Friday Bird Droppings
by j.q. higgins on Feb 3, 2012 6:45 AM EST
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PrintHappy Friday, folks. Edwin Jackson and Casey Kotchman are no longer our concern, but Manny? Yeesh. As I write this I remember now that I had a dream about the 2012 Orioles last night and Brian Roberts was playing. Huh.
A’s, Orioles Emerge As Leading Suitors For Manny Ramirez | SI Tracking Blog – Appropriately enough, this rumor resurfaces on Groundhog Day. Would you oppose a minor league deal?
School of Roch: Jackson's off the board (Kotchman too) Anybody want a Lannan?
Baltimore Orioles: When do we start outthinking ourselves? I wonder how common this view is?
Steve Melewski: Dan Duquette on arbitration cases and recent trade talk (update) Dan Duquette exhibits his sparkling public personality.
Talk about "Protect this House", on this day in 1900, physical confrontations ripened into a tense standoff over possession of the Union Park Grounds in Baltimore.
It's the birthday of Fred Lynn.
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hey guys hey guys hey guys
did you hear Edwin Jackson signed with the Nationals? shocking news
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I'm glad we didn't get him
Don’t we have like 100 starting pitchers already? I know he’s an innings eater…but no one seems to keep him on their team very long…
True
But let’s not overthink this.
Does he make your team better?
I think so.
I don’t care about money or contracts or anything else.
I just want to watch a team that cares about winning and doesn’t suck.
At the very least the Nationals are trying, the Orioles…well I have no idea what in the hell they’re doing.
"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage
The Orioles signing Edwin Jackson would show that they don't actually know how to start winning
by Holymittens on Feb 3, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How?
Jackson immediately becomes our default #1.
He’s better right now than every other SP we have.
"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage
Of course not
Those are all self imposed issues that the franchise has needed to fix for YEARS!
I’m just sick of the loser mentality and the excuses about why they can’t get better.
How do you make your current 2012 product better? Get some better players.
Otherwise we are stuck where we are as in every year.
Who is really excited about the upcoming season? A season where we are picked to finish last -AGAIN and have no hope for the post-season.
"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage
Edwin Jackson wouldn't change that projection
At all. So why sign him? Why pay for a few extra wins when they have no meaning?
The team won’t be good until we develop young players to build around. Until then, signing a complimentary piece like Edwin Jackson is throwing away money.
And by the way, signing players like Edwin Jackson is EXACTLY what the Orioles have been doing for years
Edwin Jackson is the new Tony Batista, Rafael Palmiero (v2), Pat Hentgen, etc.
I think Edwin Jackson is a little bit better than all of those guys.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 3, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
I mean I agree
but I don’t think he’s comparable to those guys.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'm not saying talent wise they're comparable
Only in that he’d be a guy we’d sign to provide benefit, but ultimately have any benefit he provided not matter.
I’m also not convinced he’s good enough to not suck facing AL East hitters over a full season.
But Duquette Loves Our Core
At least that’s what he says.
Wieters is 25, Jones, 26, Hardy 29, Kakes 28.
How much younger do you want go? Either these guys are good enough to build around or they aren’t. In which case start trading them now to restock the farm and plan for the future.
The Orioles have never FULLY committed to a rebuilding project. If they did that I’d be fine about letting Free Agents walk to other clubs. But they always seem stuck in the middle and have no clear vision for what kind of team they want to be.
"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage
Then Trade Away
I’d fully support that 1,000%.
At least it would show you have a plan.
"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage
I think you're trying to make one argument
but instead make a strong case for full on-rebuild. Trade everyone except Zach Britton and maybe Matt Wieters.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Of course Duquette says that
He’s not going to come in and say “Man, everyone on this team is a pile of shit! We gotta get rid of these suckers and find some real players.”
Of Course Not
Actions speak louder than words.
This team has always half-assed it when it comes to building a team. When they do chose to spend money it’s often very foolishly.
If Jones won’t resign long term then shop him. If Hardy wasn’t good enough then why did they extend him?
"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage
I think part of the problem is you aren't going to get very much for Jones
They say they aren’t “shopping” him, but it seems pretty clear between the lines that they are. Nobody seems very interested in giving anything up of value for him though, so it seems pointless to trade him for some fringy prospects or mediocre major league players.
So instead
We’ll hold on to him and then lose him to free agency and get nothing in return.
"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage
The problem is that 2 of those guys aren't good.
and a third is just pretty good. None are stars at the moment although Wieters could be.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'm always excited about the new season
If your attention is waning, that’s understandable. But throwing $10MM for one year of service when it means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things just to “build excitement” or to convince the fans that the team is “trying to be competitive” – that’s just nonsense and I’m glad the O’s aren’t lapsing back into those old habits this offseason. Although I guess some of the NPB signings can be seen that way, but fuck it, I’m interested in that particular experiment.
I'm Tired of My Team Being the Joke of the League
That simple.
I see an unmotivated, passionless ownership who continues to make piles of profit off of a crappy product. He has no motivation or incentive to reinvest money to make it better.
I can’t excited until he sells.
"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage
I disagree with that
It’s a business. He makes money either way. Why would he want to take money from his profits and reinvest them. He’s also a notorious micro manager.
He may want to own a great restaurant but burns everything he tries to cook. Why not hire a chef and get out of the way.
Great “Godfather” line by the way. It made me laugh. I must laugh otherwise I’d cry or get angry or both.
"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage
I disagree that he is
But even if he is, he’s not a great pitcher, merely a good one. And he improves the team by, what, 2 or 3 wins (being very generous here)?
So hooray, we win 78 games next year instead of 76. And we’ve wasted money.
He ain't even that great... 4.5 ERA through 9 seasons.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
He's had more success over the past 3 seasons, when coincidentally he was gone from the AL East.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 3, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Tillman is going to turn it around this year...
And I did read that Matusz is in good shape.
Why doesn't any team want this guy?
He’s 28 and played for half the league…
No kidding.
I think I’d rather have Fred “If There’s A Lefty Pitching Today, I Think I’m Injured” Lynn. He’s only 60 and in the best shape of his life!
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
No Manny! Sorry Manny!
Manny Ramirez is good baseball player, but he is too old for the Orioles and he’s going to retired. He wants to come back, becuase he still has a sanction of MLB, that prevent him to play in the Dominican winter league. We must give young prospects a chance to play at ML level, maybe one can develop to good batter.
big money big money
no manny no manny no manny … Stop!
by nattybroh on Feb 3, 2012 7:58 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Ramirez
is an abuser of women and old men. He is a habitual cheater and drug user. Worst of all, he dogs it when he feels he is being disrespected, which is 90% of the time, because he’s a dick. See above reasons.
I’m not naive. I think pretty much 100% of professional athletes are not somebody I’d want to marry my daughter (exception: Ray Bourque), but Manny Ramirez is a major league problem child who has left his last three clubs under a black cloud. The Os have enough problems. Let’s not add the care and feeding of Manny to the list.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
by killertomato on Feb 3, 2012 8:01 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
Well said
Sometimes in professional sports, a team signs a guy with known issues, and as a fan of the team, you take the bad with the good and hope he doesn’t do anything too stupid while he’s in the employ of your team. Manny’s had his chances to turn his reputation around, but time and again he proves himself to be a selfish d-bag. I just hope that DD’s past experience with Manny doesn’t incline him toward giving him another chance.
And Ray Bourque? That made me laugh.
I don't think he left Chicago in any sort of huff
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Well, he was there for only 24 games
A huff takes a while to percolate…..
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
In Tampa Bay
the huff sort of had him.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
In Tampa Bay, Huff is also the all-time GIDP leader.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
That's true.
I forgot about about Chicago. But he wasn’t really there long enough to make much of an impact on or off the field.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
The classics never get old
You can leave in a taxi. If you can’t get a taxi you can leave in a huff. If that’s too soon you can leave in a minute and a huff. You know you haven’t stopped talking since you got here. Were you vaccinated with a phonograph needle?
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
Forgot the credit!
Groucho Marx as Rufus T. Firefly
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
hella rec'd
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
So, what you're saying is
The O’s have found their 2012 opening day left fielder.
by InfrasonicTom on Feb 3, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Let me ask you all this
what if you knew for a fact that Manny Ramirez was going to start in mid-June after his suspension and then proceed to play 4/5 of the remaining games and hit .275/.375/.460, which sounds improbable but isnt actually too far from what he did in his last fullish year in 2010. So he could either be flipped at the deadline or used for his raw production in the quixotic quest for .500. Would you want him then?
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I would rather not see him as an Oriole.
What are they really going to get if they flip him? A middle relief prospect? Not worth the sure to be ensuing headache. The fact that the quest for .500 is quixotic makes it a frivolous signing. There are already enough potential DH’s on this team who might still be playing baseball 3 or so years from now. I’d rather see one of them.
because it's really crucial that we give Betiment all of those DH at-bats
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
He's not an ideal option obviously, but why pay Manny so much money to take away those same at-bats?
what makes you think it would take a ton of money to sign him at this point?
if the last two teams interested in him are the O’s and the A’s, i don’t think we’re going to have to be handing out Vlad-type money to him for a one year deal
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Okay fine take the money out of it
STILL why pay him at all to take away those same at bats? I doubt it, but there is still the potential that a player like Chris Davis or Nolan Reimold has a really big season. Why bring an aging known quantity on board? I don’t think the potential deadline trade return, nor the inevitable on or off field gaffe would be worth it.
the only person that i would care about losing at-bats would be Reimold
but he would still be able to play left field and get plenty of ABs those first 50 games that Manny would be sitting out. between Davis and Betiment, it’s not like either one of them is going to be a key part of any long-term sustainable success that the Orioles have, so who cares. i mean the Betiment signing itself is a straight-up stop gap measure.
plus, i’m not buying all the hatred towards Manny. would it be the worst thing in the world to have some national media attention on the team in June that is talking about something else other than how awful the team is? yes, in a perfect utopia it would be great to have a roster of 25 nice, well behaved guys that save puppies and work at homeless shelters every weekend. but that’s not the reality of life. if we sign one guy with suspect character and it makes the team better in any conceivable way, then it’s absolutely worth it.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Agree to disagree I suppose.
I do see your point. If the Orioles do sign Manny, I will almost immediately start using the exact line of thought you have just outlined to justify it to myself. However, if given my druthers, he would stay far away.
by DaveAA on Feb 3, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
you know what, i appreciate the polite and genuine response despite the fact that we don't agree on the matter
you have earned one rec, sir
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
by Gamecock24 on Feb 3, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I love it when people get along
Which is another reason I don’t want Manny on the team… :)
Dave and GC sittin in a tree
R-E-C-C-I-N-G.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
by NSOsFan on Feb 3, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Oo kinky
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 3, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
make sure to specify just DaveAA
that daveh guy, i wouldn’t rec him with a 10 foot pole
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Yea, that guy sucks!
Who was it that wasn’t gonna rec me until the Giants win Sunday? I want to be ready for the rec tidal wave.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I will say the red sox would not have won in 04 and 07 due in to no small part of him.
But he QUIT on his team ! that is unforgiveable
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Feb 3, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
you still got two titles out of it though
doesn’t that make it worth the heartburn he caused at the end? i would say yes, but then again i don’t know what the feeling of winning is like so i can’t speak from experience
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Clearly he's one of the better hitters in history
and if the question was “would you put up with Manny Ramirez to get several years of his prime production?” then I would absolutely and unhesitatingly answer yes.
If he was not known for laying down on his team i would say yes
But everyone knows that is not the case here
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Feb 3, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Bull
There is just no possible way that given the choice between 04 and 07 with Manny, or no World Series championships and no Manny, you take the second option.
I thought we are talking about now
And after what he showed as his true self i say no , but hey we can all think what we like
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Feb 3, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I don't care about his attitude
I just don’t think he’s going to be any good. Just another old FA in the twilight of his carrer…we have better players.
Now, if he was going to be our closer, that would be a different story…
because Endy Chavez, Chris Davis, and Wilson Betiment just screeeaaammmsss murderer's row
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Chris Davis will have a better year than Manny Ramirez
there, I said it…
No Thanks
That’s exactly the sort of loser mentality that has permeated the fanbase.
Hey, we’ll get some national attention for a two time drug loser, women abuser trying to hold on to a fading career. At least they won’t be talking about how much we suck and the fact that we have prospects of ever digging out of this mess that the front office created.
Sad. Laughable. Pathetic. Just like Manny.
"Have a good time...all the time." - Viv Savage
and just like the Orioles have been for the better part of two decades
he’d fit right in!
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Loser mentality?
Better sign Vlad!
/JP’d
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
do me a favor
and define what you mean when you write “loser mentality”. I’m not being picky here, but I want to know what you mean by that in exact terms.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I'm thinking of banning the phrase "loser mentality"
It’s basically a way of calling everyone else idiots.
Absolutely not.
I don’t care what theoretical numbers you put up there. I don’t want his attitude and “baggage”.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
You are right.
It does sound improbable. Manny’s intention is to serve out his suspension so he can play in the DR. So he won’t be juicing. So it’s pretty unlikely you are going to see those numbers.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
that's not answering the question though
nor is there a satisfactory link between so-called “performance enhancing drugs” and actual enhanced performance.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
It doesn't answer your question, no.
But you are posing a hypothetical that I don’t think can possibly play out. Even if you take juicing out of the picture, he doesn’t give a crap. Whatever team he signs with is a means to an end. The last group of suckers before he can become King of the Dominican. You are talking about a guy who doesn’t show up for spring training, poisons clubhouses, causes massive HR problems and cheats like it’s his job. And that’s when there was actually something at stake. How do you think he’s going to act when he’s just counting days? Do you think he’s going to show up in the best shape of his life and give it 110% everyday?
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
hear, hear!
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Agreed
Manny can barely bring himself to give a shit when he’s on a team with the potential to contend. Imagine him on a team that is essentially out of the race before the season begins?
My opinion has changed in the last year, though. I thought Tampa Bay signing him on the cheap was a pretty smart idea. But then I saw how it turned out.
But, remember when... remember when....
….Manny high-fived that fan at Camden and then gunned the guy down at second….
….. that was pretty badass!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
First time I have heard Manny and gunned down in the same sentence
God I hate ManRam. Keep him away from the Orioles!
I fucking loved it.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Ugh. How could you possibly?
To me that high five is the symbol of how terrible it is to be an Orioles fan right now. The sawx come here, and not only is it a home field for them, but their player fucking high fives one of their fans? At an away stadium? Fuck that. That alone is reason enough that I could never ever cheer for Manny.
by DaveAA on Feb 3, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
C'mon brah... if AJ did that, we'd be going apeshit.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I absolutely would.
But their team’s fans take over our stadium and then that happens? Just embarrassing. I hate the fact that I don’t want to go to games at Camden if the Redsox or Yankees are in town. I hate it. And I hope that some time in my life the O’s will be good enough that I don’t hate it.
Oh, I love it...
I’ve literally been escorted by policemen out of two BoSox games over the past few years.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
It's all a drunken blur
One of them I was behind the plate probably ten rows up and it was a game the Os were actually in, and then one of those soul crushing blown leads. You know, where the Red Sox fans start off all cocky, and then they get quiet, and then I get all loud because we’re winning, and then they come back, and then they get all louder because they’re winning. And I start into it with these 4 about 5 rows back and the chick is being super super super duper obnoxious and screaming obscenities and stuff at me. So I turn around and yell something obnoxiously sexist to the guy about his girl (my bad, she asked for it… but still… my bad). In any case, ended up going toe-to-toe after we’d already been warned like 2 innings before.
Next thing ya know, all the cops are down there and take us both out. They took us to separate gates though so we didn’t murder each other in front of Cal.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
At least you took him out with you, man.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 3, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
it's just one of those moments
where you shake your head and say, “Wow, I wish our team could do that.”
Didn't he throw out Aubrey Huff, who'd done something stupid to get thrown out?
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 3, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Wasn't that also the game with the big O's comeback including a go-ahead grand slam?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yep
Jay Payton hit a Grand Slam off of Okajima. I had actually forgotten that both of those things happened during the same game.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2008_05_14_bosmlb_balmlb_1
Yeah
I took the marc train to the light rail for the first and only time for that game and got absurdly delayed and didn’t get there until the 6th inning. We had seats about 10 rows deep in left field right about where JayPay’s GS went. That was awesome.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I was in the "Eutaw Street Reserved" section aka bleacher seats
was a pretty good game all-around. My buddy even called the grand slam right before it happened, but it was just wishful thinking and an incredible coincidence.
That's probably the happiest I've been at an O's game
in a long long time. That was amazing.
Although last year’s home opener was pretty awesome.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I remember sitting in a computer lab on the UB campus "watching" the Gamecast of that game.
Complete with one of those two minute pauses where you know some shit happened, because there’s only a two minute pause when something happens.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 3, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
The worst is when you wait two minutes for the update
then the update doesn’t make sense. And you know it isn’t actually what happened. Then the update of the update is the worst possible scenario.
I.E. Bases loaded 1 out. Wait 2 minutes. Second and third 1 out, but no run scored.
So you know, either they screwed up and didn’t update the runs, or they didn’t update the outs.
Then you hit refresh about 10 times before it updates to
V. Guerrero grounds into double play shortstop to second to first.
End of inning (no runs, 3 hits, 2 men left)
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
I don't know....
he really hustled that time he intercepted Johnny Damon’s throw.
And I hear he’s in the best shape of his life.
nor is there a satisfactory link between so-called "performance enhancing drugs" and actual enhanced performance.
that’s entirely a matter of opinion.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
sorry, but
The word “satisfactory” is not a scientific one.
I am satisfied there is a link. There is, in my mind, overwhelming evidence.
If you want to be scientific, use words like “conclusive”.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Feb 3, 2012 12:01 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Conclusive isn't anymore objective than satisfactory
very few things are ever proved with 100% certainty, but are declared conclusive at some confidence level. Satisfactory would just be defined as a broader confidence level level than conclusive.
I'm not arguing one way or the other if there's a link
Only that there being a link or not is not a matter of opinion, but of scientific fact.
You can have the belief that there’s no proof of global warming, but you’re still wrong, because there is scientific fact behind it.
ITA
But that doesn’t mean he’s right, it only means nobody has dug up and presented the scientific evidence yet. I’m not willing to do it, so I didn’t argue with him about it.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
by killertomato on Feb 3, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Meh.
It’s not like the data isn’t coming from reputable sources.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Which is basically global warming research HQ.
Same place all the… questionable, to put it nicely… emails on the topic came from.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
by questionable
you mean the scientists talking about how stupid people were going to jump to invalid conclusions about this data even though the data doesn’t support those conclusions? Right.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Heh.
Let me put it this way: the whole “the science is settled” meme is the most anti-science attitude possible, their conclusions are not based on reproducible experiments to begin with, and there are plenty of intelligent people, including many scientists and engineers, who look at the data and disagree with the conclusion.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
He said intelligent people
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Intelligence does not equal authority
I am well above average intelligence. If I gave you my opinion on physics, it would be meaningless because I’m not a physicist.
Similarly, engineers are not atmospheric scientists. Nor are biologists or chemists or astrologists.
It’s the same thing with the Airborne stuff. It was made by a teacher, but that is a false weight. Teachers are not medical researchers who can develop drugs.
And anyone who claims
that “the science is settled” is not a scientist, either.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Science is ALWAYS changing
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
No, I'm not a scientist
The majority of scientists say things like “The scientific consensus is that it is happening.”
Just because new data might change things does not mean that the data we have now should be ignored.
Sometimes the sky IS pink...
Every seen an amazing sunset?
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Of course...
those colors are caused by pollution
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Except this really isn't true
There is VAST agreement among the scientific community. There’s a lot of pseudo-scientists and non-scientists that don’t agree, but that’s a pretty different beast.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Oftentimes
They get labeled pseudo-scientists because they don’t agree.
CMON… havent you seen Ben Stein’s movie???
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Ben Stein is about as pseudo as you can get.
Although I used to really enjoy his economic writing in the NYT sunday business section.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I love Big Ben.... Stein
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
The ones that disagree are just marginalized.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
They're marginalized because they're wrong
Just because they believe something wrong does not mean they are entitled to be treated as if they are correct.
You can find a list of scientists who believe in Intelligent Design as well. That doesn’t mean it’s valid.
lol seriously?
That’s an absurdly short list.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Seriously...
“97–98% of the most published climate researchers think humans are causing global warming.1 Another study found 97.4% of publishing climatologists and just under 90% of all earth scientists think significant man made global warming is occurring.”
From the very page linked.
I don't disagree with global warming
I think it’s an insanely overblown topic.
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
For real. We already know what's causing it
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
Because
those who run scientific journals are never biased or self-interested, and would never consider not publishing articles that disagree with the consensus and thus threaten their funding. More than one in ten earth scientists in general disagree? That’s pretty significant.
Like in much of what we call “science” today, this is another field in which people are claiming to prove scientifically things to which the scientific method cannot be applied. Physics or chemistry, this stuff is not.
I’m not even saying global warming isn’t occurring – but it is impossible to prove via the scientific method, considering that (1) we can’t exactly create duplicate Earths and run experiments on them, and (2) the Sun is such a dominating factor in Earth’s climate, and we know so little about how it works or how to predict its activity, that with our current knowledge, it’s difficult at best to isolate solar activity, let alone prove that CO2 levels are causative of, rather than correlating with, warming.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Stacey was right
If I had a daughter, you’d be the first CCer in line to be allowed to date her.
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
So you're saying Vuff is the Pedobear?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
We don't need duplicate Earths
We know how much energy the sun is putting out. We know how much CO2 is in the atmosphere. We can run experiments on a smaller scale the replicate the concentration of CO2 in an atmosphere (by, say, taking an actual greenhouse, adding CO2 to it, and seeing how it compares to greenhouses without the CO2 in it).
We also have other planets we can measure. Like Venus, which has a very high amount of carbon dioxide in its atmosphere and is subsequently much hotter than Mercury, a planet much closer than it to the Sun.
Also, we can't replicate the Big Bang
Or the formation of the solar system. But we have enough evidence currently to make fairly firm scientific claims about them.
Aaaaaaand
they’ll continue trying it forever just because, this is the experiment that doesn’t end… yes it goes on and on my friend……
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Yes and no.
It’s another area in which it should be emphasized that the science is our best guess based upon what we know, which is quite limited. And the whole need for an unmoved mover means that origin-of-universe science can never supplant philosophy and religion.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Few scientists ever make the claim that science can supplant philosophy and religion
They aren’t douches like Richard Dawkins.
And in general, I hear the various physics models described as being “our best representation of things” rather than it being nailed down as hard truth.
I agree
and on a side note, I saw a Dangerous Method last night which sort of illustrates this topic. Freud and Jung sort of split ways because Freud wanted to complete fidelity to the scientific method while Jung wanted to branch out in areas to address more humanistic concerns.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Stephen Hawking has been, of late.
But yes, plenty are good about it. I just wish they all were.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Not the same thing.
Anything not involving repeatable experiments relies on assumptions that may or may not be valid. There are a bunch of assumptions in that list of steps right there.
Science runs across a spectrum, from the most mathematically-intensive and -derived (physics) to the least (social “sciences”). The further you move away from derivation of scientific theories and laws from mathematical laws, the more assumptions you have to make, and thus the more prone to poor conclusions you are. Climate science is somewhere in the middle of that spectrum.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
I don't disagree with that
But that doesn’t mean that the conclusions that have been reached are to be discarded because of dissenting voices.
Conclusion:
the end or close; final part.
I don’t think we’re close to having conclusions.
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Too bad that's not the correct definition for the word in this context
In this case, it is “a decision reached after careful thought.”
I don't disagree with you there.
The problem is in portraying the conclusions reached as more definitive than they are, and then demanding political action.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
And here
we’ll just have to agree to disagree, because the conversation’s about to turn more political than scientific, and I don’t want to do that today, lol.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
I hope you don't mind if I jump in
but are you saying that the evidence for global warming is highly questionable?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Comments are getting too squished,
but yes, more or less. I’m saying that the degree to which anthropogenic global warming can be proven is considerably lower than the degree to which harder sciences can be proven, and that between such uncertainty and the dominance of the sun’s role in Earth’s climate, political action based on the theory is unwise.
To make an imperfect baseball analogy, railing against those who question the scientific consensus on the matter is like saying that Nick Markakis is definitely a bad defender because the metrics tend to agree about it, and calling scouts and coaches who disagree and those who question whether the methodology has problems relating to OPaCY’s right field wall stupid or unqualified to comment.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
I do not agree that your analogy is accurate
I would say it’s more like scouts and coaches who believe that Jack Morris pitched to the score, which is why his ERA was so high.
I will respond...
When I’m not mobile commenting. That .gif above is killing the SBN mobile app with heinous lag time.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Feb 3, 2012 12:32 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'd hide it, but that won't help you!
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by Eat More Esskay on Feb 3, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
I don't feel like digging shit up either
But I remember watching some stuff and reading some stuff about Barry Bonds blah blah blah bat speed blah blah homers went like 8-10 feet farther and would’ve made like 10-15 of his HRs fly outs had he not been juicing blah blah.
I mean, there’s no doubt during the steroid boomer we were seeing astronomically high homerun numbers and it can’t be coincidence.
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
But is there even definitive proof that he juiced?
I’m not saying I don’t think he did of course.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
cmon....
Like I said I don’t have time or even feel like I have a horse in this race enough to feel like digging shit up… but cmon. I think we all know who was juicing and that it significantly boosted their power numbers.
Sosa, Bonds, Mcgwire didn’t just all of the sudden figure out how to hit the ball harder in those years coming out of the lockout.
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
I’m just saying I don’t think the evidence is in anyway overwhelming – I think the correlation between juicing and improved performance is not as simple as normal player + steroids = better than normal player or good player + steroids = great player, partly because we don’t really know who was taking what and what they were doing to maximize what they were taking and what impact any of it had. Obviously some people turned into monsters and they more than likely were taking something, but it also coincided with baseball understanding what weight training can do and so how much of it was guys finally lifting vs. guys finally lifting AND taking steroids? There are lots of scientists who really question the idea that steroids can improve a baseball player’s performance. I’m not saying I agree – just saying I don’t think it’s overwhelmingly obvious.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
There's also reputable evidence against it
I don’t know if it convinces me or not, because I don’t actually know enough of the underlying science to know how bogus or not some of the claims are (and I honestly don’t care enough to find out), but there you go: http://steroids-and-baseball.com/
yeah I think I've actually read that before
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I mean
I get it. And I know we’re big on advanced stats and higher learning and scientific evidence blah blah around here. But to me, it really is as simple as: Player A admitted he started using steroids around _. Player A’s power stats went through the roof. Player B, C, D also admitted such and the same happened. New rules were put in place. No one approached those power numbers again following that.
I mean, I get we need a complete scientific workout to show the effects of ____ on a guy hitting a baseball, but to me it seems pretty obvious without all that stuff.
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Do we even have that situation though?
I don’t know that we have 4 players that admitted doing steroids just before years of peak performance. The guys with the most absurd performances (MacGwire, Sosa, Bonds, Clemens) have all either denied using steroids at all or said they just used them to get over injuries and they had no impact on their performance.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
What?
Mcgwire definitely admitted it:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4816607
Sosa tested positive and then faked like he couldn’t speak english in front of congress (admission of guilt to me):
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/06/16/sosa.steroids/index.html
Bonds’ trainer went to prison for years just to get out of testifying about Bonds’ steroid abuse (definitely admission of guilt). I say these things tongue and cheek because I know TECHNICALLY they aren’t admissions of guilt just like Casey Anthony was “innocent” but any reasonable person can reasonably deduce what was going on.
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Right...
here’s what big mac said in the article you referenced:
McGwire said in a statement sent to The Associated Press on Monday that he used steroids on and off for nearly a decade. Later Monday, however, he disputed that the drugs gave him more power to hit homers.
“I was given a gift to hit home runs,” he told Bob Costas on MLB Network.
He told Costas that studying pitchers and making his swing shorter led to his increase in home runs and that he could have hit them without PEDs.
“I truly believe so,” McGwire said. “I believe I was given this gift. The only reason I took steroids was for health purposes.”
Sosa tested positive much later in his career than when he was putting up the ridiculous numbers so who knows.
And again I know that all of these guys did steroids just like you do, but to say that they admitted they did it at x time and that coincided with their power surge is not accurate.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
You still need the eye to hit them, but the PEDs sure help with the extra few feet to put em over the wall.
But mostly they just help speed up healing, right?
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
Yeah
I never believed it turned junky players into good or great players. I just thought it turned already great players into record-setting players. Bonds was a legit superstar when he was 80 pounds. I mean, he got HUUUUUGE during the time he was alleged to have taken steroids. And then he got more power. Bonds + steroids + got bigger + hit ball farther. I mean, I don’t need a lot of science to back up this simple equation (in my mind at least… and I could very well be wrong.. but I’m comfortable with my unfounded conclusion)
I mean, look at the guy’s rookie card.
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
If this is in poor taste please delete it
I sometimes truly don’t know what the line is and don’t want to offend anyone.
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
But
he gained all that weight when he finally started lifting, which likely coincided with him taking steroids, but the point is we have no idea what impact the steroids had vs the lifting for the first time, and the slowing of his metabolism allowing him to put on weight, etc.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Oh
I just assumed steroids, helped you lift more/longer/recover faster, making you stronger, making you hit balls farther.
I didn’t think the pill/shot/needle/cream in itself magically made you stronger.
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
And I think they do too
I think we’re talking around each other a bit, but all I’m trying to say is nobody really knows for sure what impact steroids have on actually improving performance.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I just don't get it
What is wrong with the line of thought though.
Steroids help you work out longer/recover faster thereby undoubtedly aiding in you gaining strength. For a power hitter, strength can help you hit the ball farther.
I guess that is the issue then. You can’t argue steroids don’t help you build strength. Is the argument: Does being stronger help you hit the ball farther?
I mean, it won’t improve your hand/eye coordination. But it seems if you ALREADY HAVE insane hand/eye coordination, the extra strength/batspeed would no doubt help those warning track balls get over the fence.
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
It's a perfectly reasonable line of thought
but it hasn’t been proven by any science yet.
I think the one gap there is that strength hasn’t been shown to increase bat speed which is what it’s all about. I think the fastest bat speed ever recorder with Griffey Jr. and he never touched a weight until much later in his career.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I just don't see how strength wouldn't help power.
I understand a baseball swing is so much more about technique than power. But once a guy has perfect or close to perfect technique like Barry Bonds, how could an extra 30-40 pounds of muscle not help him mash a ball farther? I mean, I’m seriously not remotely scientific or have any data, but on the surface how could this NOT be true? And I’m sure this line of thinking irks some people, but I feel like we can still reasonable deduce some seemingly obvious things without a test tube.
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Andrew
I’m not even trying to be argumentative here. But just using quick reasoning or something off the top of your head. What other possible explanation could there be for the Bonds, McGwire, Sosa etc power surge while they admitted they were using and the power number decline after the testing enforcement?
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
there are so many things that go into it
We talk all the time about park effects and how some guys lose power just by going to a pitcher-friendly ballpark. And you’ve seen how differently Coors Field plays before and after the humidor. The 90s, being the “steroid era” also happen to coincide with an expansion era, and we’ve seen in the past how expansion changes the game, too. That’s just three examples. My point is that it’s a fucking complicated mess of a problem, and there’s nothing to suggest that it was only steroids, or primarily steroids, to cause an offensive spike.
Or maybe to put it another way: run scoring dropped way down in the NL between 2010 and 2011 (but not in the AL). Why? What changed there? Or, more to the point, why do we have to assume any one thing changed beyond some natural evolution of the game?
I do highly recommend reading the link posted above, if you’re interested in this.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
understand, too
I’m not interested in being personally right here. I’m interested in knowing the truth of the matter. To some degree (and we can argue over the specific degree), the general thought process on the “steroid era” has been to whitewash the whole thing into “steroids did this, steroids are bad, steroid users are bad”. That removes the nuance and clouds the truth. That’s where I take umbrage.
I don’t doubt steroids have an effect on performance, but I wonder heavily about the magnitude of that performance, and when I go looking for proof of a substantial connection, I have so far come up empty.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
by Andrew_G on Feb 3, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No. He'd still be an asshat.
Maybe I’m a dreamer, but I want to like the guys on my team.
Plus, he’d still either be sucking it up defensively in LF (and not giving a shit about it), or blocking somebody else from getting AB’s at the DH spot.
Also
I don’t know if this was covered in yesterday’s thread, but congratulations on having your projections post tweeted by DD. No idea if he maintains that account himself, but it’s pretty cool if he is.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
I appreciate that
we’ll see how he likes us when we’re not so complimentary of the rest of his offseason
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
If we knew that, sure...
But the problem is that we’ve had aging hitters come to Baltimore before and watched their production fall off a cliff. There’s no way this team gets to .500 this year, unless cast improvements are made in the pitching staff. So, I would say it would be a waste of time and space on the roster.
The team stinks, I don’t see signing Manny as making the team stink any less.
This is an even less likely situation
than having a 100% healthy Peyton Manning leading the Redskins to Super Bowls 47 and 48.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Yeah, fuck him... even in the best case scenario, I don't want him.
He’s someone that doesn’t belong in the exclusive club that is the Orioles family… (trying to keep a straight face)
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
To be completely fair
I don’t want Manny on the Orioles either. I don’t like the ongoing tradition of signing old players with the hopes of trading them for something good, and I don’t think the added wins he would bring in a best case scenario benefit the Orioles long term.
However, I often hear the phrase “I don’t care if a player eats kitten tacos, so long as he gets my team competitive” and I can’t think of anybody more likely to eat kitten tacos than Manny. So I was interested to see if people actually buy into that phrase.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Did that just make anyone else getting hungry?
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Makes me think you're gettin' us all Chipotle today.
I’d like extra guac BTW.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 3, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
How'd this not get any love? I thought it was hysterical.
Is this one of those things that went around a long time ago and I just discovered?
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Pity Rec'd
Actually, I found it humorous as well, I’m just stingy with the recs.
Knowing you
the bubonic plague may be something that went around a long time ago that you just discovered
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How fucking dare you trying to go for the rec steal on my failed attempt!
FORRRR SHAAAAME DAVE H…… FOR SHAAAAAAME!
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe that's why I'm a creationist.
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
I like how you had 2 completely different reactions to my post
and replied twice accordingly
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Why be stingy? lol
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
What is the normal SOP for this? You know I suck at this stuff.
(see I did it again)
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I've not seen that particular image macro before
But tacocat as a plaindrome has been known to me since like 2004 when I first started playing Kingdom of Loathing.
Heh, I remember Kingdom of Loathing.
I got bored of it after I’d done like three ascensions as every class. Lots of clever jokes though. Plus I liked it from the start, with the Toot Oriole.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 3, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
I still play it on and off
I’m just entering a “Not playing” period right now. I mainly play it for the clever writing and jokes. Plus I love listening to their podcasts. Jick in particularly cracks me up constantly. I can’t get through a podcast without laughing hysterically at at least one thing he says.
It's not that, really.
For example, Luke Scott, who, while not at the level of kitten tacos, is a guy I have a pretty hard time stomaching on a personal level. I thought his shit talking was an embarrassment to the organization. But he showed up. And he tried. He loves baseball, and he played hard, even if he sucked a lot of the time. So I can tolerate that guy and a lot of other bs to win games.
But Manny doesn’t play hard, and he doesn’t care about anything but Manny. And that I cannot tolerate, especially not for his present day weak ass.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
by killertomato on Feb 3, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Re: the “kitten taco” thing…I’m hoping I can use this comparison without starting the 10 millionth Michael Vick arguement on Camdenchat…I always said the same thing (about both the O’s and the Eagles, my favorite NFL team). I want to think the guys on my teams are good people, but after years of frustration I’m much more willing to tolerate some talented bad people. That said, it was hard to accept the signing of Michael Vick.
I do love watching him play and Vick absolutely makes the Eagles more fun to root for…because he’s basically the reason they were competitive last year and even watchably interesting this year. W/o him, they’re a bad team.
I would love to just be able to talk about football and root for my team w/o talking about dog fighting, but at least from a sports perspective he brings value.
The Orioles are terrible with or without Manny. There is a zero percent chance that he is part of the next good Orioles team, so why even give him at bats from someone who might, even if the chance is remote, be part of the next good Oriole team.
The level of baggage Manny has or level of negative publicity he’d bring isn’t comparable to Vick, but Manny’s not just some harmless steroid user and lollygagger, he’s a wife-beater. Not as shocking or large-scale as running your own illegal animal fighting ring but a real crime and not just a baseball crime. He’s a bad guy with no upside. Keep him away from OPACY.
(I’ll admit that I might not feel as strongly if I didn’t dislike Ramirez as a former Red Sock, too. I will also admit that I love kittens and I love tacos.)
If signing Manny Ramirez would actually make the Orioles competitive
Then I’d be all for it. But we all know that he won’t, even if he puts up the line up proposed above (too lazy to scroll up). And to top it off he’s a giant jerk and a giant baby.
I figure if we even entertained a thought of getting Manny, we shouldn't have let Luke go.
More money, sure, but less of a headache and doesn’t give up.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
I wouldn't
League Minimum, everything else would be incentives.
Not really
DH don’t bring much on deadline deals. Maybe he could bring a 26 year old reliever in July. MacPhail couldn’t move Huff when he had his stellar year for anything good.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
In Cuba, Alfredo Despaigne has already 17 HR's and 50 RBI's in 44 games!
GoodBye Cespedes! Your best friend is going after you!
So I posted that thing a while ago about that awesome company with the 8 bit NFL logos
thought I’d point out that they are coming out with a Redskins design. It’s only for sale on Jackthreads right now (which you might need an invite to sign up for) and in sweatshirt form, but I thought I’d post the image for you.
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i would love a kansas city t shirt..
heads over to Jackthreads
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by Parkinglotninja on Feb 3, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
apparently they dont exist.
Now i has a sad.
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by Parkinglotninja on Feb 3, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
jumping on this
thank you, sir….
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Wait!
Buy it through my invite! I’ll get a $10 credit if 10 people do so.
I won’t get 10 people, but I just saw that and I figure why not?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
here's the link (if it's not too late)
http://www.jackthreads.com/invite/daveh873
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Hey guys
Anyone want to buy some stuff off my Amway account? It’s not THAAAAAT overpriced!
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Amway?
Hell man, I just bought one of these tees for 26 bucks. They’re 17 on this site. I’m just trying to recoup my money!
Honestly I didn’t even see the promotion til second glance. The guys that run the company (8 Bit Apparel) are really cool though, and helped me get my shirt exchanged when the first one didnt fit in time for a concert I was playing, so I want them to get as much business as possible. Their stuff is awesome.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'm just joking brah... if there is a Ravens one, I'll buy.
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by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
I'll be sure to let everyone know when the helmet logo is out
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I don't know if it's been brought up on here yet,
but it’s the new Marlins stadium, what do you guys think?
http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/marlins/files/2012/02/VIEW.jpg
What up?
Yeah, I was trying to figure what that was supposed to be
I like how it looks like they’ve incorporated the skyline of the city
What up?
I'm the only one in the history of the universe
that doesn’t hate the centerfield thing. I think it’s pretty fun. and I know most people don’t like the word “fun” in this context. It’s like calling a professional portrait of your cat snookums, “fun”
Tommy hunter still sucks!
It's not that I don't like it
I just don’t know what it is, I’ve kind of warmed up to it after looking at it for a while.
What up?
I see that
they went with trompe l’oeil for the dome. Good choice.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
In other news,
anyone hear about this? It sounds like an annoying concept but anything with 24-40 taps of local beer like Stillwater is fine by me.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
So the more people by one beer, the more the price goes up relative to the other beers in the bar?
I think it sounds kinda fun, it encourages people to try lesser known beers that they otherwise wouldn’t
damn
WW seems to take a lot of abuse. Can’t we just make a Josh Hamilton joke here or sometrhing?
WW seems to take a lot of abuse. Can’t we just make aJosh HamiltonMiguel Cabrera joke here or sometrhing?
ftfy
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by Parkinglotninja on Feb 3, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
damn my first attempt at FTFY
and i botched it.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Feb 3, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Alcoholism is much less funy
when the afflicted is making a good faith effort to help himself out of it.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
ehhh
making fun of a community member who likes to call himself out about stuff = acceptable and encouraged
making fun of a guy struggling with an alcohol abuse problem = treading in to some murky territory
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Agreed.
Sounds like the guy is really struggling with it and has been struggling with it for years. This is not like the Charlie Sheen episode where he’s running around claiming he has tiger’s blood, but a guy who might really be struggling to keep a disease under control. So, I can’t really find it funny, just sad.
i saw it late last night
i figured that’s why he brought it up
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I curious as to why everyone becomes so defensive of JH when he has his very public relapses
But when Milton Bradley has an episode, he just gets fired and hated. I mean, would anyone be defending Elliot Spitzer if he was caught going into a stip club?
Alcoholism and Drug Addiction is different from just being an asshole
as far as I know, neither Bradley or Spitzer has ever been diagnosed with anything. If either was actively seeking help to address their issues, they’d be more sympathetic
by kba26 on Feb 3, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bradley hasn't been diagnosed?
I thought he was. My bad.
by dan o'hare on Feb 3, 2012 10:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
apparently
the more popular a beer is, the more the price goes down:
http://www.marketplace.org/topics/life/what-if-beer-were-commodity-bar
I saw this on Reddit
apparently there’s a similar place in DC (among other places). You can see “real-time price quotes” on their website:
Personally I just don’t see the point.
the what now?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Feb 3, 2012 9:53 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Theres a new progam open for the next few months, i think if you're eligible they contact you directly
if you have government student loans held by both a private lender and directly by the federal government, where you can consolidate all the privately-held loans and then transfer the consolidated loan to the government servicer. You get a .25% rate reduction in the process.
Getting the keys to my new house today.
I met the realtor there a few days ago and got a call today that it was mine. When we were walking through i found a box of old orioles cards in the basement. I think it was a sign. This house was detined to be mine. Planning my man cave basement setup now.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Feb 3, 2012 9:51 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Congrats.
Definitely a good omen. Here’s a house-warming rec for you.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
Nope.
Unfortunately they werent that old.
but i did get a sweet melvin mora before his 8 kids and self entitlement issues card!
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Feb 3, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
It seems like baseball cards would have stopped looking so old by the time Melmo was in an O's uniform.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 3, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
nice
Thanks for doing your part to help the economy!
Probably worth it just for the coupon
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Amazing
Now i wonder what they mean by shuttle. Is there a standard route? Do they pick up more than one girl at a time?
That would be kinda awkward.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 3, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Derek Jeter should use this.
he could get rewards points probably.
by IggesRule13 on Feb 3, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You think he could get a weather balloon with them?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
You got a weather ballon with points!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 3, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I'm finding the typo funny
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Since we were talking about this somewhat yesterday
for those of you who do invest in the stock market, how did you get started and what did it take for you to get comfortable with it?
I started with mutual funds
then moved to index funds, then ETFs, and then individual stocks. I still only put money in individual stocks that I consider “gambling money” – money that I don’t need for any expenses even in an emergency.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'm developing an itch to start playing around with it
but it unfortunately doesn’t make sense to invest anything until i get my credit cards paid off, so i’m trying to use the next few months to educate myself as much as i can
My dad made me read some books when I was in high school and college
that helped. I really would recommend only investing in individual stocks with throw away money though since they are so volatile. Max your work retirement account, max a roth IRA, build up an emergency fund of 4-6 months of living expenses, then play around with some stocks – that’s my approach.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Thats probably the plan
though I’m likely going to fill the time between paying off my credit cards and when my 401k match kicks in with buying a lot of IBM stock as the backbone of an individual stock portfolio, since i can buy it at a discount
Oh yeah that definitely makes sense
I haven’t looked at IBM’s stock in years, but I assume it’s pretty stable.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I wish i would have had the money to get into it sooner, they've been killing it recently (I think)
its up 240% from its 2008 low, and 50% from where it was before it crashed.
wow had no idea
although the 2008 low was a great time to buy almost any stocks. When there’s blood in the streets and all that.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Seriously...
It really doesn’t matter what you bought in 2008, you should’ve had a doubler. A rising tide lifts all boats.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I had 1,000 shares of AAPL when I was in Iraq in 2007
It was $80 a share then. It went down $5 and I just got out of it. Not a day goes buy I don’t literally smack myself in the balls because of that…. literally.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Just grab a few shares of Berkshire and call it a day man.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Until the old man kicks...
Seriously though, if you have the stomach for it isn’t that an obvious long term short? It’s going to fall off a cliff when he dies.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
LOL, I was just kidding about it.
I couldn’t buy one share of his preferred stock at the moment.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but anybody can buy/short the B shares
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Well, you got what I was referring to.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
seriously though
he’s not going to live another 10 years with his coke/steak diet – how is it not an attractive short?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I've got my own problems
You ever been married to a stock that has just screwed you over and over again and you swear it’s gonna make it’s big move one day. SIGM is that stock for me. First stock I ever bought at $7 a share… I was still buying 3-4 years later hand over fist at $73 a share. And I kept buying shares the whole way back down to $7. That stock alone has cost me well over 50K. And even though when I eventually walked away from it, I can’t stop checking it all time time and itchy to get back in. No debt, cash, emerging technology. The damn CEO is the biggest douche alive though. Thing Trahn is the shadiest mofo on earth and he’s run the company’s financials into the ground at every turn. Shareholders hate the man.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
haha
I haven’t been buying individual stocks long enough to have anything like that just yet although I did buy a clean tech company all the way into bankruptcy last year convinced the whole time that it was going to rebound. lol
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
APEI is my other stock I'm huge on.
I like it to double in the next couple years. I could go into a long summary why but if you feel like it you can take a peak at it yourself. If you’re on Facebook, a few stock buddies of mine have a research group (probably just 5 of us) where we shoot the shit about some different investment ideas. Pretty knowledgeable guys too.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
or,
you can skip the stock market and invest in real estate.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Not sure real estate in upstate NY is such a great investment...
But depending on the market sure – great interest rates these days. We just refinanced at 3.75 for a 30 year fixed. Amazing.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'm sure there are some other places where it makes sense too
with interest rates this low it doesn’t take a ton of appreciation to make it a good investment, especially with how volatile the stock market has been.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
They're not making any more of it...
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Some young Cuban prospects begun to play in the Serie Nacional!
OF-Yunior Valiente, RHP-Yosibel Castillo, 1B/OF Guillermo Aviles! OF Yasiel Puig is still suspended.
Sports fan question of the day:
(Yeah, everyone hates the NBA blah blah blah… but just pretend it’s any sport)
My wife was bugging me about who my favorite Non-Wizard was the other day and I told her it was between Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin. She kept suspiciously harassing me about it to pick one. I said Derrick Rose. I later see her on some sports memorabilia website and ask her what she’s doing. She quickly clicks out. I was like “are you buying me a Derrick Rose jersey or something” and she gets all sad that I busted her.
In any case, I told her not to because I would never wear another teams jersey or t-shirt or anything for that matter. Is this standard? Or am I being over-the-top. I think I have a Ryan Howard t-shirt someone gave me forever ago I’ll wear from time to time but it’s not out of any kind of loyalty to him whatsoever as it would be wearing a D. Rose jersey.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 11:06 AM EST reply actions
I told her not to because I would never wear another teams jersey or t-shirt or anything for that matter.
Well, besides your Tebow pajamas
Chuck Norris wears Tebow pajamas to bed
Did anyone catch him on Jimmy Fallon the other night. It was a horrifically boring interview. Very awkward and not funny at all.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
"Very awkward and not funny at all."
So it involved Jimmy Fallon?
by Holymittens on Feb 3, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but this is just a horrible interview...
Tebow seems so uncomfortable
http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/tim-tebow-2112/1382576
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Anything funny with Jimmy Fallon has a 98% probability that it's not because of him.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
unlwess he's impersonating neal young
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I'm with you on that one, man.
I don’t think I could wear another team’s jersey or shirt or whatever.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 3, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
I usually would hold fast to this rule, however
I think if you’re visiting a generally neutral third party on a lark, it’s okay. I went to a phillies game with a friend of mine, who is a monstrous phillies fan. I bought a generic shirt, and wore it. But I kept the O’s hat on. I didn’t feel like a traitor.
because it just does
I’m not ever going to wear a non-Orioles MLB jersey or a non-Ravens NFL Jersey. We can talk semantics about kitschy minor league jerseys and whatnot, but when it comes to MLB and the NFL no way I’m supporting any other team.
This.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 3, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I'll never wear another team's jersey
Unless it is ironically. Like wearing a Ryan Leaf Cowboys jersey or something.
Yea...unlikely I'd wear a jersey from another team.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 3, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
i agree with you for the most part
the only time i would stray from that is if one of my favorite college players goes to a team that isn’t a direct rival of my NFL/MLB team, or if there is a player i just really like
in high school i got a Jason Williams jersey (the White Chocolate version, not the DUI version) that i still have in my closet but never wear
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
This
I have a Ravens Ray Rice jersey, but that’s only because he’s my fave college player of all time, and because I do like the Ravens. I rarely wear it though (usually stick to the Rutgers Rice jersey). I also own a Peyton Indy jersey, but I got it for free in a shipping error. I’d also get an old Archie Manning Saints jersey to wear for Saints games with my fiance, but that’s about it. I will never own a non-O’s jersey though. Same goes for NHL.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
If you're somebody that wears jerseys a lot, then maybe
But I only wear jerseys on gameday. And the only games that I really give a shit about are the ones where Baltimore is playing. I just have no reason to have another player’s jersey.
by nattybroh on Feb 3, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yes sir
I don’t even have an O’s jersey (too much $$$), but have lots of t-shirts/hats/hoodies. I’ve been thinking about buying an Andino jersey lately though.
I've got an autographed Luuuuuuuuke I used to wear to games.
Guess I gotta update my gear for this season. I’m not gonna be one of those guys rocking a Tejada jersey three years too late. I guess “Britton” makes the most sense at this point.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I still rock the Bedard jersey
And why not?
Although I wore it to a Red Sox game at OPACY where Bedard was pitching for the Sox and some smarmy middle-aged Sox fan wearing a button-down collared shirt asked me why I would have a Bedard Orioles jersey made. Did I just really like Bedard? He was genuinely clueless that Bedard had once been an Oriole. It was nice though because a couple of other Sox fans totally backed me up and basically thought the guy was an idiot.
This
I so wish I had a Hoiles, Alomar, Anderson, or Surhoff jersey. Hell, I’d even rock Palmeiro.
I do have an old authentic Mussina jersey, but it’s such a weird cut I never wear it. Wish I could though, because it’s sweet.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I just saw somebody walking around DC with one of those Markakis replica BP jerseys.
I felt an uncontrollable rage.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
why?
Did you miss out on the promotion because you were going with a group of people and, even though you prepared yourself to get to the game early so you would certainly be near the front of the line to enter the ballpark, AND even though you made sure everyone in the group knew about the promotion and how much it meant to you, the one person who is ALWAYS the last one out the door STILL found a way to make you late, but you didn’t go on ahead because it would be impolite?
Not that I’m bitter or anything.
I missed out on the promotion because the asshole in front of me grabbed a whole handful of them.
Turned out they were the last few.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I wanted to punch that asshole.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I'm gonna go with no on that one.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Come on, I rarely pull it out
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
oh, oh, oh,
TWSS right?
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 3, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I'm well aware of that.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 3, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I did, too.
Got stuck in some awful traffic on the way to the light rail.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Can said asshole be told to speed the fuck up if they wanna stay vertical?
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
said person was very dismissive of pleas
and is not a sports person. Was attending for social aspect and didn’t understand/care about showing up on time to receive promotional items. Lesson: learned.
I'm wearing non-Orioles baseball stuff right now
I don’t see a problem with branching out
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
That's one thing.
A jersey is another. Those things are what…$150+?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 3, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh, in that case
no way I’m laying that much cash out for a Justin Verlander replica (and he’d be the guy I’d do it for if I did).
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
If my head weren't so damn big
I’d wear different caps during the postseason to show my support for a certain team (or just to annoy/offset the Yankee/Red Sox fans around this area).
I think it also depends on if you are truly a fan of baseball or just of a team
Me, I’m love baseball and can watch any game, but for me to really enjoy a game on TV it’s gotta be the O’s or a direct rival I can root for to lose. So I’m not about to go buy Prince Fielder jersey just because I think he’s an awesome player.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Well if it's the Expos...
I guess I can tolerate it… I hear they are due for a breakout year.
I'm with you
would never wear another team’s jersey or t-shirt by choice.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I"m not much of a jersey wearer anyways
but I don’t think I"d have much problem if there was a player I really really liked on another team. When I was a kid I used to like the red sox from family connections and even up into 2004 I had a red sox jacket that I’d wear when they were in the playoffs and the O’s were golfing. I never rooted for the red sox to beat the orioles, and after 2004 the sox fans got really annoying to me so I certainly hate them now, but I could see the same thing happening with a different team.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
confession
I actively and passionately rooted for the Red Sox during the 2004 postseason. What a difference a few years make.
i did too!
they were far less douchey then
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
WHAT?
The +3 to this is making cringe.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 3, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
I have a Shawne Merriman Chargers jersey
that I bought when I lived in San Diego (I believe his rookie year). I only bought it because he played at UMD and I don’t think I’ve worn it since I moved out of there.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Feb 3, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting stuff from DD on Kim via Steve M
some stuff that just stuck out for me.
But Duquette said there is a decent chance that Kim could start the 2012 season with a full-season club like Single-A Delmarva.
“Because it’s the first time we have signed a Korean player, we need to be sensitive to some of the cultural changes that the player will experience,” he said. "So we’re in the process of putting together a player development program for the kids that we sign out of Korea and that should help the Korean players become acclimated.
“We’re going to be signing the most talented players that we can from all over the world to come help the Orioles. We need to bring our team back through pitching and with Kim, we have a quality pitcher to get into the organization. With good player development, which is something we will depend on to rebuild our team, we should be able to make an impact with signings like this,” he said.
i see your point
but it is interesting that he feels the talented underachievers might still have that potential and he’s not just giving up without trying something that was so blatantly obvious.
well
He won’t find any Korean BBQ on the Eastern Shore, but there’s always Em-ings!
there's probably some good random shack
for kim-chee and bipimbop
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
There's a Korean Baptist church with walking distance of the stadium
Seriously.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
But did you REALLY expect one in Salisbury?
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I dunno, why not
this is still the East Coast, after all. It’s not like we’re in rural texas 500 miles away from everything.
I'm a good 100+ from anything, according to you guys
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Really Baptist?
Or a front for Moon the Loon?
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
Really Baptist
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Maybe they feel right at home on a peninsula.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 3, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
But is there Korean BBQ?
Because that may be just the nudge I need to move back home…
Get out your torches
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:49 PM EST reply actions
The Nats also signed Edwin Jackson.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
by NSOsFan on Feb 3, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I hear Weird Al's parents died, too
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
I feel bad for him
hope he’s doing okay, getting help and so on.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I do too... I love the guy
Read his book and everything. Hate how the vultures love to swarm when a good man who has been open about his problems and trying hard to beat these addictions stumbles.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
To expect a sportswriter NOT to be a supreme douche...
Well that’s a bit like the frog who expected the scorpion NOT to sting him as they crossed the river.
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
But in all seriousness, we shouldn't expect the dude to be perfect since recovery.
People can be weak; it’s the strongest of us that can get back up.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
that's what makes it worse...
Don’t whan to get into a debate about Zoroaster or anything, but this whole, “it will destroy you if you ever smell it” mentality is IMO what makes people fall so hard when they fall…The issue probably isn’t with alcohol but with pressure. And the idea of good vs evil…
Dave Mustaine went to rehab FIFTEEN TIMES before he finally got clean
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Sorry, that's the dude from Megadeth
Forgot not all any of you will know who that is.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
just in case you missed the reference
Arsenio Hall called Dave Mustaine Mega Dave on his show back in the early 90s. You can find the youtube clip here. It’s hilarious because as soon as Hall says Mega Dave, Mustaines gives this WTF look that is classic.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
He was in Metallica before they blew up!
I know! I know!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Forgot not any?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Dude, it's Friday!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
please
the guy had a drink and he will have hundreds of people looking out for him to make sure he’s okay. I think he’ll pull through.
Has anyone you ever loved been an addict?
I’m not trying to start a big thing but just because he’s rich and has a lot of people around him doesn’t mean he’ll just be fine. I hope he will be.
no
There’s no guarantee any of us will ever be fine. But he has a pretty good support system around him, and I was refering to the “get out your torches” comment when I said “please” since just about everyone in the world will be willing to jump in his corner and defend him…
no worries at all
I rarely make a consise point, and you helped me to prove my point :)
haha yeah.
so cute with their problem whereby fans of another team refer to the away park as if it were a home park. I’m so glad we don’t have to deal with that.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Yea...we just don't have anyone at all.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Acknowledging it will just make it worse.
Also, no one WANTS the Nats’ park.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
Go ahead and...
I was on a three hour web-ex training session yesterday with a guy who prefaced every imperative statement with some variation on this phrase. Instead of “Click on the advance button” it was “Go ahead and click on the advance button.” Or “We’re going to go ahead and take a ten minute break.” He must have said this 100 times over the course of the call.
Is this a regional thing? The guy was in Indiana. I’ve got another two hour call with him in an hour and it’s doing my head in thinking about it.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
Maybe
if you are Roger Sterling. I have less alcohol in my office than you might think.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
I've got to re-watch a few episodes
so I can remember what the hell was going on. I’m really curious to see what year it’s going to be. The actress that plays Sally probably has kids of her own at this point.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
I've been guilty of that
I think my thought process is that it makes things more informal, so it’s not like I’m curtly shouting commands at you.
That makes sense.
So maybe it is regional, because in New England curtly shouting commands is basically a sacrament.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
Pretty sure I do this a lot.
I hope I haven’t been contributing to people wanting to bash their heads against a desk.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 3, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh.
It’s already started. Right now we are going ahead and waiting for everyone to come on the line.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
I just remembered the source of this.
Whenever I say “go ahead and (whatever)” it’s because I am making fun of the boss from Office Space.
Presumably, your conference call person is using the phrase without irony, of course.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 3, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Manny Ramirez, steroids, and global warming ...
I smell a 2000 comment day!
In other news, the Nationals signed somebody yesterday. Edward Johnson, I think.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
Stacey
You’d hate Deadwood. I’ve heard the “C word” more times in the first 6 episodes than in the first 28 years of my life combined…. literally.
Will work for Recs.
You don't watch a lot of British shows, do you?
I think they use that word more than “the”
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
I was Rutger Hauer.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
by NSOsFan on Feb 3, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
one of the thing that makes the show great
milch said there ws all kinds of everyday cursing back then. only problem was, it was “gol-danged” and stuff like that. so he updated the cursing vocabulary.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
In actual not-Edwin-Jackson-related breaking sports news
Jim Calhoun is taking an indefinite leave of absence from UConn for medical issues
I don't think it actually happened.
We’re usually on top of all the signings and whatnot here and since nobody posted it, I don’t think it happened.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
No being serious
I don’t recall hearing about this guy until just recently. He just never hit my radar.
I remember him as a Dodger
I would always take him in fantasy (salary cap league) because I was certain he was gonna be awesome and he was cheap as hell. Never worked out.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I think is why I could care less about not getting him
Could he be a decent number 3 guy? Perhaps. But not the Number 1 or 2 that we deperately need.
The popcorn you are eating has been pissed in. Film at eleven.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
Loser mentality.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Feb 3, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
This made me laugh really hard.
So I had to look up the origin of it. Is the movie any good? I’d never heard of it.
First one put out by the same guys that made Airplane, etc etc
It’s bad in some spots, but for the most part it’s pretty funny.
Guard number one is a senior on Klahn’s mountain, and aspires to be a research chemist. Welcome, please, Hung Well! Guard number two is a real skating buff. A warm welcome for Long Wang! Traveling comes naturally to guard number three, as he’s a licensed airplane pilot. Welcome, please, Enormous Genitals!
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
wow, The Daily Show did a great bit about the Florida Welfare Drug Testing
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
and Edwin Jackson signed.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Just checked it out.
It’s amazing how they can so often clarify an issue so perfectly.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Where were you last night mofo?
I loved the bit about it resulting in a $200k loss for tax payers.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
And only 2% of people failed, compared to the estimated 9% of people in the general population who use drugs.
Trying to get the state rep. and Rick Scott to pee in a cup was golden.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 3, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
All those lazy druggy poor people
who’d rather be spending government checks on drugs than get a real job.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I can't stand all these Navy veterans trying to get us to pay for their drug habits!
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 3, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
posting question
I know I’m new hear and already pissed off a few people (truly sorry about that), but I love it here and just being able to talk about the orioles (esp since my one oriole fan friend at work quit). My question: can anyone write fan posts, or do you have to be here a while first. Are there possibly rules that I ignored? Again, sorry if I’m being a pain.
by dan o'hare on Feb 3, 2012 5:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Post away...
Just proof it for spelling, grammar, etc. They should be more than just an extended comment. But hey, other than that, let’s ee what you have to say!
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
check the community guidelines as well
there are a few thoughts about fanposts there.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
thank you
Very glad I read that. I probably should have read that before. But it helps alot.
Write one!
Think it out, make it good, don’t fuck up your grammar. And seriously, make it thoughtful, not just “we shud of signed prince feilder and alber puhols becaus angelos is a greedy pig.”
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Alright. I'll come up with something else then
by dan o'hare on Feb 3, 2012 5:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Aaaaaaaaannnnnnd green.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Feb 3, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
See, conservatives like to go green too!
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
We stop our big redneck trucks for squirrels too!
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Feb 3, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Did you miss that conversation?
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Feb 3, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know brah... squirrel stew is pretty tasty.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Related reading
http://grist.org/animals/al-rodente-could-squirrel-meat-come-back-into-vogue/
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
You don't want tire treads on it though
much better to borrow Duck’s .22
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Seriously though
we shud have. red my next fanpost abut y I am no longar a Orioles fan becuse we didnot sing Fielder. I am goiin to become a whitesox fan noW!
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 3, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
I think you mean
“shud of” not “shud have.” I’m sorry, it’s a pet peeve of mine.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
if it helps
Strange Brew is a top 20 movie all time in my book…then again, I’m a shakespeare fan…
glad you're here bro!
And anyone can write a fanpost.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I think it's Tez
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Did Tez leave???
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 3, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think I missed it, and z'd over it, but assumed he wouldn't actually leave.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 3, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, he straight up J-popped it too. Go find it.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
woah, yeah.
that is always so weird when people just dip out. I could never imagine a situation where I forced myself to leave CC. Do you think he still reads the stuff or does he somehow avoid coming to CC everyday?
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 3, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
weird
but I get it. It’s obnoxious to be singled out for doing what half the commenters are doing. Or to be chastised for continuing a joke you had no idea had become sensitive simply because you can’t read every single comment every single day. Most days, I don’t even open the thread. I get home in the evening and it’s 600, 800, 1500 comments… fts. We don’t all have desk jobs where we don’t have to do any actual work.
/rant
He appears to have taken his ball to Testudo Times, fwiw.
I think I caused it.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 4, 2012 1:35 AM EST up reply actions
I think a lot of us caused it
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
it was kinda ugly. One of my first days here.
and I have to admit, it gave me pause.
Yeah brah, he took his ball and went home.
Or to b….
nevermind.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Inappropriate joke
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Feb 3, 2012 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know, I regretted it as I was hitting post.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Something, something
duck is old.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Feb 3, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
He'll be back.
I sent him an email encouraging him to come back.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
good...
he’s a good egg.
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
He like's to give me a hard time and thats ok , he was/is a plus for this site
Hope he make’s it back , but i know i can count on the rest of you to pick up the slack ! .
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Feb 3, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you
Now thing’s are better , have a good night CC :-)
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Feb 3, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
It's your mom's fault... figuratively
Ok, I’ll never make another B.M. joke again. Promise. Don’t even chide me because I get it and I’m done.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
he said he's taking a break. he'll be back.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I like you... and Tez...
It was nice of you to email him. I thought he was a likable member of the community.
Will work for Recs.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 3, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
thanks
I’ll work on it this weekend if I can get the time. I don’t want to dissapoint, even if I know you all won’t like it in the end…
And not to start another lengthy debate...
but THIS is what teachers are up against in my county. One of the local blogs thinks we can fix our education budget in the county by firing half the teachers.
Needless to say, they aren’t exactly allowing dissenting opinions to be posted.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Honestly, with a banner like this
I"m all for anything this website has to say
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Start reading it
I think you’ll think differently
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Although I think they need a new copy editor.
My favorite parts are when they use hyphens because their comma key must be broken, the insane run-on sentences, “501 less teachers,” this whole sentence,
“The current salary of a school teacher is very close to what a Federal employed Engineer would be making if you adjust for the fact that the Engineer is obligated to work 1940 hours verses a school teacher 1488 hours.”and some other things.
I also love this accusation which I’m sure is backed by evidence that they just forgot to share,
As most people know – The Daily Times staff is heavily laced with contributors that have strong affiliations and ties with the Board of Education – thus their agenda is to prop-up and syphon off as much taxpayers money as the public will allow them.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Also,
their insistence on a 20:1 or greater teacher:student ratio without any consideration to special needs or administration is nice. So is their implication that having summers off means teaching is not a real job and teachers are overpaid.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
All those teachers living in mansions...
… using tax payer money to get high!
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 3, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
I also don't think anyone should take any life lessons from a guy named "Beezer"
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
That's a gal
The main guy, wow, he’s a piece of work.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
by duck on Feb 3, 2012 6:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
"What you got against me?"
Signed,
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I have never flipped feelings
on a commercial so quick from positive to negative, as when I saw Jay Leno swoop in on the Jerry Seinfeld Acura commercial. I really don’t like that guy.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
Did anyone see Real Time last week?
Mark Foley showed up, i totally forgot about him. Watching Maher talk to Hermain Cain was pretty funny as well.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
fireable offense if DD actually did that
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 3, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
noooooooooooo....
My hope here is that they have no intention of keeping him on the team, and are just going to trade him for a prospect when he comes off suspension…
So on MASN
website they have a poll of who is believed to be our opening day starter. Matusz is second in votes. Really?
You can believe the worst about MASN website visitors and they still might disappoint you.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 3, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
Any photoshoppers or shirt printers?
So I’ve never used any form of photoshop until now. I just couldn’t resist the thought of the orioles signing a guy named tsuyoshi (pronounced so-yoshi for those who struggle with names like i do).
So i immediately thought of Yoshi from Mario and was like, that NEEDS to be a t-shirt. So i google imaged yoshi and found the perfect picture and then took a shot a photoshop. here is what i have so far.
if you are a pro photoshopper (like a lot of internet users are these days) or have connections with protectthisyard.com or any other Baltimore affiliated t-shirt printers, i would TOTALY buy this shirt if it were made available.
Cant decide if it should read “Tsuyoshi” or “That’s Tsuyoshi”
also think it would look better if the shirt were black…
by Jokes & Burns on Feb 3, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha, awesome.
Just to let you know, though, Japanese “tsu” isn’t pronounced “so”; it’s pronounced pretty much how it looks.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
meh
i’m not very good with english names, let alone names of languages i don’t speak…. it sounded like “so yoshi” when i was watching his introduction to the press. still pretty cool shirt though.
by Jokes & Burns on Feb 4, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
you could make it at spreadshirt.com
that’s where our shirts are made….
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
yeah i guess there could be some copyright problems that people would run into. didn’t really think about that aspect. i was too excited about sharing my idea.
by Jokes & Burns on Feb 4, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
You'd have to mirror the image as well
since Wada is a lefty
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
yeah thats where the call for photoshoppers came to play. this was my first attempt at it.
by Jokes & Burns on Feb 4, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
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