I've lost faith in Erik Bedard

by SC on May 29, 2006 11:51 AM EDT in News Comment 47 comments

How about you?

This is not to slag Bedard, really. Well, OK, yes it is, because this was a guy we could have easily found a trade partner for in the offseason. There were Adam Dunn rumors, Austin Kearns rumors, Billy Beane was high on him. But I was a little glad they didn't move him (I'd have moved him for Dunn, but that's me), because I like(d) Bedard and really thought that if he could just stay healthy, he'd make himself into a fine starter.

He's got the fastball, he's got the smooth delivery, he's got the complimentary offspeed stuff. For a while last year he had a really great changeup he learned at Ray Miller Tech, then he got hurt and just kind of didn't throw it much anymore upon his return.

This isn't just me saying this, a bunch of you have, too, and Mazzone seems to heavily hint at it: Bedard seems like he doesn't care a lot of the time. And frankly, it's a fitting explanation, because there's nothing wrong with his arsenal of pitches when he's throwing well. But he seems to go from pitching well to being terrible in a snap. This isn't like Rodrigo Lopez, who just doesn't have the stuff and is completely reliant on pinpoint control and mixing it up. Greg Maddux is one thing, you don't get many guys like Greg Maddux in the world. And Lopez on his best days is a poor man's Maddux, which is a compliment. But I can understand easily what's wrong with Lopez this season. With Bedard, it's more of a problem.

Bedard has the stuff to be a good major league pitcher. And yet he has completely regressed. And at this point, he's 27 years old and not getting any younger. 27 isn't old, no, but logically he should be coming into his own around this age.

I think I'm just tired of the waiting. If Erik Bedard is mediocre at best the rest of this season and he shows up next year and he's lights-out all year, I won't be surprised. But I can't keep going into Bedard's starts thinking he's going to pitch well, because it's just damned frustrating when he doesn't. The less I invest in Bedard at this point, the better, I think.

On the other side of this is Daniel Cabrera, who is a guy with whom I should probably let expectations wane, but I can't help it. He throws 100. He's still very inexperienced. And I don't think anyone will ever accuse Cabrera of being indifferent to his performance.

It's not even June and this team's lack of chemistry is already coming out in the media. Kevin Millar seems more disappointed and frustrated than anything. This is a guy that (as far as I know) played a big role with making the Red Sox a team instead of a collection of players, and from day one of his signing, Millar seemed more concerned with helping us become a team than anything else. It's May and he seems like he's almost given up on the very idea of it.

I think some housecleaning might be in order, but I wouldn't even know where to start. Well, I've got some ideas, but maybe those aren't the right guys. Where would you start?

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I told you all Bedards to old to be a prospect

and isnt gonna be worth more than some of the guys we were offered for him, but whatever im just way too smart. Man I wish we had Adam Dunn. Id get rid of Chen, Lopez (Chen might be hard to trade, hell same with Lopez) for some releif pitching. Then I'd trade Erik Bedard for some sort of prospect or Adam Dunn (yeah neither will happen but they could have this off season) then Id get rid of Benson (his contract is too high) for another prospect (trade him to the Mets maybe?) then I'd trade Gibby for a prospect then Id trade Patterson for a prospect while he's hot then I'd trade Javy for prospects then I'd trade Ramon Hernadez for prospects (while he's hot) then I'd just release Conine. We'd keep Melvin and Tejada although I'd trade Tejeda for kick ass prospects but that might be too much. So pretty much I'd get rid of everything on the team. Oh yeah we should get rid of every reliever over 27 and replace them with young guys.

"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow" Earl Weaver

by Larry Bigbie3 on May 29, 2006 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

bedarded...

A couple quotes from the sun article linked to by drj in the diaries stuck out at me:

"He just helps you concentrate more, focus more on down and away and be more consistent with all your pitches," He said of the coach. "It takes a while in any profession you're at. If somebody asks you to do something different, you're not going to do it overnight. People that don't know the game deeply, they think somebody is going to come over here and change the whole thing. In reality, it doesn't work that way."

I thought the knock on Bedard was that he was stubborn. Is he really buying into Mazzone? I haven't seen him pitch this year but his walks are only a little up from last year. He is more than 2 k/9 down from last year. He's just plain not missing bats this year. I wonder if he is pitching hurt or something cause the stuff just isn't there and he isn't making pitches.

Then this gem from Cabrera:

"I walk people all the time," he said after walking seven in four innings in his last start against Kansas City. "I'm tired of hearing all the time 'walks, walks.' I walk people all the time. That's nothing different with me."

Seven in four innings! 8.5 per 9 innings pitched! Let me set up an analogy. If we went to the bar and I had three shots and got a little silly, it would probably be ok. If we went out and I drank 8.5 shots and I puked on your shoes, you would probably tell me to cut down the drinking. So Cabrera: Quit puking on my shoes already.

"I think some housecleaning might be in order, but I wouldn't even know where to start. Well, I've got some ideas, but maybe those aren't the right guys. Where would you start?"

You know what? I would put Tejada out there. I love the guy but it isn't working out. He didn't want to be here cause we weren't gonna win and were not. So throw him out there early and ask for the moon. Start with the Angels and ask for Kendrick and Wood.

"Hi, I'm Earl Weaver"- Earl Weaver

by erudite on May 29, 2006 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cabrera

Not to defend Cabrera's walking, but hopefully his attitude isn't as bad as it seems from the quote. He just doesn't speak the English very well.

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by BrianS on May 30, 2006 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I said this over the offseason...

but I just think the whole thing should be blown up. Nobody should be off-limits for a trade.

I think the Millar quotes ("pimpy" wardrobes aside) show what I have suspected for a long time--during the last eight years the Orioles have basically fostered a culture of losing. These teams have done more than just lose games, they have set the bar dramatically lower for what is considered acceptable effort.

So many of these guys have been losers for so long, it just seems like what is normal to them. That's why Tejada has been going batshit insane here. That's why he was on the phone to his agent yelling "I am not a loser!" after only a few months in Baltimore. It's because this organization has fostered a culture of losing, and after a player is here for a few months, you start feeling like a loser too (that's what Millar is going through right now, and he obviously doesn't like it).

So basically, I think the whole thing needs to be blown up and started over again. We should have a big old firesale, stock up on prospects, and start over from square one.

by rebop on May 29, 2006 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Bedard

Have I given up on Bedard? Yes and no. I've given up on him turning into an ace. But I think Bedard is having a rough month and he'll rebound. So I haven't given up on Bedard in the sense that I think the O's are looking at solid number 3 starter. Nothing more. He's another Paul Byrd, Kirk Reuter type. Usually a good guy to fill out your rotation but not a guy you want to anchor it.

"I think some housecleaning might be in order, but I wouldn't even know where to start. Well, I've got some ideas, but maybe those aren't the right guys. Where would you start?"

I think you resign B-Rob and then trade anybody with less than 3 years of service time. Anyone with 3 or more years of service time will hit free agency before the team theoretically turns around.

by birdman on May 29, 2006 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

one thing I'd do for sure

is trade Javy Lopez as quickly as possible if anyone has interest in him, and considering he's a free agent after this season, I'm sure someone probably does. It's not that I have a single thing against him really, but what good is he to the rest of this season?

"Occasionally he'll get naked out on the field when nobody's looking, but that actually grosses me out." - Jay Gibbons on Kevin Millar

by SC on May 29, 2006 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

His hitting

is getting better. If this continues, his trade goes up and his contract becomes cheaper. I like the idea of trading Javy but I would rather wait a bit.

by birdman on May 29, 2006 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also,

maybe he is the X-factor in getting Roddy to pitch well again. Even if he's doing nothing different, if Roddy believes it and pitches even moderately well, that's good enough for me.

by zknower on May 29, 2006 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

what the

fuck? The X-factor to get Roddy pitching better? At his best he's a guy with an ERA around 4 and we dont need that, we just need to trade him for prospects or something usefull while we can, of course the club wont trade him thinking that he'll revert back to his 2003-2004 form. Thinking about the team sucking isnt really what gets me upset, its thinking about how we should just restart and trade people for prospects and start new because we will never win with this set of guys and how the FO will never do something like that that pisses me off FUCK YOU FRONT OFFICE WOOO!

"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow" Earl Weaver

by Larry Bigbie3 on May 29, 2006 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

rant over

"We're so bad right now that for us back-to-back home runs means one today and another one tomorrow" Earl Weaver

by Larry Bigbie3 on May 29, 2006 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Javy is fine for now...

...I would definitely wait a bit to see whose catcher goes kaput or what AL team needs an extra bat to DH before the trade deadline. Outside of that his contract's over this year and truth be told he's been a bit of a bust out. Sure, sure he was hurt last year, but I thought this guy would have at least one monster year with us and it appears he is not going to. Unless we go on some hardcore winning streak that puts us back in it there is no reason to still have Javy on board at the end of the season, if we can get something for him.

Definitely either Chen or Rodrigo Lopez need to go sometime this season...the problem is who? Both of them being so damn bad makes it really difficult to decide which one. If Penn can return to his stellar AAA form after he returns from the DL in a couple of rehab starts then he should absolutely replace either Chen or Lopez. A bigger worry is Loewen and this crazy ass contract clause he has that says we HAVE to bring him up by next season and then he CANNOT go back down to the minors without being exposed to waivers (aka bye bye Loewen). They need to figure this thing out soon, because this guy needs development, and time is running out.

"You'll get better. I promise." - Cal Ripken Jr.

by Jonnypops on May 29, 2006 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

re:

Sure, sure he was hurt last year, but I thought this guy would have at least one monster year with us and it appears he is not going to.

No offense but I think you might've been the only one that really EXPECTED any huge years. His final year in Atlanta was crazy and followed a terrible season. And he was really good in 2004, about as good as I think should have been hoped for.

"Occasionally he'll get naked out on the field when nobody's looking, but that actually grosses me out." - Jay Gibbons on Kevin Millar

by SC on May 30, 2006 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ehhhhhh, maybe.

His numbers throughout his career are so erratic it's hard to make heads or tails of them. 2004 was quite a good year for him, even in comparison to his years in Atlanta (with the exception of 2003, of course). My issue is that he's the currently the second highest paid player on the team but his injuries and performance have made him much less of an offensive factor than you'd hope for considering his paycheck. Hopefully he'll perk up.

"You'll get better. I promise." - Cal Ripken Jr.

by Jonnypops on May 30, 2006 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re:

The losing culture starts at the top. When is the last time you heard an Oriole official or coach make a statement similar to Mazzone's? The players are responding to the environment that's developed around them. I'll go back to Syd Thrift and say he destroyed the franchise, with approval from Peter Angelos. The approval need not have been overt. Even if Angelos was completely hoodwinked, it was still on his watch, and says a lot about his acumen at running a sports franchise.

Employees typically want to work for a place that treats them equitably, provides reasonable benefits, and produces a good product. I can't speak for the equitable treatment, but the quality product is lagging. The management has to say enough of this bullshit, and change the culture that accepts losing and mediocre teams. If Angelos, Flanagan, and on down to Perlozzo, Mazzone, and the coaching staff don't believe and act, the players will know and the buffoonery will continue.

Sam and Leo and the coaches can work on the daily routines and flush out the losing practices and attitudes. The players should just know what is expected of them, and know it's expected from the top on down. Players like Millar and Tejada, have to help enforce the rules. The organization has to respond by building a decent product. In my mind that's where it gets most problematic. Peter Angelos, Flanagan, and the remaining FO need to produce a quality product, instead of a hodgepodge of mediocrity (at best). That's something that has been done only fleetingly under Angelos, and resulted in bickering and upheaval. I sure hope this newfound "things must change" attitude is also propagating up the management chain all the way to the inept ownership. I can't say I'm optimistic, but I'd love to be surprised.

by drj on May 29, 2006 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It appears...

...as though they're beginning to do something. We'll have to wait and see whether the hatchets start coming out soon and people begin to get traded and DFA...but at least the warning shot has been sounded. The true test will be if they can turn this into something positive. It's easy to get mad at a losing franchise, it's much more difficult to properly steer that anger into a motivating force with a bunch of overpaid, ego driven athletes.

"You'll get better. I promise." - Cal Ripken Jr.

by Jonnypops on May 29, 2006 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i dont understand...

Ok the only problem w/the orioles is our suck ass pitching staff.... if you look at the rest of the roster we are pretty solid... we can score with almost every team out there.. i mean our farm system is doing a great job developing position players.. just the pitchers comming out of the system just plain sux... baltimore needs to spend big money on at least one SOLid pitcher, a kris benson, or a eric betard would be nice #2, and #3 in the rotation... we are doing what we did with ponson... put a mediocre guy into the #1 spot and say that they are our best hope....the orioles have been dicking around for the past 10 years and have not made major moves concerning their pitching staff... THey think this problems gonna fix itself. THis time we need some outside help from a proven veteran starter, and take the pressure off out mediocre ones... FOr example look at ponson now... hes not #1 in the rotation and hes doing pretty well with the cards... We cant will #3 and #4 starters to perform at the #1 level... and a second note... pull chen and lopez to relief duty... have them work on their stuff, and let somebody else in this system pitch... ODDs are they cant do much worse..... all those ppl out there that are into purging the team in search of pitchers are retarded..... thats just a typical florida marlins move, or the O's after 1996.... What we need to do is spend some money PETER ANGELOS!

by bob8899 on May 29, 2006 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

trade javy

trade javy, corey patterson (who's having his onetime hot streak with us right now), conine.

by janfrel on May 30, 2006 12:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Javy

Javy is probably our most sensible trade bait, but I agree with those who say we should wait until an immediate contender hits a point of need so that we can snab a decent prospect rather than taking some castoffs.

Of course I would love to trade either Millar or Conine (having both is redundant), but I don't see either netting us much on the market. I don't agree with trading Corey as the need for outfielders is not as strong around the league, and we basically got him for nothing and don't stand to lose him soon.

I think the housecleaning really has to be some outright cutting. Brower was a start, but that was basically a mandatory move that came weeks too late. Next we should simply outright Lopez or Chen, whoever has his act the least together when Penn recovers. That would serve as a more motivating warning shot to the team than any trade.

by punkrawka on May 30, 2006 7:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I forgot

Matos is a prime candidate for an outright cut as well. You want to talk about guys who don't care or try hard enough, that's him. With Patterson and Markakis both able to play center, we don't need him anymore. And I'm sure that Fiorentino or Majewski could at LEAST replicate Matos' numbers if we needed an emergency replacement.

by punkrawka on May 30, 2006 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree...

at least make an example of someone. Let the others who are dogging it (whoever they may be) know that there are consequences to their actions. Matos would be a good place to start.

If Bedard has any options left (and I don't know if he does or not) send him down to Bowie for a couple weeks. Sure it'll piss him off, but maybe that's what he needs. Somebody needs to let him know (and not just tell him) that in order to suceed at the major league level you have to work your butt off and constantly make adjustments. His stuborn, "I pitch my way" attitude just won't cut it.

by rebop on May 30, 2006 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The real problem

is the front office and unfortunately for us fans there is no moves that can be made to fix that problem. We just have to wait for a new owner.
I'm all for moving some guys around, but I don't think it will make a difference when players will just adapt to the losing atmosphere this organization creates.
It does looks like Bedard is throwing in the towel, but thats probably because the rest of the team has. One thing this team needs is pitching so we mind as well work on some other pitcher issues before making Bedard an issue. One thing Bedard would probably welcome right now is a trade. If everyone around you doesn't care, why would you?

by O face on May 30, 2006 7:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tejada

I have to wonder if Tejada's not giving 100 percent effort. We've all seen him not run out ground balls, and maybe he just never did that, I honestly didn't get to see much of him in Oakland.

But he's a guy who used to being in the thick of a pennant race, and it's become clear to him that no matter how spectacularly he plays, the Orioles will lose. I've got to imagine it's hard for him to keep a positive attitude up. I'm sure he sulked last year, then seemed to come in this year with renewed optimism, only to find the Orioles suck again.

Just speculation on my part. I like Miggy, and I don't mean to slander him at all, because he is, if anything, a symptom and certainly not the cause.

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by BrianS on May 30, 2006 9:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Give-uppers

I'm tired of the "give-uppers." I'm tired of being a give-upper. I don't like reading all the doom and gloom and feeling like the Orioles will suck forever. It's MAY. Sure, May 30... but still May. I'd be more willing to accept that we're in the death throes if we're 10 under .500 in July, but we're 5 under in May. Say it with me: May.

May.

Baseball is a weird game. I really think this team has the makeup that, if they can somehow fall into a 4-5 game winning streak, will really get pumped up and turn it on for the rest of the year or at least parlay it into a big month to get all of us pumped about baseball again. So here's hoping that happens sooner rather than later...

by CStoneNo37 on May 30, 2006 9:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

re:

I really think this team has the makeup that, if they can somehow fall into a 4-5 game winning streak, will really get pumped up and turn it on for the rest of the year or at least parlay it into a big month to get all of us pumped about baseball again.

I don't think this team has the makeup to win four or five games in a row.

"Occasionally he'll get naked out on the field when nobody's looking, but that actually grosses me out." - Jay Gibbons on Kevin Millar

by SC on May 30, 2006 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL...

and I thought I was negative.

by rebop on May 30, 2006 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But come to think of it...

with 3/4 of your rotation consisting of Chen, Lopez and TBD, 4 in a row seems like a lot to expect.

by rebop on May 30, 2006 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even

awful teams get lucky. I'm sure the Devil Rays at various times have won 4 in a four.

by birdman on May 30, 2006 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This team...

...has won three in a row three times this season, and even won 8/11 in April.

We've just gone through a really sucky patch with a lot of injuries and some horrible pitching.

We are absolutely capable of reeling off 4 or 5 in a row, depending on who we're playing. Heck, if we sweep the D-Rays, that's 4 in a row right there (counting our win in Anaheim).

We swept the Royals. The D-Rays aren't a whole lot better.

by zknower on May 30, 2006 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

face it.

"The D-Rays aren't a whole lot better"

Neither are we.

P.A., P.A., Go Away, come back NO OTHER DAY!!!

by dayzd toe on May 30, 2006 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Insanity

Einstein defined insanity as "...doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result."

As far as I'm concerned that applies to the Orioles this season. They didn't really do anything different this year, the players they acquired were not close to enough to make them competitive with the Yankees and Red Sox. Expecting the Orioles to suddenly be a good team after 8 consecutive losing seasons and no substantial changes is like continually poking yourself in the eye with a fork and expecting it not to hurt the 9th time you do it.

Anyway, that doesn't mean that the Orioles will stink forever, but they will continue to stink until some real changes in organizational philosophy are made. I suspect that won't happen until the team is under new ownership. Of course there is no real harm in hoping something will change before then, but i wouldn't bet any money on it.

by rebop on May 30, 2006 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno

After eight fork-pokings, you wouldn't have much eye left, so maybe it wouldn't hurt.

by punkrawka on May 30, 2006 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trust me...

it still hurts...a lot.

by rebop on May 30, 2006 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

This is why I didn't have expectations coming into 2006. On the other hand, I was interested, if not mildly excited about seeing some of the farm hands come up. Markakis, Penn, Loewen, etc. This latest bit of news, albeit not terribly surprising, has been deflating. The finger pointing can't only be at players. It has to extend up the management chain. All the way up the management chain. The best I can hope is this is the beginning of an attitude change.

The O's sure do keep things interesting in the wrong way. I'm reminded of a Homer quote: "I wonder why stories of degradation and humiliation make you more popular."

by drj on May 30, 2006 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Leo and Sam too...

Mazzone deserves some criticism in this as well. As far as I'm concerned it is not enough for him to just say his pitchers don't have enough passion. Part of his job is to inspire these guys and light a fire under their butts if they get complacent. I'd like to see him take some real action to remedy the situation, not just complain about it.

Same with Perlozzo. This is obviously a group of players that needs their asses kicked occasionally to stay motivated. And I'm not sure he's doing enough to do that.

Obviously I think the real problems are higher up the food chain, but its Perlozzo and Mazzone's job to get the best result with what they've been given.

by rebop on May 30, 2006 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mazzone

I'm still willing to wait before passing a final judgement on Mazzone but I didn't think the pitching staff would regress to such heights under him.

by birdman on May 30, 2006 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Absolutely...

I haven't passed judgement on Mazzone at all. I still fully expect him to succeed in Baltimore at some point. He is the best in his field, and I don't think for a second that he somehow forgotten how to be a pitching coach this offseason.

Maybe this is not the right group of pitchers for Leo to work with. But in the end, if he can't get good results with these guys (or at least as good as Ray Miller did), he has to accept some of the blame too. It's not enough to say these guys have attitude problems and then absolve yourself of responsibility. (Not that that is what he's doing here).

by rebop on May 30, 2006 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Miller and Mazzone approach

Don't they advocate pretty similar styles (pound the strike zone, but with emphasis from Mazzone on down and away)?

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by BrianS on May 30, 2006 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Everyone

Isn't that everyone's philosophy. I mean, you don't hear anyone saying, throw balls, and nibble off the plate. ;-P

P.A., P.A., Go Away, come back NO OTHER DAY!!!

by dayzd toe on May 30, 2006 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Miller's mantra...

was along the lines of "work fast, throw strikes down and away." I don't think there is a huge difference in philosophy between Miller and Mazzone (and as dazedtoe points out below, there isn't a lot of difference in philosophy between most pitching coaches). I think the real differences are in a coach's ability to get pitchers to buy into a system, build their confidence, and to recognize and fix mechanical flaws when they arise. History suggests Mazzone is extremely good at all those things, so it is difficult to figure out what is going wrong so far this year.

by rebop on May 30, 2006 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you said it.

"so far"

He hasn't had a whole lot of time, yet.

P.A., P.A., Go Away, come back NO OTHER DAY!!!

by dayzd toe on May 31, 2006 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Couldn't be more right

I think your posting is probably what a vast majority of the O's fan base thinks as well.

by O face on May 31, 2006 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Negativity

I'm pretty negative about the O's, but believe me, I don't want to be. It's just the reality, though. After 9 straight losing seasons there's no reason to think they'll surprise us with a blistering 2nd half.

Orioles' Rebuilding Plan: Phase 1: Steal Underwear. Phase 3: Win the World Series.

by BrianS on May 30, 2006 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, c'mon! You exaggerate...

It's only eight straight losing seasons, not nine.

Gosh, people are so negative. ;p

by zknower on May 30, 2006 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Save it for July and August

It's early. And this season doesn't matter anyway. Let's see what we've got in a few months. We've played 53 out of 162. It's early.

"I'm a big dumb asshole with herpes and I eat babies" - Peter Angelos

by BleedingOrange on May 31, 2006 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

re:

And this season doesn't matter anyway.

Personally I'm too competitive by nature and emotional about baseball for this argument.

"Occasionally he'll get naked out on the field when nobody's looking, but that actually grosses me out." - Jay Gibbons on Kevin Millar

by SC on Jun 1, 2006 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Season

I love the O's and I'll watch every game I can, win or lose, but I think most of us know that it won't be the O's we're watching come October. So everybody take a deep breath, let the young guys go out there and take their lumps, and we'll see what we've got at the end of the year. Bedard had a shitty month, yes. But that's only a few starts in the long run. I'd much rather bitch about the old guys who have had success in the past that are blowing right now.

"I'm a big dumb asshole with herpes and I eat babies" - Peter Angelos

by BleedingOrange on Jun 1, 2006 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Erik Bedard

Erik currently seems totally lacking in the self confidence department. He needs to stop beating himself up, relax and just get out there and pitch his game. I'm sticking with him...

by Bluehen on Jun 8, 2006 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs