Monday Bird Droppings
by j.q. higgins on Feb 6, 2012 7:53 AM EST
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Hope everyone had a joyous Super Sunday and is weathering their Monday in a dignified fashion. Wait, was I just talking about the Super Bowl and dignity in the same sentence? Again? Yeesh.
A's, Orioles may have interest in Koji Uehara - MLB - Sporting News DD, don't let Brad Pitt outfox you on this one!
2012 projections: top 10 catchers | HardballTalk Nice offensive bump predicted for Matt Wieters here. Considered one of the best BEFORE factoring in for defense.
Camden Depot: What does Manny Ramirez offer the Orioles? Crawdaddy tries to sift through the garbage and make sense of it all.
On this day in 1895, Babe Ruth was born in Baltimore.
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I really, really hope that Jeremy Guthrie isn't headed to arbitration
by perpetualstudent on Feb 6, 2012 8:26 AM EST reply actions
wow, that news is literally five minutes old
MLB Trade Rumors repeating Connolly’s story.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/02/rockies-close-to-acquiring-jeremy-guthrie.html
Mother !@@##@$!
We trade away our most reliable consistent, fan favorite pitcher for an less reliable starter and a closer?
Why "hopefully JJ to start?"
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Because then I could watch a starter pitch
who I like. His arm will prolly fall off if he becomes a starter though.
Maybe this means a Kevin Gregg trade is in the works?
Or now we have two guys we can cut when we sign Manny Ramirez.
That would be a tough one for me to get over
I’d do it but I’d cry into my hotdog and natty boh.
Given the track record...
Expect Manny to be signed soon, and Adam Jones and Markakis to be traded for a Garrett Atkins type…
I think they should just fucking do it
why not? none of it seems like its ever going to matter.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Just personal preference
ZERO “baseball thinking.” But you are right. the O’s could have a top 5 offense and still lose 90 games because the pitchers and the defense are terrible.
Guys, I think they've finally broke AndrewG
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 6, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Is this like Star Trek...
… do we now increment and upgrade to Andrew_H?
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe it's Andrew_G 2.0
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
by duck on Feb 6, 2012 10:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
wow, I really hope the kids are ready to step up
Mentoring might be overrated, but 200 IP isn’t.
by perpetualstudent on Feb 6, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions
So this trade benefits the O's in what way?
Just to add more candidates to the bullpen possibilities?
downgrade the rotation to upgrade the bullpen?
all the while not picking up years or prospects, and saving around 2 million bucks.
Sure, that makes a TON of sense.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Seriously...
I clicked on the link to see what prospects we would be getting… but instead I saw two clones of the 10 other pitchers we signed this offseason.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
well put
We got too many of these guys allready
Are you for or against it? I read this as sarcasm.
Besides saving some money, it seems to make the team worse unless hamel is on the upswing…
Unless there's some part of the deal that's gone unreported
I don’t like it. I don’t necessarily hate it, since I don’t know Gut’s trade value as much as the front office types do. I would hope that if some team was offering prospects for him, they’d take it. Still, as it is, they don’t look like a better Orioles team today than they did yesterday. They could be slightly worse even.
Then again, this is the most recent in a long series of trades where the assets the Orioles give off are either fringe prospects or established guys with no prospects coming back. It feels a lot like Koji for Hunter/Davis (which I don’t and didn’t like either). It would be easy to make a case that the Orioles are in a quixotic “win-now” mode. ANd you know what the most foolish thing about Quixote tilting at windmills was? The windmills defeated him, easily.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
by Andrew_G on Feb 6, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Quixote aside
How does this help us in any quest. We traded a Quixote for 2 Sanchos…this sucks.
Unless, as you say, something isn’t being reported…
Maybe MLBTraderumors has it wrong...
…and instead of receiving Jason Hammel, it’s actually a convoluted three way trade with the Rox and the Phillies, and the O’s are getting Cole Hamels.
this looks even worse to me than the Koji trade
and it’s not even close. At least davis/hunter are youngish with some upside
yeah, the Koji trade was still getting a starter and a position player ib their 20s
for a 36 year old reliever. Good trade. This? Makes no sense.
Do not like at all
What is DD’s obsession with stockpiling the most AAAA pitching talent in the majors???
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 6, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
Hammel is a starter
pitched 170 innings. He’ll eat innings and he has a pretty good ground ball % so that could help in Camden Yards.
indeed...
don’t know what was up last year, but he was worth 3.9 WAR in 2009 and 2010 (each year, not total).
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Feb 6, 2012 9:13 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
um...yeah, I'm sure you all read it but
“With the trade, Orioles vice president of baseball operations Dan Duquette has subtracted his rotation’s one sure thing in favor of Hammel, who was demoted from the Rockies’ rotation last summer. He did acquire two pitchers for the price of one, as well as potential 2013 control for each.”
Why couldn’t we just trade them Kevin Gregg? A pitcher they don’t want for a pitcher we don’t want…
Duquette would find a way
to turn Gregg into two Kevin Greggs
by kba26 on Feb 6, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's fucking stupid, IMO.
“Hey….let’s get a guy who was demoted from another team’s starting rotation for our best starter!!”
Oh, that’s brilliant, bumpkin. I already hate DD.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I could see a play potentially for a short term gain in overall value, maybe. That argument could be made. Long term…makes no sense to me.
by crawdaddy on Feb 6, 2012 8:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The only short term gain I see is if they don't walk at the end of the year
If the trade included a 2B, it might be different.
by perpetualstudent on Feb 6, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
And I don’t see much in terms of 2B help there.
by crawdaddy on Feb 6, 2012 9:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Convert Lindstrom to a 2B!
That must be the plan! DD is a secret genius!
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
The Rockies are going to start Scutaro at 2B.
They have Tulowitzki at SS.
That leaves them with Herrera or Young on the bench. The Orioles should have grabbed Young in any Guthrie trade. He’s 25 or 26, I believe and has the same kind of speed his dad had (note: I was at the game where Young Sr. stole 6 bases in one game). He has contact issues, which is why he would have been made available. However, he’s displaying improved patience at the plate and absolutely would have been better value than either Hammel or Lindstrom.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Young is a flawed player...
… but he brings more useful tools to the table than Lindstrom and Hammel. In 2011, he had a .342 OBP (26 BB in 229 plate appearances). He stole 27 bases in 31 attempts. His fielding was essentially average, but with a very good range factor at 2B.
I don’t view a speedy 2B with decent OBP skills as “junk” when Brian Roberts may never play again. He’d immediately be the best leadoff option on the team.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
with 20 power?
on-base is extremely important, but don’t discount power. You need at least some power to be an everyday player.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
As a leadoff hitter, I don't particularly care if he has a high SLG or not.
He’s fast enough that every single (or walk) is a potential double. For example, let’s calculate SPSLG (speed-weighted slugging). 22 of his SB were of 2B. He had 42 singles, 4 doubles, and 3 triples for a natural .298 SLG. If those 22 steals of 2B are weighted into his hitting, he had an effective SPSLG of .424. Combined with his .342 OBP and you’re talking about a leadoff 2B with an effective .766 OPS.
He can also score from first on a long single and will always score on a double. As a true speed threat (unlike if we’re batting Andino, Hardy, or Markakis leading off), he’s also going to affect the pitcher’s approach to the next batter.
I’d say that’s better than any option currently on the table for the O’s.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
That SPSLG is an interesting concept.
Iv’e never heard of it before but it makes sense.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
he only leads off once a game
guys cannot survive as starters in MLB, let alone in the AL East, when they slug under .300 and are not ozzie smith in the field.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
That's reasonable.
Factoring in his 4 CS as wiping out 4 singles, his SPSLG was .404, which I still think is reasonable for a leadoff hitter.
Even if he comes up with the 8 and / or 9 hitter on base, his lack of power doesn’t terrify me. Get on, move ’em up a base, let Markakis get the RBI.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
If he hits a single with a runner on and only advances him to 2nd
you then neutralize his ability to steal bases.
he steals at a really good clip
but a single and a steal != a double. Doubles are far more valuable.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
That's a valid point and it's probably why there is no SPSLG stat.
On the other hand, in 229 plate appearances in 2011, he grounded into 1 double play, meaning that he wasn’t wiping out runners either.
JJ Hardy grounded into 10 double plays in 2011. Robert Andino hit into 14 in 2011.
I’m not saying that Eric Young will be an All-Star 2B. I am saying that he provides some amount of value that shouldn’t be discounted as “junk”. I believe that he would have provided more fWAR to the O’s in 2012 and beyond than either Hammel or Lindstrom will.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
no prospect?
unless there is a prospect involved I really don’t see the point.
This doesn't get around the unfortunate problem that one of them must start.
I vote for Britton.
by perpetualstudent on Feb 6, 2012 9:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If we can't laugh at this team
then we have no real hope yet… I’m thinking about just watching each game sped up and set to the Benny Hill Theme.
ALL HOPE IS GONE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1xxHQBIITA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
by duck on Feb 6, 2012 9:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
the sarcams at "unfortunate problem that one of them must start"
it was really funny. I needed a laugh at the moment.
I !!!!!... am gonna start drinking more....
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
by NSOsFan on Feb 6, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
O!, crap...
Yes, we did in fact trade Guthrie for no reason.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
L
is for the name of the column we’ll be in al year
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
by zknower on Feb 6, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
"E"very damn time Gregg will find some way to dick around with an easy save situation.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
"S"ucks to be an O's fan, huh?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
and where are the top prospects? i want prospects, prospects, prospects, prospects!
i’don’t think these two guys gonna be our closers……………ruleta ruso
Guthrie's twitter
“Toto, I have a feeling we’re not in Baltimore anymore.” Just found out I was traded to @Rockies #MLB #Rocktober
The worst part about this: I'm betting they didn't get anything of value in return.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Nah...didn't see that.
That freakin sucks. Why exactly did we trade Guthrie for basically the same pitcher, just worse?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
The only upside, if you even want to call it that, is that Hammel and Lindstrom are both under team control for multiple years
so we get to be this bad for longer
Brilliant!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 6, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If Hammel could only manage ERA's of 4.33, 4.81, and 4.76 in the NL West
theres no way he’s under 5.00 in the AL East right? He might break 6.
My thoughts exactly
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 6, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
poor guts!
poor us!
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Feb 6, 2012 9:14 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Damn. this is a sad way to start a week.
It’s also a sign of how little I understand the art of the trade.
I mean, the O's aren't even saving that much money!
Hammel and Lindstrom are going to combine for ~$9M
I grew up as one...
but just wow… how low can we go… I suppose DD and PA are trying to find out, but the thing about it is, they aren’t trying to lose, they are mkaing moves they really think make us better, which is perplexing…
That's the scary part.
I think they actually do believe these moves are making the team better.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Even if this really was the best caliber deal we could get for Guthrie
I find it hard to believe we couldn’t make the same move at the deadline
ugh...this.
I think they could’ve much better at the deadline.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I'm predicting it right now. The Rockies fall out of contention early, and flip Guthrie at the deadline for prospects that would have helped us.
I can’t imagine there isn’t a team up there that would have given up two young, C+ prospects with upside for Guthrie. Long enough shots that you couldn’t necessarily say the Orioles got better, but at least we could feel like we’re building for the future.
This would have been far preferable:
13) Edwar Cabrera, LHP, Grade C+: Overmatched A-ball hitters with decent fastball and incredible changeup, still working on breaking ball. Scouts remain lukewarm despite superior numbers and we need to see him in Double-A.
17) Rosell Herrera, SS, Grade C+: Will wind up at third base or outfield. Scouts like his switch-hitting offensive potential despite so-so numbers in the Pioneer League. Young at 18, still raw, high upside.
Detroit offered us a pair of pretty solid bullpen pitchers last year IIRC
Phil Coke and someone else. That would’ve been much better than this.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 6, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
According to the Twitter
Guts has already agreed to a one-year deal with the Rockies and won’t go to arbitration.
Well...he'll have the Rockies for biking now.
Awesome place for bike trips. And he’ll be closer to the rest of the Mormons.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
another edition....
of the keith law cavalcade of one liners?
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Feb 6, 2012 9:23 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I'm sure it already has
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
by duck on Feb 6, 2012 9:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think Law will blast the Rockies for it as much as anything
A fly ball pitcher who gives up lots of homers going to Colorado? This will not end well for Mr. Guthrie.
I think an Oriole slept with his sister and never called back.
I can’t think of another reason for his utter contempt for everything about the O’s.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
Well, he was a Blue Jay...
In 2002, Law was hired by the Toronto Blue Jays as a “Consultant to Baseball Operations” after impressing Blue Jays’ general manager J. P. Ricciardi during the offseason winter meetings.4 Paul DePodesta had recommended Law to him and Ricciardi asked Law’s opinions regarding the approaching Rule 5 draft of that year, and, impressed with Law’s answers and explanations, offered him a position with the team.5 During his time with the Blue Jays, he acted as a major league and minor league scout, contract negotiator, and provided assistance to the team’s marketing and sales staffs.2 Law reached the position of “Special Assistant to the GM” before resigning in 2006 to work at ESPN.6
I don't think he's specifically biased against the O's
I do think his enjoyment of being insulting and blasting Dan Duquette is biasing him when he says O’Dowd made a good move.
I just think he thinks the O's are dumb things.
Hardly a unreasonable stance.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I agree
I’m just saying that I don’t see why anyone would believe Guthrie will post anything south of a 5.00 ERA in Colorado.
Fangraphs seem as confused as we are
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Overall,
Fangraphs seems to wind up slightly on the O’s side.
Between the article and its comments, the consensus is, “O’s couldn’t get prospects for Guts, are going to home one of these guys pans out for better ones.”
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Perhaps not "prospects", but...
… return similar to what we got for Koji would have been better. Maybe some former prospects now in their mid-20s who haven’t met expectations, but you take a flyer and maybe a change of scenery lights a fire under them.
While Hunter and Davis didn’t exactly roll my socks up and down last year, it was still a ‘good’ trade. Koji, as much as we love him, wasn’t going to make us a better team in 2012 or beyond. On the other hand, if Hunter could pitch 180 innings at a 4.00 ERA (not out of the realm of possibility), that’s valuable. If Davis put together some hand-eye coordination with his power and go for a .275/.340/.500 line, he’d be valuable, too. It was definitely a gamble worth taking.
Yet, on the Guthrie trade, the O’s aren’t taking any kind of gamble at all. At best, we’re breaking even. Most likely, we traded away a player who could have netted us a flyer and got back two players that will be DFA’d next off-season.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think we're breaking even at best
Hammel’s peripherals are similar to Guthrie’s. If he regains his form, we are looking at one more year of control at a lower salary.
I’m not saying this upside is likely, but it is the potential upside.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
This trade is an across the board fail amongst my Facebook friends
Stat friendly and casual fans alike.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 6, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Aging roider who hasn't done anything in the past few years
arrogant, terrible teammate.
Signing him to a minor league contract would only hurt the development of the players already at Norfolk because of the cancer that he is in the club house.
Summed up: Not worth the media storm and 6 months of putting up with reading about him.
So you think the Orioles are going to do it?
by BrianS on Feb 6, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
It makes no sense for them
So yes I do think they will.
Let's see what the Magic 8-ball says...
Not bloody likely
Worst. Trade. Ever?
Can anyone think of a trade that looked worse or made less sense at the time the trade was made than than this one did?
Bedard to Seattle. That made little sense for Seattle.
by crawdaddy on Feb 6, 2012 9:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
So Brooks Laich of the Caps gets hurt (possible ACL injury) AND Jeremy Guthrie gets traded for nobody.
Somebody is trying way too hard to make me hate sports.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
On the bright side
Prince Brady goes home a loser… again….
I didn't watch
But I was sad at the lack of earthquakes swallowing Indianapolis.
by Steven_G on Feb 6, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Let's trade away fan favorites at a position that we need to upgrade
in order to make the position weaker and have more no-name has beens to replace people the fans like.
Thats about as good of an explanation for this as any
I’m sitting here and can’t come up with any shred of a reason why this make sense for the Orioles.
not being versed in statistics
is there any shred of moneyballing going on where we are missing something about hamel? Only thing I can see is that Hammel since 2006 has been a 9.4 war player and guthrie a 10.4 since 2004. Hammel does have a beeter FIP / XFIP career than guthrie even though his era is higher than guthries.
Guthrie – ERA 4.19 FIP 4.68 XFIP 4.61
Hammel ERA 4.99 FIP 4.38 XFIP 4.27
Anything hidden in there that can help us?
Hmmm....
Hammel has a marginally lower home run rate and a higher ground ball rate….and…..well, I got nuthin.
Maybe there’s something wrong with Guts that hasn’t been publicized yet?
If that was the case, I doubt the Rockies would be taking him.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
something to think on
defense independent pitching statistics (DIPS) do not say explicitly “pitchers have zero effect on batted balls”, but rather “this is what we know for a fact the pitchers does have control on”. That is, we don’t know accurately the effect a pitcher has on batted balls.With Guthrie specifically we see that he has consistently outperformed his DIPS, so fWAR will undervalue him, because it does not take into account the positive effect he has (for some reason) on batted balls.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
hammel
career 4.40ish FIP, .430ish xFIP (which normalizes for home runs allowed based on fly ball percentage), but a 5.00ish career ERA. So he could be a guy who underperforms his DIPS.
Except, he didn’t in 2011. ERA, FIP, and xFIP were all in the 4.80 region, about a half-run worse than Guts.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Thanks! So It looks like duquette is banking on hammel
being roughly similar to guts and is taking on bullpen help. Hopefully it works out.
I keep coming back to this
what happens when the Orioles are in dead last place 10 games under on July 1st? Or maybe: at what point do they finally start to try and acquire long-term pieces?
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Is this a ploy by Duquette to ensure the O's get the #1 overall draft pick in 2013 and 2014?
Are there two Strasburg / Zimmermann level prospects coming along in the pipeline?
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
I'd actually be okay with that strategy.
But there is no chance “can’t miss” guys like that would fall into the O’s lap. They should have bailed on the season before Harper was drafted. Or the season before that, and so one.
Fuck me...
He needs to be in the bullpen as a LOOGY!
I think DD is a Blue Jays sleeper agent.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Clay Rapada doesn't need to be anywhere on the Orioles.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 6, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Some scouting reports I found on the two newest O's
Lindstrom is a hard thrower at least, and coincidentally, also a Mormon.
On Hammel:
He’s a solid #4/5 starter that is still learning how to pitch and gain confidence.
This sounds familiar…
Matusz really?
I think he would really have to show he was over his issues from last year. I hope he, Britton, Arrieta are truly ready to take that step forward this year that we’ve been looking forward to the past several years. Or maybe we think that Chen and Wada are going to be ready to go this year… Arrieta, Wada, Chen, Britton, and Hammel, likely rotation (maybe not in that order).
Out of all the other pitchers Chen and Wada are the biggest wildcards, but their MLB projections are really not that good (4/5 guys iirc).
I’d have to look more at Lindstrom, but he might be the silver lining to the deal…
i am having this same blind faith
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I hope and think that Matusz will return to 2010 form.
But I hope he starts at least a couple of months in Norfolk so he can prove it first.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
I hope not.
He just went through the WORST season E V E R by a SP. Let him rebuild his game and confidence before throwing him back into the ALE.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
I want 5 starts in a row at Norfolk of at least 6 IP and 2 runs or less given up...
… along with an average fastball velocity of at least 91 mph before he’s brought up to Baltimore.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Would you like a large or medium coke with that?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
thanks
though the Lindstrom one is 6 years old…
At least the rockies fanst don't seem to be liking the trade either.
Growing Impatient… Of O’Dowd making BONE-HEAD moves like this one!!! Bullpen is now weaker. Guthrie is a Port-side, soon-to-be 33 year-old version of Hammel. And, this makes sense to him? Duquette just butt-#%^@#& him!
by nt_eagle on Feb 6, 2012 6:38 AM PST reply actions
Guthrie is better than Hammel Hence, upgrade
by I_Am_Marshall on Feb 6, 2012 6:42 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Guthrie AND Hammel are… both crap. O’s just got a Bullpen arm for FREE!
by nt_eagle on Feb 6, 2012 6:43 AM PST up reply actions
losing Lindstrom isn’t good Is it April yet?
by Rosenort on Feb 6, 2012 6:
Well, sending a flyball pitcher like Guthrie to Coors Field doesn't make a lot of sense
its possible this is the rare trade that is terrible for both teams
I totally disagree with the guy saying that Hammel and Guts are both crap.
Hammel might be crap, but Guts certainly isn’t.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Based on win-losses alone... sure
But you have to remember who he was playing for, in what division and against which other pitchers…
Where does he project to be in the Rockies rotation? I know nothing about them, but I see Guts having a better year.
Let's be honest
Guts is a #4 on a good MLB team, maybe a #3 in a weak division like NL West.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Hammel doesn't even start for a good MLB team.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Heck...he wasn't even starting for a bad team.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Kevin Millwood had an ERA under 4 there last year in 9 starts.
Guthrie will be fine.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
Yeah this was my second thought
After i was done WTF’ing
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 6, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
At least it is a 1 year deal
they could catch lightning in a bottle with an inspired effort from Guts.
You know it's a good compromise when no one is happy...
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Thats not really true
Pieces went both ways that don’t help their new teams as much as the ones they gave up would have. Its possible for both sides to lose.
I have a meeting this afternoon i have to prepare for
and all i can think about is this stupid trade
Trebek: "The Orioles completed this trade with the Colorado Rockies in 2012."
Duquette: “What is Guthrie for Hammel and Lindstrom?”
Trebek: "No Dan, I’m sorry. The correct response would be, “What is Guthrie for Eric Young and Christian Friedrich?”
Duquette: “Damn you, Trebek!”
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 9:48 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
He's probably not back of his own free will.
The Orioles traded Dylan Bundy for him.
by BrianS on Feb 6, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
For him and an extra bullpen arm.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Let it be known here and now...
… while I may disappear from time to time, rest assured that Andy Macphail / Dan Duquette / {insert generic Orioles general manager here} will always do something to piss me off and pull me back into the Orioles commentary fold.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Check the keeper league fanpost.
As of now I saved you a spot but if you’re not interested tell me because someone’s on the list.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I see that you're going with Yahoo.
I don’t use Yahoo and have no interest in maintaining another account just to do a second fantasy baseball league.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
You do realize that there is no "maintenance" required right?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 6, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
That hasn't been decided yet at all.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
If you guys roll with ESPN, I'll join up.
Just my two-bits and if anyone else feels passionately about not using ESPN, don’t change on my account.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
What is their player universe like? Does it include MiL?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
They have a solid minor league player contingent.
I had stocked up on guys like Hosmer, Moustakas, and Mesoraco before they made their MLB debuts.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Anyone else starting to long for Andy Mac?
We sucked, but he seemed to not be horrible at trades.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
His trades sucked too.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I wish I had the full list of his trades to really look at this
but Jim Hoey for JJ Hardy was pretty sweet, and I’d make that Bedard trade 100 times out of 100.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
this
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Also,
Hayden Penn for Robert Andino.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Hayden Penn is now pitching for the Chiba Lotte Mariners.
I believe this does technically put him on Duquette’s “Must Acquire” list.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I wasn't crazy about his FA signings, that's for sure
If we could only have the FA “savvy” of DD (ie HIRE ALL THE ASIANS!) and the trade “savvy” of Andy Mac, we could be slightly less bad!
Hey, a 2 headed GM! What a great idea! Has anyone tried that before?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I am still advocating for General Manager by Camden Chat committee.
All organizational moves are introduced in the daily Bird Droppings. After 1,000 comments have been posted (not necessarily on the topic of a specific move as our decisions often include outside-the-box methodology to reach), the consensus of the community is determined and the move is made.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
2 wrongs don't make a right!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 6, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Remember how we were all lamenting the lack of baseball news to discuss?
I preferred the ugly arguments to trying to figure out how the Orioles don’t understand baseball.
Not me
If there’s one thing the Giants haters on here can take solace in, it’s that this news is destroying my day.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Feb 6, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't hate the giants
I just hate eli.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
by Philly O's on Feb 6, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 6, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
We can make an ugly argument.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 6, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
and/or play risk....
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 6, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
risk sounds like good times
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Feb 6, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
I'm actually happy that guts finally gets to escape this club.
…some birds aren’t meant to be caged. Their feathers are just too bright.
by camdenchad on Feb 6, 2012 10:14 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions 4 recs
With how bad the NL West is as a division...
… there’s a decent chance Guthrie pitches in the postseason for the first time in his life. So at least there’s that.
The Padres are a mess. The Dodgers look like a .500 club at best (although, .500 may win that division). The Giants are getting Posey back and still don’t have enough offense. The Diamondbacks are surely the favorites, but I don’t see that they are appreciably better than the Rockies.
Also, I rooted for the Rockies as my National League team-of-choice prior to the Nats coming to town, so I am happy that Guthrie didn’t get traded to an evil organization, like the Yankees or the Reds.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
This really is unbelievable
A guy who wasn’t supposed to b on the OD roster last year, Zach Britton, has a illegitimate shot at being the #1 starter.
If the season started tomorrow who do you go with?
Tommy Hunter
Make him pitch until he gets it right!
by dan o'hare on Feb 6, 2012 10:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I actually don't think he's so bad. I just think we used him wrong last year.
It seems that most of his struggles came in the 7th inning last year. This after he was pitching in relief with Texas.
by camdenchad on Feb 6, 2012 10:48 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yup. We just have to accept it.
Just like we have to accept that a teams owner can never be fired.
by camdenchad on Feb 6, 2012 10:56 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Unless your team owner is Frank McCourt.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
It's a part of Bud Selig's secret plan to get enough organizations to open up a European Division.
The O’s are going to be relocated to London. The Twins will be relocated to Berlin. The Rays will be relocated to Paris. The Royals will be relocated to Madrid.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 6, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
That would be awesome.
But make it Rome instead of London. It’s about half the airfare from here.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
really?
I always thought Italy was one of the most expensive countries to fly into…?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
I regularly see deals for 150-200 Euros into Italian cities.
It’s usually around 400-500 to London
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Not from the middle east.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 6, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
ahhh, right
i was thinking from Baltimore. I just checked Kayak, and from the 3 Baltimore area airports, London is currently $50 cheaper than Rome.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Rome is usually pretty pricey from the states.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 6, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
I think I'd still root for the London O's
by camdenchad on Feb 6, 2012 11:08 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm hoping for contraction, personally
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
as much as i hate to say it
tommy hunter…maybe Matusz if spring shows hes back to his old self.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Feb 6, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Another vote for throwing Tommy Hunter out there
I don’t want to burden a pitcher i care about with the pressure of being branded our ace just because he starts the first game of the season
That's not a paritcularly good argument.
If you have a stud prospect that you wait until later in the season to call up and he lights the league up, why start him on OD the next season? A better point would be that while Britton didn’t have a bad rookie season and is still a sign of hope, he’s not good enough yet to be a #1 starter.
At least PA is taking the trade well
UnPeterAngelos UnPeter Angelos
I’ll miss the soft sounds of Justin Bieber emanating from @JGuthrie46’s locker whilst he was having tea parties with his Barbies.
I feel kind of bad for him
On his Facebook fanpage his last post is sharing an article from January saying “Hammel is on doorstep of becoming good in rockies rotation”
i just went on a twitter scouting run
and came up with nothing. No accounts maybe?
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Feb 6, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Checking wikipedia and facebook now
Guess who he made his major league debut against?
lol 3.1 innings pitched. 8 hits 7 earned runs.
Kris Benson showed him how it was done.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TBA/TBA200604110.shtml
Hah
Not quite the typical debut for a pitcher against the Orioles… So that’s not a good sign..
What up?
by snakethejake on Feb 6, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Rockies Fans Review of Hammels
Dry Wit and Candor in interviews.
http://www.purplerow.com/2012/1/17/2713463/2011-rockies-player-review-jason-hammel
I wonder what it's going to cost him to move the shoe vault to Boulder.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 6, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Non-Guthrie comment since this has been frontpaged now...
I spent the weekend in Manhattan and had an amazing time. It was my first trip to NYC and while my wallet smarts a little bit, I can immediately see why people love that city so much. My friends have a really nice place in Murray Hill with a great view of Midtown from their roof. I could’ve walked around all day with my head up in the air just staring at the buildings and been content.
There was never any doubt in my mind that the physical city itself would be awesome, but all of my experiences with Yankees fans at Camden Yards and people from NY at Univ of Maryland led me to believe that there would be stereotypical loud obnoxious assholes everywhere. But I’ve gotta say that I did not run into any of these people all weekend, and I had plenty of opportunities to with all the bar-hopping and Super Bowl talk that we engaged in all weekend. People definitely spoke louder than me across the board, but everyone I met was extremely polite. People were willing to host us everywhere we went, answer questions and give us directions without being annoyed at our tourist tendencies.
People were sympathetic about the Ravens, and I had multiple conversations with strangers where they talked about how much they enjoy Baltimore, and visiting Camden Yards and the Inner Harbor. It was a huge departure from the kids from NY that I met in college, who would just immediately dismiss Baltimore as an inferior city, and start bashing the city and our teams whenever the topic was brought up. One friend of a friend just told me he feels really defensive when he comes to Baltimore for Yankees games, and maybe that’s why they come off as such assholes when they’re here.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 6, 2012 11:00 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Sounds like you had a great trip! Good to hear.
Any recommendations?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
You mean as far as places to go?
We walked around a lot but didn’t really go into anything other than bars, and we bar-hopped so much that I can’t even remember the names of most of them. A lot of the bars had a pretty corporate feel to them, I was kind of hoping for more unique places.
Times Square was a sight to behold, but it was kind of meh after looking around for a few minutes. We told my buddy we wanted to check out Times Square and he put it this way: “You know what you can do in Times Square? You can buy M&M’s.”
One recommendation that worked out really well was parking in Long Island. We left our car at my buddy’s place in Long Beach and took the Long Island Railroad into the city. Traffic wasn’t bad at all getting to LI and it was only $15 for a round trip ticket into and out of the city on the train.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 6, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
the most interesting bars....
….in Manhattan, anyway, are the ones down in the Village and Grammercy. Since those are the earliest settled parts of Manhattan, there are bars there dating to the early 1800s. Chumleigh’s is one of the oldest, and McSorley’s probably has the most character.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
also,
in my Brooklyn neighborhood, there’s PJ Hanley’s, another very old place. Its prior owner was a WW II vet, and his legacy is that anyone walking into the bar in uniform gets his/her first drink on the house.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Yeah we didn't get a chance to do Brooklyn
I wouldn’t mind going to more hip places next time. The friends I was with were pretty yuppified. They all just got out of law school and work for firms. We didn’t stray too far from 34th Street and everything was just really… corporate is the best way to describe it.
Next time I want to go exploring more. Hanging with the bros was cool, but a weekend with my gf doing touristy stuff like shopping in trendy neighborhoods, maybe the Statue of Liberty and Central Park would definitely be better next time and get us some more diversity on the trip.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 6, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
yuck
midtown is the worst. it’s absolutely corporate central.
there are only two bars I ever go to in midtown. One is The Ginger Man, which actually feels like an honest to god english pub in NYC. Next time you go to NYC, if you’re anywhere near the mid 30s, check it out.
The other is a sports bar in the low 30s whose name I forget, but the memorabilia it has is fantastic. A quick Google search says it might be Foley’s on 33rd Street.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
yes Times Square is the worst
I have to come here everyday. Is it any wonder I want to move back to the eastern shore and be a famer…
I like to visit
I have a photo of each of my kids at around age 11 in Times Square on my desk at school. Dessert at the Hard Rock! They sat my son and I next to Kerry King’s guitar the day after The Big 4 show last fall.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
by duck on Feb 6, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
love, love, love...
mcsorley’s
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Feb 6, 2012 11:27 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think McSorely’s beer is really good, too.
Burp Castle has a good selection of belgian beers, funny artwork, and they’ll “shush” you if you talk too loud (as if you’re in a monestary)
I can’t remember the names of the other places in the village I went to. We tried to go to “Please Don’t Tell” (the secret bar that you enter through a hot dog stand) but the wait was too long (since it had been on Food Network the week before) and as we were in shorts and t-shirts they might not have let us in, anyway.
I always loved Chumley's
just for its unmarked-door speakeasy entrance.
Alas, it has been closed for a few years, but I believe they hope to reopen later this sumer.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Depends what you're going for
there are great bars all over Manhattan. I generally like hole in the walls, but every once in a while I love going to the campbell apartment in grand central – nothing more old new york than that.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
that place is sweeeeeet
like walking into a Mad Men set
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
The M&Ms store is pretty awesome
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
You get a rec, sir
Yeah, I’m easy.
Glad you had such a great time. It’s a little-known fact that most NYers take great pride in their city, and enjoy being helpful to the millions of out-of-towners who visit each year (even if we wish you’d move a little faster on the sidewalks and would stand to the right on escalators).
Think about coming back for an Oriole game at Yankee stadium! Then you can see the dirty underbelly.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
yeah.
that would be a much different experiance. Sit in the bleachers…
And I rec'd likewise
people in this area get a bad rep.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Had a very similar experience when I visited New York this past November
Loved the city. Definitely agree about the wallet smarting, though. We ate at Gordon Ramsay’s restaurant… yikes.
no, people in NY are cool
It’s just Yankee fans that suck :)
by dan o'hare on Feb 6, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just assumed they came off as assholes because they were Yankees fans.
One friend of a friend just told me he feels really defensive when he comes to Baltimore for Yankees games, and maybe that’s why they come off as such assholes when they’re here.
That or most new yorkers are nice people
but most Yankees fans are so loud they give a bad name to the rest. *Note I said most and not all.
I am doing a little analysis on Jason Hammel against current AL East batters
OPS
Yankees-.956
Red Sox-.973
Blue Jays-.690
Rays-.988
Standouts-
Dustin Pedrioa-6 PA 2.583 OPS (.750 BA, 1 HR, 1 2B)
Big Papi-10 PA 1.5 OPS (.600 BA, 1 HR)
Arod- 17 PA 1.671 OPS (.400 BA, FOUR HOMERUNS, 9 RBI)
Positive-
Adrian Gonzales faced Hammel 27 times (.174 BA, .296 OBP, 1 HR)
Why the O’s would want this guy is behind me.
but how often did they face him in Colorado?
OPS is not park-independent, right?
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
To be fair
He did face the AL east more at the beginning of his career, and the standouts you mention tend to have a reputation for murdering almost every pitcher.
I just thought it was interesting and that I would share.
Your points are important to factor in for sure.
Correct, OPS is just SLG+ OBP
PA by Team-
Yankees-70
RS-74
Blue Jays-46 (2 vs Jays pitcher Brandon Morrow)
Rays-26 (19 of them vs Johnny Damon and Casey Kotchman)
Netflix really needs to up that streaming service.
And start getting real stuff in the library instead of TV shows nobody watches.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 6, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
eh
service not launching until second half 2012, content being managed by Verizon, which is the most conservative network in the US. We’ll see what happens, but I see them as a niche player.
If it was this news alone, I'd agree
but Netflix is in such a weakened position after an awful 2011 that this could be bad for them. An competitively priced unlimited-Redbox option could really cut into Netflix’s remaining physical media business.
I'm always impressed by how many things i can effectively replace with my iphone
I was about to buy a nice voice recorder to tape meetings before thinking to check my phone first. works great. (Note: This is not an attempt to start a smart phone debate. I’m sure most android phones can do this just fine too.)
if you jailbreak it
you can put a flashlight on your lockscreen or notification center.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Feb 6, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Haha yes
Even something as simple as replacing a $5 flashlight is awesome and a nice little surprise with the iPhone
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 6, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
It really is the best
I found one with a widget for the home screen and it uses the LED flash on the phone. I use it every morning and every night.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I just woke up so I'm not gonna read through the Guthrie stuff yet, but,
Dan Duquette just traded my favorite player, so he can go fuck himself. Luckily we got Dana motherfucking Evelend, so we’re just fucking great. I was waiting to reserve judgement on DD, but yeah, he pretty much fucking sucks now. Way to win over the goodwill of the fans asshole and nice fucking haul on the Guthrie deal. But hey whatever, we can stock our rotation with mediocre middle aged international signing that won’t work out. Also let’s go get more over the hump utility players. Seriously, I unless DD does some serious shit, he is in the fucking doghouse. Who wants to play some motherfucking risk?
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 11:57 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
I agree wholeheartedly with this comment.
I also thoroughly endorse the playing of risk.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 6, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
me too
although at some point I’m going to be afk for about an hour, but otherwise I’m down for the long haul
I have class at 10.30,
But I can finish a game by the end of the east coast work day.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
i also would like to try my hand at some world domination
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Feb 6, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
I don't actually have time, you guys will have to start it yourself
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
He harshed your buzz too, right!?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
yup, wait one sec though,
Ah, ok, I feel a little bit better now.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That did make me smile...
Thanks!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
That's cute
He’s goofy, but he’s ours. I love that man.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Emotionally I was at the top of the cliff yesterday with the Giants win,
That is me flying towards the rocks.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 12:09 PM EST reply actions
Hey Philly folks
did anyone hear about this Drexel LSD bust that happened last week?
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
and they were not even students
the only connection was that somebody from drexel may have been the runner and they sold to drexel kids. Clearly not as smart as the coke dealers down the street at Penn.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
amusingly
yesterday I was helping move a friend of a friend between apartments in Philly. As it turns out, it was one of those drug dealers wives. The door had been rammed and the place was a mess.
The moral of the story is: don’t help people move who have had all their money taken away by the police. They won’t help you and they won’t buy you pizza or anything for throwing out your back moving their fucking bed.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
wow
looks like your friend owes you one.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
nah, I'm still a couple in his debt
and he wasn’t happy anyway. I just want to complain. Plus, its as close to “the news” as I’ve gotten so far.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Anyone catch Luck last night?
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 12:26 PM EST reply actions
me!
jury’s still out, but in general i like it.
my only two hates are Jason Gedric (they really couldn’t find a better actor?), and RIchard Kind (driving me crazy….not a real character he’s playing, more like a cartoon)
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
It does seem that Gedric is the center piece of that storyline, I've never seen him in anything else, so I can't judge his other work.
It does seem his acting in Luck is fairly run of the mill, nothing special and it does surprise me that with the talent and overall industry respect in front of the camera and behind the camera they couldn’t get a bigger name to play that role.
As for Kind, I have seen him in this, Burn Notice, and Curb Your Enthusiasm, and as far as I can tell, he plays the exact same person each time, maybe it’s just that his mannerisms are so distinct and they don’t ever change.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
I have never seen Kind do anything different than this either
Gedric broke through with Murder One in the mid 90s. The he disappeared for 15 years. For good reason, IMHO.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Actually....a lot of us watched "Class of '96"
That’s where I first saw him.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Just another reminder why American football is better than the other kind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oByEN7Bwpp8
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
This was a bit ridiculous, right?
I mean, what was that?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Finally accepting the fact that the entire world thinks he's a douche?
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 6, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Beef brisket and mashed potatoes for lunch.
I really need to cook more often.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Haha
Nice April Fools Day joke with that Guts trade. You really had me going there for a moment!
/checks calendar
bogdamnit….
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 6, 2012 12:52 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Thoughts on the super bowl commercials?
Chevy Stunt commercial was sweeet. Ferris Bueller one was pretty funny too
The Bueller one was just okay.
I like the flying baby in the Doritos commerical….and the ETrade speed dating.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
generally underwhelming
But I think I’m the one who’s changed, not the commercials. Just not something I look forward to anymore.
Eh....they were pretty poor, IMO.
To be honest, I don’t think they’ve been very good for the past couple of years.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I liked the yogurt commercial where the chick headbutts john stamos.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
My favorite by far was the Samsung phone commercial featuring Justin Hawkins from the Darkness
but I LOVE the Darkness and Justin is ultra cool.
We did market research for that stunt commercial and I thought it was insanely stupid. It looked awesome, but I don’t care if a car can bungee jump. It doesn’t make me think that it’d be the best car for me to drive, because I generally don’t go bungee jumping while in my car.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
All car commercials are stupid
The one with the truck skiing and doing a flip 50 feet in the air takes the cake.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 6, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
I just sorta assumed that kid looked like this
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
That reminds me of this
My name is Talky Tina and I’m going to kill you. God, I love The Twilight Zone.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
So i'm listening to the recording of the meeting i just had
and its been a long time since i’ve heard my own voice on tape. Its really bizarre.
Me too, I regularly have to conduct interviews with people and or write-up meeting notes and I sound way, way worse in real life than I do in my head.
Same.
Not a fan of my voice.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I've watched a couple videos of myself lately
and the combination of voice and appearance makes me want to crawl under the nearest rock.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
The weirdest thing about doing the podcasts with Andrew is when I'm editing afterwards and listening to myself.
I did not realize just how much Maryland was in my voice until I started doing that.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 6, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
I always thought you sounded vaguely southern PA, honestly.
"Complacency is your demise." - Kerry King
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
We're gonna win, you know. Stats lie.
Well... I do live like 20 miles from the state line.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 7, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Download the Voxer app
That’s how I found out that my voice sounds weird recorded.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 6, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Was the Opening Day pitcher part of the starting lineup contest?
If so, everyone just lost.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
Unfortunately, I forgot to submit my lineup.
You can’t win if you don’t play.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
You also can't win if you're the Orioles.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 6, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
one person said Britton, one person said Hunter
They are the only people with a shot to be right. Other choices given other than Guthrie were Jair Jurgens and Joe Saunders.
I was sure Saunders was gonna happen
Heck, I’m still holding onto that one. Trade Adam Jones for Saunders!!!!!
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
So, I finally beat Mass Effect
I really didn’t think much of the game when I first started playing, but I really liked it by the end, can’t wait to play 2 and 3.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
I read a review, glad to hear they got rid of the cookie cutter side missions, those got pretty lame.
I ended up with like 30% renegade. I love being forced to make those tough choices even though I don’t particularly enjoy most RPGs because they all seem fantasy related and that’s not really my venue. But this was pretty awesome. I would ask you about some of your choices, but I don’t want to spoil it for anyone.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
I was actually full scale Paragon
I don’t like being a dick even in games.
And I think the game’s been out long enough that spoilers are passed.
Yeah, I never went out of my way to be a dick.
There did seem to be a lot of options to randomly shoot people . I did let the council die though and Ashley, which I felt kinda shitty about.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
I wanted to save her, because she is hot, but Kaiden seemed more useful down the stretch.
Did you get Saron to shoot himself?
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
I never used either of them
I was a Biotic myself and they both seemed to be the most boring characters.
I did get Saren to shoot himself.
I was an infiltrator, so I didn't have great special talents, but yeah, they were pretty generic.
I usually used Wrex, he seemed like a pretty cool guy.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
I guess none of the females in the game ask you to judge their features?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
You sure her cheekbones weren't just slightly misshapen?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
She was also green, or blue.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
As long as she wasn't blonde...
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
No, her face was fairly near ideally constructed
Of course, she’s a video game character, so I would expect that.
you're scaring teh females!
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 6, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
In this case...
I am sure it’s merely them laughing at the nerd than being put off, since Mass Effect characters aren’t real.
I played the first one a few months after it came out.
I really need to get around to playing the second.
Ha! There's a Fanpost at Over The Monster (I really have to find out how to erase that)
suggesting that Garza is fair compensation for Theo Epstein. And better yet, they’re debating it as if it’s a possibilty!
I thought we drank the Kool-aid.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
We drink Kool-Aid of a different variety
Most commonly used by cults trying to “ascend” to passing comets, or some such nonsense.
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