Non-Gibby chatter 12/07
Would that today were a day that would live in Orioles infamy, i.e., we released Gibby and pulled off a Bedard or Tejajda trade à la fois. But I knew FDR, and MacPhail is no FDR.
Nonetheless, in this holiday season we must keep our hopes up. So I call your attention to the LA Times and Daily News, both of which have Bedard on the brain, a full two days after the winter meetings ended. Sacré bleu!
The Times basically says the whole reason the Blues got Andruw Jones was so they could trade another outfielder for pitching, and the org. is apparently salivating over Bedard, not least which because Torre saw him shut down the Yanks. It also contains this intriguing quote:
Five years from now, he could be Willie Mays. He could also be Willie Mays Aikens.
The Daily News meanwhile, mentions Bedard in passing, saying he's a more likely target than Santana.
This is your late-morning cup of café. Discuss.
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I wish we could keep Bedard
But god damn, when I read some of these columns and how they talk about Bedard:
"The Dodgers' field personnel love Baltimore's Erik Bedard, an aggressive hard thrower who was third in the American League in strikeouts and fourth in earned-run average.
"He is a left-handed version of John Lackey, only five months younger.
"And, yeah, Torre loves him because last season, he was 2-0 with a 1.29 ERA against the New York Yankees."
Sigh. Bedard was one of the few reasons that the 2007 Orioles were tolerable, and he's going to be gone and kicking ass on another team in October:
"Either pitcher [Bedard and Santana] would cost them Matt Kemp. But either would put them in the playoffs. And, as Jose Lima would tell you, who knows what could happen then?" (LA Times)
It's hard to say goodbye.
It is hard. Very hard.
But everything isn't equal. Bedard is probably NOT going to sign an extension here, and why should he? He can get as much or more money from a team that has a reasonable chance of winning. We don't. We've all said it and we all know it; if we are not going to win in the next two years, then trading Bedard is the only thing to do, so long as we get back some top flight players in exchange. And remember...technically we have until July 31, 2009, to trade him. I think his value is highest NOW, mind you...but if we don't get a deal done in the offseason, there is always the trading deadline. And the Dodgers sure do have a lot of quality OFers. Excluding Juan Pierre.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 7, 2007 12:34 PM EST reply actions
There are good arguments either way
- Bedard is the best trade bait we've had in maybe a decade: phenomenally talented, good contract situation. We need LOTS of good players. We can get 2 guaranteed, with a crapshoot on a third, for Bedard. He is one of our best chances to getting back to respectability fast.
- His injury history. Sign him for seven years? If his curveball blows out his elbow in 2010, then you're stuck. Well, someone is stuck. If we trade him it won't be us.
- He wants to go. In fact, if you read between the lines, most of the Orioles players want to go. The only ones that don't are has-beens that are enjoying their twilight years, and new kids who are just happy to be in the bigs. To deal with the Orioles-are-poison cloud that hangs over the franchise, we really do need to clean house. We need a lot of kids who gel together and are excited about being in Baltimore.

It's just a question of arrogant self-entitlement against drunken limp-dicked self-loathing--DaBB
3 Part Plan...
- Get a bunch of kids who are happy to be in the bigs.
- Start winning.
- THEN they will be happy to be in Balt.
"Killing a Yankee fan -- is that illegal in this state?" -- Homicide Life on the Street
Bedard vs. The Future
I've got to say that all of the names I see floating around in the Dodgers potential trade are good, solid names. Kemp, Ethier, LaRoche, Hu, Kershaw... if they've taken Broxton off the table & are so reluctant to trade Kemp, I'll gladly sub Ethier in Kemp's place.
Kershaw, Ethier, LaRoche, and Hu would make this a no-brainer for me.
If we can swing Tejada to LAA for Brandon Wood we can move Hu to 2B & then there's no need for Iguchi. Roberts to CHC for Pie & others and we suddenly have a very dangerous OF.
OF: Kemp/Ethier - Pie - Markakis
IF: LaRoche - Wood - Hu - ????

Our fans are better than yours.
Yeah...
by silverstadium on Dec 7, 2007 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of Fantasy Baseball
by brooklynlovesorioles on Dec 7, 2007 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
LA
Bierd: Best pick in the draft
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-best-major-leaguers-50000-can-buy/
A Carl Pavano pox on him...
Wait a sec...I guess I am wishing him ill will afterall.
Keep 'em; Lose someone else.
He' still available...and you cannot deny "Santana, Bedard, Guthrie" sounds pretty good. These guys could actually shutdown the Yanks and Sox for at least a couple playoff games. Getting Santana would also lock up Bedard for a few more years...
Lets be honest, Miggie is slowing down. And, innocent until proven guilty, the Mitchell investigation is going to out A LOT of players. Don't be surprised if more Orioles are in it...
Throw in Ramon and the Twins will do it. We could probably get a good prospect position player for him, which is exactly what we are looking for.
(If not Santana, at least Bartolo Colon)
We keep Roberts. We keep Markakis. We still got Mora (healthy) to play 3rd.
Also, we need to consider throwing some offers at some free agents. Do I hear Mike Cameron...? Or Steve Finley. We gotta have Steve Finley money, right?
Let's do it!
by airkel2369 on Dec 7, 2007 3:16 PM EST reply actions
(wagging a finger in spiral motion at my temple)

It's just a question of arrogant self-entitlement against drunken limp-dicked self-loathing--DaBB
my dear, zk...
by jq higgins on Dec 7, 2007 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
They might take the deal if we threw in Gibby....
post subject
who have supposedly been offered do the deal.
Also get rid of Tejada ,Huff, Bynum, Payton
we need to get visably younger.The pen needs
overhauled & we need a closer.How much clearer
can it get ? Start the trades NOW.
by hagersbush on Dec 7, 2007 3:39 PM EST reply actions
Well, yeah ...
"Killing a Yankee fan -- is that illegal in this state?" -- Homicide Life on the Street
Shocking new photo!

He's baaaaaaaaaccccccccccccck....
Friend of the Working Man
by Jonnypops on Dec 7, 2007 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
+1 RobG

It's just a question of arrogant self-entitlement against drunken limp-dicked self-loathing--DaBB
I find it hard to appreciate country music..
if the dumbass was gonna go on a radio show, it should have been for singing, not for talking about his special alone time.
by dfleis on Dec 8, 2007 11:46 AM EST reply actions
actually
by dfleis on Dec 8, 2007 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Trade Bedard Or Not??
Trading Bedard...
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 8, 2007 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Cardinals and Bedard
...um
by dfleis on Dec 10, 2007 7:46 AM EST up reply actions




















