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The Changing of the O's - Pitching

Every starter for the O's since 2007, with number of starts in parentheses. Only Guthrie has survived. 2010 is the list of starters currently in the O's system who could make the rotation at some point. I didn't include Koji or Hendo as they'll hopefully be in the bullpen the entire year. One thing I'll say for the O's in 2009 is they cut down on the slop (Adam Eaton excepted).

2007 Baltimore Orioles
2008 Baltimore Orioles
2009 Baltimore Orioles
2010 Baltimore Orioles
Daniel Cabrera (34)
Daniel Cabrera (30)
Jeremy Guthrie (33)
Jeremy Guthrie
Erik Bedard (28)
Jeremy Guthrie (30)
Jason Berken (24)
Brian Matusz
Jeremy Guthrie (26)
Garrett Olson (26)
David Hernandez (19)
Brad Bergesen
Steve Traschel (25)
Brian Burres (22)
Brad Bergesen (19)
Chris Tillman
Brian Burres (17)
Radhames Liz (17)
Rich Hill (14)
Jake Arrieta
Garrett Olson (7)
Chris Waters (11)
Chris Tillman (12)
Troy Patton
Adam Loewen (6)
Steve Traschel (8)
Koji Uehara (12)
David Hernandez
Jon Leicester (5)
Brian Bass (4)
Mark Hendrickson (11)
Jason Berken
Radhames Liz (4)
Adam Loewen (4)
Adam Eaton (8)

Jaret Wright (3)
Dennis Sarfate (4)
Brian Matusz (8)

Victor Santos (3)
Matt Albers (3)
Alfredo Simon (2)

Victor Zambrano (2)
Alfredo Simon (1)
Chris Waters (1)

Kurt Birkins (2)
Lance Cormier (1)


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The Changing of the O's

2007 - Pre-MacPhail. 2010 - Based solely on current players. How much have we improved, really? Discuss. Is it fair to say that the only position where the 2010 Orioles are worse off than the 2007 Orioles is shortstop?

All lineups are based on who played that most games at that position in each year.

2007 Baltimore Orioles
2008 Baltimore Orioles
2009 Baltimore Orioles
2010 Baltimore Orioles
C: Ramon Hernandez
C: Ramon Hernandez
C: Matt Wieters
C: Matt Wieters
1B: Kevin Millar
1B: Kevin Millar
1B: Aubrey Huff
1B: Luke Scott
2B: Brian Roberts
2B: Brian Roberts
2B: Brian Roberts
2B: Brian Roberts
3B: Melvin Mora
3B: Melvin Mora
3B: Melvin Mora
3B: Ty Wigginton
SS: Miguel Tejada
SS: Juan Castro
SS: Cesar Izturis
SS: Cesar Izturis
LF: Jay Payton
LF: Luke Scott
LF: Nolan Reimold
LF: Felix Pie
CF: Corey Patterson
CF: Adam Jones
CF: Adam Jones
CF: Adam Jones
RF: Nick Markakis
RF: Nick Markakis
RF: Nick Markakis
RF: Nick Markakis
DH: Aubrey Huff
DH: Aubrey Huff
DH: Luke Scott
DH: Nolan Reimold

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MLB Trade Rumors Predicts Delgado to the Orioles

Whatddya say, Carlos? Interested in donning the orange and black? (AP Photo/Henny Ray Abrams)

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Whatddya say, Carlos? Interested in donning the orange and black? (AP Photo/Henny Ray Abrams)

MLB Trade Rumors has released its list of the top 50 free agents for 2010 along with predictions where each will end up. They give the Orioles one player on the list: Carlos Delgado.

My first instict was, "Thanks, but no thanks." Delgado is old as the hills and he was injured most of last year. After I let it marinate for a few hours, though, I think I may be warming up to it just a bit. Don't get me wrong, it's not a signing that excites me, but it sort of goes along the same lines as signing Jim Thome. If he's healthy, Delgado will probably give you 25-30 HR and an OBP in the mid 300s. He'd be a risk given his injury last year but that might also make him 1) something of a bargain, and 2) willing to come to the Orioles because there isn't much of a market for him. His injury, by the way, was a labrum tear in his hip, similar to the injuries by Alex Rodriguez and Chase Utley, both of whom came back with no further problems (but neither of whom are 38 years old).

An argument against Delgado (and Thome, for that matter) is the fact that the Orioles have been pretty horrendous against left-handed pitching, and he doesn't provide much help in that area. While he has a career OPS of .806 against lefties, in the past few years they look more like this: .769, .752, .704, .789, and .965 (in just 26 games). While those are all higher than the Orioles team OPS of .691 against lefties, it's still not very impressive*. Even so, Delgado would still be an improvement as a 1B/DH.

So what say you? Yay or nay on Carlos Delgado?

*Also, just as aside, it's possible the O's will do better against LHP in 2010 just by virtue of not having Aubrey Huff (.650 OPS against LHP) and Melvin Mora (.690) in the lineup, not to mention possible bouncebacks by Nick Markakis (.682 OPS against LHP in '09, .843 in '08, and .751 career) and Ty Wigginton (.650 in '09, .840 career)

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Off the Market: Lowe, Smoltz, Hoffman

  • 41-year old Trevor Hoffman signed a one-year, six million-dollar deal with the Milwaukee Brewers. He still gets dudes out pretty well, but we thought the same thing when the O's signed Steve Reed a few years ago. Not that I'm putting Trevor Hoffman and Steve Reed in the same class since Hoffman might make the Hall of Fame, but...well, but nothing. Steve Reed stunk.
  • John Smoltz, who turns 42 in May, finalized a one-year, $5.5 million deal with the Red Sox. It will be damned odd for me to see Smoltz in anything but a Braves uniform, and he was the last of the Braves Big Three to look elsewhere for employment. Another guy with a Hall of Fame case.
  • Derek Lowe isn't over 40 and doesn't have a Hall of Fame case, but he's got a preliminary agreement with the Braves for a four-year, $60 million deal, just after the Mets balked at three years and $36 million. So you can take two things from this: (1) the Braves are not master negotiators, and (2) the Mets will probably be kicking themselves if Lowe has a good run in Atlanta. Frankly I thought a 3/$36 deal for Lowe seemed like a bargain, but whatever.

Around SBN for those teams: Brew Crew Ball, Over the Monster, Talking Chop

Also around SBN: Lone Star Ball and the Michael Young PR disaster

Elsewhere: Shots of the New Yankee Stadium, followed by a ton of ridiculous comments, some hilarious

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Orioles, ZAUN close to deal

If we do sign Gregg ZAUN (as it appears we will), I insist that we only call him ZAUN -- and always in capital letters.

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ZAUN: SERIOUS BUSINESS

Just in case you've yet to experience the thrill, check out ZAUN DOT INTERNET.

And bring your Z-GAME, you pansy!

In other news, Brian Roberts will not be marrying Fergie.

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Rosenthal: O's considering 39-year old Jim Edmonds at 1B

Edmondsds_medium From Ken Rosenthal via Roch:

Ken Rosenthal reports that the Orioles have shown interest in Jim Edmonds as a first baseman. I haven't heard this, but anything's possible. It would be a curious move, however, given that they'd prefer a right-handed bat.

Edmonds was a spark for the Cubs last season, hitting .256/.369/.568 with 19 homers in 250 at-bats after looking completely, 100% finished with the Padres. His decline began in 2006, and he's going to be 39 in June.

If he could hit like he did with the Cubs, he's a great help. Preferring a right-handed bat is ... well, whatever. Ryan Garko is a right-handed bat, but he's really not very good, and Peter Schmuck says he's told the Orioles and Indians have had no discussions about Garko anyway.

A few brief thoughts:

  1. Edmonds > Millar, period.
  2. If they think it's a good idea to run Chris Gomez out there in a platoon role at first base, they're bonkers. He's a nice guy to have around, but as much as I don't mind having Gomey back, he hit .273/.322/.333 last season with the Pirates. He's 38. It's about time his extended career collapses.
  3. Can't we just play Huff at first base, Scott at DH, and figure out Montanez or Reimold in left field during spring training? Adding a player for addition's sake seems silly, and with names like Richie Sexson and Jim Edmonds floating around, it's really all we're talking about.
  4. At least no one's mentioned Darin Erstad.

Poll
Jim Edmonds: Yea or Nay?
Yea!
113 votes
Nay!
161 votes

274 votes | Poll has closed

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Red Sox sign Brad Penny

370912977_156733a21d_medium From Yahoo:

The Boston Red Sox and pitcher Brad Penny reached a preliminary agreement on a $5 million, one-year contract, according to several reports Monday.

The team also struck a tentative agreement with catcher Josh Bard and both deals are pending physicals, the reports said.

Cheap and one season removed from being one of the National League's most effective pitchers. Meanwhile we fart about with the likes of Mark Hendrickson.

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2009 First Base: It's fan-tastic!

Sun via Yahoo:

Pitching and catching remain the biggest needs for the Baltimore Orioles, but there are some questions to be answered at first base as well according to the Baltimore Sun.

The club could install Aubrey Huff, who started 23 games at first last year, as the team's everyday first baseman. They also have had trade discussions to fill the vacancy, with the Texas Rangers' Hank Blalock among their targets. Kevin Millar, their everyday first baseman last season, Eric Hinske, Doug Mientkiewicz and Sean Casey are among the free-agent options. Slugger Adam Dunn, who has hit 40 or more home runs for five straight seasons, is also a free-agent option, though his price would probably have to come down significantly for the Orioles to get involved in the bidding.

"We did not allow this to sidetrack our other endeavors," MacPhail said. "We're focusing on our pitching and catching primarily at this point."

Pitching = Mark Hendrickson

Catching = totally unimportant, find someone that can handle the position defensively and hopefully hit his weight until you bring Wieters up

It disgusts me that we're talking about Kevin Millar (.234/.323/.394), Hank Blalock (.287/.338/.508 in 65 games), Eric Hinske (.247/.333/.465), Doug f***ing Mientkiewicz (.277/.374/.379 in 225 AB) and Sean motherf***ing Casey (.322/.381/.392 in 199 AB) as everyday first base options for 2009, while we say that Adam Dunn (.236/.386/.513, and healthy as a horse every single year) is "too expensive" in a butt ugly free agent market where he's really not that pricey at all.

It's astounding the lack of progress we're making on the free agent front. The eggs are almost entirely in the farm system basket -- we're counting on ALL of these guys to pan out, basically, if this is the sort of free agent player the O's are going to be under MacPhail. The offer to Teixeira was a joke -- let's call a spade a spade there. They put in an offer and never budged on it for the sake of a public that was in love with the idea of Maryland-born Mark Teixeira coming to crack the code and save us. We were never in the running. The Royals could've made the same offer if they'd felt like it.

I know you have to patch holes, but you'll have to forgive me if I don't have a firm belief in ANY front office at the Warehouse. I'm trusting Andy MacPhail, but it's a cautious trust. The problem I'm seeing is this division is not going to get worse any time soon. The Yankees are going to make a load of money every year and spend it on the team. The Red Sox develop and spend at the same time, and do both quite effectively. The Rays have a lot of years left on that team, probably, and a front four of Scott Kazmir, Matt Garza, James Shields and David Price could be terrifying for many, many seasons.

2009 is another fifth place finish. We all know that. And I've said before that saying rebuilding is OK is one thing -- watching rebuilding happen, the struggle of it all and the seemingly futile daily grind, is another thing entirely. It wasn't pretty to watch after a while last year. It won't be pretty this year, either.

What past that? These young players (Jones, Wieters, Tillman, Matusz, Arrieta especially) have to work out. If they don't, then a whole lot of other guys who are worse bets at becoming impact players have to work out. That's hard, man. And if the team doesn't win or doesn't expand its budget, free agents still aren't going to come here.

I've had this feeling burrowing in my gut for this entire offseason. I don't really like the direction we're headed, and it's not even so much the direction or MacPhail's vision. Developing young talent is not THE ONLY THING that has to drastically change under Dandy Andy's watch. The buck doesn't stop there. If the franchise thinks it does, another decade of this mess is on the horizon.

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Yeah, I know.

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