Thursday Bird Droppings
by Stacey on Feb 9, 2012 8:17 AM EST
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From now on the Orioles will have to find their Asian talents in places other than South Korea. Wow, they're salty. (h/t to Westie)
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am i the only one
that’s not a big fan of Ryan Adams?
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
his album Heartbreaker is legit.
I hear he has a real weak stick though. Not someone I’d want starting on my team.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Feb 9, 2012 8:41 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Did you know that Lindsey vonn threw out a first pitch last year?
I somehow stumbled across this picture.
Of course the first thing I thought was: “Has TL seen this?”
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
That's terrible
she isn’t fat in the least bit.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I think he was talking about the bird.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I think I was too.
Actually…I really wasn’t. That bird doesn’t really look like he’s in the best shape of his life.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Bird's a pimp
well played
"Birdland is the belief that as great as today just was, tomorrow might be even better." -EME
by OriolesOptimist on Feb 9, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
As I said, I wanna be that bird.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Man....I wanna be that bird.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
if the bird in the hat wore a hat
with a bird in the hat…that had a hat with a bird in the hat wearing a hat…
Especially since the new cartoon bird
is wearing an O’s hat himself.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Very fitting
Considering the Orioles are constantly in limbo.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
hmm....
Angelos??
Maybe it’s time for him to take a “leap of faith.”
by camdenchad on Feb 9, 2012 10:54 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Gah....I hate getting sick.
The couple of days right before you get a cold but know you’re coming down with something are worse than the actual cold.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I couldn't agree more. I've become extremely paranoid about catching colds.
I caught a mild cold this past weekend, and it was the first time I had in upwards of 8 months or so. Miserable.
I was so sick on Monday I had to call in.
And I haven’t really improved a lot since then, although I have managed to drag myself in to work, I haven’t been able to do much else.
Everybody in my office has got the same cold. It sounds like a hospice in here.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
That is the second time in two weeks
somebody in here has advised me to get drunk at my desk. I sense a theme.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
He'd probably make the next O's prospect list.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
lol
I’m just saying alcohol kills germs…not saying you should drink it…
I thought that's all people did in Massachusetts in the winter, drink all day every day
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
If winter ever actually starts
I’ll let you know.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
I disagree
I would much rather have the slight sniffles of a pre-sickness than horrific coughing and stuffed nose that prevents breathing, sleeping, or anything other than feeling miserable.
Yup
I’ve been sick for 3-4 days now. Hoping to feel well enough to go snowboarding tomorrow, but don’t know if it’s happening.
Ignorant question
Does skiing cost more at times like this when there is no real snow? All that man-made snow sounds expensive to maintain.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
They don't charge more, but I'm sure it costs them a ton to maintain.
Just means they’ll have higher prices next year :(
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
this year is obviously more extreme than most
but east coast places are used to making most of their own snow anyway unless you’re far north.
also have gotten some powder rides further up in PA at Blue Knob
they also opened up forested areas for riding with enough snow on the ground
Yea...icy as hell there.
I went once and haven’t been back.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
No...I mean it's a sheet of ice.
Doesn’t matter how good your skis are.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, if you're on a pair of really sharp racing skis it does
You want the snow on the course to be really hard
I have a pair of really sharp racing skis.
I used to ski race. Hard pack =! ice.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Yea...skiers tend to lump any "hard pack" conditions in with ice.
Hard pack keeps grooves from being cut into the snow, so you can ski faster on a less variable surface. Its the ice cookies that suck. The freeze, thaw, re-freeze, thaw, re-freeze leaves the snow in all different shapes. You can’t see that when you’re skiing, so you don’t actually know what you’re skiing over.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
So when i was racing, they had so many people on the same run
even hard pack would get eaten up. I’d rather have it icy and uniform than softer and rutted.
It wasn't hard pack then.
that’s just packed granular crap which sucks.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I'm afraid that I contribute to this...
Two years ago when I started to learn how to snowboard, I had to do a low of sliding rather than carving… that tends to knock the light snow cover off of slopes and you end up with the ice base on steeper sections of the easy trails.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Good skiers are.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I've yet to see a snowboarder not move snow around.
With the exception of really icy conditions where skidding is almost inevitable, I see skiers ski clean all the time.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Right
Skiing clean leaves almost nothing though. We’ve got half the surface area of a snowboard.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
maybe I'm wrong
but it sounds like you’re talking about racing. Yes, a racing skier “skiing clean” doesn’t move much snow, because they’re not carving as much. Recreational skiers should be carving the whole time, and thus moving snow around.
Only time a good snowboarder moves snow
is when stopping – same as a good skier doing a hockey stop.
disagree
if you turn at all, you’re moving snow. Are you saying that a “good” snowboarder doesn’t carve?
A good snowboarder and a good skier both move very minimal snow
unless they are stopping. In deep powder everybody is moving a fair amount of snow on turns, but on packed east coast snow if you’re moving a lot of snow just turning you’re doing it wrong.
a skier
that snowplows the whole way down the trail does the same thing. People just need to take lessons to learn how to turn properly.
I think skiers tend to pick this up faster than snowboarders
they’re still terrible skiers, but they mess the snow up less than beginner snowboarders
Yes... the few times I've been skiing, I had to snowplow, too.
On the other hand, I’m sticking to the bunny slope and the easiest green at WISP. So, since we’ve all got to learn somewhere, you’ve pretty much got to expect people to be moving snow on those two runs.
everybody's gotta snowplow
at some point in learning to ski. It’s all about learning to use your edges and weight distribution. Consider taking a lesson with a professional. I learned to ski when I was 6 (at Wisp actually), but still benefited from taking a lesson 15 years later.
Everybody moves snow. There’s no problem with it. It’s a by-product of turning. It becomes a problem when people ski/board trails that are too difficult for them and they’re forced to snowplow/sideslide straight down the mountain, clearing a path of ice behind them.
Good luck in learning to ski. It’s a lot of fun when you start getting better.
I did take a lesson the last time I went...
… and I will almost certainly take another.
Sadly, I don’t think I’ll be able to go this year, either. I’ve had a nagging cough since New Year’s and I doubt cold air and boarding would be good for that.
i am of the mind set that nothing is better for a slight cold than getting outside into some cold, fresh air
yeah, the cold air will probably irritate the cough it in the short term, but it get’s it out of your system quicker. Fill a pocket full of cough drops.
yeah, we got lucky and it snowed about 10 inches while we were there
the day after it snowed, it really started to suck by the end of the day… just patches of pure ice and mounds of snow mixed up everywhere
couldn't the same be said about whitetail/roundtop/liberty
most of the time? They all get pretty icy
i didnt think it was cold enough to be making that much snow
but I guess we’ve been experiencing enough cooler weather recently that it’s cold enough out there to be making it.
up here in york / harrisburg
we got a nice coating of snow yesterday it should help them out until the weekend.
And on the "mountains"
at night it’s been cold enough even when it was pretty warm down here int he cities.
pound zinc drops,
you can advert getting a full blown cold that way. it’s worked for me.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I really hate the lingering period when it just hasn't gone away.
I’ve got mono and strep throat right now, so I’m ready to not be sick anymore.
Do you ever read the police logs for your city/town?
I think that maybe 30% of the people driving around in my city at any given time are actually licensed to drive.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
this.
Most days I read it and am shocked that these people live near me. Some sketchy folk featured there.
"I don't have an on-deck circle for ideas. It's just 'Batter up!!' Even though they're bad" - Mike Birbiglia
by Parkinglotninja on Feb 9, 2012 9:05 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I just assumed that from my own adventures driving around the city.
Speaking of I was just enlightened to the existence of http://www.propertyroom.com/
It’s confiscated stuff auctioned off by police, floor models from companies, etc. I haven’t browsed the whole thing yet but they seem to have very reasonable deals on artwork and there’s a few diamond in the rough laptops.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
I went to a police auction once.
Got a ton of cheap stuff.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
After reading that article about the recent rt 50 accident where four people died...
…license status is about the least of my worries about other drivers around here. If I understand it right, one person with passengers is driving the wrong way down 50, hits someone going the correct way head on, and both drivers end up being DUI.
Sad stuff. Here’s a link (sun, paywall, etc).
I read about that. There's the extra wrinkle...
The car with passengers was all 18-19 year olds.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
MLB and KBO need to sit down and negotiate new rules.
I don’t understand exactly what is happening. Did the Orioles actually violate agreed-upon rules regarding this signing? Is the KBO just making shit up on the fly? Does MLB have any comment at all?
"Eh, it's just the Orioles. Does anybody really give a shit?"
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
doesn't MLB, in the least, have to be aware of every signing a club does?
I would think that the paperwork gets pushed across a desk at MLB at some point.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
I wonder if the contract was submitted on a Friday afternoon and didn't get properly reviewed by MLB.
(See: Eddie Gaedel signing.)
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
As far as I know
There were no agreed-upon rules in this matter. It’s just that, in the past, MLB teams have not been signing amateur players out of South Korea. It’s always been guys who were free agents, so KBO had no reason to complain.
I also think the KBO recently altered its draft in some way that caused this to occur.
MLB needs to work with the KBO,
but I don’t see the focusing on that until they’ve address the NPB-MLB Posting system. That thing’s a mess, it’s horrible for the players.
O posted this (today) in yesterday's BDs
Apparently we DID break a rule.
Link to photocopy of rulebook via @DanielKimW
The conversation is worth a glance. If this is true, DD is a complete and utter dumbass who might have closed off one of his own main markets. Motherf#$%ing incompetence.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
Reply fail. Meant to be reply to Tez
And “O” should be “I”
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
If Duquette broke a rule...
… the O’s do deserve to be fined by MLB and Duquette should be summarily dismissed for incompetence. I would be pissed if the Yankees or Red Sox tried to get away with breaking rules and I’ll be pissed if the Orioles do.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 9:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That seems harsh
But the sentiment remains… we had a small chance to outperform some clubs on some small scale, then we decide, “screw that… let’s go back to being losers and cheaters”. It’s like the steroid scandal in that we were cheating AND losing. Terrible.
Birdland and Buck both start with B... coincidence? I think not.
by Birdland in NC on Feb 9, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think it's harsh at all.
The O’s are now being forbidden from scouting in South Korea because of this. That means it was a decision that will affect the organization for years. Maybe Korea isn’t the Dominican Republic in terms of baseball talent, but organizations like the Orioles can’t afford to close anything off.
Whether one agrees with the regulations or not, they exist. We’d be furious of the Yankees or Red Sox flouted signing regulations.
I’d rather the Orioles tell the KBO that they will void the contract, fire Duquette, and pay a fine than be forbidden from scouting in Korea in the future.
It's a growing market.
The culture of youth participation in sports there is still relatively young, but it is growing and the KBO is trying to protect that growth. I don’t think that’s unreasonable for the KBO to do.
It would be in the KBO’s best interest to come to an agreement with MLB that keeps the youngest players in Korea (say, until 22 or so) and then allows them to sign with MLB teams. If the KBO goes fully the way of the NPB, Korean players will just sign in Japan (which is a better league). Becoming an unofficial independent minor league is probably the best the KBO can do.
Took him about a week to get right back into the swing of things
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
If they fire DD, they’ll probably have to find their next GM in South Korea. Then they could really have an advantage there!
Given that Korea won the World Baseball Classic...
… that may not be the worst thing in the world. Korea’s had more success against MLB players in the past decade than the Orioles.
SSS
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
Korea?
Korea’s never won the World Baseball Classic. Japan’s won both. Korea just wished they did.
You're right.
I thought they beat Japan in 2009. They were runners-up.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
No it won't
…affect the organization for years. Something will be worked out soon.
Voiding the contract and firing Duquette sounds like a Kim Jong-il demand.
Note that my comment was conditional on the KBO enforcing the ban.
I’d rather the Orioles tell the KBO that they will void the contract, fire Duquette, and pay a fine than be forbidden from scouting in Korea in the future.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
It still sounds like a Kim Jong-Il demand.
I'm not confused brother! I just took picture of my face, and it's deffo not my confused face. - Waj
by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
You say that now...
…but wait until you see the new Batman movie and who is replacing Christian Bale.
I'm not confused brother! I just took picture of my face, and it's deffo not my confused face. - Waj
by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
I've seen multiple comic book-based movies in the past and intensely disliked them.
They got their chance. They failed.
I don’t need to watch every episode of Whitney to know that I think the entire thing sucks. I was fully able to make that judgment after just a couple of episodes (well, after the first two minutes, actually, but I gave it a fair shot).
So because whitney sucks, you can say that every sitcom in the future sucks?
Makes sense to me.
by DaveAA on Feb 9, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Superheros are just one take on action movies...
One which past history has taught me I will not enjoy.
someone here is still bitter after watching Shaq in "Steel"...
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
All comic movies suck!
I can tell because I saw this:
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
you're being deliberately obtuse
Each episode of Whitney is produces by the same team, starring the same actors. Each film within a genre are different teams, producers, etc. They’re fresh takes, not episodes.
This hasn't been my experience...
They’re fresh takes, not episodes.
They’re all variations on a theme… a bland, unenjoyable, and predictable theme, in my opinion.
Perhaps...
I could make the analogy that I don’t need to ever listen to another country song to know that I think it will suck.
Charlie Daniels
Who doesn’t like Devil Went Down To Georgia?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Can't stand Johnny Cash...
When I was growing up, the only radio station my town got was country and it was on every fucking place I ever went. It made me develop an intense hatred towards all country music that can only be likened to how you feel about the New York Yankees.
If I ever hear a country song again, it would be too soon.
I like exactly 1 country song
It’s played during the 7th inning stretch.
I can grant that...
… though I think that I like Thank God I’m a Country Boy and Take Me Home, Country Roads because of my attachment to Baltimore and West Virginia, not because of the songs.
John Denver
Is one of my Mom’s favorites, she got to see him in concert not too long before he died. I have memories of going on car rides and listening to one his albums over and over again. So there’s a connection to my childhood as well. I can stand Country Roads, but something about Thank God I’ma Country Boy just makes me smile.
There is a whole universe of Country music
that does not get played on the radio. Don’t let that pop-country bullshit you’ve heard on the radio keep you from experiencing a lot of damn fine music.
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
by PBR me ASAP! on Feb 9, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll just have to disagree with you there. As Sheldon sang
Not everybody likes us, but we drive some folks wild
He praised my creativity, though he spoke sarcastically...
would not at all be surprised
if you’ve seen some comic book adaptations you didn’t even know were comic book adaptations.
It is the exact same thing
Movies based off comic book characters are a genre. Individual movies have different writers, cast, directors, budgets, and virtually everything other than the fact that they have source material drawn from comic books.
Christopher Nolan, that is all, now go watch Batman Begins.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
There is no "Comic Book Genre"
There are movies based on Comics and/or Graphic Novels that fit within other genres.
Scott Pilgrim. Batman Begins. American Splendor.
All three based on “comics” and yet none of them are in the same genre at all.
I'm not confused brother! I just took picture of my face, and it's deffo not my confused face. - Waj
by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
I agree... there is a definite superhero/comic book genre
I find Spiderman, Xmen, Green Lantern, Superman , etc to all be annoyingly similar. The recent Batman movies have been the exception and I think they are excellent.
Kick Ass was also a unique twist on the genre. Partly because it almost bordered being a parody of it.
Well then you're being silly and close-minded
Unless you’re being sarcastic HERE, in which case you’re being…. well silly and close-minded.
That would be the parallel
Just because Barb Wire sucked doesn’t mean Batman sucks, the same way that just because Whitney sucks doesn’t mean every sitcom will suck.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Here's my question:
How many so vociferously defending this particular superhero movie would go see a cheesy romantic comedy (say, in the Valentine’s Day or New Year’s Eve mold) if they had seen others and thought they sucked? How about westerns? Sci-fi? Fantasy? Or any other genre?
If your experience tells you that you don’t enjoy a genre, why would you continue going to see movies of that genre just because everyone else thinks one of the movies is good?
If a bunch of people repeatedly told me a movie was great?
Yes, I’d go see it. I’ve done it before and been remarkably surprised. Because any genre, done well, will produce enjoyment. It’s the genre done poorly, or averagely, that I will avoid.
i feel like the problem is that you've just watched shitty movies
that happened to have origins from a comic book series. for instance “The Dark Knight” is an amazing stand-alone film even if you ignore the fact of where the story originated from.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
I wouldn’t see New Year’s Eve because it blows. I would watch The Switch though, great piece of cinema, and both would be considered “Cheesy Romantic Comedy”
Batman Begins broke the mold.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
He's a playmaker!
Shot-caller!
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
If it's any comfort,
I’m with you on this. I don’t watch a lot of movies, but with video games, I just don’t give certain genres a chance, because I don’t enjoy even their most acclaimed entries.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
I'm the same with video games...
I don’t think I’ve played an FPS in five years.
I’m not big into puzzle games, either.
Haha.
FPS was the genre I had most in mind. The closest thing to an FPS I’ve enjoyed is Mass Effect; I played some Halo freshman year of college, but that was more “something to do with the roommates” than “I particularly like this game.”
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Have you tried Half Life and Half Life 2?
They’re commonly seen as some of the best in the genre. Not your typical run and gun kind of thing at all.
I haven't,
but basically, I’d rather play an interesting RPG I might otherwise overlook than try yet another FPS I know I probably won’t like.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Ah, I should add,
I do love Metal Gear Solid and MGS 3, and had fun with Metroid Prime. Knew I was forgetting some stuff more FPS-ish than ME.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Metal Gear is def. not a FPS
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Heh, no, definitely not.
Just arguably about as FPS-like as ME.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
I finally started playing Half Life 2 this past week.
Yes, this is me. (Although I did play Portal last year. So only four years!)
i don't play many videogames anymore
but Hitman, Max Payne, NOLF, and some other FPS were some of my favorites 5-10 years ago.
or are they somehow not considered FPS?
I don't think hitman or max payne are...
because they’re third person. FPS means first person shooter. I have no idea what nolf is.
isn't there a new hitman game coming out?
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
well, i'm pretty sure the camera can be changed to first-person
i didn’t realize there was such a difference in shooters. is POV the only separation?
nolf is no one lives forever.
No One Lives Forever
Kind of like the female James Bond, that kind of cheeky humour and storyline.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
I used to be that way
I absolutely hated FPS. Halo, Call of Duty, Doom… I was so bored with them all. Finally I gave Resistance a chance just because PS3 was new and there weren’t a ton of games out and I was amazed how much I loved it. Now I find myself much more open to them.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I don't care so much about genre in video games as I care about setting
I have yet to enjoy a futuristic/sci-fi type game, whether it be FPS, 3rd person, RPG…
Give me a well made historical shooter/platformer/rpg and I am all in
I would love to see a historical RPG
I think the closest I’ve seen are ones like Shadow Hearts or Bioshock, which are set in the past but aren’t grounded in reality.
Unless you count the Romance of the Three Kingdoms games, but those are mostly grand strategy games with some RPG elements.
The Uncharted Waters series kinda is.
Of course, the last single-player one the US got was UW: New Horizons on the SNES.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
I loved Mass Effect more than I thought I would.
But my favorite games are historical, LA Noire, RDR, Mafia, etc.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I also don't like games that take place in cities as much
though it’s not a deal breaker. GTAIV was fantastic. Now, post-apocalyptic cities - ugh.
Favorite games are probably RDR, ACII, Far Cry2 (I am a sucker for well designed natural environments), and the last two Uncharted games.
I don't mind cities.
It’s not really an issue for me either way. I don’t care for post-apocalyptic games mostly because I haven’t come across one I have enjoyed, although I am open to the “genre.” I need a new game to play though, I only have like 6 games, 3 sports games, LA Noire, GTA IV, and Mass Effect, I just got ME 2 though.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
if you like stuff like GTA, RDR, LA Noire, and ME..
you might be able to get into Assassin’s Creed. You could probably jump right in with the 2nd one. I haven’t ever met anyone else who likes it nearly as much as me, but Far Cry 2 is worth checking out too. It’s probably only $10 or so at this point.
Thanks.
I will check both of those out, I played a little bit of Far Cry 2 a while ago, but not enough that it wouldn’t be worth picking up.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
hmmm, maybe I will check them out as well.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be interested in giving Fallout 3 a try at some point
i guess a post-apocalyptic DC would be interesting.
I wasn’t terribly interested at first cause I never got into Elder Scrolls IV, but I recently have been playing Skyrim and it’s changed my perception on Bethesda RPGs
That was the awesome thing about Resistance
It took place during WW2, only WW2 never broke out because people were too busy trying to fend off an alien race. It made you make use of 1930’s weaponry until you could obtain the alien tech.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I don't watch a lot of movies
but when I do…I drink Dos Equis.
by Benhem612 on Feb 9, 2012 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't base what I want to see on the genre
I base it on who is making it.
Is a Martin Scorsese kids movie gonna be the same as a Mary Kate and Ashley kids movie?
Not fucking remotely.
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
[tez's credibility to speak upon on movies flys out of window]
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
*flies
whatever, point still stands
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
NOW it's out the window?
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
It was on the ledge, it just jumped.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
interesting
I’m not a huge Scorsese fanatic like a lot of people are, but he has made many excellent movies.
I haven't specifically avoided Scorsese the way I have superhero movies recently.
I just think I’ve never come across one that I went out of my way to see.
Taxi Driver
Goodfellas
Raging Bull
Casino
The Departed
Gangs of New York
Shit man, King of Comedy, Cape Fear, Mean Streets. AHHHHH
GREATEST DIRECTOR OF OUR TIME AND YOU HAVEN’T SEEN A SINGLE FILM OF HIS???
Go to Netflix now Tez!! For your own good.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe it's time to come to the conclusion...
You just have shitty taste.
It’s fine.
I’ll pray for you.
(I’m not religious though, so it might not work)
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I am an Orioles fan.
You just have shitty taste.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There's very, very little Kpop that I can tolerate.
Korean movies serve as decent mindless entertainment when I’m still sleepy on a Saturday morning or want to just cuddle on the sofa with Wifey.
Have you seen...
I’m a Cuborg, But That’s OK?
Or all the other Chan Wook Park movies?
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
*Cyborg
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
YOU SHOULD
ASAP.
You can start with the Vengance trilogy.
Sympathy for Mr. Vengance
Oldboy
Lady Vengance
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Lady Vengance
Is my favorite of the three. Check out Thirst too. And then I’m a Cyborg… which I believe is not on DVD but is on Instantview.
Have you seen I Saw the Devil?
Another reeally good Korean flick.
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
I just started again.
Loved season 2. Season 3 is a bit of drag so far, but I thought season 2 started slow before addicting me.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Season 2
Nick’s Girl’s Boobs FTW
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
i haven't seen any of his "classic" movies like
taxi driver or good fellas.
Of his more recent stuff…saw The Departed and found it vastly over-rated. I just saw Hugo and thought it was excellent.
This makes no sense whatsoever homie.
Go watch Batman Begins, NOW!
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
What comic book based movies did you see?
I’m not a comic book person but I still loved the Batman movies.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
...
Ironman
Batman (Val Kilmer version and Michael Keaton versions)
Spiderman (only the first Tobi Mcguire one)
X-Men (first and third, I think… probably the least unwatchable)
Some Will Smith one that I can’t remember the name of…
I walked away in the middle of The Hulk, Daredevil, and Hellboy (that’s got the red guy, right?)
Will Smith one was probably Hancock
Didn’t see it, heard it sucked.
Iron Man was a lot of fun.
Not a fan of the older Batman movies at all.
Like Spider-man
Love X-Men and X2, hated X3.
Love the Hulk but lots of people didn’t.
Daredevil was terrible.
Hated both Hellboy movies. I thought, the second one can’t be bad, right? I’m also a huge fan of Guillermo Del Toro so I figured it would be a no-brainer, but hated ’em both.
The Hulk also depends on which you saw
Was it Hulk or Incredible Hulk? One was pretty terrible, the other was just kinda bad.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
The one where he fights mutant dogs and becomes 1k feet tall?
Not so much.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
eh, I love it
I don’t care about how true it was to the source material, I just care about the finished product.
Sure the CGI wasn't great: the year was twenty aught three
But it’s got the most in depth character work done in a superhero movie to date.
I think I'll take Batman as far as that goes
I’d probably take Iron Man too
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
You sure you're just not a big Jennifer Connelly fan or something?
I mean, I disliked it much less than the typical person because I was a huge comic nerd growing up and that was one of the first big budget Marvel movies, but still… it wasn’t anything special.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I don't know who Jennifer Connelly is off the top of my head
It’s basically the only super hero movie so far that isn’t ABOUT the super powers. They just happen to be an element of the plot.
She played Betty
and was in A Beautiful Mind.
I guess I see what you’re saying. he Hulk lends itself to that since he isn’t really so much of a hero as a gigantic toddler, so it’s more about fear and misunderstanding than being a superhero. I just don’t think that particular movie went as well as the Ed Norton version did. I mean, Nick Nolte was in it. How good could it have been?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I really liked most of the action sequences
when the commanches are chasing the Hulk through the canyon sticks out in particular.
Hancock doesn't suck
It’s just not especially successful in what it set out to do. There’s still good stuff in there.
Also, it wasn’t based on a previous entity.
(I should say I have a big cinemaboner for Peter Berg though…)
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
i'm with you there on Berg
although “Battleship” looks like $200 million worth of garbage
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Yeah.
I’m gonna go see it though.
Texas forever.
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
HELL YES!
But not in 3D. I hate 3D
Wall-E is my fave Pixar movie.
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
John Carter
is from the director of Wall*E
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
John Carter looks so horrible I can't even put it into words.
Maybe not as horrible as Safehouse looks, but still awful.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Wall*E
That’s all I’m gonna say.
Ok, I’ll say more movies need Dafoe too.
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'm also a big fan of...
…not trusting previews.
Though I cream every time I see Ghost Rider II.
Moar Crank please!
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
I want to see
more Neveldine/Taylor.
Crank 2 is genius.
And they seem like they’d really know how to handle the Cage.
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
I HATED
the first Ghost Rider by the way.
Plus, Idris Elba!
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Ahaha
that’s the first time I’ve heard anyone be excited about Ghost Rider 2
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
It looks like
the exact opposite of what that Mark Steven Johnson failure was.
How do you give Ghost Rider to the guy who just shat the bed with Daredevil???
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
How do you have a Ghost Rider movie at all?
Does anyone still read Ghost Rider?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I refuse to watch Nicholas Cage anymore.
That is all.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
YES!!!!
LOVE Vampire’s Kiss.
And Wild at Heart.
Luuuuuuuuulaaaaaaaa!
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Bad Lieutenant 2
THAT is all.
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone READ???
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Sure....I just read your comment.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
HA!
I was replying to a comment way up there and now I just look like a fool. Well, not only now, but…you know.
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
You asked!
I answered! :-)
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Directing an animated film =/= directing live action
+ Wall*E and John Carter are totally different. He directed Finding Nemo too, seems like a solid director and writer, but I think he screwed a large pooch with John Carter.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Brad Bird
made the best Mission Impossible movie by far.
BY FAR!!!
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry sir,
but you’re wrong about the beards.
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
oh my god Safe House
Really interested to see how that movie is reviewed. It looks like something must have gone terribly wrong during production.
I think it started..
when they decided it should be something other than a direct to video Van Damme movie
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Actual line from the movie (well close to the actual line):
Reynolds: “I won’t let you get in my head”
Washington: “I’m already in your head.”
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
I can't see a commercial for that
without thinking about Noah Wyle.
I wish Tim Riggins would star in a movie that I’d like to see.
Did you see The Guard?
Classic Strong
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Saw it, loved it
I actually forgot he was in that movie. He was great, so I guess I’ll take back statement.
I saw a preview for it before Underworld
Meh, just didn’t do anything for me. The CGI just looked very cartoonish to me and the concept didn’t look all that appealing either. Maybe it’s just me.
Well...
You WERE seeing Underworld.
I can think of three easy reasons not to see that movie.
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
It's true...
I enjoy a good mindless action movie every once in awhile.
I’m not always in the mood for high theater.
Me too.
But the first three were only mindless, not good.
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
dislike Peter Berg
I liked The Rundown but I mainly credit The Rock for being totally likable in that role, otherwise the movie tried way too hard. I hated The Kingdom even though Jason Bateman wore an O’s cap.
BUT BUT BUT...
FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
BOOOOOOOOOOO.
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
I liked the Kingdom, but nothing else Berg has done.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
FNL or GTFO
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by Christopher Claxton on Feb 9, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Ironman was good.
The first Spiderman was good.
The rest were just bad movies which boxed themselves into the expectations of the genre. The new Batman movies broke the mold, it’s a lot darker, a lot more grounded, and a lot better! Seriously, just watch Batman Begins, if you think it is terrible, come back and throw it in our faces.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
with all of these, I'd tell you
“if you don’t like superhero movies, don’t go see it”
I think the new Batman movies are different. I also think Watchmen is different, but I may be in the minority on that one.
It still seems minor to me.
The kid wanted to sign with the Orioles, and the Orioles wanted to sign the kid, so they made an agreement. The O’s should apologize, promise to make proper notifications next time, and that should be that.
I recognize the Koreans are upset
but does this mean that our agreement with the player has been nullified?
Oh for fuck's sake
Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to follow a real team.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Wow.
That looks pretty bad.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
good lord I hope this kid sticks in the majors
The KBA prohibits players from contacting local or foreign baseball teams before their final years of study, either at high school or university, and on Wednesday, banned Kim indefinitely from playing and coaching in South Korea for his violation
He is banned from playing in his home country now as well.
Yeah, that sounds like a pretty hefty violation of his rights
As an amateur, he has to abide by the rules of an organization he is not a part of (the KBO).
yeah
The poor kid was probably as clueless as the Orioles, and that’s a very harsh punishment but he did the crime.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
any idea when that MLB / KBA agreement was put into place?
DD has been out of baseball for 10 years….
2003.
http://www.koreabaseball.com/FILE/ebook/pdf/2011rule.pdf
The agreement starts on page 149 (PDF page 153).
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Irrelevant. The scouts should know that.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
I actually misunderstood holymittens comment entirely
you might have a point, mr. mittens
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Right
He’s a high school kid and a professional organization to which he does not belong is saying that he cannot play for another professional organization in the same business.
It would be like, I dunno, a doctor’s union (I assume there is one) telling a medical student they can’t go work in another country.
That may be a bad example?
Not sure, but I think the AMA includes medical students, but I guess it’s not a regulatory body
@sibsinExile
Ok
So it’d be like the NFL saying a high school player couldn’t sign with a CFL team.
The NFL has no rights to tell the high schooler what he can and can’t do. It only has the right to tell its own members what they can do.
But the KBO isn't obligated to hire...
…wait, forget I said anything. ;)
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
I'd say
The NFL saying, “hey, CFL, you gotta let us know before you sign our players” and then saying “Hey, kiddo, you didn’t listen…you’re not going to play for us”
Tommy hunter still sucks!
It's lame
but I think it would be hard to prove illegality over here. And Korean laws are bound to be different.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Yeah...
I think the issue would be with antitrust violations in the States. I’m not entirely sure that Korea has antitrust laws in the way that we would think of them.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know if it's illegal or not
I do know that it feels inherently wrong to me. That’s all I care about.
There are two organizations. The KBA and the KBO
“KBA has governed the domestic amateur competetions” – Wikipedia
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, I know
I’m talking about the rules agreed to with MLB, where it says they have to check with the KBO to see if it’s OK before signing any amateurs.
Are we sure that KBA isn't a co-signee to this agreement?
It would make sense since the rules deal with minors and they’re the responsible agency.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Even if they are...
It’d be a little bit like American Legion baseball saying that the MLB can’t draft any American without getting approval from them first.
Alex Len was suspended by the NCAA for 10 games...
… because of his status when he was overseas and not affiliated with the NCAA at all.
The NCAA could very well have ruled him ineligible to ever play.
Then again, the NCAA’s a bunch of nincompoops, so who knows?
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
I also think the NCAA is wrong, but...
Again, the NCAA isn’t saying “Ok, all you teams not affiliated with us. We’re not going to let you sign a guy who isn’t actually playing for any of our teams, but just plays the same sport our teams do and might one day play for us.”
I'm not sure about this.
What does it mean by a player “who is currently play or has played baseball in Korea”?
Does that mean playing baseball on any level in Korea? It seems pretty ambiguous.
Considering they're raising a huff about a high school sophomore
I imagine, yes, it means at any level.
It's an interesting thing though.
It’s unclear enough that I can see Duquette defending his actions based on the rule’s ambiguity.
Also, where is this from? Is it KBA or KBO? If it’s KBA, we’re probably screwed. If it’s a KBO rule, it might be out of their jurisdiction because they only govern the professional leagues.
That's an agreement with the KBO
KBA is the one banning the Orioles scouts from scouting players, though.
Like I said earlier, the KBA could be a side to that agreement.
If they are, it makes sense, but we don’t know.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
Yeah, I think you're right.
We should probably reserve judgement on this issue until we find out more about it.
I wonder if DD can appeal.
Given his fondness for Asian players, I imagine being shut out of the Korean market is a big blow to DD.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Verbatim copy
4) If a U.S. Major League Club wishes to contact and engage a baseball player, professional or amateur, who is currently playing or has played baseball in Korean and/or is under contract with a Korean Club (hereafter referred to as a “Korean Player”), the U.S. Major League Club shall first request that the U.S. Commissioner determine the status and availability of the Korean Player in the same manner that the status and availability of an American Player is determined hereunder. The Korean Commissioner shall respond to the U.S. Commissioner within four(4) business days. The U.S. Commissioner shall keep the identity of any U.S. Major League Club(s) inquiring of the status of a Korean Player confidential in communications with the Korean Commissioner.
6) If the Korean player is not one concerning whom approval must be obtained under paragraph(5), the Korean Commissioner shall so notify the U.S. Commissioner and the U.S. Major League Club may then contact and engage the Korean Player. If approval is required under paragraph(5), the Korean Commissioner shall transmit to the U.S. Commissioner the approval or disapproval of the Korean Club. If approval is granted, the procedures set forth in paragraphs(8) through(12) below shall apply.
Dropbox just got blocked for me
There goes my lesson plan repository access….
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
Probably fears of copyright infringement and/or a teacher having inappropriate files on the site.
Conservative minds that don’t really understand that those actions are independent of where the files are actually being kept.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Lack of knowledge re: technology
Is cross political spectrums. Not just conservatives. Plenty of libs were in favor of SOPA
I'm sorry...
I didn’t mean conservative as in the political definition. I did mean conservative as in used to the old-ways of classrooms being run and not knowing about the possibilities of new technology.
More from Steve Melewski and Daniel Kim:
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
I do appreciate Melewski reaching out to get an opinion on this issue directly from Korea.
In the Korean culture, the process is very important and respect is very, very important in Korean business culture and baseball culture as well. When that gets overlooked, they feel like the entire industry is disrespected.
I think that is important to consider. Even if the intent is not to be disrespectful, any actions that can be interpreted as such are going to become a big deal.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
umm he is 17, in high school
So how does this apply to him? He has never played for a Korean Club, didn’t sign his life away to Korea yet. And what about Shin Soo- Choo? I assume he was an ameauter sign?
Actually...
…didn’t sign his life away to Korea yet.
He will have to serve two years in the military.
Thank god it sounds like they finally got a greek debt deal done
good or bad, now everyone can just deal with it instead of constantly guessing what might happen
Do you really think that'll be the end of it?
Portugal is next, and then Spain and maybe Italy. The problem isn’t the crisis, it’s the system. It was bound to come crashing down at some point.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
Well to some degree its never over, but i don't really know enough to say for sure
this should allow for at least some greater degree of certainty though
The problem is that Greece (and other countries) don't want to change.
They think that they can stick with their current economic model and just screw everybody else.
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Has anyone ever had these Blue Diamnd soy-wasabi almonds?
i think they’d be my new favorite snack if they weren’t so expensive
Those blue diamond almonds are awesome. I prefer the line chilli and the plain salted ones. I can pretty much eat an entire container in one sitting which makes them even worse on the wallet
by brek on Feb 9, 2012 10:47 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Plain almonds aren't exactly cheap either
but i think i’m gonna look into making them myself at home
i dunno..
just got a pound at whole foods for 4.50
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by j.q. higgins on Feb 9, 2012 11:08 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
You could easily make that at home.
Whisk whatever liquid you want to use (soy sauce, lime juice) into an egg white. Toss the nuts in that with whatever spice you want to use (and maybe some brown sugar) and bake for 20 minutes or so.
If you want to super zing the limeness, zest your lime first then sprinkle it on the nuts after you take them out of the oven.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
by killertomato on Feb 9, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
It really is
what it largely interferes with is grocery shopping. I hate having to plan meals ahead, when i wasn’t working and living in the city, going to the grocery store every day wasn’t a big deal. Now its a whole ordeal.
I'm lucky I pick the bus up at a grocery store parking lot.
I go at least twice a week and don’t really have to plan ahead so I can still cook.
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by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
That is a good question.
I usually use pecans, so I don’t have an answer. I imagine raw almonds would work though. I’m going to try it tonight. I will report back.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
by killertomato on Feb 9, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I say puhcahn.
But I lived in GA for five years and they say it pee-can, and they basically own that nut, so I accept they are probably right.
"We weren’t playing for the playoffs, but we were playing for pride, and we showed it tonight."
by killertomato on Feb 9, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
semi-related
boiled peanuts are probably the grossest thing i tried when i lived in the South
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by Gamecock24 on Feb 9, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
but they're just so gross and mushy and bland and did i mention gross
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
aw, man...
love ’em.
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by j.q. higgins on Feb 9, 2012 11:51 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
there are no wrong answers
but that’s weird, Phil.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
my grandmother
“Grammommy” would make peek-in eggs every year at Christmas. Basically a big ball of nougat covered in pecans. I never really liked them but I got one every year.
Oh, NOW there are no wrong answers
Where were you last week during The Great Dumpling Debate™ ?
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K-Law top 100 prospects
Machado #4, Bundy #11, Schoop #56
Soo…Law recommends moving Schoop to 3B permanently to hardness his bat and reduce injury exposure.
I know we talk about the Machado, Schoop, Hardy Dilemma a lot so I’m not going to get into that. Just passing along some info.
Why not move Schoop to 2B?
If he has the range and agility for SS he should be able to grow into 2B and his bat would be more valueable there, wouldn’t it?
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Camden Depot tag him as a 2B/3B
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where bats in the hands of second basemen
are the killer.
I only rec daveh873. Not because he is the best poster on SB Nation, but because the NY Football Giants are the best football team in the nation.
Brian Roberts agrees.
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by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I still think that Machado puts on 20 pounds over the next two years and grows into 3B.
He’s also not as good of a fielder as Hardy (albeit in a small sample size from the minors, but Hardy is a very good fielder regardless).
Machado at 3B. Hardy at SS. Schoop at 2B.
The major disadvantage is that over the next year and a half, Machado and Schoop could be starting at SS / 2B and developing good chemistry.
Along those lines
The biggest risk for Machado will be that he outgrows shortstop as his body fills out, but that likely would come with a major increase in power that could carry his bat at third base. He has the arm, the hands and the athleticism to handle short, and the faster pro game didn’t faze him on defense or offense. At third, he’d still be an All-Star, but as a shortstop, when he reaches his mid-20s, he could be among the best players in the game.
You don't have the information you need to say Hardy is better defensively than Machado
in the present or in the future. You just don’t. None of us do.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I admitted that it was a small sample size and comparing minor league statistics to major league statistics is always risky...
… that being said, whether you like them or not, the statistics that do exist from 2010 and 2011 show that Hardy was a more consistent shortstop (and in my opinion, consistent means better).
Both Hardy and Machado similar range factors, so they probably get to the ball about equally. There might be a slight advantage for Machado on range factor. While it is an imperfect statistic and I know everyone here gets all giddy over trashing any statistic used before 2000, Hardy has a significant advantage in fielding percentage.
The conclusion that I draw from this is that Machado is probably getting to a few more difficult balls and that may contribute to some of the difference in fielding as he gets “tough” errors. However, the fielding percentage difference is more significant than the range factor difference.
With the limited information available, signs point to Hardy being a better fielder at SS right now.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
You aren't comparing them on the same level though
I suspect minor league fielding statistics are much more unreliable
ah, sorry
by the time i got to the end of that, i forgot about the top. I do think though that its so risky that doing so can’t lead you to any meaningful conclusions.
For whatever it's worth...
… Hardy had a slight advantage in both fielding percentage (.963 to .957) and range factor (4.63 to 4.55) in the minors over Machado.
Personally, I hope (and see) Machado has a trajectory similar to Ryan Zimmerman.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
fielding percentage and range factor are meaningless
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
This whole debate is meaningless
As you’ve said, there’s no way to determine that one is significantly better than the other right now.
As TL says below, Hardy will most likely not be on the team when this becomes an issue.
Additionally, Hardy will be ~32 when Machado comes up, meaning his time remaining as a reliable defensive SS is dwindling. If you move Machado to 3B forever, bring him up when Hardy is 32, you get 1-2 years maybe of Hardy at SS before you are looking for another SS again. It makes much more sense to me to move Hardy to 3B, assuming you are making the poor assumption that Hardy is part of any future plans.
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
True
look around at how many starting shortstops are over 30 years old nowadays. Those are rare, rare birds.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Jeets!!!!!
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by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Please, NY
Please keep Captain Groundout at a premium position where he can only cover half the ground of his peers for the next 5 years. Pay him ludicrous amounts of money to do this, and also bat him leadoff.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Virtually every scouting source I've read about Machado has said that he is going to put weight / muscle on his frame and grow out of the SS position.
If that’s true, it makes sense to get him accustomed to 3B now, rather than later.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
All scouts agree that 19 year old human beings, on average, gain more weight than they lose as they get older.
Noted.
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
The reports I've seen
say that many scouts think he will grow out of short, but that it is no certain thing.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
When? By the time he hits the majors? Or when he's 35?
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Well I think the point is
that you play him at short until he proves he can’t stick, because a good fielding, great hitting shortstop is as valuable as it gets in the game.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Yes, 100% agree
The notion that you permanently move Machado to 3B solely because an almost 30 y/o JJ Hardy is 5% better than him defensively based on unreliable metrics is ludicrous.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
any chance he'll play in the majors in 2012, 2013?
or is he more 2014…
Can't see him starting regularly before 2014.
Could get a lot of playing time as a 2013 September call-up, but anything faster than that seems too optimistic. And they need to stop rushing guys, anyway.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Now that is a question
2012 doubtful. But after that, assuming A) he’s still on his projected path and B) his growing pains in the MLB wouldn’t hurt the O’s because they are not in contention (hah), do you throw him in the deep end and start him in the majors? Or do you let him decimate AAA and get his confidence up before making the move?
This seems to be a case by case decision. Wieters took his lumps in the majors and seems to be getting better and better every year. Tillman and others got wrecked by MLB hitters at a young age and seem to be regressing. Maybe it’s a question of position players vs. pitchers? I’m not sure.
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
well, if he has a great year in 2012
then you play the service time game for sure, at least, in 2013.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I think it's pitchers vs position players
but that’s just a hunch. It’s probably a personality thing more than anything else…
Agree with your title
Terry Crowley believes it takes somewhere around 400 ABs before a guy can be comfortable at the plate.
That number might be 600, not sure. Pitchers need coddled way more, imo.
the other day someone was pointing that about about Tillman
that he was rushed to the bigs way too fast. So I assume that would mean we don’t see bundy till 2014-15?
god i hope not it's not 2015
that would give us too much time to screw him up in the minors.
for what it’s worth, in his prospects rankings today K-Law said he thinks we should be aggressive with Bundy and have him up in AA by the end of the season
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Yeah, he's not gonna be a SS much longer
Kid’s frame is built to add at least 20 pounds.
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I've actually seen quite a few that think he'll stick at SS.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
this
if he has a good first half, he quite possibly will be traded by the deadline…
I disagree.
Defensive statistics are by far the most difficult to figure out. Ideally, a complete picture is developed from considering a host of statistics. However, these don’t exist for minor league players.
That being said, players that excel on defense and put up good Rtot numbers also put up good fielding percentage and range factor numbers for their position.
No defensive statistic is perfect, but that does not make them completely meaningless.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
You could have stopped after
“However, these don’t exist for minor league players.”
Thus, I say “You don’t have the information you need” to say anything here.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I could have, but I didn't because, quite frankly, I wanted to continue and present my case.
When you don’t have all of the information you need, you make conclusions based on the information you have. Yes, I’ve committed the cardinal Camden Chat sin of using imperfect (but not meaningless) statistics. I guess you’ll either get over it or you won’t.
The limited information available indicates that Hardy is a better SS than Machado. Furthermore, that limited information indicates that Machado will grow out of SS and become a 3B in the future.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Machado will almost definitely move to third eventually, the question is when.
And will the O’s get a few years of him at SS.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
I feel like Hardy is going to be traded before either of these guys make it to the bigs anyways.
I can’t honestly imagine Hardy being here by the trade deadline next year unless he’s sucking.
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by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
I hope.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Damn.
I hope. His contract is too team friendly when he’s healthy for it to be wasted on a non-competetor.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
hahahahah good point.
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by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
I'd say he's proven to be good if healthy.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately that doesn't mean anything.
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by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
What do you mean?
He’s averaged 120 GP over the last 4 years. That’s not bad.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
Not disagreeing.
I’m just saying that it doesn’t mean much that he was good in the past. If he doesn’t play well over the next year and a half, he’s not going to bring back very much.
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by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
You think he stays through this year if he's playing well?
I’m not so sure he doesn’t get traded.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Wouldn't you say that past performance can be reasonably used to
project future results?
As I understood it, you and kba expect him to not be traded/ suck
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I think it can for a player in his prime.
I just don’t think anyone will care about his prior performance if he’s not playing well when they try and trade him.
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by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
True, but I think he'll be fine.
Even with a natural decline in ablitity because of age, he should out-perform his contract.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
I was really just being snarky
I’m not counting on him repeating last year, but i definitely think its possible
I don't think he'll repeat either, but I think it'll be close.
I think he breaks 4 WAR again if healthy.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Heh.
Apparently Machado ended 2011 in “Fredericksburg”.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
What do you think "org guy" means?
@keithlaw
Org guy. RT @Daniel_Delivery: Have you seen much of Joe Mahoney? wondering if the kid could have an impact in the big leagues… sleeper?
It means a guy who is just minor league filler
Someone there to fill up a roster but has no real chance of making a major league impact.
by Holymittens on Feb 9, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Organizational Guy
he means that he sees Mahoney as pretty much just organizational filler, nothing more than that
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by Gamecock24 on Feb 9, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A "get together" with more than 3 people.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
by NSOsFan on Feb 9, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
did anyone else know that the two guys in LMFAO are uncle and nephew?
because i had no idea until yesterday
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Everyday they're shuffling.
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by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know about anyone else
but I am slightly annoyed that Bergesen is going to arbitration. He should be thanking his lucky stars that the Orioles have not lost faith in him.
I like him and want him to return to form but asking for 1.5 million seems a little excessive when his value and performance have gone down every year.
I was just about to post something like this
That’s a 175% raise.
I like the kid, and I hope he finds and settles into a role on the O’s, but god damn. That’s a big raise for somebody that hasn’t proven, well, anything.
that's how arbitration works
just having service time is enough for a big time raise
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I like him and don't want to lose him
but I feel like not accepting the Orioles offer is a good way for him to get himself traded or cut and end up on another teams AAA roster with far less money.
I believe the hearing was yesterday and we'll find out the result today.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Bergy goes DOWN
Lost arbitration and will make 800,000 this year per tweet by Roch
When they look up from the gutter where their dreams have gone to die they will see only orange and black. -EME
he is lucky to be making that much
I hope he bounces back and I hope he isn’t upset the o’s didn’t give him a raise. Get back to close to 3 WAR and then we can talk raises.
Yeah,
I couldn’t see him winning that one.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Arbitration is such a game
he may very well have expected the orioles to really lowball him, in which case he only had to be closer to his “real” value by a dollar.
Yep.
I wouldn’t be surprised if, once the figures were exchanged, his agent was willing to settle below the midpoint, but Duquette seems like a hardass when it comes to arbitration and may have been unwilling to budge.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
I'm not sure that's fair
we don’t really know how Duquette views arbitration.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I think it's safe to say Duquette was not worried about hurting Bergesen's feelings.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously.
I did say “seems”. Perhaps the fairer thing to say is that if Bergy’s agent really thought he had a decent shot of winning once the figures were announced… maybe Bergy needs a new agent.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
It's likely that
Bergesen’s agent made a mistake in the figure submitted, but after that players rarely if ever settle for under the midpoint and it’s possible that the Orioles thought the odds of winning the arb case were so high they didn’t see the utility in even offering the midpoint (and they were correct, so kudos to them).
This is all guesswork, though, which leaves me uncomfortable.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I feel like there has to be an arbitration system that relies more on fairly valuing the player
and less on gamesmanship
I don't know
I think in this case the consensus around here is that the Orioles did a better job of accurately valuing Bergy than Bergy did.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
In this case, they probably did
but basing the award on the midpoint of two blindly submitted numbers is ripe for manipulation. The Orioles don’t think Bergesen is worth 800k any more than Bergesen thought he was worth 1.2M. They both took their best guess at what the other party was going to submit and went as far away from that number while still being closer to the average of the two. We can’t know for sure how close the arbitrator thought both parties were, but Bergy could have well gotten himself overpaid by only bidding 1.1M
good point
but what system could it be replaced with?
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I'm not sure
but if we’re assuming the arbitrator is really objective, I think you just allow each party to present their argument and then allow the arbitrator to award any number they thought fair
Yeah, sounds about right.
This is all guesswork, though, which leaves me uncomfortable.
I get where you’re coming from, I think, but I don’t think I’ve presented it as anything else, no?
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
no, of course not
I’m just saying…I’ve been trying to move away from criticism or praise of teams which is based on a lack of evidence. Ideally, I’d like to be opinionated only on things I can show my work on. I’m not always successful with that, but its what I’m trying to do.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Not a very surprising outcome.
So that just leaves Jones.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully there's no hard feelings
I seem to recall Rodrigo Lopez being a little ticked off at the way the club handled him (both in terms of salary and role)
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
That one is a little more interesting
Gut instinct 7.5 is a little high so far but I am not as upset about Jones’ request as i am about bergesen’s.
in arb cases
the point is not “Is Jones worth 7.4 million or 5 million dollars?” but rather “Is Jones worth more or less than the midway point, 6.2 million dollars?”
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I wouldn't be super opposed to 6.2
but would be expecting a nice year out of him and would be likely to get jaded a little quicker during slumps.
Dan C just tweeted "the sense is they could settle"
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
I'm still trying to figure out how he's on the team.
What up?
by snakethejake on Feb 9, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
3E1N
lucky to be in fucking baseball!
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by j.q. higgins on Feb 9, 2012 11:25 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
god damn you billy butler
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Feb 9, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
there's no room for gratefulness
America is not a land of consensus building, it’s a land of two sides fighting for everything and a (hopefully) impartial judge deciding who gets what.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
K-Law thinks Bryce Harper is set for a September call up!
That man is going to make the club out of spring training.
I hope he rakes in spring training and they still send him to AAA
so that we can see the youtube videos of his epic temper tantrum
Correction
I want to see him fail in the big leagues, personally.
by O'sFan21 on Feb 9, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Oh I dont mind him coming up but I relish any opportunity
to gripe about how much of a spoiled prima donna and I feel like him not getting the early call up would be good.
I think it would be good for the game to see the Nationals have a couple superstars
and be really good. Reinvigorate interest a little in the mid Atlantic region. Plus its boring always watching the Phillies and Braves be good.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Nationals success = bigger share of MASN revenue = less money for O's
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
the Orioles gameplan shouldn't be
hope the Nats do worse so we have more money. The Orioles need to take charge of their own destiny.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
by Andrew_G on Feb 9, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We are talking about the same Orioles aren't we?
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
This.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
No. Andrew got it right.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Do you have information about the MASN revenue sharing?
I would assume the ratio is fairly set. If the Nationals do well and MASN therefore does better, it may actually mean MORE money for the Orioles
There is a re-negotiation window in a year or two.
I read that one of the reasons the Nats made such a hard FA push this year was to be able to show more success and to get a larger share of the pie.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I don't care about "good for the game"
I want the O’s to be good and if that’s not possible I want everybody else to have bad things happen to them.
by O'sFan21 on Feb 9, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I would think you would like the Bravos because they seem to be doing things the "right way"
They developed a ton of young talent and didn’t really have to rebuild.
I’m over the Phillies, definitely.
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by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
I just want to see new uniforms in the playoffs, I guess
Royals-Nationals World Series would be awesome
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I think that's a bit of a myth
of course I am basing this on my own feelings…
but I would probably watch every world series game in its entirety if it was a royals-pirates matchup as opposed to seeing the phillies/cards/yankees/red sox where I only tune in at the end of games or when it gets to a game 6 or 7.
I think you're in the minority
I’ve never really seen the data, but I’d guess that TV ratings are tied more directly to the size of the media markets involved rather than any sort of intriguing storyline.
thats fine
but its not like MLB is going to fold up if they dont have one of the larger markets in a World Series once in a while.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
No, they wouldn't. And as a serious baseball fan, I would like to see other teams involved
But if i’m the guy who has to renegotiate the tv rights, i want a Yankees/ Red Sox / Angels / White Sox vs Mets / Phillies / Dodgers/ Cubs World Series every single year.
yeah... i realize I'm probably in the minority,
although, from what I saw, having two superbowl teams in NY and Boston vs Pittsburgh and Green Bay didn’t make a difference in ratings for the NFL.
Clearly, that’s a different situation because the Superbowl is more of an event for it’s own sake, and Pittsburgh and Green Bay are two of the more “storied” franchises in the NFL (credit to the NFL for creating a system where the 23rd and 70th largest TV markets are two of the most popular teams )
yeah
Pittsburgh and Green Bay probably have two of the highest bandwagon fan percentages in the NFL. People don’t stop following them even when they move away. And everyone watches the Super Bowl anyways.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
i think Cowboys fans would like to have a word with you about that statement
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
well Cowboys fans would still like to have a word with you
because they’re assholes like that
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
by Gamecock24 on Feb 9, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is something we can all agree on
Do we even have any Cowboys fans on this site? I’d imagine we wouldn’t because I’m sure they’re all Yankees/Red Sox/Phillies fans.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
my old roommate was from upsate NY
and was a Cowboys/Yankees/LeBron James fan that went to College Park so he rooted for the Terps as well.
we did not watch many sporting events together.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
If he wanted to complete that, he should have been a Duke fan.
When the fuck did we get ice cream???
I have a friend
Who roots for the Lakers/Cowboys/Yankees/Duke/Red Wings.
I don’t know what to do with him. You can have excuses for one of those, but all? I’m not buying that you grew up in in LA/Dallas/NY/Carolina/Michigan.
I love the Rochester Red Wings!
What’s wrong with them?
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
by Andrew_G on Feb 9, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was hoping someone
would go with Red Wing boots. Those things are amazing.
The real question is why are you friends?
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
We were in class together
I had worked with him on many a cs project before I was aware of his rooting loyalties…
Yea...there's an excuse for all of them.
Bandwagoner. Fits all of the above. Fair-weather fan fits all of the above too with the exception of the Cowboys.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Look at the NBA Finals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association_Nielsen_ratings
When you have LA, Miami or Boston, and then when you don’t.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
What's an NBA?
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be happy with that.
I’ve liked the Royals since I was a kid and I picked up the Nationals when they came to town.
-If- Since the Orioles aren’t going to make the playoffs, there are definitely teams that I’d rather see there than the Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, Rangers, or Phillies.
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I like when teams my friends don't like win championships
Basically I never want any team from NY, Philly or Boston to ever win a title. This Super Bowl sucked.
It’s funny how hardly anyone from the south really went to Univ. of Maryland but tons of kids from the north did. I don’t know anyone who supports the Braves, Panthers, Marlins, etc.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
I support this motion
Basically I never want any team from NY, Philly or Boston to ever win a title.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
that's because even the people that do live down in the South don't give a crap about those teams
not when you’re in SEC territory.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Heh...I actually know ONE person who is a Braves fan.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
One of my favorite memories of all time...
When John Rocker was still pitching for the Braves and shortly after the whole interview thing, Conan O’Brien had a bit where a guy dressed as John Rocker went around giving the finger to people and things from New York while generic rock music played in the back ground. They did this a few times, then forgot about it.
A few months later, Mick Foley was on the show. Mick is a big Mets fan, so they brought out the John Rocker character and then Mick Foley gave him the Mandible Claw. It was one of the funniest things ever.
Mick Foley?
you mean….MANKIND!!!
Only time in sports (entertainment) when being “dirty” meant the guy needed a shower.
that is funny though. I am going to check that skit out.
Did you see the Mick Foley guest spot on 30 Rock last week?
Also, Will Ferrell’s John Rocker on SNL was fantastic
What are you looking at, you HOMO MEXICANS
I’M JOHN ROCKER! I SIGN MY NAME WITH AN “X”
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Being from NC
Almost EVERYONE is a Braves fan, they are an ok group especially after the division title streak was snapped.
When they look up from the gutter where their dreams have gone to die they will see only orange and black. -EME
I am already drenched with Haterade.
Don’t ppl around here like Davey Johnson? If he says Harper is a good guy and can cut it in the Bigs then that is good enough for me.
Me too.
Although I’d be happy with other teams prospects working out if ours worked out better.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
I'd prefer that.
I would like to watch good, young, players continue to make the game as a whole entertaining.
Yea....I'd love to see every team in baseball competing at an incredibly high level.
So long as we’re still beating those fools.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
I love Davey Johnson
and I’m going to pissed as fuck when he makes the playoffs with the nats. Not that I really have any ill will for the nats.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
I say they delay him to deny him Super-2 staus and then bring him up.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
They're probably more worried about the extra year of service time than the money.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
actually, this makes by far the most sense
That’s a mid-May or early June callup, I think. Gotta get that extra year of service time.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
I thought they were talking about changing this in the new CBA? Did that not happen?
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Super Twos still exist
there’s more of them in fact. And the service time thing is still there as far as I know.
Your cannonball trajectory, it always gave me hope
Interesting, from W Post
In the past, it should be noted, the Nationals have not been slaves to the Super Two deadline. Closer Drew Storen will eventually become a Super Two player, since the Nationals called him up in early May of 2010. Jordan Zimmermann will also be eligible for arbitration this offseason.
Calm down
Not to be disrespectful, but this stuff happens all the time on the Korean Peninsula with foreigners. You didn’t think the national temperament changed that drastically south of the 38th parallel, did you? There’s a reason they used to call it The Hermit Kingdom
Some years ago, there were rumors swirling around the country that Leonardo diCaprio had insulted Koreans in a casual remark on the movie set. No one had any evidence, of course, somebody just said he did, and the Korean Internet got in an uproar. diCaprio finally made a contrite apology (even though he was probably innocent) and the incident blew over. Something similar happened to Meg Ryan. She actually did make a sly comment about the English slogan she was supposed to use in a local TV commercial, but it wouldn’t even reach the level of Grade C Internet snark.
Either the Orioles alone, or MLB, will negotiate some kind of settlement in which the Orioles make some contrite apology, and the ban will be lifted, just like the ban was lifted on the two other Korean HS players who played in the major leagues and came back to Korea.
I looked at a Korean language national newspaper on line today, and the story rated only one paragraph there.
Really, calm down.
um
what? Not sure I like your tone.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I think we have a cowboy honey bunny!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I think he was just pointing out
that your post made very little sense in the context of the OT discussion. No need to freak out about it.
Yes
It was a reply fail.
You posted an entire paragraph there referring to a bunch of stuff that happened way upthread. It’s courteous and customary to use the “reply” button in the original section so that we can keep discussions sequestered.
Otherwise, we wind up with a post saying “Calm Down” in the middle of an 800-comment thread and nobody has any idea to whom you’re speaking.
Thanks for the insight—it’s very informative. No need to get touchy on top of it.
"End of season like this, to make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day."—Robert Andino
Nick Johnson?
If he can’t make it are they considering David Segui?
Segui was actually their first choice.
However, he took a better offer with a team from the Senior MLB.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
For WW
http://www.andrayblatchesucks.com/
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I really don't think that website needs any content other than the title.
Says it all, really.
Tommy hunter still sucks!
Anyone watch Ink Masters?
Other than the typical really show “egos” of the contestants I like it. The judges really do a good job at explaining the different aspects of tattooing and how the contestants’ work reflect those aspects.
So, I was a little busy yesterday...
Fourth-seeded Wicomico High won Wednesday’s Class 2A-1A East Region dual-meet wrestling championship, beating No. 1 and unbeaten Parkside 45-31 in the semifinals before dispatching No. 3 Queen Anne’s 30-25 in the finals at Parkside High.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
Upset! Nice.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 9, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Both teams had beaten us in the regular season
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
Excellent!
Congrats on the victories. Were the regular season matches close?
Yup. 1 beat us by 11, the other by 12
Which in HS wrestling can be just one weight class making the difference.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
I'm just a volunteer now
but yeah, it was pretty sweet knocking off an unbeaten team and redeeming 2 of our 3 losses in one night.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
The next Bobby Heenan!
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
Good times.
Do you know who’s representing the other regions in state duals?
by Tezcatlipoca on Feb 9, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
No - 5 of the 8 regions got "snowed" out last night
We’ll know tomorrow.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
It snowed in md last night?
Congrats btw. Your kid wrestle or do you coach?
by dan o'hare on Feb 9, 2012 1:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes to both in the last sentence
but my son is only 11. I’ve coached in some capacity since 1994.
As far as the “snow”, Central MD counties called off extra-curriculars due to forecasts. I called my M-i-L at 7 pm last night to see how much snow was in Columbia, and she said “Oh, it’s almost covered the grass, but not sticking on the roads.”
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
ha!
Almost covered the grass…sounds about right.
So now we all know where Duck works
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Pretty much
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
New Pick 'em contest!
http://suntimes.upickem.net/upickem/contest/questions.asp?contestid=50026&weekid=1
Outguess Ebert.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
Adventures in terse press releases
RHP BRAD BERGESEN has been awarded the Orioles’ contract offer of $800,000 in salary arbitration, it was announced today. Bergesen, 2-7 with a 5.70 ERA (101.0IP, 64ER) in 34 games (12 starts) last season, had sought a $1.2 million contract for the 2012 season
I think that 2011 stat information pretty much sums it all up right there.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
Got to figure anyone where the team would submit a pay cut value would just end up getting non-tendered.
Actually, I was kind of surprised Bergesen was tendered at all. Maybe they figured win or lose he’d be so inexpensive there was no reason not to tender him.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
yes, probably
I was really being facetious with the pay-cut comment. I just find it crazy that he still almost doubled his salary after his performance to date. As Andrew said above, it’s just the way arbitration works.
I skipped class, who wants to play risk?
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
I shall partake in this computer activity.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
no mas
:(
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Wah wah wah :-(
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Can we wait about 20 minutes? Is that cool with TL, GC, and you?
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
15?
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
i'm going there for the first time on Saturday
i’m very excited
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Best everrrrrrrrr
Did you get the groupon or whatever it was?
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
nah
my parents are taking me out for a belated lunch and asked where i wanted to go. i said Matthew’s since i’ve never been there before and feel like it’s one of those Baltimore establishments everybody needs to go to at least once.
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
It's hard to get a seat, might have to wait awhile
Maybe try going at off hours.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Mathews pizza
and then walk across the street to Patterson Park to watch the latino guys play baseball is always fun.
Baseball nerd
Nah. There's this little place that's the best. You probably haven't heard of it.
It’s called Sbarro.
I'm pretty sure "tall" is English.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Clearly you don't love coffee enough if you ever order a tall.
And the other sizes make the coffee even better because the names are foreign. Foreign = better. DD knows this well.
The people at Starbucks always look at you funny for ordering a tall.
Its like venti, venti, venti, venti………..tall…………..venti, venti. They always pause at the tall.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
In all seriousness, I always try to make them feel silly for working in a place that has bougie names for coffee.
I always say “Uh, can I just order… a coffee?” To which they usually respond “Sure, what size?” and I say “Uh, normal?”
You're the rube they go home and blog about on their tumblr site that no one reads.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
I usually just say small coffee.
Rather than like venti half-calf, three pump, no whip, extra foam, two shot latte.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I guess I would know why this is funny if I had ever been in a Starbucks.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
I need 24 more stars to make it to GOLD!
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Lay off the caffeine, brosef.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
But zk is enabling me!
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
My name is Dave and I'm an alcoholic
I’m gonna get drunk on free victory booze!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Feb 9, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy says "gin and tonic" exists in all worlds.
I think coffee is also in this category.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I ordered a tall by accident once.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yea.
You definitely struck me a short guy.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
wha?
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
you must not have noticed the sarcasm font he was using there
clear eyes, full hearts, can't lose...
Very important question Michael
What neighborhood is it in?
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Banned.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
When the O's win 82 games, Stacey will buy you a pizza there.
"Work fast. Throw strikes. Change speeds." Ray Miller
I love Camden Chat joke callbacks.
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2012 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
This doesn't take into account demographics
95% of townies will say it’s in Highlandtown and 95% of yuppies will say it’s in Canton
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's a good idea
we’d have birdman design the survey so it would take all of those things into account
Need some kind of language question to separate the two groups.
Q: “What do you drink out of the faucet?”
The Baltimorean says, “Wooder.”
The yuppie says, “OMG, ew! We only drink out of bottles.”
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
That area of Baltimore is not Canton!
It’s like how rosedale area in the county is being called white marsh now.
Baseball nerd
I'm gonna pay those kids in your neighborhood to dump buckets of paint on the sides of your house next time
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
All the yuppies
in that area just call it canton because they can’t afford to live in the real canton neighborhood.
Baseball nerd
---
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
when this came up last time...
I decided the border is the alley behind the houses that front Eastern Ave on the south side. So every building on Eastern Ave is part of Highlandtown. No map would ever show it that way though.
Yes, and JP also decided that there was a mini-neighborhood called Patterson Park South Side
That ran the length of the park from the park to Fleet, and was about 1 block by 15 blocks in size.
...While you're waiting for moments that never come.
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Feb 9, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
my friend lives on Eastern ave few doors up from Mathews and the appraisers call it Highlandtown
Baseball nerd
hell I believe even
a few shops around Mathews is named highlandtown or at least was before the economy went sour.
Baseball nerd
WOOO
Kevin Goldstein @Kevin_Goldstein
The Orioles signed former Cardinals RHP prospect Stu Pomeranz, whose career was racked by injuries.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
disco stu doesn't advertise
"Three thousand years of beautiful tradition,from Moses to Sandy Koufax,YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I'M LIVING IN THE FUCKING PAST!"- Walter Sobchak
by j.q. higgins on Feb 9, 2012 2:46 PM EST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
Keith Law chat tidbits:
Snakes (Philly): The Orioles Guthrie to Colorado trade is… strange at best. What were they thinking in your opinion? Oh- and they are likely to sign Manny Ramirez too!!
Klaw (1:46 PM): At best, it’s a lateral move. And it’s probably a small step back.
Kevin (MD): O’s fan here. Talk me off my ledge and give me hope for the future Keith! Anything to look forward to other than Bundy or Machado?
Klaw (2:18 PM): Schoop, Bridwell, Delmonico. It’s not Houston, where there’s just very little talent. But you’ve got the worst owner in the game, and a GM operating out of a playbook so old it’s written on papyrus.
Jeb (Chicago): Thoughts regarding KBA banning Baltimore because of Kim Seong-min? Did Baltimore really mess up or is this not a big deal?
Klaw (2:20 PM): They messed up. MLB values its relationships with KBO and NPB, so I imagine they’re really unhappy. All this for a non-prospect, too.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Law gave a very different scouting report than what DD said about the kid.
I’m not so sure I trust Law on this one. I’m going with the guy who had scouts there (probably multiple times) recently.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
Did you just set that up?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
The first post was 4 hours ago.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
I know
Someone set it up today, Tweeted it to Law, and he retweeted it as “Hilarious”.
I happen to agree.
The one thing I'll say for Law on this
is that he doesn’t hate what the O’s do because they’re the O’s; he concludes that most anything the O’s do is futile because they’re owned by Peter Angelos.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
I can only find very flimsy scouting reports on Kim
Most say he has a fastball that sits in the high 80s and has a good curveball. I’m not sure how good that is, to be honest.
If he's 17, it's possible he could add some velocity to the fastball.
He could be the next Brian Matusz!
(Fuck, I just made myself sad.)
Haha on eof the articles eariler today
had a great comment from the KBA saying that they barely even know who the kid is because they wouldn’t have scouted him this year so they have no clue how the Orioles had even heard of him.
what DD said about the kid.
Given that DD would want to defend his move, I would treat his scouting report with some skepticism.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
He gave a specific fastball velo range, and was very clear on his breaking pitches.
Law said that Kim can barely hit 80; that’s 8-10 MPH less than what DD said. Also, DD has more to lose by being wrong, creditability-wise.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
There's basically no chance they would sign somebody that "can barely hit 80"
you can’t even pitch in college with that.
That's why I put what little faith I have in him abck in DD's hands.
Temporarily. Until he screws up again.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
Yeah, I gotta assume Klaw's going off wrong info there
Since I highly doubt he’s ever scouted the kid personally.
KLaw is clearly not converting from metric
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
That joke would work if kph were lower than their associated mph.
However, for example, 90 mph would be ~144 kph.
Yea, I know
that’s why it was just a joke
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Also, DD has more to lose by being wrong, creditability-wise.
Why? Let’s say that DD is wrong. What’s the ramifications? Petey fires him? Law loses readers by giving accurate scouting reports.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Battle of the narratives DD v Major Snark
via MASN
ESPN’s Keith Law said this about the signing via Twitter:
The O’s gave $550K to a 5’9" Korean HS lefty throwing 80-83 with no feel for a breaking ball. Nice use of savings from cutting pro scouting.
Duquette said Kim throws harder than that and the Orioles have seen him do it.
“His current velocity is 88 to 90,” Duquette said. “He throws hard. Some scouts may have seen him in a tournament where it was 30 degrees, basically freezing and they may not have seen the velocity, but we’ve seen this player several times and we’ve seen him work in a range of 88 to 90 mph.”
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
Can anyone honestly say they trust Keith Law on this more than DD?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
Yes. Law is paid to be objective. DD is not.
That said, Law could easily be wrong on this.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Law is paid to sell advertisements on space by making that space "interesting".
Law has chosen to make that space “interesting” by criticizing everything the Orioles do.
Law is paid to sell advertisements on space by making that space “interesting”.
Law is paid to attract readers. He does not attract readers by giving out false scouting reports.
Law has chosen to make that space "interesting" by criticizing everything the Orioles do.
Oh please with this nonsense.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
K Law fanboy in da houze!
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
and he has napoleon complex.
but whatever, being ass is irrelevant to his analytical work.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I disagree.
There is no such thing as true objectivity.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
obtaining perfect objectivity is difficult and most likely impossible
that doesn’t mean you can’t be at all objective or that objectivity isn’t something to strive for.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
He doesn't express himself very objectively
and I find it hard to believe that doesn’t affect other parts of his job.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
I would love to see some evidence of actual bias from him
And no, him saying that a particular move (or series of moves) is bad does not count as bias.
he's snarky, won't argue with that.
but that’s limited to his tweets and chats (not unlike here or anybody else’s tweets). his formal posts are usually pretty straightforward and professional.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Why the fuck would he write movie reviews?
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough.
Not sure why anyone would look to him for a film review though.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Why do people look for him toward for cooking or fiction advice?
Because they find him helpful.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Ok.
But If I wanted cooking advice I would go to a Julia Child cookbook, if I wanted film advice I would go to AO Scott or Roger Ebert, not a baseball writer.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Why go to him as a baseball writer?
Simply because he has the job of baseball writer does not specifically mean he is knowledgeable about the topic, after all. There are plenty of terrible writers who give out uninformed, wrong opinions about stuff all the time (Murray Chass, for example).
He’s funny, intelligent, knows a lot about various things, and in longer blog posts presents his arguments well. I disagree with several of his opinions on fiction (and don’t really read his blog because of that), but I understand why people would.
yeah, this
You should like or dislike a writer based on substance of his or her arguments not based on institutional affiliation. I like Law’s restaurant recommendations, but I don’t cook enough to know whether his cooking tips are any good. But if people like them, they should like his tips on their own merits not if he has some sort of institutional sponsorship.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
There are more reasons to go to him as a baseball writer than reasons to go to him as a film writer.
I see him as a supplemental opinion to anything not baseball related and I don’t care to supplement anything I read on film, or anything else not baseball related, with his writing. I get a little sick of everyone thinking they need to share their opinion on everything just because they can. I will stick to reading his baseball stuff. I see no reason to go to Law over someone who is credentialed and respected in the world of cinema.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
He's also not forcing you to take his opinion
Some people enjoy writing about a variety of topics. The internet is not a crowded room where you cannot avoid a person’s views on a topic if you wish to avoid them. He posts his reviews on his blog and those who don’t want his opinion don’t need to seek them out.
There’s no reason he shouldn’t post his opinions, however.
Right, I already said fair enough.
But there is no reason I should go out of my way to read what he is writing.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. That's that then.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Why do you think so?
This will be dragged out at least another 20-30 comments.
We are on CC you know.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
credentials can be overrated.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I suppose.
Credentials should still be respected.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah,
but in certain cases, appeals to authority are necessary. If I have cancer, I could take some biology classes and I try to learn about the disease myself and make myself as much as an authority on the topic as possible. But at the end of the day, I’m trusting the doctor over any amateur self diagnosis.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
True
Though in such a situation, you likely would not trust a doctor who said “Well, you have cancer, time to inject you full of deadly poison” simply because he was a doctor. You would look at the consensus opinion which says “Injecting yourself full of deadly poison will kill the cancer, because it will also kill you.”
"Well, you have cancer, time to inject you full of deadly poison"
technically, this is called chemo
by kba26 on Feb 9, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's still deadly poison.
And I speak from experience.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
it fucks you up, man.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Side effects are a bitch.
I lost like 35 pounds.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Nah dude
I’m trusting WebMD!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Whenever I have a problem I just ask Camden Chat.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yea...that's still better than webmd
If you put any symptoms into webmd, the general ddx is that you’re dying.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
then I do the exact opposite!
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
yeah, although there are a few people here I actually trust.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
I trust all of my dating needs to Camden Chat.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Yep.
For now anyways. Actively pursuing.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Well, if I had a sister, you’re my number 1 choice for her out of all the people on CC.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
awww i'm blushing!
Okay, not really, but I appreciate the vote of confidence.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Woah... woah... woah!
Well, if I had a sister, you’re my number 1 choice for her out of all the people on CC.
you're already married, bro.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
What if you had pick someone to turn your imaginary sister into lesbian? Who you got?!
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Cyber-bully!
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
Hahahahahaha.
Win!
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
NO, NOT A WIN!
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
the “who would you pick to do X out of all the people on CC” has to turned into a meme somehow….
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I wonder...
Well, if I had a sister, you’re my number 1 choice for her out of all the people on CC.
…if Stacey’s similar comment about me from a few weeks ago still applies, given the open thread on Tuesday… :P
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
I still like you, Vuff
But I don’t think any of my friends would go out with someone with such opinions on…what did you call it? Career feminism?
Haha, fair enough.
“Feminist careerism” is the phrase I used, I think.
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
I tell you, though
Today is one of those days I wish some man would swoop in and make me a housewife.
Prepetually
It’s almost entirely a function of my social phobias than a failure on Camden Chat’s part, though.
My recommendation:
Go outside. Find somebody you think is cute. Ask on date. Finished process.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
You're missing the social phobias part
I am fairly incapable of talking to someone who doesn’t talk to me first.
Me too.
I’m planning to change that however. More details later.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Peope need to learn about the UP button.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
The post at the top of the screen.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
That's what I said!
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
I was replying to kba.
You need to practice some.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
It moves you to the whatever comment the reply is to.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Helpful...
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
Steps 1 and 2 are complete.
Working on step 3. Hopefully that’ll kill off step 4.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Is her current boyfriend "step 4"?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I don't think that's an issue anymore
:-)
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Sounds like he's ready to nut in whatever direction he can
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Success.
And no, dave. Same girl as before. Just the single version as opposed to the “sorta in a relationship” version.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I could easily trust Law on this more than Dan Duquette
That doesn’t mean I do, or that I think he’s likely to be right. The jury is out on which side is correct on this issue.
In a vacuum I'd be more inclined to believe Law on something
but there’s just no way a major league baseball teams risks the bad publicity that has accompanied this signing for a guy that “barely hits 80.” That just would not ever happen.
lol
this is true. Nothing really shocks me from the O’s anymore, but this would totally shock me. I mean he will get totally eaten alive in rookie ball if he’s not hitting 80.
DD's considering starting him this season (!) in Delmarva
There is no way that could happen if he throws 80-83 with no feel for breaking pitches.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
Frankly I like Melewski's source
I am not sure either KLAW or DD have that much info on the kid. Link
While Kim Seong-Min did pitch for the Korean junior national team, Daniel Kim said he could not determine exactly how the player became known to the Orioles. Duquette said in this interview that Seong-Min Kim was scouted by Baltimore even before he took over as executive vice president.
“That is the most mysterious thing ever. Dan Duquette just became the GM of the Orioles. When did they have time to scout this kid, I don’t know. Dan Duquette sounded like they had been looking at this kid for a long time. Maybe he saw him before his appointment with the Orioles,” Kim said.
In cases like this,
the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Here we essentially have two data sources saying different things. I’m sure there are outings where Kim was able to hit upper 80s, as DD’s scouts report. Whether or not he does this on a consistent basis, I don’t know. I also think Law’s scouting report were correct, but it’s possible that his reports only caught outings where his velocity was down.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
In reality that's probably true
but only Law is not saying “I’ve heard reports of velocity as low as x” – he’s saying “he throws 80-83.” That’s a lot different than what DD is saying which is that their people specifically saw him throwing in the upper 80s.
I'm talking about the scouting accuracy of Kim?
If DD mischaracterizes his fastball, what’s the ramifications besides signing a crappy player?
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
Yeah, I should have left that part out. It made sense in my head before I wrote it.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
risk is up for those involved
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
oh...shit...sorry.
I was taking care of some……business.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Does "Annyong" really mean "hello" in Korean?
can’t seem to get this internets to translate for me…
yes, very informal form of hello.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
It depends...
“Ahnyeung hasayo” would be the most common way of saying hello.
“Ahnyeung” would be reserved for greeting children.
“Yabosayo” would be used for saying ‘hello’ on the phone or when you’re calling out to say ‘hello’ to someone you can’t see.
While we're at this,
is it just me, or is Korean romanization a lot harder to intuit correct pronunciation from than Japanese?
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
Significantly harder.
I can’t romanize Korean for shit. I have to write everything in Hangul and then try to convert it over based on what I learned. I can’t just think of how it’s said and write it romanized.
i'm korean but korean is shitty.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
my korean is shitty
so is my english.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
I lived there for a year once upon a time...
… at that time, I could get around town and not starve to death.
Now, I’ve probably forgotten 75% of what I knew.
Chinese is also difficult
Someone tell me how Cao Cao is pronounced like “tsao tsao”.
Damn you Pinyin!
That's true
I know how to pronounce most Chinese words once I see them written in Pinyin. It’s just not intuitive.
The Wade-Giles was slightly more intuitive, but it had issues, too.
Pinyin was created by Beijing, though… so of course it’s going to have some oddities.
this is sad
I’m so bored at work today I am reading about Arrested Development, even though I’ve seen it probably 5 times…
hey hey
Got my NYG SB Champs long sleeve T in the mail today.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 4:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Wait... the Giants won the Super Bowl!?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Feb 9, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think so.
But I get all my football news from CC and I heard a rumor that the Redskins won, or should have won or something.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Well I'm certain if the Giants won it must have been luck-based
and those don’t count, right?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Yeah, I'm pretty sure whoever is predicted to win the SB before week 1 automatically gets the trophy.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Holy crap!
I went to see who the hell the Nationals are with my Prodigy search function. Did you know the Expos moved!!??
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Mel Proctor's on the Sports Reporters on ESPN 980 right now
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
BTW, invites have been sent out to most of the participants of the keeper league.
I set it up on ESPN because they have the deepest player universe.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
Bwahahaha.
Orioles scouts have been banned from events sanctioned by the Korean Baseball Association.
Somewhere basebally in Korea
Korean Guard: Halt! Do you work for the Orioles?
Orioles Scout: Um…no.
Korean Guard: Are you sure?
Orioles Scout: Why would anyone ever lie about working for the Orioles?
Korean Guard: Of course. Carry on.
http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/2/9/2787789/blacklisted
"Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs." -- Earl Weaver
These are not the droids you are looking for.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
A slew of new fanposts
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
Is it just me or are there two fanposts that are the exact same?
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
They're evil twins!!
But which one to delete? BUM-BUM-BUUUUUUM….
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
I can't delete them, but I am going to hide the one you didn't comment.
The only difference is the spacing, which he can just edit.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
These are the people whose emails I couldn't find for the keeper league.
Parkinglotninja
Gamecock24
AMD
HM
Luke
jq
Westie, you said you have everyone’s email?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
I does, I will send them to you.
I don’t think Luke ever posted his though.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
oh, um...
this is awkward.
if you’re asking me out, i don’t think i’m interested. nothing personal.
(crumb12 at gmail dot computer)
this IS akward
b/c I wasn’t asking you out. But if i had to pick someone on this blog to ask out… I really don’t know who it would be.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
which direction is akward?
is it toward Alaska? “which direction to Sarah Palin’s Russian spy house?” “Why, that would be AKward.”
sigh, I am horrble @ spelin that is y I alwayz tri to avouid writeing in the subjekt lyn.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ten-Q
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
I sent you the other 4.
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Got it. Out they go.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
PROTIP:
Do not end your day by having a 20 lb weight fall on your head from 2 feet above you. A CT scan of my head found nothing. Make of that what you will.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
Out of all the people on CC, if I had to pick someone who was found to have nothing in his or her head after a 20 lb weight was dropped on it, I would pick you.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
is he though?
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
by WestcoastO'sFan on Feb 9, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Not exactly taking that as a compliment...
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
Proud member of Trainyard Sleepers, BECW: S2
I was hoping prior rapport could work here.
Kevin Gregg-"You obviously haven't acquired my taste for pitching yet"
owwww
I got a headache just reading that. Are you dizzy? Do you know where you are right now?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
How many fingers am I holding up?
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 10, 2012 2:48 AM EST up reply actions
question for educator:
How long has such a thing as “mid-winter break” existed? And is it BS?
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
by dfa on Feb 9, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
We always had it growing up
It broke up the semesters. 1st semester ended in late Jan, 2nd started in early Feb, with a week off in-between.
I hope you got a chance to have a bit of fun with this
Like if someone asked you your name you could have gone with
“Arthur, King of the Britains!”
or
“I am Cornholio! Are you threatening me???”
The possibilities are limitless.
"You should put the secret group of people that you carry with you on your tech equipment second to the person you're sitting with."
- Merrill Markoe
I'd go with this classic
Not going anywhere for a while?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
ha!
I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before…
Well, it is 16 years old
Just one of those things that sticks in your head I guess.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
damn
I was going to go to the gym, but screw that…way to dangerous.
per What the F facts
“Watching an hour-long soap opera burns more calories than watching a three-hour baseball game.”
no wonder I’m overweight
Only half an hour?
"So I said, 'Looks like they've finally got Ogea in the pen. I wonder if the glove fits.' I thought I was going to get fired." - Mike Flanagan, RIP
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Dan @MyKBO
“Kim Seong-min is a student-athlete and we can’t really stop him going wherever he wants to go,” Jeong said. (KBO head of operations)
"I do think that socializing on the Internet is to socializing what reality TV is to reality."
Aaron Sorkin talks about Facebook - September 30, 2010
So the KBO is the exact opposite of the NCAA
Interesting.
"The plate is 17 inches, and I’m gonna use all 17 inches, and they don’t like it because they think they’re better than everyone else." - Kevin Gregg
At least we'll get him.
Please come back Koji, we miss you.
You done made my momma sad, Camden Chat. Shame on you. - duck
by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 10, 2012 2:50 AM EST up reply actions
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