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Bob McCrory

#31 / Pitcher / Baltimore Orioles

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May 02, 1982

W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Bob McCrory 0-0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0.2 2 4 4 0 4 0 54.00 9.00

Numbers: Norfolk Tides

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Name/Pos AB AVG OBP SLG HR RBI BB K SB/CS
Luis Terrero - OF 68 .309 .413 .471 1 14 10 14 3/1
Chris Heintz - C 50 .340 .370 .440 0 4 3 5 0/0
Chris Roberson - OF 65 .308 .425 .385 1 13 13 11 4/3
Eider Torres - 2B 74 .338 .390 .405 0 11 7 10 4/3
Oscar Salazar - 1B 85 .271 .297 .424 2 16 4 14 2/1
Alex Cintron - SS 35 .257 .316 .371 1 5 2 8 0/0
Mike McCoy - IF 39 .231 .375 .308 0 1 9 10 3/1
Sebastien Boucher - OF 30 .300 .344 .333 0 2 2 12 2/0
Tike Redman - OF 70 .271 .325 .314 0 7 7 6 1/2
Adam Stern - OF 57 .263 .317 .316 0 2 4 9 5/1
Mike Costanzo - 3B 73 .205 .289 .329 2 8 9 28 1/0
Omir Santos - C 33 .212 .316 .273 0 3 5 8 0/0
Scott Moore - SS/3B 42 .143 .234 .190 0 1 3 13 1/0
Travis Brown - IF 9 .111 .111 .111 0 0 0 1 0/1

Nobody's hitting much, and nobody's hitting for any power. Costanzo's K-rate is absolutely terrible. Torres came up because he hit a bunch of singles -- and also because Hernandez and Fahey are just as bad, and also because there are still maybe some problems in valuing talents within the system. There's really no reason for a veteran like Cintron to be farting around in AAA when he would be the best option for the O's at short. Moore has been horrendous since his demotion, and now he's not even getting the reps at short, with Cintron playing. So why is he down there while Fahey and Hernandez and Torres are all wasting time in Baltimore? Luis Terrero continues to be a fine minor league player, leading the Tides in OPS.

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Name G GS IP ERA WHIP BB K W-L SV
Garrett Olson 5 5 24.1 1.85 1.36 11 25 1-1 0
Hayden Penn 5 5 29.1 5.52 1.40 9 18 1-1 0
Radhames Liz 4 4 21.2 5.82 1.38 6 24 0-2 0
Jon Leicester 4 4 15.1 4.70 1.70 7 13 0-1 0
Craig Anderson 6 3 22.1 5.64 1.34 2 17 1-0 0
Bob McCrory 9 0 10.0 1.80 1.40 5 6 0-2 4
Lance Cormier 8 0 16.2 1.08 1.02 5 12 1-1 0
Andy Mitchell 8 0 13.1 2.70 1.20 6 7 3-1 0
Alberto Castillo 8 0 11.2 2.31 0.86 2 8 1-1 0
Roberto Novoa 8 0 8.1 3.24 1.68 4 7 0-0 1
Esteban Yan 8 0 8.0 6.75 1.63 4 10 0-1 0
Ryan Bukvich 7 0 7.1 4.91 1.77 6 9 2-0 0
Jim Johnson 1 1 4.0 2.25 0.75 1 2 0-1 0

Olson has been a shining star, and the peripherals for Liz and Penn are encouraging, particularly Liz's. Leicester taking starts is a little weird, since he doesn't even average four innings per. McCrory and Cormier have anchored the bullpen, but McCrory still has his problems. If Cormier or even Alberto Castillo keep pitching well, they could wind up contributing this season when the inevitable injuries hit the 'pen. Or if not contributing, at least lending more hope than dead veterans Yan and Bukvich do.

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Minor League Roundup: April 22-23

Norfolk 8, Richmond 7 (14 innings - April 23)

The Tides were off on the 22nd, which essentially gave them three straight days off, although they probably had uniforms on the previous two before getting rained out against Durham.

This one went long, with Jon Leicester throwing 79 pitches in three innings of working before handing it over to Andy Mitchell for three. Craig Anderson threw an inning, followed by one from Roberto Novoa, two from Bob McCrory, three from Lance Cormier, and one from Ryan Bukvich, who got the W.

Alex Cintron singled Eider Torres home in the bottom of the 14th with one out and the bases loaded for the winning score. On the day, Cintron went 2-for-6 with 4 RBI. Mike Costanzo was 2-for-5 with a walk and a solo homer, his second on the season. Torres went 4-for-7 with an RBI. Scott Moore was 1-for-4.

Bowie 7, Connecticut 3 (April 22)
Bowie 3, Connecticut 2 (April 23)

In the first game, Jason Berken went 5 2/3 with eight strikeouts and a walk for the win. At the plate, Jonathan Tucker, Ben Davis and Sebastien Boucher all had two hits, and Nolan Reimold was 1-for-4 with a pair of runs scored. Davis and Tucker each had two RBI.

On the 23rd, Chris Tillman put together a five-inning start for the win (4 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 5 K), with Felix Romero, Gerardo Casadiego and Julio Manon shutting the Defenders down the rest of the night. Zach Dillon was 3-for-4 to pace the Bowie offense. Sebastien Boucher had two RBI.

Frederick 4, Wilmington 1 (April 22 - Game 1)
Frederick 2, Wilmington 1 (April 22 - Game 2)
Wilmington 4, Frederick 3 (April 23)

Wieters Watch! 1-for-7 over the three games. OH GOD.

Rowell Watch! He's back in the lineup. That's good. Rowell went 3-for-9 over the three games.

Brandon Erbe threw a complete game (7 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K) in the double header. Nobody else did too much worth noting.

Lake County 7, Delmarva 1 (April 22 - Game 1)
Lake County 11, Delmarva 1 (April 22 - Game 2)
Delmarva 6, Lake County 3 (April 23)

Game one: Delmarva made seven errors.

Game two: Delmarva made four errors.

Game three: Delmarva made no errors! Matt Angle hit a homer.

I'm not doing a photo for any of the players today because there just aren't that many available, so enjoy this:

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via sportsillustrated.cnn.com

[Note by SC, 04/24/08 10:07 AM EDT ]: He was never the toughest out in baseball.

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Minor League Roundup: April 16

Louisville 6, Norfolk 4

Scott Moore started at second base and went 0-for-4 with three strikeouts, leaving him hitting .133 with seven whiffs in 15 at-bats since being sent down to Norfolk. He's always going to be a high-strikeout hitter who is prone to bouts of streakiness. He's picking a bad time to slump, I'd suppose, although I'd take the Norfolk version of Moore over Brandon Fahey anyway.

Veteran catcher Chris Heintz was 4-for-4 on the day, but didn't score a run. Radhames Liz got beaten up a little, going five innings with eight hits allowed, giving up six runs (five earned) and two homers. He walked one and struck out five. Lance Cormier and Bob McCrory both had scoreless relief appearances.

4632Erie 11, Bowie 10

Well, the Bowie bats have come around. But they lost this slugfest on a Max St. Pierre single in the bottom of the ninth with one out, which scored Dusty Ryan from second base. The hit was to left field.

First, the pitching. Starter David Hernandez went four innings, allowing eight runs (four earned) on six hits and three walks. Hernandez struck out eight. Gerardo Casadiego gave up just one run in three innings, but Jim Miller blew the game and took the loss for the Baysox, giving up two in one and a third.

At the plate, Jeff Nettles was 3-for-5 with four runs scored, and hit two solo homers, including one in the top of the ninth that tied the game at 10. Luis Montanez was 2-for-5 with a two-run homer, and had three RBIs on the day. Kennard Jones also had a three-steak day.

And even though the Baysox rapped out 11 hits and scored ten runs, Nolan Reimold continues to flounder. He was 1-for-5 with an RBI triple. He's hitting .180/.259/.280 so far.

Mike Rodriguez and Ben Davis both had two hits.

Salem 13, Frederick 6

The Keys winning streak ended at four, and Brandon Erbe got wailed on out there. But first...

Wieters Watch! He was 0-for-3 with a strikeout. Start the panic!

Erbe went five and a third, and Salem got nine hits and seven runs (six earned) off of him. He allowed three home runs, walked one, and struck out five. Erbe started his day much like Adam Loewen, giving up a double, a single, and then a three run homer. Three batters, three Salem runs. Mark Ori hit two homers off of Erbe.

Frederick had a 4-3 lead after two, but it disappeared pretty fast. Leading 7-4, Salem piled on six runs in the top of the seventh, just murdering Kyle Schmidt. None of the runs were earned, apparently. Hey, whatever.

Brandon Tripp hit a homer for the Keys.

Delmarva 10, Hagerstown 1

Matt Angle was 3-for-6 and David Cash was 4-for-6, making the Shorebirds' 1-2 hitters a pretty deadly punch on the day. Cash had a three-run homer and four RBIs total.

Tyler Henson and Joseph Nowicki had two hits apiece, and Ryan Adams was 4-for-5.

Zach Britton and Cliff Flagello teamed up to dominate Hagerstown. Britton went five and a third and gave up a run on six hits with two strikeouts and a walk. Flagello pitched the other three and two-thirds, striking out seven and walking two, allowing only two hits.

RECORDS

Norfolk 5-9

Bowie 5-8

Frederick 8-4

Delmarva 7-6

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Minor League Roundup: April 13

Indianapolis 2, Norfolk 1

The Tides dropped this one in the bottom of the ninth on a meltdown from closer Bob McCrory, following an outstanding start from Hayden Penn. Penn went seven innings, allowing just three hits and one run. McCrory took the ball in the eighth, and got through one and a third before allowing a single to Steve Pearce, beaning Craig Wilson, and eventually giving up the game-losing single to Kevin Thompson.

Catcher Omir Santos was 1-for -2 with a double and a walk, and Sebastien Boucher had two hits. Oscar Salazar, Chris Roberson and Eider Torres also got base knocks. Scott Moore started at shortstop and batted third, and went 0-for-4 with two strikeouts.

Bowie @ Akron, PPD/Rain

The Baysox start a three-game set in Erie tomorrow.

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Wieters Watch! 0-for-2, but he walked three times.

The Keys offense exploded for 13 hits on the day, with Brandon Tripp leading the charge, going 3-for-5 with a couple of solo homers. Chris Amador also homered, and Daniel Figueroa had three hits. Chris Vinyard was 1-for-3 with two walks in a rare start at first base, as Brandon Snyder got the game off.

Jacob Renshaw improved to 2-0 on the season, going seven and two-thirds with six strikeouts. He allowed three earned on four hits.

Lakewood 7, Delmarva 4 (11 innings)

The BlueClaws dropped three in the top of the 11th and Delmarva was unable to answer.

Pinch-hitter/left fielder David Cash had an RBI walk and an RBI single in the game, and the keystone combo of Jonathan Tucker and Pedro Florimon, Jr., had two hits each, and Tyler Henson was 1-for-5 with two RBI.

Tony Butler pitched six innings, giving up two earned on five hits and a walk, striking out four. Cliff Flagello took the loss in the 11th, giving up the three Lakewood runs.

RECORDS
Norfolk 5-5
Frederick 5-3
Delmarva 3-5

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Minor League Roundup: April 10

Norfolk 3, Rochester 0

The Tides took three of four from the Red Wings with a shutout win last night, preparing to head out on an eight-game road trip to Indianapolis and Louisville. Jon Leicester pitched four innings of four-hit ball, and Andy Mitchell went to 2-0 with two innings of relief. Following Mitchell, Lance Cormier went two innings and Bob McCrory picked up his third save by working the ninth.

Mike McCoy was 2-for-3 with a double two runs scored, and Luis Terrero had a double. Tike Redman, Eider Torres and Sebastien Boucher had one RBI apiece. Norfolk is now 5-3 on the season.

4625 Bowie 7, Akron 5

David Hernandez struck out six in five innings of work, allowing just one run, and only a meltdown by Rommie Lewis, Jr., in the ninth inning made this one close. Lewis allowed four runs in an inning and two-thirds, upping his early season ERA to 12.71. Julio Manon got the final out for his second save.

The Bowie bats finally came alive, as Nolan Reimold was 1-for-2 with a first inning, three-run homer, his first of the season. The blast plated all three of Bowie's first three hitters of the game. Jeff Nettles also went yard for the first time, connecting on a solo shot in the eighth.

Carlos Rojas was 2-for-5 with two RBI, Jonathan Tucker went 2-for-4, and Kennard Jones went 3-for-4 for Bowie. The Baysox are now 3-5 and riding a three-game winning streak.

Kinston 6, Frederick 5 (16 innings)

Wieters Watch! Matt got the day off initially, but did get a single in a pinch-hit appearance. The Keys made it a 5-4 game in the top of the sixteenth inning, but Kinston struck back with two runs on three hits in the bottom of the inning. To be fair, they got those hits off of Chris Amador, who started the game in left field and went 3-for-7. God bless minor league baseball. Amador also had the team's lone extra-base hit, a triple.

Brandon Snyder was 2-for-7 with three whiffs, and Chris Vinyard went 1-for-7 with five strikeouts. The Keys stand at 3-3.

Lake County 5, Delmarva 0

The Shorebirds fell to 2-4 after being blanked by the Captains. Matthew Angle, Joseph "Balls" Mahoney, Anthony Martinez and Pedro Florimon, Jr., had Delmarva's only hits, all singles except for a Martinez double.

On the mound, John Mariotti had a fine start (6 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 4 K) but just got literally no run support.

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Minor League Roundup: April 8

Norfolk 6, Rochester 5

The Tides faced recovering stud lefty Francisco Liriano in his second rehab start of the season, touching him up for three earned on five hits over four innings. Liriano struck out three and walked three. He'll be up with Minnesota again soon. These things aren't so much about the results as the arm strength and things of that nature.

Veteran Casey Daigle took the loss for the Red Wings. Hayden Penn got the win for Norfolk, going 5 2/3 and allowing four earned on eight scattered hits, with three strikeouts and a walk. Much better than his first disastrous start of the season. Bob McCrory got his second save, and Esteban Yan and Ryan Bukvich both pitched.

At the plate, Luis Terrero was 3-for-3 and fell a home run short of the cycle. He also walked twice and drove in three runs, but despite getting on base five times, did not score. Eider Torres scored twice. Mike Costanzo was 1-for-4 and Adam Stern went 2-for-3. Jon Knott went 3-for-4 with two RBI for Rochester.

Norfolk is now 3-3.

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The Baysox finally got their first win of the season thanks to two four-run innings and a nice start from Chris Waters. Waters went five scoreless, two-hit innings with four strikeouts and no walks. Gerardo Casadiego allowed all three Reading runs in the top of the ninth. Between them, Felix Romero threw two scoreless innings.

Second baseman Jonathan Tucker had a big game at the plate, going 2-for-4 with four RBI. Ryan Finan was 3-for-4 two doubles and an RBI. Nolan Reimold went 0-for-3 with a walk, making him 4-for-24 (.167) for the season.

Bowie is 1-5.

Frederick 8, Kinston 7

Wieters Watch! The future All-Star was 2-for-3 with a walk and two RBI.

Chris Amador and Chris Vinyard also had two hits for the Keys, and Vinyard hit his first homer of the season. Jacob Renshaw, who turns 22 on April 29, got the win with a sloppy but effective five inning start (1 H, 3 BB, 2 K, 2 ER). Jason Burch got his second save, a one-outer in the ninth.

The Keys jumped out to a 7-2 lead before having to hold off the Indians. Frederick is 3-1.

Lake County 5, Delmarva 3

The Shorebirds were able to rap out just four hits on the night, two of which came off the bat of Joseph "Balls" Mahoney. Both of Mahoney's hits were doubles. Joseph Nowicki had two RBI.

Tony Butler took the loss, but had a solid start. He went five innings, giving up three earned on three hits, with no walks and three strikeouts. He gave up a solo home run to Captains third baseman Karexon Sanchez -- great name. Delmarva is 1-3 on the year.

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Minor League Roundup: April 6

Ph_400073_mediumNorfolk 2, Buffalo 1 (Game 1)
Norfolk 9, Buffalo 8 (Game 2)

The Tides swept a double-header at home against Buffalo in two seven-inning contests. Jeremy Sowers pitched all six innings for Buffalo in the opener, giving up just one earned run but taking the loss without run support. Jon Leicester went 3 1/3 for the Tides, and Alberto Castillo-Betancourt got the win in relief. Bob McCroy picked up his first save of the season. At the plate, Eider Torres was 1-for-3 with a double, and Oscar Salazar had an RBI.

In the second game, Buffalo grabbed a big 8-3 lead in the top of the seventh with a three-run inning, and Norfolk came storming back with six in the bottom of the inning for the win. Mike Costanzo singled Tike Redman in for the winning run. Redman scored three times, going 2-for-3 with a walk and an RBI. Rich Rundles walked in two straight runs for Norfolk on behalf of Buffalo to set up Costanzo's winning hit.

Radhames Liz went 4 2/3 with seven strikeouts. Salazar, Sebastian Boucher and Adam Stern all had two hits in the game, as well. Salazar and Torres had two RBI apiece. The Tides evened up their record at 2-2.

Erie 5, Bowie 0

The dreadful Bowie lineup continued to have serious problems, scattering five hits in the game that finalized a four-game sweep at the hands of the Seawolves. Mike Rodriguez, Nolan Reimold, Jeff Nettles, Jonathan Tucker and Kennard Jones had one hit apiece. Rodriguez also walked!

This team is going to have major difficulties winning ballgames with their lineup if Wieters and even a couple more guys don't get up there to help them, fast. They are awful. Bowie is 0-4.

Lynchburg 9, Frederick 3

The Keys got just two hits on the day (one each from Brandon Snyder and Paul Winterling) and were thus steamrolled by Lynchburg. Wieters went 0-for-3 with a walk and a run scored. Snyder and Winterling had an RBI to go with their base knocks.

Pedro Beato had a rough debut for the season, going just 3 1/3 and allowing four earned on six hits with two walks and a strikeout. Frederick is 2-1.

Hagerstown @ Delmarva, PPD

What was to be Tony Butler's first Shorebirds start was rained out.

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Minor League Roundup: April 4

1207362000_mediumBuffalo 4, Norfolk 3

Garrett Olson was shaky in his first outing of the year, which follows Hayden Penn getting murdered in the Tides opener. Olson went four innings and allowed just three hits and a single run, but he walked six and threw 75 pitches (38 strikes). Bob McCrory wound up taking the loss when Ben Francisco scored on a sac fly off the bat of Brad Snyder in the top of the ninth. Oscar Salazar had two doubles for Norfolk. The Tides are now 0-2.

Erie 8, Bowie 3 (11 innings)

Yep, Bowie allowed a five-spot in the top of the 11th, and only managed three hits over the entire game. Chorye Spoone went 4 2/3 innings, giving up eight hits, three earned, with two walks and four strikeouts. Rommie Lewis, Jr., was the goat, giving up the five runs (four earned) in the 11th. Jeff Frazier was 4-for-6 with a homer and five RBI for the Seawolves. Nolan Reimold was 0-for-3 with two walks.

Frederick 7, Lynchburg 3

Welcome to professional baseball, Matt Wieters. Our prize prospect was 2-for-3 with two homers and a walk, scoring three times. And Jake Arrieta? Dominated -- 4 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 9 K. Bad news, though: Billy Rowell left the game in the bottom of the first, when he reached base on an error. Brandon Snyder was 1-for-4, and Chris Vinyard went 3-for-4 with two RBI. Brad Bergesen got the win in relief.

Hagerstown 8, Delmarva 6

The Shorebirds held a 6-5 lead into the eighth, when my new favorite player, Cole McCurry, blew a save. Cliff Flagello took the loss by giving up two in the ninth.

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A look at the Norfolk Tides

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The AAA Tides kick off their season tonight with a game at home against Buffalo, so let's take a quick look at our boys in Norfolk.

The rotation should be a strong point, with (from left to right) Radhames Liz, Garrett Olson, Hayden Penn, Jon Leicester and James/Jim Johnson. All of them are at the point in their careers where they're available to be called up -- for some, that's good news, but for Leicester in particular, not so much.

I do root for Jon Leicester, who was once a high-ceiling prospect in the Cubs organization during the Wellemeyer/Mitre period, but he's never delivered on that ceiling. He went 0-11 with a 6.78 season in his last season with the University of Memphis, but was drafted in the 11th round of the 2000 draft just because he had really good stuff. Through the minor leagues, Leicester never once had a dominant season, though he fairly frequently had flashes of true potential. He smoked the International League last year while in Norfolk (3-3, 2.22/1.08, 65 IP), but struggled as usual once in the big leagues, posting a 7.59 ERA in 32 innings.

He was in the running for the fifth spot in the rotation this spring, but finished a distant third to Brian Burres and Matt Albers. It was to be expected. As far as the Norfolk rotation goes, Leicester is the one who probably, if you want to be honest about it, tops out at the level he's at. He's 29 now; if he was going to make a major league impact, he probably would have done it by now, though he might have a nice relief season or three in his arm.

Jim Johnson had a 4.07/1.43 ERA/WHIP at Norfolk last season, which was a big, big disappointment. As Baseball Prospectus put it, he's "the same pitcher he was three years ago; that made him one of the better pitchers in A-ball in 2005, but he was supposed to build on that, not stall." Johnson turns 25 in June. He'll need an impressive season.

Liz, Olson and Penn have already been discussed here recently. They should be a really strong front three for the Tides.

The Norfolk 'pen is filled with emergency call-up guys like Esteban Yan, Lance Cormier and Roberto Novoa. There's really nothing special there, except perhaps, maybe, for Bob McCrory.

As far as the position players go...well, that's a different story.

Only Mike Costanzo (pictured) is likely to really make any impact on the major league club. This is a pitching-heavy, hitting-light system, and Norfolk is your run-of-the-mill Triple-A team filled with minor league veterans and major league flameouts.

Among the flameouts is Tike Redman, a 31-year old ex-Pirates prospect who had numerous chances in Pittsburgh to win a major league job and never did so. After being out of the majors in 2006, Redman found himself in the independent boondocks last year before the O's signed him and assigned him to the Tides. At Norfolk, Redman hit .304/.372/.416 in 336 plate appearances, which is nothing special for a 30-year old outfielder who's had plenty of Triple-A experience, but it got him a trip to Baltimore for 139 PAs, where he hit an inspiring .318/.341/.462 and stole seven bases in eight attempts. He's not someone you should expect anything from (.253/.287/.327 at AAA Toledo in 2006, for instance), but good luck to him.

He'll be sharing the outfield most nights, I'd guess, with the returning Luis Terrero and Sebastien Boucher. Terrero, 28, hit .318/.367/.560 for Ottawa in 2006, but struggled between the White Sox and Charlotte last year. He's back in the O's system as a Triple-A filler.

I figure Boucher will get more PT than Adam Stern and Chris Roberson, but I could be wrong. And it also doesn't really matter. Stern's career highlight will forever be that inside the park home run against the United States in the World Baseball Classic, and Roberson can't play. Boucher has some wheels, like the other two, but is slightly younger. We got him in the John Parrish deal last year. None of them are going to be major league contributors, though Boucher has some nice on-base skills (.372 OBP in his minor league career).

The infield's best player, past Costanzo, is recent free agent pickup Alex Cintron, who is almost certainly going to be in Baltimore as soon as possible. Cintron is nothing special at all, but he beats the hell out of Luis Hernandez and Brandon Fahey, which is more unfortunate than anything. The O's probably want Hernandez to be able to play, but once he's past proving that he can't, Cintron will take his job. And Fahey is only there because the Cubs signed and released Cintron before the season started. If Alex had signed with the Orioles to begin with, he'd be in Baltimore right now.

33-year old Chris Heintz and Omir Santos will handle the catching duties. Heintz has been plugging away in the sticks since '96, when the White Sox drafted him. To put that into perspective, that was the second-to-last year the Orioles made the playoffs. The only way either of these guys sees major league time this year will be if Ramon or Quiroz live up to their reps and get hurt.

AAA is generally not the most exciting or interesting level of a minor league system, and that's true here, as well. It's a holding zone for fringe major leaguers in most cases. But 3/5 of this rotation could have beaten out Brian Burres this spring and I'd have been OK with that. That's something to pay attention to.

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CC.com's Fairly Well-Informed Top 20 O's Prospects

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One of the things I want to try to do with Camden Chat this season is focus more on what's happening down on the farm. All things considered, that's a huge part of the story of the Baltimore Orioles these days, which is a great, great thing. 

In the past, there just hasn't been a whole lot to talk about. Now, maybe there is.

I don't claim to be a great prospects brain or anything like that -- this is a list composed simply because I like making lists, I like prospect talk, and I can read stat sheets and scouting reports the same as any of you can. If you want to get better in-depth prospect analysis, I highly recommend, as always, John Sickels' Minor League Ball or Baseball Prospectus, among many others.

First off, there's one guy I left off that makes every O's list, and that's Jim Hoey. There is not a bigger non-believer in Hoey than me, probably. I firmly admit this, and you're free to think I'm an idiot. He's at least fairly well regarded by almost everyone else. Anyone who's seen Hoey pitch knows that he's got a big fastball that is straight as an arrow and nothing else. He's the new Matt Anderson. I'd be pleased as punch if Hoey proved me wrong, but I don't think that's happening.

Without any further ado, let's get talking about the kids that'll be spending most of their days in Norfolk, Bowie, Frederick, or Delmarva, plus a couple of cats that are already on the O's but haven't quite passed out of prospectdom just yet.

20. Bob McCrory, RHP

He's 26 years old and has lost a lot of time to elbow injuries. I still like him better than Hoey. He's on the 40-man roster.
 

19. Randor Bierd, RHP

Nice Rule 5 pickup from the Tigers, he put up a 5-to-1 K-to-BB ratio at Double-A Erie last season and is just 24. Bierd and I share the same birthday, too, which I just now found out -- he's exactly two years younger than I am. So happy belated, Randor, and congrats on making the team! Enjoy your sharp new suit.

18. Matt Albers, RHP

Already in the show last season with the Astros, he still came into 2008 more a prospect than anything else. He looked good in his O's debut on Opening Day, relieving a spent Jeremy Guthrie and at least holding down the fort at a 6-2 disadvantage. He went 4-11, 5.86/1.60 with Houston in 110 2/3 innings pitched in 2007. He'll wind up in the O's rotation before too long if Brian Burres lives up to his reputation.

17. Scott Moore/Mike Costanzo, 3B

They are the exact same player.

Moore was born on November 17, 1983; Costanzo was born on September 9, 1983.
Moore's career minor league line is .260/.348/.449. Costanzo's is .266/.364/.456.
Moore is 6'2"; Costanzo is 6'3".
Both bat left, throw right.
Both were willing to try any position necessary this spring. Costanzo gave catching a shot, while Moore was all over the place.

Moore was a nice pickup from the Cubs in the Trax trade, and we got Costanzo as part of the Tejada package, seemingly a throw-in more than anything else.

I have no idea how any system can have both of these players, but the Orioles have done it. The difference now is that Costanzo is a Norfolk Tide, while Moore is with the big club. We will also owe Scott Moore a debt of gratitude for being the player that pushed Jay Gibbons into the land of in-season free agency.

16. Pedro Beato, RHP

Got heavier last year, and lost some zip on his heater as a result, which led to him having a rather "ehhhh" sort of season at Delmarva (4.05/1.39, 106 K in 142 1/3 IP). He's 21, but that's not a promising season at all. We'll see what he does in '08 before rushing to any real judgment.

15. David Hernandez, RHP

23 years old. Gets strikeouts. Fastball/slider guy. Pitches a good amount of innings. Sickels says he has "sleeper potential," and the Prospectus regards him as a guy that might be "a few adjustments from taking off," or a guy that might never make them and thus never do anything noteworthy. I get all caught up in lesser-known guys with "sleeper potential," which is why I really liked Nate Spears. Judge for yourself whether or not that's a good thing.

14. Brandon Erbe, RHP

One of the great mysteries in minor league baseball last season was just how and why the young 2005 third-rounder was so terrible for the Keys -- 6.26 ERA, 1.58 WHIP, 14 homers allowed and 62 walks in 119 1/3 innings. The O's say they're working on his mechanics and all that jazz, but isn't every 20-year old pitcher working on his mechanics? He's still very, very young, but it's hardly encouraging for anyone as well-regarded as he was out of high school to bomb that hard at in A-ball. At 6'4", Erbe is no longer among the system's very tallest pitchers.

 

13. Brandon Snyder, 1B

Snyder is still only 21 -- in fact, he could only legally buy a beer in this country last November. He had an OKish sort of season at Delmarva last year (.283/.354/.422, 11 HR, 118 G) that won't get anyone excited but isn't rights for dismissal just yet either. It wasn't but a couple of years ago that Snyder came into the draft regarded by many as the best high school hitter out there. He was a catcher then, had a brief affair with third base, and now he's over at first. At every position he's been trying, he's now blocked by one of two guys, most likely. I really like Snyder because of that time his mom posted on CC (and just because I was excited about the O's finally making a draft pick that was worth getting excited over), but the realistic side of this is he'll need more power to carry first base, and he's not going to be catching. He's one of my favorite players in the system. And he whomped ass in the Hawaiian Winter League, which re-fueled my hopes for Snyder's future.

12. Troy Patton, LHP

No matter how the Birds or anyone else spin it, Patton losing the 2008 season due to the dreaded fabrum bear is not good. It's also nothing to take lightly. Andy MacPhail and everyone else can say, "Aw, we knew he was hurt," and then the beat writers can go, "Wow! That must mean he's really somethin' else! If they traded for him as the centerpiece of a major deal! And knew he was hurt the whole time!"

That sort of makes the beat writers Ham Porter to Andy MacPhail's Squints. "You guys, he knew he was gonna do it the whole time!"

Does this put Patton into the role of the absurdly-named Wendy Peffercorn? I always imagined that Wendy Peffercorn would go on to live a normal, happy life while not doing anything particularly special, so I fear that Patton just might be Wendy after all is said and done, married to Andy MacPhail.

11. Tim Bascom, RHP

Fine college pitcher at Central Florida, he started his pro career with indy league Bradenton before the O's picked him up and shuttled him off to Delmarva, where he did pretty damn well for an undrafted free agent (3.74/1.25 in 67 1/3). Another good story type of guy, easy to pull for. Plus, his name sort of sounds like Tim Lincecum.

10. Hayden Penn, RHP

Penn's first stint in the majors was not impressive, and the second time around in '06 was even worse. But he wasn't ready for it either. He was killing at Ottawa in 2006 before he got hurt, and pitched in only four games last year at Norfolk, plus five in rookie ball on a rehab assignment. As crazy as it sounds, I like Penn more now than I did in 2005 when he was considered to be our top pitching prospect. To be fair, it could just be that I fear this happening again.

Tony Butler, LHP

9. Tony Butler, LHP

The third-most promising of the guys we got from the Mariners, Butler is 20 years old, 6-foot-7, and has yet to pitch above Low-A ball. He's got a good fastball but needs plenty of work on his secondary stuff. Lots of scouts really like him, but most scouts are going to get behind any 6'7" lefty with heat. Plus I can't pass up an opportunity to show Butler in his Aquasox get-up. To quote our own zknower, "What was it, free bong-hit night?"

8. Chorye Spoone, RHP

Under most circumstances, I wouldn't get behind someone named "Chorye Spoone" as a viable major league player in the future. "Chorye Spoone" looks like the name of a very marginal NBA role player who has a brief 15 minutes of fame as a fan favorite for hitting a game-winning jumper or playing tight D on the opposing team's star one night, or the name of a gimmicky college quarterback at a small 1-A school who leads them into a fourth-tier bowl game to get manhandled by Minnesota or Cincinnati. But he improved dramatically in 2007, posting a 3.26/1.15 line at Frederick after going 3.56/1.53 at Delmarva the year before. His K-to-BB was drastically better (133-to-67 after 90-to-80), he gave up way less hits, and his groundball percentage was seven and a half points better -- he is a groundball pitcher, so that's good. I still don't know about his name, but I'm believing for the time being.

7. Garrett Olson, LHP

When I was a kid I knew a dude named Garrett, big ol' fat young man, generally a really nice dude, but kind of rough around the edges, too. He had a strange way of speaking. Once, at the Glad-Peach Festival in Coloma, Michigan, Garrett showed to me with great pride his new chain wallet. "It's got a e-goo on it," he said. It had an eagle on it, indeed.

That's why I like Garrett Olson. Plus he had nice numbers in AAA last year.

(For those mildly interested, the Glad-Peach Festival is named because of the town's peach output, as well as something to do with gladiolus, which I've never figured out, really, because it's not like there's a great abundance of them as far as I could ever tell. The festival is held in a town with a population of roughly 2,000, its greatest asset being Paw Paw Lake, a small body of water that is home to mostly Chicagoan-owned summer houses, and used to be a place of great Al Capone significance, or at least some Capone significance.

The festival is, historically, a one-street hillbilly brawl. I love it.)

6. Chris Tillman, RHP

Don't pay much attention to his A-ball numbers. This dude was born the same year that the Orioles started off 0-21. He's got real deal type of stuff. Also, the California League is heaven for batsmen, and not so much for the hurlers. His control is spotty, but he's young and immature physically, at 6'5" and a listed 195 pounds. It'll be years before we catch a whiff of him at Camden Yards, but here's looking forward to it.

5. Jake Arrieta, RHP

The Orioles took a calculated risk on Arrieta by drafting him in the fifth round after a bust senior season at TCU, giving him and agent Scott Boras first round money. He slaughtered the Arizona Fall League, has a big, sturdy frame (6'4", 225), and is a polished college product that could work his way up through the system like a bolt of lightning. I think the O's made a very wise decision to snap Arrieta up when they had the chance.

4. Nolan Reimold, OF

I know I've been skeptical toward Reimold in the past, and I still suggest than anyone should be. But for pure hitting ability, Reimold has the goods. After displaying "pretty good" power for a while, Reimold killed the ball at Bowie while healthy in '07, hitting .300/.365/.565 in 203 plate appearances. He's not a big batting average guy, but he's shown good patience at every level and his power keeps getting better. At 24, some might have hoped for more from him at this point. Injuries are the only thing holding him back, but injuries are also a real holder-back.

3. Radhames Liz, RHP

Have you noticed how many pitchers are on the list? This is the last one. While the system is pretty dry for position prospects, the pitching is in fine shape, and Liz is perhaps the best of the bunch right now. He's the one that combines ceiling and readiness the best at this point, as he still has room for real improvement, but has also already seen the bright lights of The Show, and had a fairly legit chance to win a rotation spot this spring -- or, at least, as much chance as guys like Penn did. Liz is 25, so he should really get a move on, and the Orioles should see what they've got. He put up a 6.92 ERA in 24 2/3 IP for the O's last season, but big deal. He's got his command problems, like basically everyone else in the system, but big deal. So does Daniel Cabrera, and they keep letting him take the mound. His long-term future may be in the bullpen, where his electric fastball could make him a legit shutdown late-innings guy. But here's hoping we get a starter out of him. You've gotta like his arm.

2. Billy Rowell, 3B

Richie Sexson! He could be like Richie Sexson! He's tall! He strikes out a lot! Bats lefty, throws righty, he has real problems actually batting lefties. He will eventually wind up at first base after being drafted as a shortstop out of high school. He'll get all the hometown favoritism possible, most likely. Rowell upstaged Snyder; Wieters upstaged Rowell. But Billy's still a damn good prospect.

1. Matt Wieters, C

Duh. All this dealing with Scott Boras is good, I figure. To get in good with Boras can't be bad, considering the type of talent he represents. Wieters was regarded by many as the best player in the 2007 draft out of Georgia Tech (also producers of Jason Varitek), did pretty well (.283/.364/.415) for Honolulu alongside Snyder this winter, and he has it all. He's a plus defender, a guy who can hit for average, and he has power. He could be not far off from competing with Joe Mauer every year for the starting catcher spot on the American League All-Star team. He's that good.

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