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Gameday Thread: Royals at O's, 04/12

Game Time: 7:05 | TV: MASN, RTN (KC) | Radio: WHFS
Gil Meche, RH Steve Trachsel, RH (1-1, 4.40) (0-0, 4.05) CF D DeJesus 2B B Roberts 2B M Grudzielanek 3B M Mora RF M Teahen RF N Markakis DH M Sweeney SS M Tejada 1B R Gload 1B A Huff 3B A Gordon LF J Gibbons LF E German DH K Millar C J Buck CF C Patterson SS T Pena, Jr. C P Bako

Whenever I need to know anything about the Royals, I go to SBN's Royals Review, which is just a brilliant blog. Like me, the esteemed author of RR.com enjoys the finer things in life, like writing feature articles about Paul Bako.

The O's are batting a hefty .213 this season, second-worst in the majors. Here's some knowledge-dropping: That's got to improve. Brian Roberts has been stomach-turning in the leadoff spot outside of drawing some walks, hitting .139 through the first nine games. He torches Meche for his career (.522, 4 2B, HR, 4 RBI). Tejada has been no prize himself, since it's tough to win when your team's best player is hitting .250 with one extra-base hit. In fact, this team is pretty awful at the plate. The amazing thing is the pitching has mostly been fine and we still suck. How do you like them apples?

Last year, the O's played the Royals in May at Camden Yards and swept the chumps, but that was a Royals team that started Runelvys Hernandez (Red Sox), Mark Redman (Braves) and Denny Bautista (Rockies), so clearly this is a much different outfit. In fact, only Redman is even in the major leagues right now.

I mean, it's easy to make fun of the Royals for overpaying for Gil Meche, but someone had to, and my God, when you've had the disastrous pitching they've had, Gil Meche looks like freaking Roger Clemens. Not that we have any room to talk, necessarily. At least these dudes got over .500 once in the last mother humping decade.

Sometimes I lie awake at night and I think of games like these. Steve Trachsel pitting his wiles against Gil Meche, who may someday be exactly like Steve Trachsel, trying desperately to hang on at age 36. Or Friday's Bedard/Duckworth duel, or Sunday's Greinke/somebody affair. I think about watching 23-year old Alex Gordon flail away with a 2-for-26 start to his big league career, one home run, no walks, and 10 strikeouts. I think, "Wow, this guy was supposed to be so awesome." And then I remember Hank Blalock in 2002 and how awful he was, just up too soon and totally overmatched. And then I think, "Well, gosh, Blalock turned it around." But then I remember that Blalock had two pretty good seasons and now kinda stinks, and that he was definitely not The Next George Brett.

It brings me back to Alex Gordon, because like George Brett, he's a Royal. Is Gordon simply The Next Hank Blalock? Maybe. I feel for the super prospects and the fans who need them to be everything they're supposed to be. What an incredible burden, to have all two or three thousand remaining diehard Royals fans praying that you save their team. I find it hard to identify, as the Orioles haven't had a super prospect in a very, very long time.

I love when we play the Royals. It feels so good to match up with a team that I feel like I understand.

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From today's sun
"Lopez would go on to be the Orioles winningest pitcher (60-58) during his five years here."

Are we really THAT bad?  By winningest I hope he means just total wins and not winning pct.  But even that... 12 wins per season... are we really THAT bad?

by dayzd toe on Apr 12, 2007 9:36 AM EDT   0 recs

Stupid stat
How many starters were even pitching for the Orioles for 3 of those 5 seasons, let alone 5?

Sidney may have been here for 3 and a half. oooohhhhhh.

www.beltwaysportsbeat.com

by CStoneNo37 on Apr 12, 2007 10:03 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

High turnover
still points to shitty baseball.

by dayzd toe on Apr 12, 2007 10:05 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is it just me or...
Did anyone else notice that our man Sammy brought in Birkins, primarily a lefty specialist to face 6 consecutive right handed hitters in the 12th?

I know the bullpen was toast, but geez, couldn't he have used Guthrie and just brought up Olsen to start the game if Wright couldn't go and Penn's forearm was troubling him?

Can't we focus on winning the one we're playing?

by Baseball Savant on Apr 12, 2007 10:23 AM EDT   0 recs

Subject is too long (max is 50 characters).
"Can't we focus on winning the one we're playing?"

No.  That's why we have to run Gibbons and Huff and Gomez whoever else out there to 1B until Tex comes available.  Don't you know that this team is always a few steps ahead of the rest of the league.  We playing to win the 2011 World Series this year.  Way to go FO!!!

by dayzd toe on Apr 12, 2007 10:32 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OK that makes sense
I'll keep thinking about the moves in relation to 2011! Phew, glad I got that one out of the way. Now I won't be so confused.

by Baseball Savant on Apr 12, 2007 10:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oriole Magic
SC, you should probably go ahead and update the link to Oriole Magic..  the url is now http://mvn.com/mlb-orioles/

by dayzd toe on Apr 12, 2007 10:42 AM EDT   0 recs

Also...
let's not forget about the coveted BOSS BUTTON

by dayzd toe on Apr 12, 2007 11:15 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

re:
I only have so much control over what I can put on here. I don't own the site. I'm really just the field manager.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by SC on Apr 12, 2007 1:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well
at least you're better than Sammy P.

by dayzd toe on Apr 12, 2007 2:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Can you bring the AVP chicks back?
At least the women's pro beach v-ball ads distracted me from orioles-related suffering.
"Jaret Wright will be the missing piece in the Orioles quest to return to respectability." --- Jaret Wright's Mom

by BrianS on Apr 12, 2007 6:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I second this notion, too!
"Mess with me, you're messing with the whole trailer park." - Jamie Walker

by duck on Apr 12, 2007 7:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

2007 O's!
2007 O's through 9 games and ranking against all 30 MLB teams. Paul Bako fits right in.

BA    OBP   SLG   OPS
.213  .294  .352  .646
29th  25th  17th  25th

Sometimes I lie awake at night and I think of games like these

Damn. I feel for you. All the losing is one jumbled vague memory for me, and I certainly don't lose sleep over them. The only loss that still occasionally pops to mind and bothers me is &@#*^@ Don Stanhouse and game 2 of the '79 series.

by drj on Apr 12, 2007 10:51 AM EDT   0 recs

as a team
we're at the de-bako line.

by dayzd toe on Apr 12, 2007 10:57 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

for me?
it's still tony tarrasco and that punk kid in '96.  

by jq higgins on Apr 12, 2007 10:57 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

For me....
Marquis Grissom and Armando Benitez.
Took off runnin' but I take my time...

by elktonfan on Apr 12, 2007 5:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

For me...
Jack Cust tripping twice on the way to the plate.
"Jaret Wright will be the missing piece in the Orioles quest to return to respectability." --- Jaret Wright's Mom

by BrianS on Apr 12, 2007 6:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Games
Does anyone remember these two games from the first half of 2005?
The final game of a four game series with Boston at Fenway sometime in May. The Orioles were leading in the ninth, ready to take 3 of 4 from Boston and Ortiz hits a walk-off off of Bj Ryan

Also on the 4th of July at Yankee Stadium Bruce Chen had a horrible start and the Orioles were down big from the beginning. We battled back to take the lead, only to have Steve Kline blow the lead for us.

Maybe the fall didnt happen until weeks after these games, but they are two I feel could have provided big emotional boosts and maybe have prevented the dreadful end to that season.

by nittany lion on Apr 12, 2007 9:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Royals and Rays
The Royals and Devil Rays. Pitching 4.44 ERA and 6.91 ERA's respectively. Just what the doctor ordered for a slumping Oriole line up!

by Mike Boehm on Apr 12, 2007 10:58 AM EDT   0 recs

Sammy PerLOSEo and The Ghost of Rich Garcia
I'm confident the O's v Rays series will capture the collective imagination of baseball-loving Americans all across this great nation of ours! The subplots are too good to pass up (e.g wiley veteran Aubrey Huff faces down his old team).  And having already blown his wad all over Dice K, I'm thinking Peter Gammons is gonna love this sh*t.

by jeremy52 on Apr 12, 2007 11:32 AM EDT   0 recs

btw...
that paul bako article is GOLD!

by jq higgins on Apr 12, 2007 11:59 AM EDT   0 recs

I can't wait...
...until we fire Perlozzo and then Mazzone quits and all are pitchers have to get used to ANOTHER pitching coach. I hope this one preaches establishing your curveball up and in or some craziness, just to screw with the pitchers and make me cry.

by pipkin on Apr 12, 2007 12:11 PM EDT   0 recs

ugh
our, not are

i can't believe i made that mistake

by pipkin on Apr 12, 2007 12:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

maybe sammy just needs to delegate...
just let leo handle all decision relate dto pitching and samm can teach dudes how to bunt and stuff.

by jq higgins on Apr 12, 2007 12:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

O's Offense
How sorry is it to see the Orioles put together 4 decent to good starting pitching efforts in a row and end up with just one win.  It's going to be a long season if this keeps up.

by timg56 on Apr 12, 2007 12:15 PM EDT   0 recs

i cant
wait for the game today!
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 12:33 PM EDT   0 recs

O's
era only 4.35, it is the offense that is not coming through. if we had scored ONE run we would have WON the game!
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 12:39 PM EDT   0 recs

And if my aunt had balls....
she'd be a baller.

Ballin'!

"Mess with me, you're messing with the whole trailer park." - Jamie Walker

by duck on Apr 12, 2007 1:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what?
that is an awful song... i hate it
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 1:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually...
I hate it to. But that's all my HS kids talk about...
"Mess with me, you're messing with the whole trailer park." - Jamie Walker

by duck on Apr 12, 2007 1:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

all
the people on my baseball team sing it and it is awful!
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 1:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

accuscore at ESPN
gives the O's a 60% chance of winning!
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 1:33 PM EDT   0 recs

60%?
60%

That's an insult!!!!

....to the Royals.

haha

Seriously though. 60% against the Royals? We've go this tonight. Another gem from Trachsel! (I believe in the impossible because reality is boring)

by Mike Boehm on Apr 12, 2007 1:52 PM EDT   0 recs

You're right.
Reality is boring.
Everyone fits in a skillet.

by 2632 on Apr 12, 2007 3:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

unless
it has great legs and doesn't like to dress completely.

by dayzd toe on Apr 12, 2007 3:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

5
more hours
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 1:53 PM EDT   0 recs

looks
like the weather is good for today.
boston and m's looking at a rain out.
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 2:22 PM EDT   0 recs

oh, yeah.
It's goddamn disgusting here. Slush is falling from the sky.
Everyone fits in a skillet.

by 2632 on Apr 12, 2007 3:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

did
you watch King Felix last night?
17 straight scoreless this season
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 3:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

slightly impressive...
matsuzaka is good and all, but, man...felix hernandez looks REALLY good.

...though greinke gonna be rough on sunday.

12K/0BB in 12 or 14 innings!

by jq higgins on Apr 12, 2007 3:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

how about this
Trachsel has made just two career starts at Camden Yards, and he is 0-1 with a 2.77 ERA.
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 3:38 PM EDT   0 recs

3
more hours
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 3:41 PM EDT   0 recs

Hey westcoast
You know what I have in the bottom corner of my comptuer screen? A clock.

by Stacey on Apr 12, 2007 5:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Somebody
needs a hobby
Took off runnin' but I take my time...

by elktonfan on Apr 12, 2007 5:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

school off
today. and it was 3 hours and 20 minutes happy.
i do have a hobby: baseball, gutair, and other stuff. but all of my freinds are doing stuff
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 5:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what the shit
no mlb.tv?
is it just me?
Everyone fits in a skillet.

by 2632 on Apr 12, 2007 7:11 PM EDT   0 recs

Is it worth it with DSL?
Since I live in MD, I assume I couldn't get any O's games anyway.
"Mess with me, you're messing with the whole trailer park." - Jamie Walker

by duck on Apr 12, 2007 7:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I've got it
I figured it would be blacked out, but it's not. I use a friend's account from VA. I'm watching my kid cousin and he seems to think watching cartoons is better than baseball.

by Stacey on Apr 12, 2007 7:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I go it to work
MLB site wouldn't give me the TV icon. Got to it through the O's site.
Everyone fits in a skillet.

by 2632 on Apr 12, 2007 7:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I've got a good feeling about this game...
Quicksand on the iPod (SC, do a YouTube serach for them on Kilborne) and Trax getting the first out.

Go O's

I really helps being borderline bi-polar with this team. And having ADD for the short-term memory loss.

"Mess with me, you're messing with the whole trailer park." - Jamie Walker

by duck on Apr 12, 2007 7:11 PM EDT   0 recs

Quicksand
Beautiful.  Which disc?
"My wife left me, my daughter has a driver's license, and keeping the cosmos from chaos lacks so much of the razzle dazzle."

by Dr Orpheus on Apr 12, 2007 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually, both
Slip and Manic Compression. I'm partial to slip, although their instrumetal Baphomet is probabkly my favorite. That and Dine Alone.
"Mess with me, you're messing with the whole trailer park." - Jamie Walker

by duck on Apr 12, 2007 7:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm a fan of...
...the song "Shovel".  I think it's from an EP...somewhere.  Slip was a great record.
"My wife left me, my daughter has a driver's license, and keeping the cosmos from chaos lacks so much of the razzle dazzle."

by Dr Orpheus on Apr 12, 2007 7:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't have the EP
:(

Is it available commercially?

Otherwise, if you know of a way for me to procure a copy, use my e-mail in my profile.

"Mess with me, you're messing with the whole trailer park." - Jamie Walker

by duck on Apr 12, 2007 7:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I forgot the greatness that iss...
Thorn in My Side. That's the one they did on Kilborne. What a great tune.
"Mess with me, you're messing with the whole trailer park." - Jamie Walker

by duck on Apr 12, 2007 7:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

is it just me, or
do Gary Thorne and Jim Palmer have an irrational man-love for trax?

Not to mention Palmer trotting out the old fallacy that he "just wins" or whatever nonsense. He actually somehow dismisses the fact that Trachsel got like the second best run support in the NL last year. He also fails to mention his bloated ERA.

Also, I hate the term "gamer."

by pipkin on Apr 12, 2007 7:15 PM EDT   0 recs

yaaay
My first experience with MASN. I love having Extra Innings, plus I feel like I won a battle.

I do like Gary Thorne.

"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by SC on Apr 12, 2007 7:21 PM EDT   0 recs

I freaking hate Aubrey Huff
I really really really do. Brother has straight up gotten off on the wrong foot.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by SC on Apr 12, 2007 7:22 PM EDT   0 recs

I want to like him, I do.
But he's giving me nothing to work with. The other day when I saw him in person he struck out by waving at the ball the way you'd half heartedly slap at a fly with a newspaper. It was so annoying.

by Stacey on Apr 12, 2007 7:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

this isn't a nice thing to say about my team
But I think maybe he's realized, "Oh Jesus, I signed with the Baltimore Orioles."
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by SC on Apr 12, 2007 7:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know what he expected
He was just so happy to not be a devil ray anymore he didn't realize that he wasn't that much better off.

by Stacey on Apr 12, 2007 7:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't hate him YET
But I reserve the right to do so at any point.
Everyone fits in a skillet.

by 2632 on Apr 12, 2007 7:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

baha
Stick it, Gordon. Trachsel just totally veteranized the lil' dude. Gordon probably doesn't belong in the majors, plus he's probably pressing.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by SC on Apr 12, 2007 7:28 PM EDT   0 recs

by the way
How about that Ross Gload?
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by SC on Apr 12, 2007 7:28 PM EDT   0 recs

i DO hate Ross Gload, however.
Everyone fits in a skillet.

by 2632 on Apr 12, 2007 7:29 PM EDT   0 recs

NOT ME. NOT ME.
I LOVE him.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by SC on Apr 12, 2007 7:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OK
Palmer really is in love with Trachsel. Absolutely in love.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by SC on Apr 12, 2007 7:30 PM EDT   0 recs

ooh!
It's irrelevant how many runs you give up. Jim Palmer is the Joe Morgan of pitching. He has no idea why he was great.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by SC on Apr 12, 2007 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

On nights like this
They should sell the tickets as General Admission. One price, sit anywhere you like. They'd probably sell a few more seats and then I wouldn't have to look at a sea of empty green seats behind the pitchers. It's freaking depressing.

by Stacey on Apr 12, 2007 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

why
the hell was he picking gload off?
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 7:32 PM EDT   0 recs

oh, man
Rough joke, Gary Thorne.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by SC on Apr 12, 2007 7:34 PM EDT   0 recs

Gibbons is horrible
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by SC on Apr 12, 2007 7:34 PM EDT   0 recs

he is goddamn useless.
Everyone fits in a skillet.

by 2632 on Apr 12, 2007 7:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hallelujuh
lets trade him
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 7:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

re:
Unfortunately we gave him that idiotic extension.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by SC on Apr 12, 2007 7:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

gibbons and birkins
for james loney!
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 7:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well, OK
Alberto Castillo for a real player is about as realistic.
"I don't want any credit. I'm not looking for credit. You know what? I don't want any blame if we're horse shit, either." -- Jim Leyland

by SC on Apr 12, 2007 7:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

dude
that pic of Ro-Lo is freaking me out!
O's in '07, Riding the D-CAB to the WS!

by westcoastOfan on Apr 12, 2007 7:39 PM EDT to parent up