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Dennis Martinez

So I'm brushing my teeth last night with the ESPN Rangers-Astros game on in the other room and I hear them mention that El Presidente, Dennis Martinez is the Astros bullpen coach this season. I listen a little closer; Dan Schulman says some nice words and then its back to the game. One of the things he said got me to thinking. Those words were "245 career wins". "Wow", I thought. I never realized it was that many. I had followed him when he was an Oriole at the beginning of his career; he had some success, had alcohol problems, the press wasn't kind to him, then off to the National League. I knew about his perfect game and that he had pitched many years in Montreal; but two hundred forty-five wins? Wow. Here's the question that ran through my head: I've never thought him to be a HOF'er (and after looking at his stats still don't), but we've heard all this talk in the last couple of years about Blyleven vs. Morris. Why isn't Dennis included in the discussion. I'll spare you the stats (you're at work with time to waste too, you can look them up on Baseball Reference), but Dennis' is in in the same neighborhood as the other two. Not quite as good; some numbers are better; some are worse; but in the same neighborhood. Here are the stats that matter; HOF votes 2011: Blyleven 463 (elected) Morris 311 2012: Morris 382 2013: Morris 385 Not one vote for Dennis. Not even on the ballot anymore. I could not find historical vote totals. Did he not make the 5% hurdle early after his playing career? Did the writers screw him over. What? Anybody know? I'll go with "he was good but not great"; but if those other two are still getting hundreds of votes 20 years after their playing careers ended, so should Dennis. He should be in the conversation.

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