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Operation: Third Place

Dave Trembley, you son of a son of a gun, you. Your Orioles have me believing -- kind of.

The Trembley-led O's are a whole different team, and they played most of that stretch without their shortstop, who also happens to be the highest-paid player on the team. Trembley's Orioles now sit at a mere six games under .500. Not much of an accomplishment if you're a fan of the Yankees or some other stupid team that wins games routinely, but to me, that's sounding good.

So now I'm getting a little anxious. I want third place.

Did you ever see Mr. 3000? It was an OK baseball movie, Bernie Mac was funny enough. Anyway, if you haven't, here come spoilers. I'm sure you're devastated. That movie winds up being less about the Bernie Mac character than it does a team with a losing culture coming together late in the season to try to get to third place. It's respectable-sounding, you know? "Third place." When you've lost for a decade, it's a real goal, and one that requires work.

We're four games behind Toronto with 52 games left to play. It's something that can happen. And I'd be thrilled with a solid third-place finish out of this team.

Bedard, Guthrie, Roberts, Walker, Bradford, and Millar are the guys that have saved this season for me. Under Perlozzo's watchful eye, the team was cruising into the center of the earth, just another horrible, forgettable (oh, if only) Orioles team on their way to 90 losses. With Trembley in charge, they've been a real baseball team.

I'm in, man. Do it, Dave. Take this team to that elusive promised land. .500 can happen, third place can happen. LET'S GO O'S!

(By the way, I may be out of action for a few more days. My cable/internet is working for now, but with Comcast I have no idea if that'll stay the same way. Honestly, it shouldn't be working right now, but it is. It could be two or three days where I'm totally gone.)

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Not to rain on your happiness
But the O's have a very tough schedule the next couple of weeks, only benefit is the O's are 22-16 against east teams and we play 9 games vs east teams and 3 vs team worst then us.

SEA - 3 .550 vs 2-4
BOS - 4 .613 vs 2-6
NYY - 3 .550 vs 6-3 good news
TOR - 3 .509 vs 4-5
TEX - 3 .432 vs 1-2, no more Tex so they suck
MIN - 4 .518 vs 0-3
TAM - 3 .382 vs 8-1 great news
                22 - 24
I think the run is over, sorry! As always I hope I'm wrong. But we'll see soon enough

by merdon1332000 on Aug 6, 2007 6:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

F all those bums!
We've got DAVE TREMBLEY

by SC on Aug 6, 2007 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my call...
3-2-2/12-11

by jq higgins on Aug 6, 2007 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't want third, I need third
I was actually stupid enough before the season started to bet a friend who's a Jays fan that the O's would finish tied or better.  At least I did get odds.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Aug 6, 2007 8:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

mr. 3000
are miggy/melmo the post-epiphany bernie macs?

by jq higgins on Aug 6, 2007 8:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Operation number 2: Sink the Yankees
The Orioles appear to be one of the few teams who can beat the Yankees this year. We have nine games left against them, and they are 1/2 a game out for the wild card.

I consider it our personal duty to deliver that wild card to Cleveland/Detroit.

by zknower on Aug 6, 2007 9:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LET'S GO O'S
BEAT THE YANKEES
I AM GENUINELY ROOTING FOR YOUR PLAYERS TO PERFORM WELL IN THOSE GAMES AND BE VICTORIOUS

by Awesome Mike Awesome on Aug 6, 2007 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just an FYI
The real Mike Awesome is dead:

"Awesome was found dead at around 10:30 p.m. on February 17, 2007 in the Tampa area. A group of friends who were coming to his home to pick him up and go out found him hanged in his home."

by RobG on Aug 6, 2007 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Naw, he just wants
the O's to do Boston's dirty work they can't do themselves - beat the Yankees.
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 6, 2007 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

re:
Honestly, anything that keeps the Yankees out of the playoffs -- even at the expense of Boston definitely going -- is good by me. I mean, the Yankees don't even win anything anymore. They're an ALDS pushover and a waste of my time.

by SC on Aug 6, 2007 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perfect world?
NEITHER makes it to the playoffs. That ain't happening. And my hatred for BOS is deeper than my hatred for NYY, hard as that may be to believe.
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 6, 2007 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since moving to Boston
I've really hate the Red Sox much more than the Yankees.  Most of the fans here are whiny, disrespectful and they think their team is entitled to win every year.
"If your're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Aug 6, 2007 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so...
they ARE the Yankees?

And when Dempsey has become the voice of reason, we should probably be a little concerned. -Heather @ OM

by dayzd toe on Aug 6, 2007 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dempsey as voice of reason
At least Dempsey has his heart in the right place. I can't take Jim Hunter anymore. Am I the only one who turns off the audio when that New York sounding windbag is on the air? You know his default team is the Yankees. He was raised in New York and you can tell it when he giggles nervously whenever someone says something nice about the Yanks. He is also full of useless information. I don't care if Paul Bako is riding a two game hitting streak

by osforever on Aug 8, 2007 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

those of us who live in nyc...
...would unanimously prefer that the yankees not make the playoffs.

even at the expense of boston going again.

ny has been to the playoffs, like, ten straight years. boston has gone a handful of times over the same period.

by zknower on Aug 6, 2007 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't give a shit
The O's haven't been at all.  I couldn't care less what other teams make the playoffs and/or win The Series...  my team ain't doin' it, and I'm not pleased.

And when Dempsey has become the voice of reason, we should probably be a little concerned. -Heather @ OM

by dayzd toe on Aug 6, 2007 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The late AMA's flag was apparently picked up
by our pal TMT, who seems to be hearing...footsteps!
Hey Petey: enjoy THIS!

by Titov on Aug 6, 2007 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh
"BEAT THE YANKEES. I AM GENUINELY ROOTING FOR YOUR PLAYERS TO PERFORM WELL IN THOSE GAMES AND BE VICTORIOUS."

Quit the whining already.  AMA feels unfairly victimized, so he feels the needs to use all caps to emphasize his good intentions.  Just post like a "normal" person dude (e.g. "Go O's.  I hope you beat the shit out of Yanks,").

by birdman on Aug 6, 2007 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tremblay's got them playing
like they think their jobs depend on it.
Which is nice.
Even Tejeda has managed to keep his mouth shut through this "surge."

by tbone shelby on Aug 6, 2007 11:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

btw...
latest baseball prospectus hit list has o's at 15.

by jq higgins on Aug 6, 2007 12:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This thread is about the Orioles
Not about the Teams-That-Must-Not-Be-Named (I just started reading HP#7-couldja tell?). Positive, not negative.

I still think Trembley's kinda dumb and has the wrong idea about how to most effectively win baseball games, but, hell, I don't feel like arguing with results anymore (not even small sample size ones).

So, onward to third place!

by pipkin on Aug 6, 2007 12:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yessir
let's all remain on message. All Orioles All The Time.

by pipkin on Aug 6, 2007 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snape Killed Dumbledore!
Oh wait, that was the LAST book...

P.S. Skip the epilogue. COMPLETELY unnecessary and a bit disappointing.

"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 6, 2007 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THANKS FOR RUINING IT :)
The epilogue was weird, though. It was as though JK Rowling handed over her laptop to at 14 year old and said, "Now write what you think happens next!"
We all love Kevin Millar. Let's all stop acting like everyone here doesn't know that Millar is the shit. He is. He is the shit. Millar is our boy. -SC

by Stacey on Aug 6, 2007 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nerds!
"If your're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Aug 6, 2007 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude you have no idea
We all love Kevin Millar. Let's all stop acting like everyone here doesn't know that Millar is the shit. He is. He is the shit. Millar is our boy. -SC

by Stacey on Aug 6, 2007 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the levels of my nerdiness
(hit send early there)
We all love Kevin Millar. Let's all stop acting like everyone here doesn't know that Millar is the shit. He is. He is the shit. Millar is our boy. -SC

by Stacey on Aug 6, 2007 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually saw the new movie
Besides not really knowing what was going on, I didn't think it was that bad.
"If your're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Aug 6, 2007 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was really afraid you all were going to ruin the
ending to this one.

I would have been pissed. P-I-S-S-E-D. I've gone this long without having it spoiled, to have it actually spoiled while I'm reading it would've sucked.

But you know i won't skip the epilogue. After reading like 3000 pages worth of this stuff I'm not going to skip the last few.

by pipkin on Aug 6, 2007 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No spoiling here
The book was good, I liked the ending, and I thought she made it make sense, not just make it an ending. Enjoy.
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 6, 2007 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But seriously....
... I couldn't BELIEVE it ended with Harry being decapitated by a broomstick during a game of quidditch. What a stunner!

by zknower on Aug 6, 2007 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DUDE - not cool
I TOLD YOU not to give it away!

Sorry, you just can't control these people 24/7...

"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 6, 2007 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Spoiler
At the end, Harry wakes up, back at the Dursly's house in the cubbard under the stairs.... turns out the past seven years were all a dream.
"Baltimore? That's like being hit in the head with a crowbar once a day."

by spike2131 on Aug 6, 2007 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh, i actually read that
I know you guys wouldn't spoil it, you're generally nice people.

But I've been conditioned to think of the interwebs as evil.

by pipkin on Aug 6, 2007 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would never spoil it
believe me. I was on a self-imposed media embargo from the second I heard that the plotlines and such had been leaked. It was a very tense week.
We all love Kevin Millar. Let's all stop acting like everyone here doesn't know that Millar is the shit. He is. He is the shit. Millar is our boy. -SC

by Stacey on Aug 7, 2007 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

spoiler
Then a light is turned on, and viewers see Potter in bed, saying "Honey, you won't believe the dream I just had." Another light comes on, revealing not Harry Potter's wife Joanna, but Bob Hartley's wife Emily (Suzanne Pleshette). The bedroom is a recreation from The Harry Potter Show, and - in a parody of a 1980s television vogue - the entire Newhart series is revealed to have been a dream in the mind of Newhart's 1970s character. Harry tells Emily that in the dream, he lived in a weird Vermont town surrounded by strange people: a snobbish maid and her alliterative husband, a dense handyman, and three eccentric woodsmen, two of whom were mute.
"If your're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Aug 6, 2007 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL, exit scores!
Hey Petey: enjoy THIS!

by Titov on Aug 7, 2007 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just finished
yeah, the epilogue was pretty lame and poorly tacked on. I mean, I pretty much assumed that it would all work out like that, but it was still pretty...meh.

by pipkin on Aug 8, 2007 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i brought that up
and everyone called me stupid. However if you look at the teams that we are going to play down the stretch it is not hard to see a .500 finish in this year. the o's are right now 6 games over 500 in the second half and they are surging under Dave Trembley. In September with help from people like Olsen I find that the only thing that is making is not belive we can do it is Oriole Fan Pessimism... and Jay Gibbons.

My Diary

Jeremy Guthrie ROCKS! Go to hell Paul Shuey!

by westcoastOfan on Aug 6, 2007 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and Brandon Fahey
and Jay Payton, and Kurt Birkins, and Steve Trachsel, and.... oh MUST I continue?!?

And when Dempsey has become the voice of reason, we should probably be a little concerned. -Heather @ OM

by dayzd toe on Aug 6, 2007 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trachsel
This is very, very sad.  I actually had a dream that Trachsel's ERA topped 8.00 and we still kept him around and refused to replace him with Olsen.

by punkrawka on Aug 6, 2007 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and
Guthrie and Berdard and Bradford, Walker, Baez, Ramon, gomez, Millar, Roberts, kakes, patterson, and hopefully Louie!
Jeremy Guthrie ROCKS! Go to hell Paul Shuey!

by westcoastOfan on Aug 6, 2007 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa there Westie...
Rookie mistake...  Geez.  When will these young bucks learn not to jump the gun.  I believe these players that you are mentioning are in fact good (or at least less bad) and therefore are NOT reasons we as O's fan can't believe we'll make it to .500.  Now seeing as how you started this comment it baffles me to see the confusion.  I think you may be the D-Cabs of CC.  Much potential, but erratic and at times wild with your posts.

And when Dempsey has become the voice of reason, we should probably be a little concerned. -Heather @ OM

by dayzd toe on Aug 6, 2007 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well
"Now seeing as how you started this comment it baffles me to see the confusion"

the "and" at the begining was sarcasm.

Jeremy Guthrie ROCKS! Go to hell Paul Shuey!

by westcoastOfan on Aug 6, 2007 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the new (and improved?)

Brandon Fahey!

And when Dempsey has become the voice of reason, we should probably be a little concerned. -Heather @ OM

by dayzd toe on Aug 6, 2007 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

.500
"However if you look at the teams that we are going to play down the stretch it is not hard to see a .500 finish in this year."

I was thinking the same thing but the O's usually, but not always, take a nose dive in August and September since the turn of the century so I don't see .500 happening.  

by birdman on Aug 6, 2007 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2004
In 2004 we finished in third place.  I don't really have any desire to finish in third...their final record is kind of irrelevant to me.  If they were a young team, I'd be a lot more excited.  Unfortunately, their young rotation is offset by a primarily over 30 offense.  And it's not like we have guys in Frederick or above ready to take over either.
Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Aug 6, 2007 3:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's relative
We finished in third place that year because the Blue Jays were decimated by injury. This would be EANRING third place.

by SC on Aug 6, 2007 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jays
The Jays have had a ton of injuries this year as well.  Holliday, Burnett, Glaus, BJ Ryan, and others have spent a good amout of time on the DL.  But I'll take 3rd place, earned or unearned.  

by birdman on Aug 6, 2007 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3/5th of our slated rotation
isn't here, sitting on the DL, Tejada was out a month, Mora was out a month. We've had our share, too.
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 6, 2007 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"I want third place"
Yes, we should get a banner if this happens.  Put that puppy right up on the warehouse wall.  :)

by birdman on Aug 6, 2007 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep, along with our "2 of the best 7"
banner, hand-stitched for us by a mutual friend. BTW, birdman, I admire your patience with said friend, who clearly has some, er, socialization issues.
Hey Petey: enjoy THIS!

by Titov on Aug 7, 2007 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our two chimps, Mikey and Louie,
have more social skills than said friend.
By the way, check out Mikey's new ad campaign for Spirit Bank in OK...
www.primematedepositor.com

Good stuff!

Esskay was there, for the Ripken years..from a rookie to legend...

by elktonfan on Aug 7, 2007 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally irrelevent observations
But interesting, I think.
The Tigers are 1-9 in their last 10 games. How can they have fallen apart like this? They are essentially the same team that was kicking other teams senseless up until ten days ago, or did I miss some major injuries?
The Nationals are 8-2 in their last 10 games. Uh oh, competing for O's fans? We gotta keep pace with the Nats!

by tbone shelby on Aug 6, 2007 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what's worse...
the nats were supposed to be historically bad and are throwing out a freak show rotation that somehow gets the job done (in factm the rotation they're sporting now is even further removed from the trash heap that they were supposed to start the season w/), they actually have a good bullpen, zimmerman is starting to heat up, young and belliard continue to play solid ball.  the o's were touted as a possible .500 ballclub that could sneak into the playoffs if things break their way.

two games separate them.

by jq higgins on Aug 6, 2007 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

off topic
I'm watching the air guitarist championship on Sundance and this is absolutely hilarious.  

by birdman on Aug 6, 2007 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Guitar Hero III
is going to make me purchase a Wii for my kids. Metallica, Iron Maiden and Slayer on board with the original recordings? Sign me up!
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 6, 2007 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guitar Hero
If you're getting a console just for Guitar Hero, get the Xbox.  Wii is OK, but the graphics are completely previous-generation, which gets old if you ever want to do any actual gaming.

by punkrawka on Aug 7, 2007 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The kids want a Wii
I want an Xbox 360, since we have an HDTV. But not many kids games, and no Mario games, for the Wii. The 7-year-old and the 10-year-old win out on this one.
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 7, 2007 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude
If my 7-year-old and 10-year-old were depriving me of Halo 3 in HD so they could play Mario, we would have a pretty unhappy household.  This is probably why I don't have kids.

by punkrawka on Aug 7, 2007 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two things....
  1. I screwed up my reply - the Xbox doesn't have Mario games.
  2. It's all about reasonable compromise. But if you don't want kids, don't have them. I've had too many teacher-parent conferences with people who didn't follow that advice.
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 7, 2007 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't you get both?
I'm not a video gamer, so this probably skews things, but the Wii is the coolest thing ever. I want to marry it.
We all love Kevin Millar. Let's all stop acting like everyone here doesn't know that Millar is the shit. He is. He is the shit. Millar is our boy. -SC

by Stacey on Aug 7, 2007 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't have that kinda cash laying around
Xbox=$350 after price break, BEFORE the game

Wii=$250 before buying games.

I've got a 1/2 dead tree in my yard, an HVAC system that's leaking fro somewhere and a dishwasher that's leaking, too. Two game systems might be a bit hard to justify on the ol' credit card.

"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 7, 2007 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough
Wah Wahhhh

We all love Kevin Millar. Let's all stop acting like everyone here doesn't know that Millar is the shit. He is. He is the shit. Millar is our boy. -SC

by Stacey on Aug 7, 2007 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say the same thing
in your place. Just explainin' the situation.
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 7, 2007 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just buy the original NES
it's the only console worth having.  I don't know shit about these new games.
"If your're not practicing, somebody else is, somewhere, and he'll be ready to take your job." -Brooks Robinson

by exitfare on Aug 7, 2007 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

guitar playing
At the end of the documentary, they actually show one of the "guitarists" giving lessons in air guitar.  It was the most delightfully, asinine thing I've seen all week.

by birdman on Aug 7, 2007 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

link
http://www.sundancechannel.com/films/500013427

just in case anybody wants to join the air guitar subculture.  

by birdman on Aug 7, 2007 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um... I'll pass..
but I'll take Air Drums for 1000, Alex.


And when Dempsey has become the voice of reason, we should probably be a little concerned. -Heather @ OM

by dayzd toe on Aug 7, 2007 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't give a rusty f$%#...
...about 3rd place. What I care about is the FO doing its best to make a drastic overhaul of the offense in the offseason.

I want Patterson, Gibbons, and Huff gone, even if it means eating salary, and no, I don't know where to get guys to replace them.

But I also don't have an entire MLB scouting apparatus at my disposal to let me know where there are position players available who are worth a shot.

I want a full-court press to sign Bedard long-term. Like 6 years and $80 million to start. And if Pete thinks that's "ludicrous" like the Oswalt deal, well, then there really isn't any hope until he dies.

What I do NOT want is the team to put on a false push to get to 3rd place, to go on a season ending winning push that makes them look far, far more promising than they are, which causes the FO to say, "oh, we only need minor tinkering to be competitive," just like they do every year.

If 3rd place causes the FO to stick with stagnation...and if this team is the 2008 Os...then no, I don't freakin' want it.

by KenDixonFanClub on Aug 6, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As Jamie Walker said...
".500 don't mean shit to me."
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 7, 2007 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where can I subscribe
to the KenDixonFanClub?  

by Bluehen on Aug 7, 2007 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on all counts, KDFC, 'cept
the first one: for some reason I do give a rusty f$%# about 3rd-- OK, a semi-rusty f$%#. It gets damn tiresome being 4th. And 3rd place behind two hyper-franchises is, if not comforting or comfortable, at least 20% less embarrassing (unless I f$%#ed up the math again) than where we always are.

I understand your fear that 3rd place could inspire the FO into delusions of high-end mediocrity (or at least proclamations of it) when the team in fact continues to wander between the low-end of same and just plain sucking. But by the same token, if we really wanted to be sure the FO and that f$%#ing dimbulb Petey got the message in No Uncertain Terms, we could wind up rooting for the team to oust the D-Rays from their long-lease basement apartment. And for whatever reason, I can't bring myself to that.

In short, I can't root for 5th and I'm really, really tired of 4th. That leaves...

Anyway, well said (especially re BUH DARD) and let's go find somebody to punch out in the Warehouse after lunch.

Hey Petey: enjoy THIS!

by Titov on Aug 7, 2007 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trachsel vs. Weaver tonight
Is there an O's or M's fan that is actually comfortable going into tonight's game with this clash of the titans?

by goonybananas on Aug 7, 2007 8:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As bad as Trax is...
Weaver's worse.
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 7, 2007 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trax
kicked ass his last time out. Just sayin'.

by zknower on Aug 7, 2007 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if by "kicked ass"
you mean didn't implode and kept his team in the game long enough for JP to f it up... sure.

And when Dempsey has become the voice of reason, we should probably be a little concerned. -Heather @ OM

by dayzd toe on Aug 7, 2007 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what my dictionary says
when I look up "Trax kicked asss."
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 7, 2007 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With my typing skillz, yess
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 7, 2007 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weaver
Weaver is garbage, we will crush him tonight.  But then we have to get into that Mariner bullpen with Putz, Morrow, and Green and we will be in trouble.

I say we drop bombs early and try and hold them late.

Whats up everyone?  New to this place...

www.strike3forums.com

by chuck12345 on Aug 7, 2007 12:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome...
...to the coolest Baltimore Orioles "professional baseball team that plays in Baltimore" site on the web.

by zknower on Aug 7, 2007 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This pretty much sums up teh O's offense:
"I say we drop bombs early and try and hold them late.

I've seen that movie a few times this season...

"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 7, 2007 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haven't we all...
but the trying to hold them late certainly has had it's share of issues.
Just ask Perlozzo!
Esskay was there, for the Ripken years..from a rookie to legend...

by elktonfan on Aug 7, 2007 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did say "TRY and hold them..."
not implying success, just the effort.
"Victim is your name and you shall fall..." - James Hetfield

by duck on Aug 7, 2007 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really rooting for El Trashador these days
and not just because his last effort was a pretty amazing smoke-and-mirrors concoction-- no heat, no stuff, job done-- that probably qualifies as baseball's version of "magical realism." Well done, but more important to me at this point is the fact that I've got tix for this Sunday-- when he's s'posed to start again (I'm told).

Sure, I'd rather see any other starter (OK, except Burres, no offense)-- but if I have to see Trash, I wanna see good Trash: people whiffing at floaters, slamming bats down, that kind of thing. So tonight's the Big Warmup for him, far as I'm concerned.  Work on the Slip Pitch, the Wiffle Ball sinker, the Dark Ball (which my dad used to throw against me and my brother) and, most of all, the infamous Grease Ball. I mean, what else is he guy going to do against the Sawx? Bore 'em into submission? Go Trax!

p.s. Mega-points to anybody who remembers the Vitalis ad (I think it was) with the "Grease Ball! Grease Ball!" charge against...Don Drysdale?

Hey Petey: enjoy THIS!

by Titov on Aug 7, 2007 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Third place?
I think it is a nice comfort as explained earlier.  But I feel the pain of wanting first place one day as well.  No doubt, you have to hate the Yankees and the BoSox for this.  But I see far greater reason to point the finger at Bud Selig in his lack of creating a salary cap.

Make a salary cap, then see where these teams will be.  That is when we would start to see GMs really perform magic.

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by chuck12345 on Aug 7, 2007 2:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Bud Selig's lack of ... a salary cap"
I couldn't agree more that Pretend Commissioner Bud should have fingers pointed at him (let's start with two in his eyes, woop-woop-woop), but this is hardly an issue to inspire the violence Bud Lite so clearly needs inflicted against his objectionable person.

I'm for a salary cap if accompanied by a profits cap. Should limits be imposed on the producers of the product as they market their skills at creating it, but not on the franchise holders, whose history of parsimony (hello "8 Men Out") and collusion goes back over a century?

The arrangement in place now-- the "excise tax" thing-- is imperfect, granted, but substituting a simple salary cap for it is not the answer. The real solution is a four-way agreement among players, owners, fans (via municipalities and individuals) and an independent commissioner's office (instead of a fake one with an owner occupying it), the last of which would be filled by ballot of the first three.

I know, I know: we're a long way from anything like this, and won't take real steps toward it until galvanized by a crisis on the level of 1919. Maybe that's the up-side of the looming blow-up over controlled and performance-enhancing substances...

Hey Petey: enjoy THIS!

by Titov on Aug 7, 2007 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
A salary cap should be accompanied by a salary floor. So Huizenga (owner of the Marlins) can't pocket $30 million a year in revenue sharing while running his team with a $20 million payroll and trading all his good players every four years.

by pipkin on Aug 7, 2007 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

salary floor
But if the Marlins suck, that's one less team competition wise for when the O's make it to the World Series.  

by birdman on Aug 7, 2007 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i look at as a matter of...
one game at a time writ large.  hard to think about a higher end mired in 4th place.  moving into 3rd a provides a less insane basis for thinking of greater things.

by jq higgins on Aug 7, 2007 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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