Keith Law On Dylan Bundy
by Chris Buckley on Feb 9, 2012 12:53 PM EST
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I'm a big fan of Bundy, the only issue I have regarding him is that his draft demands were too mild. I would've preferred that he request something astronomical, so that he could have slid to the Sox at 19, oh well, can't win 'em all. I wrote about Bundy and Taillon at FakeTeams, the post contains insight from John Sickels of Minor League Ball. You can find that post here.
Below is what Keith Law had to say about Bundy in the top 100 he just released (insider required).
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Player |
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11 |
Dylan Bundy |
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Age: 19 (DOB: Nov. 15, 1992) Bats: Both Throws: Right Position: Pitcher |
Organization: Baltimore Orioles Top '11 Level: DNP 2011 ranking: IE |
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2011 HS STATS
- GM-NA
- IP-71
- W-11
- L-0
- ERA-0.20
- SO-158
- BB-5
- H-20
- HR-NA
- BAA-NA
How advanced is Bundy, a high school pitcher from Oklahoma taken fourth overall in the 2011 Rule 4 draft? One very senior front-office executive who saw him suggested the only reason Bundy wouldn't make Baltimore's opening day roster this year was his height. Aside from being "just" 6 feet tall, Bundy is about as perfect a high school right-hander as you'll find, boasting plus velocity, plus off-speed stuff, outstanding feel for pitching and a great delivery boosted by a legendary conditioning regimen.
He will sit 93-96 mph and touched 98-99 last spring, with a big, sharp upper-70s curveball and a vicious out-pitch cutter at 86-88 that he uses in lieu of his changeup to left-handed batters. The negatives are few; even his lack of height isn't a major concern, since he gets on top of the ball well and works down in the zone. He was worked extremely hard in high school, including a 180-pitch outing his junior year that earned some criticism on the national level, and no matter how well your arm works, an outing of that length includes some pitching while fatigued, especially for an 18-year-old. I'd like to see Baltimore handle Bundy aggressively, getting him to at least Double-A this year if his performance in the low minors follows our expectations.
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That Law suggested we be aggressive with him. Yet that won’t happen unfortunately….
moving quick
was a key reason the Orioles took Bundy. I’ve heard numerous times he could and should debut much sooner than the normal high school pitching prospect, though this is the first time I’ve actually seen someone lay out a proposed plan of action. I don’t see any reason to have him debut this year though, not when that team is so far from contention, it certainly won’t hur them any to delay his debut one to two years.
by Chris Buckley on Feb 11, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Moving Slowly
First of all, you move quickly, not quick, as you are modifying a verb, otherwise known as an adverb. Therefore, I titled mine Moving Slowly, which is what I want to do with Dylan.
Bundy is a high school pitcher. He is facing the kid who works selling Slurpees at 7-11 on the weekends. No matter how good he is – and I do not dispute that at all – it will be different facing real batters. Hell, even A-ball is more or less a high school all-star team. And major leaguers will wait on the slightest mistake and hammer it 450 feet, one after another after another..
The Orioles move anyone who is any good far too quickly . That’s one of many reasons why we suck so badly. By the time he sees the majors, he is psychologically ruined and, the O’s being the O’s, probably physically ruined as well.
Let the three biggies to date – Machado, Bundy, Schoop – come up more or less at the same time, assuming their rate of growth remains the same. This would accomplish two things – it would allow them to know one another’s good points and bad when they get here, and allow them to learn the game and improve together.
We hear way too often about the Oriole Way, which has been long gone for a good thirty years now. We are so far away from it, it has become a barfarama joke just hearing the phrase.
But doing what I just described, i.e., allowing these kids to physically grow into men together and discover one another together and learn the same fundamentals together so that they will be on the exact same page when they arrive in Baltimore more or less together, will mean that for the first time in thirty years, a few good men will have done just that – gone through the system the Oriole Way.
Priceless.
Duq,, take your time. We are coming in last place this season regardless of what you do, so no need to push anyone beyond his limits. When he’s ready – and that won’t be long – you’ll know..
since you started off with some grammar nazi pointers
I assume there’s some significance to the double periods and double comma you included in your comment?
dude
when you start off with something as rude and condescending as that first paragraph, no one is going to care what else you hae to say.
banhammer banhammer!
I demand blood!
by TerroristFistJab on Feb 19, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
im not sure what this is
at first i thought i was receiving an english lesson… but then i read this… “But doing what I just described, i.e., allowing these kids to physically grow into men together and discover one another together”…. and now im all confused. is this your studio pitch for a brokeback mountain prequel? youre talking to dan duquette in a rather casual way, im guessing you think ang lee might read this too.
anyway, your “plan for development” doesnt really make sense. you’re proposing that the orioles stunt bundy’s growth in order for machado and schoop, two players who will only share the field with him 30 or so times a year, to learn about him and vice versa? thats counterproductive more than anything else. you dont base one playes timetable off of another, unless there is a direct relationship defensively, and even then id question how smart it really is. you’re not graduating the star pitcher and his battery mate together. a second baseman and shortstop need to have a feel for how each other play, their tendencies, their weaknesses and strengths, but they dont play a part in how bundy advances and at what rate. completely independent of each other.
by Chris Buckley on Feb 13, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, the BM joke was completely inappropriate
We don’t do homophobia here.
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
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Just give him a few weeks in Delmarva, please
I’d like to see him once!
"If there's a new way, I'll be the first in line. But it better work this time." - Dave Mustaine.
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Nice
I don’t get height requirements for pitchers. If he can through close to 100 and hits curves at 71 who cares how tall he is. It isn’t like he is a QB who has to be able to see over the line. And isn’t lincecum shorter than Bundy?
i was thinking the same
Lincecum is tiny. 5’11" 165lb.
by Jokes & Burns on Feb 10, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
someone more in the know can correct me if I'm wrong
but length (height) helps generate the power in a pitch. It’s not so much about the arm, as about the whole body’s torque, and a longer body makes a better throw. Lincecum is an exception, but he helps generate extra torque with his unorthodox delivery.
Not sure in what way Bundy is an exception, or if he is one. The concern can be, even if a shorter pitcher is generating a lot of velocity, how much extra strain is being put on his arm, and will it hold up?
Height
and corresponding limb length also allows you to get closer to home plate when you release the pitch making your velocity more meaningful. Somebody did an analysis of release point distance from home plate and it really varies a lot and the taller guys are capable of getting a lot closer and I think each x number of inches closer to home plate is equal to a gain of y mph. Can’t remember whether it was 3 inches=1 mph or what, but it was pretty dramatic.
Actually Lincecum is an interesting case because even though he’s short, he has an absurdly long stride and gets his release point pretty far out there, so he makes up for his lack of height by throwing ched and getting close to the plate.
The advantage with a tall pitcher is that he releases from a higher point and can throw at a sharper
downward angle. Also he releases the pitch closer to home plate.
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by J(O's)elskIL on Feb 11, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's really the distance to home plate
Height doesn’t impact arm angle at all, so a 6’6’’ pitcher throwing at a lowish arm angle could easily be releasing the ball lower than a 5’11" pitcher throwing 3/4.
Hopefully the Orioles won't ruin him.
As long as Selig is changing things in baseball, maybe he should ban the Orioles from drafting a pitcher who could have a promising career.
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