now and my sister-in-law is looking to move back up here to go to nursing school.

so if she needs help moving, and i go down, definitely hitting up sarasota.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

my brother's?

yeah, my sister-in-law is in the process of opting out of the lease and moving back here.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean do they still own it, haha.

if so you should go down and make sure everything is copacetic.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

They were renting.

But yeah, my SIL still lives there. I’ve thought about going down there one weekend if I can.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

holy shit, i just realized that i know you

you just joined the fantasy baseball league i’m in, i went to high school with your brothers

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

No way!

hell yeah, Carroll County!

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

haha yeah buddy

what’s Karl up to these days? i haven’t seem him in a while

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

He works part time for an IT company. He graduated with a BS in Criminal Justice, but couldn’t find a job. He’s also is in the MD National Guard. So he is really just trying to get into something more full time.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

oh nice

well tell him that Keith says hey

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

oh shit.

my guess was mull. yeah, ill tell him you said hey.

ironic how i avoided making my ID pbless or something so i wouldn’t run into people i know, but then i decided i didn’t care. now i have this ID that people judge me for. haha.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

haha it's all good man

i just figured it out from your story and then i saw your twitter handle in your sig line.

but for those who have questioned, i will vouch that this guy is from the Baltimore area and does support the O’s as well as the Phillies.

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I just got an email from a friend

That the guy who played Mr. Kruger on Seinfeld attempted suicide on Friday. So my friend read that, thought, “Hey Stacey needs to know this information,” and sent me an email.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

He's in Super Troopers as well

awesome dude. Wonder why he was so depressed?

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Feb 23, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

and Oh, Brother Where Art Thou? as The Devil

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea I know

but I meant if there was a specific reason for the suicide attempt.

@sibsinExile

by SibiGnana on Feb 23, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

now he didn't feel the need to share any of those details

He just said, “Mr. Kruger from Seinfeld tried to kill himself Friday. He survived.” Learn how to tell a story!

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Audio of the entire 911 call is on TMZ.

I didn’t want to listen, but curiosity got the best of me. It was pretty sad.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Feb 23, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Who thinks the NBA is 'meh'?

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

So if you do...

Just go look at something else?

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

Fair enough.

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually have watched it more this year than every past year combined.

1) Because the season is shorter and the NBA regular season is stupid and pointless, they should make it 40 games.

2) I’m in a fantasy basketball league with some old “friends” from HS who I really want to beat.

Radical Environmental Islamic Global Warmist

by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm gonna take a lot of heat for this...

but I’ve actually thought about that as far as MLB is concerned. I love that there’s a game on every day, but I think a substantially shorter season would actually make for a better product. The great thing about the NFL is every game feels huge. I’m not saying we need 16 game MLB seasons, but 82 instead of 162 might be more interesting. It’d also mean that each team could carry less pitchers and we wouldn’t have to watch the 4th and 5th starters of the league pitch.

Now, I know it would never happen because that is a TON of lost money (and jobs), but just a thought.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the season could be a little shorter

I think half as long is a little extreme, but it’d be nice to play the World Series in September instead of November.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm actually writing a fanpost sort of about this.

But 82 is way extreme.

Radical Environmental Islamic Global Warmist

by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I said I'd take heat for it

It’d put it more in like with basketball and hockey though, and those games at least feel like they have SOME meaning.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeremy Lin?

thats still a thing, huh?

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

He's been on 2 straight SI covers

This is not what I subscribed for…

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I missed the swimsuit issue

Just subscribed when the Giants won for the SB package. I’m glad I missed it though, as the swimsuit issue is a double issue, and I rather it not take away from the remaining time on my subscription (though it’ll all even out when I get the next one anyway).

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I know nothing, and care nothing about Basketball

Except that I hope you are wrong. Because Lin seems a decent enough fellow and have not heard many good things about LeBron.

by Steven_G on Feb 23, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeremy Lin.... I think I've heard of that guy.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

TGIT

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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

same

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Screw MW

I have class from 10.30 to 5.30 and it kills me. I can barely eat, I just shove 5 Tigers Milk bars down between classes.

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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i remember in college when thursdays used to be the best day of the week

now they’re just another day like any other

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by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It's my Friday!

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too!

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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

.... and i'll cry if i want to?

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by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Note to self...NBA is frown'd upon

I don’t want to talk about Cats…let me think…

Short sleeve button down shirts, okay or not okay?

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

I say yes, but no one agrees with me

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

While they look funny

They have a functional purpose so I can go with it.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you holding up Dennis Franz in NYPD Blue as an object of ridicule?

You, sir, have no shame.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

I loved that show, but he looks absurd.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

by the way

I have no idea why my parents let me watch that show – I saw a re-run the other day and there were 2-3 full on nude ass shots and some side boob.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you.

I have an insanely high body heat as it is, and a short sleeved button down makes working in an office tolerable, since they have to crank up the heat for those with thin skin or ability to put on a jacket.

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah... fortunately at my office we have individual climate controls for our individual rooms

There’s only 4 of us, and the other 3 guys set their temps at 74, 78, and 79. In the middle of fucking winter. If we didn’t have this system, I would be stuck lobbying to be able to wear a speedo in my office.

by brek on Feb 23, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, I start getting overheated in the 70s...

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Wear a long sleeved one

and roll the sleeves up. You’ll look 1000x better.

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

yup.

that’s the solution.

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by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

I’m a sleeve-roller. Do that pretty much everyday.

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by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't stand wearing long sleeves

Not at all. The only long sleeves I can deal with are on a coat/jacket. Otherwise it’s a no-go. I roll everything though.

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

are you wearing a tie with it?

i’m ok with some of them without a tie, but pulling off the Dwight Schrute look for any reason other than comedy is not acceptable

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by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

No tie.

Personally, I’d never be allowed to wear one because my finance hates em.

But I am not going to hate on others.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

your fiance hates ties?

(I’m assuming that’s what finance means)

I would love if my bf wore ties. He wears khaki pants and a polo shirt to work every day.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

that's what I'm wearing!

my beef isn’t with ties but with collared button-down shirts. I hate the fabric and I hate the fit.

by PhilR8 on Feb 23, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Guy have much less tolerance for uncomfortable clothes than women

How y’all even put up with heels and nylons is beyond me.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Nylons aren't that bad.

But heels… for a clumsy person such as myself heels are disastrous.

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

oh I'm the opposite

sometimes in the winter I’ll wear tights to keep warm, but I never wear nylons/hose, they’re awful. If it’s too cold for bare legs, I don’t wear a skirt.

Heels don’t bother me at all.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's the thing:

I don’t like nylons but they don’t hinder my ability to enjoy an occasion. And really, I can do with really short heels but 2.5 inches or larger I’m down on the ground.

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

unfortunately,

business wardrobes dictate what women have to put up with.

women not working in professional jobs tend to go without heels and hose.

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by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually I was reading the other day that

sheer hose are making a comeback due to Kate Middleton.

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by killertomato on Feb 23, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

hates the short sleeved button downs

ties are fair game.

Yea, fiance. I’m a finance guy so that is automatically what my fingers type. haha.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

oh well then she's a good woman

because short sleeve button down shirts are an abomination.

Also, they remind me of the music director at my church when I was a kid. He always wore short-sleeve dress shirts under his suit, the he’d take off his suit jacket and his shirts would be be all sweaty and my mom would always be like “WHY doesn’t his wife tell him to put on an undershirt?”

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

especially the ones that you can semi-see through.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

my boyfriend didn't before I met him

He said no one ever told him he was supposed to wear an undershirt. So I guess the blame is on his parents?

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Ding ding ding

Same here. Who knew?

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

haha that's reasonable

My dad wears v-neck undershirts which I also think are entirely pointless and I give him shit about them relentlessly.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

There is this one older woman that works here

and she flirts with me on the daily. It’s all just for fun as she knows my gal, but the one thing she always mentions is “why do you wear that damn undershirt?”. I was amazed that it was such a big deal to her, but she always harps on it. Like I should be Clooneying it up everyday or something.

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm telling you

the ladies don’t go for the undershirt in certain situations.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I fully understand that

I was never arguing with you. But I’m not the “shave my chest” kinda guy, and I don’t have to wear a tie to work. I’m not going to walk around with a bit of chest hair peeking through at work every day.

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

well that's where "certain situations" comes in.

some guys are furrier than others. if you look like a swarthy greek (and I’m not saying you do), then an undershirt is de rigeur….. unless you’re actually on a beach in Greece.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

if you're not wearing a suit jacket

and you’re going out for a sexy/flashy evening (i.e., cocktails and a nice dinner, or a party with people who are struttin’ their stuff), it is actually a very accepted look.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I've never been to a party where people are struttin' their stuff

at least, I don’t think I have. I’m not entirely sure what that means.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

it means people are dressing up all nice and such

like you do when you visit a swanky restaurant. i was thinking dinner party for example

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I suppose people strut their stuff at the black and pink party

Which is being pushed back to April this year, but I already bought my dress. It’s awesome!

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

thread hijacker

the “dress” thread is further down.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought this was the fashion thread

not the mens dress shirts only thread. My apologies.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

no ned to apologize.

i was just being a dick for no reason whatsoever.

tell us about the dress!

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

too late

all you’ll ever know about it is that it’s black and pink.

And that the day I bought it I loved it so much that I wore it to watch TV.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Ooo guess what show I'm addicted to now!

Don’t Mess With the Dress…

That’s threadjacking!

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

You don't want to know.

It’s a wedding planning show, if you must. Don’t watch it. It’s bad. So bad.

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

That is the show. I totally got the show name jumbled. Fail. Goodbye.

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

the sequel is on bravo this fall

it’s about women in the clergy:

Confess To The Dress

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Spike is making one too

Regress the Dress – all about making them even shorter.

Goddamn Spike tries way too hard to be “the MAN’S network”

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yet they canceled "Blue Mountain State"

Discuss.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I watched one episode of that show...

I feel like self-inflicted torture should be outlawed… except I don’t really know how that would work.

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

GOOD I say.

I gave it like 5 episodes’ worth of tries and it never got a chuckle out of me.

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

my friend was on that show!

He officiated a wedding of a girl who was the focus of the episode. He was only on there for a minute but it was cool. That’s the only episode I’ve ever seen. As a general rule I hate brides.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but if you hate them it's funny to watch them freak out.

And that’s the primary enjoyment I get from the show.

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you go to prom?

That’s technically a fancy party.

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I did go to the prom

I wish there were more circumstances for grown ups to get dressed up in fancy dresses.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

RIGHT?!

I’m gonna miss that tradition. The solution is to be some bigshot actor/musician and get to go to a shitton of award shows.

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i have a friend who is into cooking as much as I am

we had a year when we alternated fancy dinner parties every month. him one month, me the next. each party had 8-10 people. and dressing up was mandatory.

loads of fun. and this was the kind of thing wereh people were wearing flashy shirts.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't know theme dinner parties actually existed.

That is fantastic.

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

zk has the coolest guests, too

It’s kinda amazing the people he knows.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

People so cool yet popular that even I know who they are

Well, one, anyway.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

it's interesting....

being in this business for a long time, some of the people you know inevitably become super famous. some of them change. some of them don’t.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a request:

When you become super famous and win a bunch of Oscars, can you thank this wonderful blog in your acceptance speech?

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, NO DOUBT

but it will more likely be an emmy. or an independent spirit award.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

ha! I wish.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Needs to be a dark-colored shirt, though.

(I had a coworker who everyday wore: white short sleeve dress shirt, tie, no undershirt. Gross)

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

or not....

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

because what makes George Clooney attractive is the lack of an undershirt

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

not having an undershirt, in the right situation, is sexy.

the key s it only works if you’re wearing a terrific shirt (and jacket, if you’re wearing a jacket).

you can’t do it with something from men’s wearhouse.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

well, yeah.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

not at all.

there’s a reason decent shirts cost more than off-the-rack. they are better made and they fit better.

MW is perfectly acceptable for 80-90% of situations. But not for the “eveningwear-no-undershirt” one.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish I was a clothes snob

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I would be if I could care a little more

I try like once a year and two days into dressing nicer I just run out of energy.

by Benhem612 on Feb 23, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

you could get lucky at Nordstrom's Rack or Off Fifth Saks.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Nordstrom's is the bomb.

Fuck Macy’s though.

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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Neiman Marcus also has an outlet store.

Although I think they kind of suck.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

If you have a CR subscription

They did a report about retail vs outlet stores for a bunch of brands. November 2011 issue. I for one had no idea that outlet clothing commonly comes from an entirely different factory and/or country than the articles of clothing sold in the retail stores – and can even be made of different materials. The results were interesting: 6 products were better from the retail store, 4 products were of equal quality if bought at the retail store or the outlet, and three products were better at the outlet store (some GAP clothing, which I found interesting).

by PhilR8 on Feb 23, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Guess has an outlet in NJ

and their jeans are CRAP. They tear like tissue paper.

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah,

Banana Republic Outlet store is junk. Same with Gap. Lucky Brand outlet uses different materials for their outlet stuff and it’s junk too. It’s the high end designer stuff that you want to hunt for at outlet store. There is no outlet version for 7 jeans for example.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe i'm a bit of a snob.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

but I DID save 15% off my car insurance.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahaha rec

I’d definitely go with tan and badass sunglasses.

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't ever want to see nipple, pit stains, or chest hair

if you don’t have any of those things going on at all then have at it.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

this is where "well made shirt" comes in

as in “not sheer”

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the primary issue with my dad

when he goes business casual it’s a nice dress shirt and jacket and pants and then the whole thing is ruined by the stupid v-neck undershirt showing some chest hair.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

Absolute must.

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by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

false

see above.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

With a suit it is.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

with a suit, sure.

with just a sport jacket, not required if it’s a really good shirt.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it depends on where you're going.

For work and such, yea…the undershirt is required.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

for WORK?

ALWAYS.

I’m talking about eveningwear.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

My dad wears short sleeve button down shirts.

But the worst part? He refuses to wear neck ties and instead wears a bolo. He thinks he looks like a BAMF… all I see is a chubby guy in a weird looking tie.

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm mean to him.

But he steals my french fries so we’re totally even.

/not really

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

nerd rec'

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Nightcrawler will always get my rec

RIP Kurt

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

He's back already, isn't he?

I don’t still read, but check online to see what is happening in my fave old books. Didn’t they bring in Nightcrawler from Age of Apocalypse somehow? Or maybe that was just a rumor?

Seems kinda shitty, but it’s better than just bringing back dead characters like usual.

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no idea

I don’t read many print comics.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Aren't all dads terrible with dressing themselves?

My dad must tuck every shirt he owns into his jeans. Don’t know why.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Decidedly, my dad wins

In the event his suspenders break, he wears a belt as well… just so his pants will NEVER fall down.

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, he's even got a creepy mustache.

The trifecta of awkwardness.

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by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

my step dad LOVES flannel shirts

like old school lumberjack plaid flannel shirts. When we were in middle school and everyone was all Pearl Jam! my sisters and I used to wear them to school. This year he asked me for some new ones for Christmas and my mom pulled me aside and was like “If you must buy them, buy solid flannel, not that hideous plaid.” I didn’t, I bought plaid. That’s what he likes!

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

At the same time?

Man, that must be uncomfortable

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I have to wear a suit.

Ties, ties, and more ties. Boo.

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by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I know we've talked about this before

but how many suits do you own? I’m thinking about picking up a new one or two.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

6

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by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Any purchasing recs?

I have bought my last 2-3 suits at Jos. A Bank, but have been seeing good deals on good looking suits at places like Nordstrom Rack recently.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea...I usually shop the Mens Wearhouse sales.

Jos.A Bank is usually outside of my price range. Especially when MW has a buy one get one free sale every other week.

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by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Is the quality decent from there?

JAB has some monster sales now and then too, but the big reason I’ve gone there is the quality – the suits last forever. I’m still regularly rocking the suit I bought there for job interviews right out of college.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I still wear 2 of the suits I had in high school.

They’re from MW. All 4 of my newer suits are from there too. Good so far, which is great considering I wear them daily.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Good endorsement

I’ll have to go check it out. Price range over there? I just saw a pretty sweet Michael Kors (which my wife apparently thinks means something to me) suit at Nordstrom Rack for $270 which seemed like a good deal.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

That's not a bad deal at all.

One of mine was a little bit more pricey (about 400)…but the others were in the 250 range. Obviously not the best stuff, but for what I’m using them for, I don’t need that.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I can't imagine wearing a suit every day

I really only need to wear once once every 2-3 weeks these days, but I want to look good when I do since I’m usually trying to convince somebody to give us money.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

best way out of this

give him some chinos that are not crazy colors, but not khaki either. like a chocolate brown, or an olive green if he can pull that off.

it will plant the seed of creativity in him.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

that really won't work

I’ve tried very hard to subtly make him a better dresser, but he’s hopeless. So far my only inroads have been getting him to throw away the t-shirts that are so old they’re literally unraveling and us making the rule that if it’s for a dress up occasion and I buy it, he’ll wear it.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

have faith

it took my wife a loooooooong time to get me to care about clothes. then one day, the penny dropped.

now i own about 15 pairs of shoes, not including my cleats, sneakers, and bike clip shoes.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Paul owns two pairs of shoes

sneakers and black dress shoes. He didn’t own the dress shoes (or a suit) until he met me.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

Even I own more shoes than that.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew I liked this guy for a reason

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

8, I win.

Radical Environmental Islamic Global Warmist

by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i easily have more than 8,

I have a pair of pairs of my everyday wearers. Plus another 4 pairs of my previous everyday shoes. On top of that… running shoes, hiking shoes, hiking boots, climbing shoes, bike shoes, cleats, water shoes, brown and black “casual” shoes, 2 pairs of dress shoes, tux shoes, some sanuks and other sandals, and probably about 2 pairs of old ratty sneakers for getting muddy.

I’m probably even forgetting some, and I think that’s about 22. I also rarely throw shoes away… that’s why I have multiple pairs of the same.

by brek on Feb 23, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

get him

a pair of these.

they’re like sneakers, but nicer! and they’re BROWN (!!!!).

like I said, ease him in.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

those are nice

the problem is, even if I buy him something, unless I’m there when he gets dressed and I’m like “why don’t you wear this?” he’ll never put it on.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

buy them

and then bring that up some day. “I got you these nice shoes, and you never wear them. Don’t you like them?”

and he realizes that he has to take some more responsibility in the “getting dressed” department.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Or he'll wear them so she'll stop nagging him

Either way, she, and fashion, wins.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

it's not a nag

it’s a gentle persuasion and IDing what’s improtant to her. it’s being helpful!

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't nag

Really as long as he lets me dress him up for certain occasions, it’s all good.

My main issue is that he doesn’t even realize that he’d like things because he won’t give them a try. Like, I bought him a nice coat for Christmas and he was all “yeah it’s nice, thanks” then he kept wearing his old winter coat that he’s had since high school until we went to New York one snowy weekend and I suggested he bring the new coat because it’s gonna be so cold. He wore it once and realized how much nicer and warmer it was and he’s been wearing it ever since. He doesn’t understand upgrades.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I so, so empathize with him

I’m the exact same way.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I just don't get not being willing to try

Like he tried jeans and now he loves them. He tried the nicer coat and now he thinks it’s great. But it’s so difficult to get him to even try.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Inertia is a powerful thing...

Why try something different that MIGHT not be as good as what I have now? Sure, it could be better, but it could be worse, too. If I keep doing what I’ve been doing, I know what to expect.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

THIS.

Same situation with my big brother. But that’s more because I’m his sister and my opinion is like nails on a chalkboard, but he does the same thing.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I wear

these just about every day. They are without question the most comfortable shoes I’ve ever owned.

by PhilR8 on Feb 23, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm.

i need a new pair like those. maybe i’ll just get thise. comfort is paramount.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Side note before birdman gets here:

I wear skinny jeans.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, dumb fashion question

I own a pair of these

Can I wear them with navy blue or dark blue pants?

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

bahaha

i love that you just linked to Wal-Mart’s website

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Like there's any other place to buy pants for less than $20

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Wal-Mart's a lot closer

I go there for groceries anyway. Buy my soda and my pants in the same store!

(And yes, I’m the only member of my family that actually buys clothes at Wal-Mart. The wife orders everything online, the girl is Aeropostale had-to-toe and the boy gets killer hand-me-downs from his cousins, who parents are both physicians and buy L.L. Bean everything.)

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes!

brown and blue is great. Just wear a brown belt too.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh dear lord THIS

Please, match your footwear and your belt.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Brown belt with navy blue pants?

Y’all messing with me now.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

If you are wearing brown shoes

you better be wearing a brown belt

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

for real

brown shoes = brown belt

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

black belt with blue pants = verboten

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Wish I'd ask this before I got dressed this morning...

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

hey! flat-fronts!!!

those shoes are terrific.

whether they go with the pants is beyond my pay grade. I’ve never worn blue pants that dark. My best guess is this:

if they’re a midnight blue (i.e., nearly black), then it’s a no-no. But if the blue is fairly apparent, it might be ok, although darker-toned brown would be better.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

This actually

if the blue can be confused with black then you’re safer to go with black shoes. Although apparently the cool kids are now saying you can wear brown with black…

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

That means I gotta go buy black shoes....

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

when in doubt

find a similar pair of pants at bananarepublic.com and see what the dude is wearing with them.

here are some navy flat-fronts:

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, that does make a convincing argument

That doesn’t look as bad as I feared, although the belt seems a bit wide

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

slightly wider belts are coming back

this is how you find out ahead of time. look at the turtleneck guy on this page of gq.

trust that retailers like B-R are going to be in the trend or ahead of it in their online catalogs.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, you just referred ME to a page in GQ

That’s like asking a 4-year-old to do quantum physics.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

interesting

I’ve been wearing a wide brown levi’s belt forever.

by PhilR8 on Feb 23, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too

we’re just ahead of the curve.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Same.

I’ve got one.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

as do i

i actually ony have one thin belt

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Just objectively

that turtleneck guy looks ridiculous.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe he was a bad example

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not as bad

as the guy with the corduroy pants tucked into green combat boots.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

someone in gq's marketing department

is like, “we’re getting a ton of hits from a random segment of the population today!”

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Re: wrestling tights

This vendor was planning a visit from his home base in FL. He kept asking me all these weird questions like how far away from the building did he have to park and did we have a refrigerator for his lunch. He shows up and I notice during the meeting he is wearing long underwear, top and bottoms, under his suit! I can see it! It’s the old timey waffle kind. He was just petrified of being cold. It was like, 35F too. Not even remotely cold.

"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."

by killertomato on Feb 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

maybe he has cold uritcaria?

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Had to wiki that.

Fairly disgusting! I don’t know what’s worse, suffering from that or suffering from being a big baby.

"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."

by killertomato on Feb 23, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

For me, turtlenecks are never going to be a thing.

Turtleneck and chain, turtleneck and chain, turtleneck and chain sippin’ on a light beer…

SCREAMS douche.

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Got more chains than the snow patrol

Everyone so thin like an insect stripper pole.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus if you wear a turtleneck it's like being strangled by a really weak guy ... all day

Random Mitch’d.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I bought TWO pairs of flat-front pants from Boscov's within a week of your, ahem, suggestion

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

wow.

duck, I am truly honored. truly.

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by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

There were on sale for $20, though.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

nothing wrong with a good sale.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

check this out

navy pants with black belt and shoes from jcrew:

It looks passable, but I still think brown would be better.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I dig the brown more

but that does look a bit more professional imo

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

also

He didn’t own jeans before I met him. Jeans. JEANS.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeans?

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

he had never worn them

He has two pair now that he wears all the time.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

what did he rock sweatpants to the bar when he went out?

i’m so intrigued right now

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

khanki pants

That’s all he owned. Even now his entire closet is a long row of khaki pants.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont get our culture's love affiar with jeans.

They aren’t comfortable, they inhibit motion, they don’t breath… it truly amazes me how ubiquitous they are.

by brek on Feb 23, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they're super comfortable

well, except for the ones that aren’t supposed to be.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah,

jeans can be broken in the way cotton/twill/khakis can’t.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I know I am not a very fashionable person...

but nylon pants (like what you would get at rei) are pretty much where it’s at for me, as long as they can be had at a reasonable price. Even broken-in jeans don’t come close to the comfort of those.

by brek on Feb 23, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It also depends on what brand of jeans you're wearing

Levis tend to be rougher while Lucky (my preferred brand) are usually super soft off the rack.

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

my entire life growing up I heard my mom talk about how

wearing sweatpants in public is a sign that you’ve given up. So now when I run to the grocery store for a minute in them I always feel so guilty.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, see i think it's hilarious when i see people all dressed up at the grocery store

i’ll rock sweats and listen to music, i definitely give off the vibe that i don’t want anybody to talk to me

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

reminds me...

I guess I’ve pretty much always hated jeans, cause I wore sweatpants to school all the time in elementary school. But I thought that jeans with holes at the knees was very cool, so I cut holes in the knees of my sweatpants.

by brek on Feb 23, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I wear pajamas to the grocery store

I wouldn’t put on a shirt if I wasn’t afraid of blinding people.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

it is for mobsters

and in NJ

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't worn sweats out of the house since I was 9

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

well isn't someone fancy

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure someone is, yes

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

well... that'd be silly

cause they don’t have very secure pockets.

But… the newer types of nylon pants are nothing like they were in the 80s. They’re perfectly reasonable to be worn around town…except that everyone else is wearing jeans.

by brek on Feb 23, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup, you're still single

And I mean that as a compliment of single women.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

my mom isn't single

and you won’t catch her out in sweat pants.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Your mom is awesome

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

You tell her often, right?

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Except you need to wear them dozens of times to get them "worn in"

And why subject yourself to wearing stiff, uncomfortable, itchy clothing dozens of times?

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

stiff, uncomfortable, itchy

jeans are none of these for me. I’m wearing a pair now that’s about 4 weeks old, have been washed twice. they’re perfectly comfy.

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by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

itchy?

are you wearing Westie’s hemp “jeans” again?

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by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really.

Those old type of jeans – made primarily for heavy-duty work (a la gold mining in 1850s, hence Levi Strauss’ fame from SF) – aren’t around much any more. Most jeans are comfortable with one or two washings.

by Sierra Matt on Feb 23, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I have not found this to be true at all

I bought several pair of jeans a few years ago expecting this to be true, but I’ve worn them each at least a dozen times and washed them more than that in order to soften them up and they remain uncomfortable.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Where the heck are you getting your jeans?

Jeans are sold BECAUSE they’re comfortable.

by DaveAA on Feb 23, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Department stores, mostly

I don’t recall where I purchased the ones I’m speaking of. I believe they’re Wranglers, but I hardly ever wear them any more so I don’t know.

I will say that I found some jeans called Denizen that are actually comfortable, but I’ve never been able to find them in black.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Now I know what the problem is.

Black jeans are uncomfortable. Try some blue ones.

by nattybroh on Feb 23, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Color shouldn't make a difference!

But I have some blue ones too and they are arguably less comfortable.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Hah, I was just kidding about that.

But if you don’t like the thick material, buy some thinner material. I’ve never had a pair of Wranglers, but I think they’re of the thicker, heavy duty variety. I find Lee jeans to be cheap (about $30) and much more comfortable.

by nattybroh on Feb 23, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that's the problem

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I definitely think they're comfortable...

But it’s really important that they fit pretty perfectly. And it also depends on the person… say, I like skinny jeans because my body shape is kind of odd (I’m skinny but not super skinny and really short) and skinny jeans work best, not because I’m making an ironic fashion statement (ahem). Of course, to a lot of people think skinny jeans are super uncomfortable. I can’t stand loose jeans, no matter how altered they get, they don’t fit.

“Jeans” is a universal term but there are so many different styles, and they’re certainly not all the same.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I never wear jeans...

because they don’t make them with cargo pockets anymore.

by brek on Feb 23, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

So unnecessary.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

any chance i get to quote "Superbad"

i’m gonna take it

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I own jeans but rarely wear them

The vast majority of jeans I’ve found are incredibly uncomfortable.

by Holymittens on Feb 23, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

you just haven't found the right jeans yet.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

This

I’m ultra picky about jeans brands because they vary so much, but I wear them far more than anything else because they’re awesome

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

oddly enough

My favorite jeans have turned out to be American Eagle. I feel like they shouldn’t be so comfy because they’re only $39.50 but they are totally my favorite. As for the rest of the stuff in that store, I’m too old.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

They are very soft

but they are also incredibly thin. It’s pretty much Guess or Lucky for me, and maybe sometimes Banana for a nicer pair, but their fits are a bit hit or miss.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

they're not the best quality for sure

But when I get an email that they have buy one get one 50% off, I usually go pick up a few pair.

I have nicer jeans that I wear for going out on the weekend, one pair from Banana and one from Nordstrom, but for every day it’s always AE artist style.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

my wife was on a five-year run of ill-fitting jeans

last year in Vegas she spent $100+ on a really good pair of Luckys and they look and feel fantastic.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing fits me right

I have to search high and low for places that sell stuff that fits, so when I find it I stick with it. Hollister used to have a cut that was perfect for me. Then Guess did. Now it’s Lucky. Eventually their styles will change and I’ll have to search again.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like Macy's

Cheap… and their Juniors section actually has stuff that fits perfectly.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I only buy 501s

but that’s after years of experimenting

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just so lazy

I found a couple pairs I liked there a few years ago and just bought a bunch.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

that's what i always used to wear

but the seat of the 501s seems to fit me better

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Most of mine are too.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I used to wear Gap jeans when I weighed more

But after I dropped a few sizes I didn’t like the way they fit and I abandoned them.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

love 'em...

nice variety of styles, fits and washes.

by j.q. higgins on Feb 23, 2012 2:38 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I have some slim boot cut jeans from the Gap

and I wear them almost every day. Nothing seems to fit me better.

I’ve got a bizarre combination of cheapness (ie, never spending more than $40 for a pair) and particularity about the length of my jeans

by Chanumas on Feb 23, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree.

Short sleeve, with tie and forearm tats is a look. If my browser history is consulted, anyway.

"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."

by killertomato on Feb 23, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

it's a look

but is it a good look? not unless you’re trying to give the impression of an ex-con in search of employment

clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...

by Gamecock24 on Feb 23, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Some people might be into that.

I’m picturing a Henry Rollins type.

"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."

by killertomato on Feb 23, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That is where I saw that! Thank you!

I google imaged searched this but I couldn’t remember what context I saw him like this. I thought I might be getting him mixed up with that guy from Tragically Hip in the Music at Work video. But now it all makes sense.

But yes, I think this is pretty hot, even though the character is obviously not someone I would hang out with and he is a terrible actor and personally maybe a tool.

But I’m an old school punk and my sensibilities are stuck in the Ian McKaye era, so YMMV.

"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."

by killertomato on Feb 23, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah... google images gave me nothing...

but I knew exactly where to do a screen grab from off of amazon streaming video.

by brek on Feb 23, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

In my youth, I once applied for a job in a suit...and short-sleeved shirt.

I had no decent long-sleeved one, and figured no one would know. The interview room was blisteringly hot, and I basically said screw it and took off my jacket. Got the job anyway, and months later when I asked about the interview, one of the interviewers told me they liked the interview, but thought it odd that I dressed “like a fast-food restaurant manager.”

by Sierra Matt on Feb 23, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Well you should be able to see a little bit of cuff outside of the suit sleeve

so even if you kept the jacket on, they’d be able to tell at the very least you weren’t wearing the suit right

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Just gave me a fashion idea:

Jackets with a fake cuff attached, so you can wear a short-sleeved shirt and not look like it!

by Sierra Matt on Feb 23, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

ooh

you’d sell the jacket with the matching short-sleeves shirt. You could also have normal cuff and french cuff versions. I smell a hit!

by PhilR8 on Feb 23, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll hire the public relations folks who sold the Leisure Suit as fashion in the 1970s.
I still have a picture of my 14-year-old self in a light green leisure suit. I now realize it was child abuse.

by Sierra Matt on Feb 23, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they’re ok, just not with a tie. Unless you’re Homer Simpson.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

never.

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

KLaw chat at 1 PM

anyone have any questions they want to ask that isn’t an insider?

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

Fantasy Question for you clowns

Who would you rather have Chad Billingsley or AJ Burnett this year? SUper deep (ottoneu) league, and I want to target some bounceback guys for the back end of my rotation

by mdterps0325 on Feb 23, 2012 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

I have Burnett in one league and am hoping for a bounce back year now that he is in the NL Central, not AL East. But i would still put my trust in Billingsley over AJ if i had the choice.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm eyeballing both Burnett and BUH-DARD!

as late round, high upside, SP depth guys.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I also like Volquez, and Liriano

These are some valuable trade secrets, don’t tell the FEC. God, I’m so unfunny.

by mdterps0325 on Feb 23, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Liriano...

man, that guy was destined for greatness.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Billingsley

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I know "One-Armed Scissors"...and that's it.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That's enough to know a reunion will be awesome

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, quality tune, no doubt

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

We'll see, they don't sound all that thrilled about doing it
We’ve all gotta make ends meet somehow—and for Omar Rodriguez-Lopez, that means playing two weekends at Coachella with the recently reunited At The Drive-In. The ATDI guitarist has admitted that the band’s reunion is partly for nostalgia and partly for money, according to NME. "We’re not getting any younger and there’s been an offer of money every year," Rodriguez-Lopez said. "You can’t avoid that. You’d be a fool and politician to pretend that wasn’t part of it."

Rodriguez-Lopez also told NME that things were "going to be weird" at the reunion. "It’s like getting back with your ex-wife, only in this case there are four ex-wives!" Dismissing talk of any new material, Rodriguez-Lopez told Kerrang!, "At The Drive-In is more of a nostalgia thing. It’s songs we wrote when we were all in our 20s, and we’re doing a couple of shows."

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of baseball

Not counting the orioles, what team do you think could surprise this year?

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 1:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

The Pirates have a legit shot at competing in the NL Central

Brewers w/o Fielder, and Braun for 50 games
Reds did add Latos, but still have SP ?’s
Cards lose Pujols, but get Wainwright back
Cubs are in rebuild mode
Astros are likely headed to 100+ losses

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

no way

Cards, Reds, and Brewers to a lesser extent own that division.

by mdterps0325 on Feb 23, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It's the NL Central

Even teh O’s could be competitive in it!
Hell, they’d probably win 90 games if they were in the NL Central

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

the same WS winning NL central?

The cards could arguably be better this year. Berkman should be a 1B, If craig gets some more PT, and Beltran playing at a decent level, with Wainwright back they will be damn good. Plus the Reds got Latos, and Mescorasco (sp?) should have a pretty good rookie year at C.

by mdterps0325 on Feb 23, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

What does WS winning have to do with anything?

The Cards lucked their way to both of their recent titles. Good for them. They made their way into the playoffs with 80-some win teams and then got hot/caught breaks during the playoffs.
But those are a lot of ‘ifs’ for the Cards. Berkman is another year older, Beltran has no knees left and has to play OF every game. I agree that Wainwright strengthens their rotation, but their bullpen is still a mess, and they lost Albert-freakin-Pujols. So, on balance, I think stronger rotation + weaker offense + weaker defense means a slightly worse team.
The Reds added Latos, but the are looking at a starting rotation comprised entirely of RHP. Their offense should be steady with Votto, Bruce, Phillips, Stubbs, etc. On balance, a slightly better team than last year.
Brewers w/o Fielder, w/o Braun for 50 games (and who knows how he will perform upon his return), but they added Aramis Ramirez, so there’s that…, and their SP and bullpen are pretty much intact. So on balance a slightly worse team as a result of decreased offensive production.
I don’t think the Pirates certainly will contend. But if Burnett and Bedard can be effective, and they catch some lucky breaks with other teams faltering they could be the surprise team that rises up and takes a division title.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

but you forgot to mention how good the Astros will be…

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, they're special

2003 Detroit Tigers special

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The Cardinals have a history of winning

World Series’ in down years, and not winning in great years for the team. The 2004 and 2005 Cardinals were as good or better as any World Series winner of the last decade, and neither team won the World Series.

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Feb 23, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

something something something crapshoot

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we just vote on the best team

at the end of the regular season?
Last Five World Series Winners by this method:
2011: Phillies
2010: Phillies
2009: Yankees
2008: Chicago Cubs
2007: Red Sox

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Feb 23, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

May I explain the 2008 Cubs:

The Angels had the best record in Baseball, but I give it to the Cubs because, believe it or not, the NL Central was really tough that year. The Brewers traded for CC and won the Wild Card, and the Cards mashed for much of the year. If I remember correctly, Ryan Ludwick and Skip Schumaker had really good years.

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Feb 23, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't even understand how they did good

they players weren’t anything special, the Cubs I mean.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

It really was an ensemble performance

for them that year. It was like Lake Woebegon. Everybody was above average.

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Feb 23, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm voting for the Orioles

Fuck your leash

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You gonna fill out your

ballot in crayon, then?

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Feb 23, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd vote Yankees in 2011

there, I said it. Now look what you’ve done.

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

With Freddy Garcia and Bartolo Colon starting?

Really? Over the Phillies?

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Feb 23, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

They're very close

But like you said with Chicago, it’s the strength of schedule that puts them over the top.

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I just have it in my head

that the Yankees were damn lucky to win the AL East last year. I mean, so many things, went absolutely as well as it could’ve gone last year for them.

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Feb 23, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

it always does when you win 97 games

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

The Phillies have had some

real bad luck over the past couple seasons. It really hasn’t stopped them from being dominant in the regular season.

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Feb 23, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Well they ran into the San Fran Giants Pitching Staff in 2010

that type of run by a staff will never happen in our lifetime again. Unless the Phillies do it this year.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

My bet, too, is on the Pirates

I don’t think they can win the division, but you have a point with the Cards getting hot and lucking their way to the WS. The Brewers have great pitching, but are lacking offensively w/o Fielder and Braun for 50 games. The Cubs are bad. The Astros are worse.

And lets not forget this team was a division leader in late July last year before falling apart after that horrible blown call in the late night Braves game.

I’d say they finish close to or over .500 and less than 10 games back of the division winning Reds.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I always kinda liked the Reds for some reason

but I would love to see the pirates finsh over .500 at least.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember mid July how excited and full that stadium was every night? That was unreal to me. I hope they can do it again. And maybe OPACY can look like that this year too.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Screw that.

If the Pirates finish over .500 then the Orioles are the biggest laughingstock in baseball with the consecutive losing season streak.

"It's not over yet..." - Jim Palmer, 9/28/11 || Twitter

by Eat More Esskay on Feb 23, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

not when the O's win 90 this year.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

sarcasm font.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

WHAT?!?

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha.

I was waiting for that response. I’m sorry, but i can’t hope on with that sort of optomism. But i see them having a good shot at .500 if things go right.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh.

I hate that I have no optimism this year.

by DaveAA on Feb 23, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

it's healthier this way.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

that's alright.

You’ll get to be pleasantly surprised.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I could try to help

Criticizing may be the wrong word. But sure. I think you are being bat shit crazy when you say that the O’s will be good and that the Yankees aren’t looking too good.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with the Yankees assesment.

They have to pay A-Rod 30 mil this year, 29 next, 26 in 2014, 22 in 2015 and 21 in 2016-17.
Sabathia gets 23 mil from 2012 to 2015 and then 25 in 2016.
Tiexera gets 23 from now until 2016.
Jeter 16 in 2012, 17 in 2013.

All in all thay already have over 69 mil in guarenteed contracts for 2016 and thats not including arbitration players for that year.

A-Rod will be 42 at the end of his contract. Sabathia will be 36 at the end of his. Tiexera will be 36. Jeter will be 39. Their production will go down, injuries will go up and their pay will remain the same, go up, or still be ridiculously high.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It's an old ass team, and they are not getting any better.

Everyone points to their new pitchers, but remember when they predicted Randy Johnson would win 30 games in one season with the Yankees. Pitchers just don’t get better in NY, they usually get worse.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

minus CC Sabathia...

but he is going to be 36 and no one has ever made the claim, “CC Sabathia is in the best shape of his life.”

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm old, fat, and ugly

and I’m in the best shape of CC’s life.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Feb 23, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think I just flagged this,

Sorry, I meant to rec it.

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Feb 23, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yay

My first flag!

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Feb 23, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Wrong.

he’s dropped like 30 pounds this offseason.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Right there with you

First time in a decade I’m decidedly “meh” about baseball season starting. Maybe it’s ‘cause I’m busy, but maybe this 15 years is catching up with me. I completely gave up on the Caps this year – haven’t watched more than a few minutes of maybe 3 games all year. I’d hate to think the O’s will fall into that category, but they just might this year. Slipknot was right…ALL HOPE IS GONE

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

All hope is gone?

There you have it folks, proof we are a winning team this year. It’s spring training, and the chant is all hope is gone.

All hope is not gone. You and Slipknot are wrong. Hope springs eternal.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha!

It would be pretty awesome if the entire crowd on opening day started chanting “All hope is goooooooone, all hope is goooooooone!” Like ghosts.

I mean, not awesome, but picture it.

"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."

by killertomato on Feb 23, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

This chant will probably start up

in the 7th inning when Gregg comes out of the pen and walks two and then give up a two run double that ties the game…

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Zeke said it but...

Gregg will not be the closer. JJ or Lindstrom will be ahead of him in ST.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

A broken promise is as good as a lie

We have made the present, obsolete
What do you want? What do you need?
We’ll find a way when all hope is gone
We’ve seen the fall of the elite
Bury your life, sink your disease
We’ll end the world when all hope is gone

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

...

And when you feel your life ain’t worth living
You’ve got to stand up and take a look around you
Then a look way up to the sky.
And when your deepest thoughts are broken,
Keep on dreaming, boy, ‘cause when you stop dreamin’ it’s time to die.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

The Reds would not be a surprise

if they won the division IMO. To me the only thing that can keep that team from winning the NL Central is Dusty Baker. I’d take their lineup over St. Louis, and their starters aren’t as bad as advertised.

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Feb 23, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Former O's news:

Matt Angle will attempt to ply his trade with the Dodgers
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/02/dodgers-claim-matt-angle.html?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=twitterfeed

And, Jay Gibbons signed on w/ the Brew Crew.

Good for them.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

First HR?

Didn’t know he had more than one.

Verlander’s the only one throwing the ball hard enough that Angle can get it over the fence if he puts a perfect swing on it.

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I just made the switch to Chrome from Firefox...

And it’s great. Firefox worked fine for a while so I didn’t think about switching… until a few weeks very strange things started happening:

1) When I went to watch stuff on Netflix it would always tell me to restart my browser, and half the time it would freeze up and I’d have to restart it several times.

2) I kept seeing the swirl of doom, and it was just generally really slow.

3) And it crashed constantly.

I was praying nothing was wrong with the computer itself, and turns out only Firefox was giving me trouble! Yay.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not Jewish.

by DCO'sfan on Feb 23, 2012 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

If you like Chrome, switch to RockMelt.

It integrates Twitter, Facebook, news updates into a bar on the side of the browser. It is pretty cool.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

wow thanks

I visited the RockMelt site and saw that I had forgotten to install the “Facebook Disconnect” extension on my work machine’s copy of Chrome. Just fixed that mistake.

by PhilR8 on Feb 23, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Miranda Lambert FTW

http://music-mix.ew.com/2012/02/18/miranda-lambert-chris-brown/

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Well she knows who her fans are, that's for sure.

and they don’t give a crap about Chris Brown or his music.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I a little bit stopped feeling bad for Rihanna

now that I know she’s recorded some songs with Chris Brown recently.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

I didn’t know that. I’m not in the know on these things. But if thats the case, yeah, I’ll feel a little less bad for her, if she seems to be over it. But I am still going to be against Chris Brown for what he did. No matter how they get along now a days.

Wada Wada Wada.
I'm on twitter, fool: @pbless29

by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I passed up free tickets to this show.

Had I known we’d be shooting the place up, I may have reconsidered.

"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."

by killertomato on Feb 23, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd go see Miranda Lambert

OK, with free tickets, but I’d go. No, actually, I’d buy tickets, because my wife really likes her. “Gunpowder & Lead” is a great tune.

In a related note, I do everything my wife says.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

That's funny because my husband wanted to take the tickets

and I said no. I don’t even think I said no, I think I just rolled my eyes! I’m not a good person.

I’ve never even heard of her. What’s her deal? Singer/songwriter-y?

"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."

by killertomato on Feb 23, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Country with a little attitude

She’s not quite alt-country, but a little further away from pop than most radio country now. Writes her own stuff. Was on CMT’s “American Idol” clone for country music known as “Nashville Star” and was a finalist but didn’t win. Loves her guns, too.

I can’t access YouTube at the moment, but search “Gunpowder & Lead” and “Kerosene” for a representative sample.

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

YouTube is blocked by my firewall.

I’ll check it out when I get home, but it doesn’t really sound like it’s in my wheelhouse.

I appreciate that she writes her own songs though.

"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."

by killertomato on Feb 23, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That's an apt comparison

"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2

by duck on Feb 23, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Who was that bad ass woman country singer few years ago?

shes like disappeared. She had a few songs about drinking and wearing jeans. I can’t remember her name.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Gretchen Wilson?

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes!

Whatever happened to her?

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

When I get home...

that comment better be green.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

It already is.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

And some people are REALLY stupid.....
PRINCESS ANNE — Someone apparently aiming to steal copper from an electrical box at the Princess Anne Industrial Park was killed Wednesday afternoon by the high-voltage equipment.

Firefighters and police at the scene said they could not identify the remains.

“There’s no way to tell who it is,” said Police Chief Scott Keller. “There’s not much left of them.”

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:47 PM EST reply actions  

darwin awards

"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino

by zknower on Feb 23, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously.

That’s just stupid.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He got what he deserved tho!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

We'll never know

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

There's just not much left!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

You Can't Fix Stupid
But let me tell you something, folks: You can’t fix stupid. There’s not a pill you can take; there’s not a class you can go to. Stupid is forever.

- Ron White

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and the movie? Sucked.

And that’s with Metallica getting a cameo.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Just watch Idiocracy instead.

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It was 2010

the team which would go on to win a Super Bo… oh wait.

That team did ruin my life though.

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Dave, I think you need to get over that game. Your team’s won 2 recent superbowls.

That said, I do have that game on DVR and I watch the last 8 minutes of it quite often.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I'm well over it

it ruined my life at that time, but I don’t give many fucks anymore. Still don’t want to watch it again, but it’s not like a Maier moment or anything. If the Eagles had gone on and won a SB or something it might have been, but it’s all good.

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I definitely hold sports grudges, and I have a ton of them but when (if) one of my teams ever wins, then I think I can finally let go of my neverending, yet unfulfilled quest to kick Bill Belechick and Jeffrey Maier in their respective groins.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That's pretty much how it works

I don’t give a fuck about Brady anymore. I don’t even really hate him. I still strongly dislike the Cowboys, but I don’t hate Romo as much as I used to. It’s mostly just their fans at this point. With the Eagles I just really really hate Vick and I don’t want them to ever win a SB because I enjoy the fact that they never won one.

As far as hockey goes, I don’t have the same hatred for the Rangers and the Flyers as I did when I was young either. Championships definitely help.

Now, with baseball, all I have is my hatred, so I thrive off of Boston and NYY losses. It’d be nice to move on from that a bit too. I still love seeing all my least fave teams lose, but it’s nice when that isn’t all you have to look forward to or look back on.

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Not really.

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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure it is.

I did nothing to warrant you just trying to piss me off.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you mean "god"

must have been a typo.

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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you suggesting Westie or I were Eli haters?

I assure you, you can go back through the CC posts and find me defending Eli since I signed up here.

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think I participated in OT back then

it was more a general you not necessary you two specifically.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 24, 2012 6:24 AM EST up reply actions  

There have been some Eli haters among the Giants fan ranks

but most of them gave it up when they won 42. The ones remaining seemed to be mostly fair weather or contrarians.

But then again, it IS much easier to like him (for Giants fans at least) after this year.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 24, 2012 7:00 AM EST up reply actions  

God has a horsey-looking face.

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Who said he was trying to piss you off?

If he’s admitting he’s trolling, that usually means he’s busting your chops

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

My definition of trolling was off base then

I thought it was more malicious than what it really is.

Plus you too go ape shit on me as soon as I bring up the Eagles all the damn time.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I get along with plenty of Eagles fans

I go ape shit on people that try to defend Mike Vick. But there’s no need to get into that now.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

But...uh...

We have Michael Vick!

I really stepped in it now. haha.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

0 rings AND Mike Vick?

Where do I sign up?!

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

A reason to post one of my favorite gifs of all time?!

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

W 16-7

It was ’08

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

of course I'm recing that

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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for Rec'ing

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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This could go on a while...

still rec’d though

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha

rec’d

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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

heh, i was thinking the same thing.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

We SHOULD get a room!

It could be filled with Orioles and Giants stuff, and it would be awesome. I guess it’d have to be halfway between us though, and that’s Iowa or South Dakota or something.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Are those even states?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be a sweet room.

Projecting the SB victory on a loop 24/7. I think we could have it further east, do they even fly planes into Iowa and South Dakota?

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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it should just be here

or maybe Delaware or something. That way we’d be between Camden Yards and the Meadowlands.

And we could play a constant loop of each Giants SB and the clinching games from every O’s WS. Now THAT would be awesome.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

I forgot the Orioles actually won stuff once upon a time

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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea

we have 7 championships to watch right there. And hell, if the room is out here, maybe we’ll get you into Devils hockey while we’re at it and throw in another 3 games.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

APRIL FOOL

Any one imposed on, or sent on a bootless errand, on the first of April; which day it is the custom among the lower people, children, and servants, by dropping empty papers carefully doubled up, sending persons on absurd messages, and such lik

by DaveAA on Feb 23, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoops should be

and such like contrivances, to impose on every one they can, and then to salute them with the title of April Fool. This is also practised in Scotland under the title of Hunting the Gowke.

by DaveAA on Feb 23, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

You know what I hate?

People who don’’t walk in straight lines and who walk slowly. Seriously people, let me pass you!

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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Ask 'em if you can play through.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Feb 23, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

totally agree.

Or when they walk on the left side of the hallway. im just like, what are you doing? you’re in everybody’s way.

Wada Wada Wada.
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by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate when people drive like that too.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

So not one for trying?

I mean, can we really “know” anything? But we can at least guess.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 3:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

But perhaps you do know.

Perhaps all knowledge is inherent.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It's only University Challenge, Rick!

It’s only University Challenge!

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by killertomato on Feb 23, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

My friend said to me, "You know what I like? Mashed potatoes." I was like, "Dude, you have to give me time to guess. If you’re going to quiz me you have to insert a pause."

Wada Wada Wada.
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by Jokes & Burns on Feb 23, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I was wondering who'd post that first

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Free mouse pads!

Check this out http://slickdeals.net/f/3984742-Free-Single-Image-Mousepad-Free-Shipping-to-Store
You can get a fully free mouse pad with your photo on it from Rite Aid. Just have it shipped to store and it’s free with code freepad . I know some of you are decent photographers, so maybe some cool stuff comes from this.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 4:15 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

It does not

I tried to make one with the new bird logo. We’ll see if it gets through.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a desk top

why wouldn’t I use a mouse pad? Especially a free one?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Laser mouse(s)...mice?

no need for a “pad.” unless it is that time of the month.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 24, 2012 6:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess

I have a laser mouse, but I don’t like the feel of it directly on the hard surface.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 24, 2012 7:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, that's good stuff.

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent read, definitely brightened up the end of the day

(except, of course, for the incorrect definition of barbeque)

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Great work!

Excellent read.

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by Parkinglotninja on Feb 23, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Very Cool. Reading that

Makes me want to talk to Dan O’ Hare some more.

Where can I get my Orange tinted glasses?

Nice jab at the other Mascots!

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Very nice observation.

Even when I wrote my little San Fran trade scenario it was hard to take anything seriously.

I mean…Matt Cain…on the O’s!…yea, right.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I started sarcastic

and then I realized that there really are cool things about us, and that was more fun to talk about.

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Fancy Clancy was a good pick.

I bet there aren’t many Yankees or Red Sox fans talking about their great stadium vendors.

I mean, sure, that’s because their teams don’t suck, but hey, whatever.

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by Eat More Esskay on Feb 23, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

There was this once Yankee stadium vendor lady

who sold cotton candy in the section we used to frequent. She had THE most annoying Staten Island Hispanic accent of all time though, and it came out more like “Co’awn caaayndeee…”. She was no Clancy.

Hell, she wasn’t even on the level of shaky lemonade guy.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, very enjoyable and refreshingly unsarcastic. Temporarily makes me feel more positive about being an Orioles fan.

I also loved the shot at the Phanatic.

My wife and I have a long-running argument about whether the Phanatic is a good mascot.

My argument is summarized thusly:

The team is called the Orioles. The mascot is an Oriole. I suppose, then, that you root for the Pelvic Thrusting Amorphous Green Pantsless Blobs?

I am never going to win this argument, but I was glad to see some props for the Bird.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You could say that the Phils' mascot should be a meter maid

Since that’s pretty much what comes to peoples’ minds when you say Philadelphia now….

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I always wondered why it wasnt a horse

They’re called the Phillies and there isn’t a single horse to be seen. Though they did once have this logo, which makes SO much more sense…

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

She forgot to mention the greatest, most storied mascot of all time

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

that's dandy, the yankee mascot!

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Patton oswalt!

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by Parkinglotninja on Feb 23, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It's like Goose Gosage and Youppi decided to have a kid.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

actually modeled off Munson

but do not besmirch the name of Youppi! by comparing him to a Yankee.

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

and delayed his unveiling due to Munson’s death

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Judging by his bat

he is compensating for something.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess it is kinda long

but I don’t even mention Gary being drunk!

The Orioles have been blessed with a number of good broadcasters over the years. From the universally acclaimed Chuck Thompson and Jon Miller to folksy fan favorites Brooks Robinson and John Lowenstein, we’ve been spoiled. Even Joe Angel, the current radio broadcaster, is a gem. But perhaps no duo is better suited to guide disgruntled Orioles through these dark days than Jim Palmer and Gary Thorne. Baseball’s odd couple, their differences complement each other and give Orioles fans exactly what they need depending on the moment.

Palmer is, like the fans, disgusted by what his beloved team has become. He says exactly what he thinks about the team as soon as he thinks it. That’s generally not acceptable here in the Peter Angelos reign of terror, but Palmer is Orioles royalty and exempt from punishment. Brilliant and arrogant, Palmer loves to talk about the O’s glory days, in particular his role. One might think he takes himself too seriously, but that’s where Thorne comes in.

Thorne joined the Orioles broadcast in 2007 and has been a welcome addition. Always laughing (often cracking himself up), Thorne has no problem picking on Palmer when he gets too serious, or lightening the mood with a non-sequitur. Perhaps Thorne’s greatest quality is his genuine excitement when the Orioles do something good. Unlike Palmer, Thorne didn’t grow up in the Orioles family, but he seems have grown to love this ragtag bunch as much as the fans do and he understands that even in another lost season, we too need something to cheer. To see what I mean, just check out this clip from the last day of 2011 season.

The only other thing they changed was my description of the Phillie Phanatic. I guess they weren’t fond of me saying “flashing his boobies.”

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I like that better

it doesn’t sound as significant of a point without the detail

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I also love his call on the next play...

“THE ORIOLES COMING TO THE PLATE…. REIMOLD!…. THEY DID IT! THEY DID IT! THEY DID IT!

by brek on Feb 23, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I had to watch the replay of that.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

This was a beauty
the “O!” is a reminder that we may be beaten down, but we are still here.

That’s honestly one of the earliest memories that I have. Standing in Memorial Stadium for the anthem, and just a roaring “O!” from a packed stadium, and being like “what the hell was that?”

by nattybroh on Feb 23, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I love the "O"..especially at random places.

Whenever I’m at a non-orioles game and that line is approaching, my wife gives me a little look that just says “Please don’t yell ‘O’”! Whether I do or not depends on my blood alcohol level.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Zachery Knower is all about yelling "O!" at games.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too.

If I get into Beaver Stadium before the Anthem (rare) I yell it.

Anywhere else I do a half/light hearted yell b/c I don’t want to piss ppl off.

by IggesRule13 on Feb 23, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I got my college roomates to do it

Even though the were Philly and Yankee fans. It’s probably why I still like those guys.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I yelled O! at the Rays A ball affiliate game against the Ironbirds in Poughkeepsie

I dont think the Ironbirds players even got it. A few turned around with weird looks on their faces though.

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by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Hobgood did tell me he loved my hat when I was on the field for the first pitch

I didn’t have the heart to tell him he’d never get to wear one.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Tub of goo is a shape?

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

CamdenChat seemed to review that “twig” was as shape, so I’m going to go ahead and say yes that “round” is a shape as well.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, round can be a shape

Twig is not. Twigs come in all shapes and sizes.

by dan o'hare on Feb 23, 2012 9:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That was absolutely beautiful

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

That's good news.

Radical Environmental Islamic Global Warmist

by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

this too.

link

When the gee-whillikers did we get ice cream???

by NSOsFan on Feb 23, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

https://twitter.com/#!/Haudricourt/status/172804608597557249

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh, he won a technicality which the arbitrator agreed with.

if the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The article isn't very specific

Of course who ever came up with the test is going to think he got off on a technicality, but i’m sure theres plenty of people who would tell you it, whatever it may be, is a legitimate flaw

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm guessing Braun is arguing some chain of custody error.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

If it is due to a broken chain of custody…then that is a HUGE reason to throw out the test.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

major fail on MLB's part if that's what happened

way to screw up your first real open demonstration of your big, bad steroid testing procedure

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

What a stupid thing for MLB to do if true.

Chain of custodies exist for a reason.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

What I find amusing is that a good number of the writers who trashed Braun (e.g. Passan) are now joking about it being a technicality and what not as if a broken chain of custody does not mean anything.

Lazy sportswriters.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

From Karl Ravech: “Appears Braun’s team won because a courier didn’t take positive test to Fed Ex building thought it was closed Saturday night.”

So basically it sat around longer than it should have leaving leaving it exposed for possible contamination by a FedEx employee or the fact that it sat around for awhile biologically contaminates the test.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Correction: It sat in a MLB fridge longer than it should have rather than Fed Ex.

The MLB courier couldn’t deliver Braun’s sample to Fed Ex because he or she thought Fed Ex was closed on Saturday night. Thus, the sample sat with MLB longer than it should have leaving it open for possible contamination.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

from ESPN
According to one of the sources, the collector, after getting Braun’s sample, was supposed to take the sample to FedEx Office for shipping but thought it was closed because it was late on a Saturday. As has occurred in some other instances, the collector took the sample home and kept it in a cool place and possibly refrigerated it. Policy states that the sample is supposed to get to FedEx as soon as possible.

The courier took the sample home?! LOL. That’s gotta be fun if one of your buddies came over for the weekend and saw a vial of pee in your fridge and upon asking, you say, “Oh it’s nothing, it’s just Ryan Braun’s pee.”

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

and what not as if a broken chain of custody does not mean anything.

It depends on the details of the broken chain of custody. This whole “the sample was held up in transit” doesn’t sound compelling to me.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds very compelling to me.

Improper handling of a sample should be a big deal.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, I was involved in compliance. You can drastically alter the quality of a sample merely by holding it longer than you should. It depends on how it was stored and what protocols were used to test what they were testing.

Regardless, a broken chain of custody yields bad evidence. The sample should have been immediately thrown out and a second one asked for. This is basic 101 for sampling and testing.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

You can drastically alter the quality of a sample merely by holding it longer than you should.

If that’s the case, then Braun deserved to be acquitted. I don’t know enough about the biology of pee samples to say what could possible contaminate it.

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I should qualify that my work was done with organics in environmental samples as opposed to organics in urine. I am not sure how testosterone is affected by mishandling.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be curious to hear some of the testing experts weigh in on this.

It would seem to me that to test positive for performance enhancers you’d have to do a lot more to the sample than alter the temperature.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a huge deal. At the same time though, I would like to know more about the detail of the vial. So the courier took Braun’s pee at home, put it in a cool place, and then delivered to Fed Ex on Monday (presumably). Did the courier invite anyone over to his house on the weekend? Where did he keep it exactly (his fridge or or a locked basement)? I’m just saying there a realistic scenario where we could legitimately say that Braun’s got lucky. But at this point, we don’t know the details.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I would say the details do not matter because they really are unknowable.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

The real issue is the integrity of the sample. Mishandling it is enough doubt to make the data resulting from that sample worthless.

It would be like police officers keeping blood, DNA, and other evidence at their homes. If the evidence in compromised, you should not be able to use it.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I think there are two separate issues here. The legal issue of chain of custody, which is what Craig Calcaterra is focusing on. On this issue, Braun won since the courier to make it to the Fed Ex store in time. There’s the separate issue of what actually happened to the vial over the weekend which could have contaminated the pee. Right now, we don’t have enough details to have an informed decision.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with that.

My perspective is that the second issue is without merit to Braun’s guilt or innocence because the sample’s integrity is sacrosanct. Any deviation outside the bounds of what is considered acceptable negates whatever information that sample might have.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

My perspective is that the second issue is without merit to Braun’s guilt or innocence because the sample’s integrity is sacrosanct.

I agree legally. But I think it’s possible for someone to believe that a person is legally innocent but personally guilty.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

To provide some context, my friend in grad school was doing her doctoral work on testing for certain organics in urine. They could only keep a fresh sample cold for 48 hours…if they froze it, it could only be thawed once. Otherwise there were issues with measuring components of the urine.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I said, if there is sound biological reasons to doubt the veracity of the sample, I’m all for finding Braun innocent legally and the court of public opinion. But what bothers me is the inability look beyond the bureaucratic aspects of the case. Just because there is a break in a chain of custody, doesn’t mean the sample is automatically contaminated. I don’t like Craig Calcaterra‘s column for precisely this reason. He’s writing a like lawyer, which is fine, but he’s also thinking like a mindless bureaucrat because he’s not focusing on the substance of how the chain of custody was broken. There could be a very innocent break in chain of custody which is legally wrong but substantively meaningless in terms of the integrity of the sample. Calcaterra doesn’t see that.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

The chain of custody is there because the sample can be affected by improper handling. The legal is based on the biological ad chemical issues.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

The chain of custody is there because the sample can be affected by improper handling.

CAN be, which is kind of my point. We need more details about what happened to the sample to get an reasonable sense of what actually happened to the sample not what legally happened.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it is too late to know how the sample was altered. No way to measure it.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Depose the courier!

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

That won’t help because to know you have to test the sample and the sample has already been processed.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

It could speak to whether it was contaminated by a human.

It wouldn’t speak to any biological degradation in the Braun’s pee because it sat in the courier’s home instead of a fed ex facility.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that due to it providing no information on the latter point that it does not matter if we know the former.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

the later issue is a biological issue which could easily be settled via expert witness.

If an expert biologist says that degradation is unlikely, then deposing the courier is completely appropriate if you’re interested in the finding out if Braun is really guilty.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

No, you cannot settle that with an expert witness because that expert witness does not know what happened to the sample. It is something that simply cannot be known. He could probably speak to what likely happened, but that would not provide complete knowledge of whether the sample was still usable. Expert witnesses simply cannot solve these issues. This is often why in scientific cases you have expert witnesses on both sides with opposed perspectives.

Anyway, to end my thoughts on this.

Any deviation of the chain of custody renders that sample unusable.

That is the scientist in me. That is the scientist in me who has done compliance testing. As soon as the chain of custody was broken (which was when it arrived at the testing facility), the sample should have been thrown out. With that…any discussion ends for me because there is no longer any evidence.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

because that expert witness does not know what happened to the sample.

I’m just saying that an expert biologist can only say if there’s biological degradation given a set of circumstances. That’s all. I believe you can agree with this.

Any deviation of the chain of custody renders that sample unusable.

Like I said, I agree legally speaking.

With that…any discussion ends for me because there is no longer any evidence.

Well, I am scientist as well (a social scientist but scientist nonetheless), and here’s where we disagree. Oh well.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I did not mean to discredit your status as a scientist…I mean it shorthand for me being directly involved in decisions involving chains of custody for events similar to this.

Once the chain is broken…you are not left with anything usable in a scientific setting. I am not sure why Braun’s innocence should have a bar lower than the integrity demanded of science.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Once the chain is broken…you are not left with anything usable in a scientific setting.

On one hand, I agree with this because procedures and bureaucratic norms are enormously important to the scientific process. On other hand, I don’t like slavish devotion to bureaucracy. For example, if a sample was keep in frig A when bureaucracy demands it be kept in frig B even though the two frigs are exactly the same, the chain of custody has been broken and the scientific procedures have been undermined. Does that render sample unusable though? It’s a tough moral question surrounding scientific norms.

I am not sure why Braun’s innocence should have a bar lower than the integrity demanded of science.

As I’m trying to say above, I think the situation is more nuanced than that.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Does that render sample unusable though? It’s a tough moral question surrounding scientific norms.

And I should add that when scientific norms of data handling have been broken (something not uncommon in the social sciences), it is the duty of the scientist to fully report such breaches of protocol and allow his or her peers to decide for themselves if such a break invalidates the results. My only point here is that details surrounding this breach is not known.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Right now, we don’t have enough details to have an informed decision.

This part sucks for Braun too. Its impossible for him to be entirely vindicated here if the test really was due to a contaminated sample. He’s going to forever by under some cloud of suspicion for the rest of his career.

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

If the courier is later revealed as a Cards fan, that'll play well for Braun.

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

MLB really muffed this up.

They should have dropped it as soon as there was doubt on the integrity of the sample.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

out of cursiosity, as a lawyer,

has any doubt that the braun is guilty been completely removed for you?

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Completely removed? no

Do i have sufficient doubt of his guilt that i completely agree with not suspending him? Absolutely. I also have worked in enough labs with really volatile samples to highly distrust the results of the test if the proper protocols weren’t followed.

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

aren't they all though?

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 23, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

To some degree, sure

but not to the level that Braun will be

by kba26 on Feb 23, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is why it's a technicality.

And it probably won’t totally save his reputation.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Not unreasonable to think, based on MLB's reaction to the appeal...

…that they’re gonna be out to screw him.

If I’m Braun I’m dotting every i and crossing every t from here on out.

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by Eat More Esskay on Feb 23, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

MLB won't using that arbitrator again!

Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"

by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah he should be watching his back from now on.

Clearing every little supplement with them and what not. And don’t forget your herpes meds!

by O'sFan21 on Feb 23, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew Manny was innocent!

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by birdman on Feb 23, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Jewish Baseball Fans Rejoice

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Feb 23, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, Spotify is growing on me

Slayer Radio’s first track? “Payback”. That’s my go to track after a trying day at school. Yeah, it’s a bit excessive, but rather cathartic.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

That'll do, alright.

He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...

by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 23, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

And my new fave TV show got some time on Conan...

http://teamcoco.com/video/lizard-lick-towing-ron-amy

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

one of the best trashy reality shows ever!

i love it.

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by Parkinglotninja on Feb 23, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Not Reality. Actuality.

That’s TruTV’s slogan. That show is completely staged. They don’t even hide it.

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by duck on Feb 24, 2012 6:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Maryland Senate approved gay marriage

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 8:02 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Since it's legal now

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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the referendum could rescind it, not prevent it from going in right now.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Basically, like Prop 8 did in CA until it was struck down by the 9th District Court, right?

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I know distressingly little about Maryland politics.

Being a liberal in Carroll County, I focused more on Federal.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you put this in layman's terms?

Are voters gonna shoot it down?

...While you're waiting for moments that never come.

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 23, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

If those opposed rally strong and attend the referendum…it will be turned over.

Until, probably, the courts unturn it over.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it NARROWLY passes

A few groups that might oppose it are also historically very reluctant to actually show up and vote, also.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd love to see some polling on it

I honestly don’t know if it will pass. Many constituent groups teh Dems have historically counted on may not be in their corner on this one.

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by duck on Feb 23, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Last I saw was 51-44 for gay marriage in Maryland.

by crawdaddy on Feb 23, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmmm

Steve Buschemi directed this episode of 30 Rock

Radical Environmental Islamic Global Warmist

by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

huh

thought it was a great show based around an even better idea

by brek on Feb 23, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

This is so awesome

so the Giants took a picture with their “gigapixel” camera during the 1st playoff game at MetLife stadium and are asking fans to tag themselves. This image is amazing.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

That is amazing.

Whoever tagged themselves on the players though is lame.

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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 23, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That is pretty lame

though I was thinking of figuring out which direction my place is and tagging myself over the wall. I was only a few miles away…

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

thats awesome.

this would be real sweet at OPACY.

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by Parkinglotninja on Feb 23, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be cool

also, it would be super easy to tag yourself because you’d just have to sort through the 12 people in the stands

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 23, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

this man!

"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia

by Parkinglotninja on Feb 23, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

The Ravens did this at M&T Bank Stadium

I believe it was the Thanksgiving game against the 49ners.

Baseball nerd

by Michael18 on Feb 24, 2012 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Holy crap!

If you zoom in on the Giants sideline, right over the word “Falcons” on the scoreboard there is an awesome usher cheering or something. Right next to him is a man in a blue hoodie. With 3 hands.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 24, 2012 7:06 AM EST up reply actions  

What the wtf?

He does have 3 arms. That would be pretty handy. “Handy”. Get it?

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Feb 24, 2012 7:40 AM EST up reply actions  

its the seam in the image

notice the guy below and across the aisle from him’s fading head.

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 24, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Well shit, I thought he actually had 3 hands

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 24, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

this is mortal kombat?

Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope

by Andrew_G on Feb 24, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

His head is part of the seat!!!!!!

Next thing you’ll start explaining that magicians are just tricking us instead of doing real magic.

"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller

by Zeke McGeek on Feb 24, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Just randomly scrolling through the pictures

either there are a ton more like it or it was the most unlikely find ever.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 24, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh...

and the usher actually drew my attention at first because of the pose he’s in. If it weren’t for him I probably wouldn’t have noticed the 3 handed man.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Feb 24, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

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