Exhibition Gamdeday Thread!! 02/28/08, 1:05PM Marlins @ Orioles

by Jonnypops on Feb 28, 2008 12:08 PM EST

Today, my friends, is the exhibition opener pitting the Fighting Fish versus Your Baltimore Orioles.

RHP Sergio Mitre of the Marlins goes up against that other Canadian LHP, Adam "Wild Thang" Loewen.

Roch has the following as the O's lineup:

Brian Roberts - 2B
Melvin Mora - 3B
Nick Markakis - RF
Kevin Millar - 1B
Luke Scott - LF
Ramon Hernandez - C
Jay Gibbons - DH
Adam Jones - CF
Luis Hernandez - SS

...and for the Marlins:

Hanley Ramirez - SS
Dan Uggla - 2B
Jeremy Hermida - RF
Gabriel Sanchez - 1B
Cody Ross - CF
Jorge Cantu - 3B
Mike Rabelo - C
Brett Carroll - LF
Cameron Maybin - DH

Let's Go O's!!!

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in buffalo, ny.. 10 degrees- with windchill feels like -5. goddamn i need this

Some people ask me what I do during winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do, I stare out the window and wait for spring. ~Roger Hornsby

by dulak8 on Feb 28, 2008 12:47 PM EST reply actions

oh geeesh

MLB.com isn't offering that gameday thing, so the only way to follow the game is through their Streaming Audio. Anyhow, if anyone has this and wants to fill us all in on the action, please do.

"Everyone always says 'You don't have to do this.'"

by Jonnypops on Feb 28, 2008 1:14 PM EST reply actions

Audio

As I try to login to listen, MLB.com keeps saying that they're upgrading their site, now, today, on the first full day of games.

In conclusion, I can't hear it.

Is this happening to everyone with MLB audio or just me?

by mixmastahh on Feb 28, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions

By upgrading...

I meant just general maintenance. So maybe the site has crashed under the thousands of people at work who want to not work and listen?

by mixmastahh on Feb 28, 2008 1:26 PM EST up reply actions

It works!

It's baseball!

by mixmastahh on Feb 28, 2008 1:49 PM EST up reply actions

I'm listening on XM

Nothing like hearing that "O!" during the anthem for the first time this year.

Adam had a decent first inning. Walked one, struck out one. Ramon had some troubles, though, making a bad throw to 2nd allowing H. Ramirez to steal, then completely flubbing the throw (he accidentally threw it up the left field line? I didn't really understand) when Ramirez stole third, allowing Ramirez to score.

Meanwhile in the bottom of the first, Roberts walks to start the game and immediately steals 2nd and 3rd base. Melvin hits a chopper to third and Roberts comes in to score.

by Stacey on Feb 28, 2008 1:25 PM EST reply actions

Sergio Mitre is out

hurt himself and just limped off the field. Sad for him.

by Stacey on Feb 28, 2008 1:29 PM EST reply actions

Awwww man

During the first game in ST? That sucks.

"Everyone always says 'You don't have to do this.'"

by Jonnypops on Feb 28, 2008 1:31 PM EST up reply actions

Loewen walks 2

to start the 2nd. He's on a 35 pitch/2 inning limit.

by Stacey on Feb 28, 2008 1:45 PM EST reply actions

the mlb audio

is working again.

Adam Loewen had a poor start, but does that really mean anything? I doubt it.

Dick Valentine (on Mascot Millar): "Someone told me you were cool, but the more I think about it that someone must've been you."

by elk on Feb 28, 2008 1:48 PM EST reply actions

boo

Ramon's having a tough day, too. Jones made a good throw to get Jorge Cantu out and Ramon dropped it.

Dick Valentine (on Mascot Millar): "Someone told me you were cool, but the more I think about it that someone must've been you."

by elk on Feb 28, 2008 1:51 PM EST reply actions

Adam Jones throws a strike to the plate!

That would have nailed Cantu if only Ramon hadn't dropped the ball.

by Stacey on Feb 28, 2008 1:51 PM EST reply actions

real live baseball

i'm positively giddy.

course, as soon as I get the audio working 2 runs score and razor drops the ball.

welcome to the 2008 season!

by nesloq on Feb 28, 2008 1:55 PM EST reply actions

Game Day Audio Subscription

If I order the Game Day Audio subscription, do I get to listen to the Orioles, or is there a blackout in the Baltimore region?

"Baltimore? That's like being hit in the head with a crowbar once a day."

by spike2131 on Feb 28, 2008 1:57 PM EST reply actions

You're good

I live in Salisbury, and it lets me get it fine.

I remember 14 straight foul balls in one at-bat.

by duck on Feb 28, 2008 2:00 PM EST up reply actions

Cool, Thanks

"Baltimore? That's like being hit in the head with a crowbar once a day."

by spike2131 on Feb 28, 2008 2:30 PM EST up reply actions

Jones walks

And then gets picked off :(

by Stacey on Feb 28, 2008 2:05 PM EST reply actions

I think

there's definitely a feel for running at the right time and stuff like that that AJ's not quite getting yet this year. I wouldn't read too much into anything.

Dick Valentine (on Mascot Millar): "Someone told me you were cool, but the more I think about it that someone must've been you."

by elk on Feb 28, 2008 2:07 PM EST reply actions

So

looking at the Box Score that was 4 BB for Adam Loewen and he couldn't even get an out in the 2nd Inning? This is going to be one long fucking season.

"Everyone always says 'You don't have to do this.'"

by Jonnypops on Feb 28, 2008 2:09 PM EST reply actions

Whatever

last spring he was striking everyone out and that didn't mean shit when the season actually started.

Dick Valentine (on Mascot Millar): "Someone told me you were cool, but the more I think about it that someone must've been you."

by elk on Feb 28, 2008 2:19 PM EST up reply actions

How I missed Joe Angel

"It would behoove the Orioles to play better." - Jim Palmer

by 2632 on Feb 28, 2008 2:15 PM EST reply actions

gamecast NOT working for me

and i'm super PO'd

if not working for you CALL THEM

866-800-1275

and tell them they suck.

i did!!!

by thewaywardO on Feb 28, 2008 2:21 PM EST reply actions

i got in finally

via a minor workaround: i chose an old vid from O's page, then clicked "Use old player", i.e. not the silverlight player, then clicked "today" and found the game stream there.

by thewaywardO on Feb 28, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions

I didn't know Cantu was with the Marlins

He could have a good comeback year with a fresh start.

by punkrawka on Feb 28, 2008 2:33 PM EST reply actions

Mmmmm. 9-2.

Welcome to 2008.

"It would behoove the Orioles to play better." - Jim Palmer

by 2632 on Feb 28, 2008 2:46 PM EST reply actions

geez.. what happened?

walker?

by dfleis on Feb 28, 2008 2:56 PM EST up reply actions

I understand that its Spring Training

But still, this is not good....

"Baltimore? That's like being hit in the head with a crowbar once a day."

by spike2131 on Feb 28, 2008 2:47 PM EST reply actions

True, it is just Spring Training...

...but it is refreshing to note the honest incompetence with which the Os will approach this season. No strong starts out of the gate for this team. No sir. No getting hopes up. Faaaaantastic.

by KenDixonFanClub on Feb 28, 2008 2:56 PM EST reply actions

hahaha.. okaaaaaaaay chill out...

Let's hold off on the angry depression routine til later, no?

by dfleis on Feb 28, 2008 2:58 PM EST reply actions

I'm just taking my angst out for a practice spin..

Its Spring Training after all, time to prepare for the regular season.

"Baltimore? That's like being hit in the head with a crowbar once a day."

by spike2131 on Feb 28, 2008 3:03 PM EST up reply actions

Indeed

A quick glance at a href="recent spring training standings[/a] should help maintain some perspective.

Plus, this year, all we gotta do is look at player development. I don't care if we lose 10-1, as long as we see some guys making strides to get better and reach their potential. We're not gonna be doing any "surprising" in the AL East. Let's leave that to the Rays.

So glad baseball is finally back, win or lose. Go O's!

by PhilR8 on Feb 28, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions

bluh. at least the link goes to the right place

by PhilR8 on Feb 28, 2008 3:20 PM EST up reply actions

I agree with the idea...

...that we have to watch the players, not the team. I'm down with that. Bring on the growth. Let's see Adam Jones, and Nick, and Scott Moore, and maybe Constsanzo, and the grab-bag of young pitchers in the 'pen and rotation.

But the only thing that's gonna get me through watching the team finish in 5th place is the contradiction of embracing the hope they represent WHILE being cynical and depressed about the W-L record they put up. It's either that or starting up a P. Angelos "Death Pool."

by KenDixonFanClub on Feb 28, 2008 3:29 PM EST up reply actions

brob

almost just killed angel and macphail (in radio booth) with a foul ball.

by thewaywardO on Feb 28, 2008 3:00 PM EST reply actions

ha

Macphail is talking about the Roberts trade with Joe Angel, with Roberts batting, and a foul ball almost takes their head off, maybe Roberts heard?

by nesloq on Feb 28, 2008 3:01 PM EST reply actions

correction

about proposed trades, which basically Macphail said since it's ST, everyone is going to be evaluating players that they can actually see, nothing new.

by nesloq on Feb 28, 2008 3:04 PM EST up reply actions

This is all pretty silly, no?

"All I have to say is our partner is going to shock the world because he is none other than THE SHOCKMASTER!"-Sting

by jobe on Feb 28, 2008 3:13 PM EST reply actions

HELL NO

LET'S GO O'S

by PhilR8 on Feb 28, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions

Louis

Am I the only person impressed with how well Hernendez has handled the bat so far? Walk and a single today, some good plate appearances yesterday; if it weren't for his error in the field I'd say he's looking really solid.

by Dr Orpheus on Feb 28, 2008 3:53 PM EST reply actions

repeat after me...

.296 career OBP in the minor leagues...296 OBP in the minor leagues

I came to Camden Yards to watch the O's and all I got was this lousy "Fenway South" t-shirt.

by Dave at Bottomfeeder Baseball on Feb 28, 2008 4:29 PM EST up reply actions

But a .300 OBP in the Majors

...with a .290 average. The problem seems to be that he doesn't take walks. In which case, todays walk is a good sign...

"Baltimore? That's like being hit in the head with a crowbar once a day."

by spike2131 on Feb 28, 2008 4:37 PM EST up reply actions

if...

somehow in the offseason he has developed the ability to work the count and get on base at even a middling .340, with his glove i suppose you could let him slide until you found a real major leaguer to play short.

but even at .290/.340/.325 (which, by the way, would be better than he's EVER done in SIX minor league seasons), he'd STILL be one of the worst every day players in the big leagues.

less than 1/5 of his hits in the minors have gone for extra bases. so his job needs to be: get on base. a .300 OBP sucks. period.

I came to Camden Yards to watch the O's and all I got was this lousy "Fenway South" t-shirt.

by Dave at Bottomfeeder Baseball on Feb 28, 2008 5:37 PM EST up reply actions

that would be quite an acomplishment

Im not talking about getting that high an OBP, i'm talking about getting an OBP higher than his slugging percentage. I was under the impression that it isnt possible, but maybe i'm wrong.

And i dont know if i would call .340 middling for a SS, more like below average. I've heard that .300 is the Mendoza line for OBP, and Adam Everett has survived with a career OBP under .300. But i agree with you in that he's no good.

by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 28, 2008 5:59 PM EST up reply actions

Reggie Willits

OBP'd an impressive .391 with an equally (un)-impressive SLG of .344 in 2007.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/willire03.shtml

by pipkin on Feb 28, 2008 7:09 PM EST up reply actions

interesting

I didnt know that; actually i didnt know how slugging worked in general. So total bases over at bats.

by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 29, 2008 11:43 AM EST up reply actions

SLG

slugging is a relationship between number of total bases per hit. it has little to do with OBP. if one gets on base one base at a time, as Little Luis and Willits do, they will have a higher OBP than SLG.

but you're right, it does take a "special" player to pull it off.

I came to Camden Yards to watch the O's and all I got was this lousy "Fenway South" t-shirt.

by Dave at Bottomfeeder Baseball on Feb 28, 2008 9:40 PM EST up reply actions

Too bad Larry Bigbie isn't around any more

They could room together and Larry could give Luis some "tips" on how to improve those power numbers....

"Baltimore? That's like being hit in the head with a crowbar once a day."

by spike2131 on Feb 28, 2008 9:26 PM EST up reply actions

or are you referring to Razor?

in that case, my bad.

I came to Camden Yards to watch the O's and all I got was this lousy "Fenway South" t-shirt.

by Dave at Bottomfeeder Baseball on Feb 28, 2008 4:29 PM EST up reply actions

well, that happened...

rocky cherry and craig anderson seemed to have fared alright. i reckon esteban yan is not long for camp.

So, I said, uh, lama: how about a little something for the effort?

by jq higgins on Feb 28, 2008 4:59 PM EST reply actions

Adam Jones

I hope Trembley doesn't bury him at 8 throughout the season. Bat him 2nd and drop Melvin (who sucks). I know Melvin would throw a shit fit, but then you have an opportunity to bench his ass and play Moore.

by pipkin on Feb 28, 2008 7:10 PM EST reply actions