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Mar 24, 2008 Jan 09, 2009 86 2200

I have lived in Boston for all but four years of my life.

This video is a documentary about me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xku90I53yN8

I've been a member of OTM for over 2 years, and the last year I've had front-page privileges.

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How to be a Yankee Fan

You've always wondered, "How can I do it? How can I turn off my brain and turn up the decibels? How can I join the raucous mob that swarms New York and hangs off every word of the New York Post?"

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CHAPTER 17: How to Behave On the Internet
[JETER GOOD! A-ROD BAD! page 18]

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You TRUE YANKEE, You TROLL! via sincontratiempo.files.wordpress.com

As a TRUE YANKEE FAN, you have certain rights and responsibilities online. To be precise, you have the Right and the Responsibility to be Wrong and Irresponsible on internet message boards. You must do the following:

1. Type in CAPS. AT ALL TIMES.
 By typing in caps AT ALL TIMES YOU LET EVERYONE KNOW HOW AWESOME YOU ARE AND HOW VALID YOUR OPINION IS.

2. Never use punctuation.
 Punctuation was invented by evil, literate Red Sox fans. As we discussed in chapter five - Screaming at the Top of Your Lungs, for Fun and Profit - TRUE YANKEE FANS in public are not quiet, and they rarely pause to draw breath. As you recall from that chapter, the Legendary Banshee of Ireland was actually the first Yankee fan, wailing its plight for not having a team to watch, or a Jeter to worship. Punctuation is a cruel respite from the glory and emotionality of TRUE YANKEE FANDOM, which is why no TRUE YANKEE FAN in human histroy has ever used it.

3. Hair is the enemy.
 Clean-cut players always win. Ignore Manny Ramirez, Bronson Arroyo, or anyone who has ever played for the Oakland Athletics. Short hair = victory.

For an example of these see this brilliant, incisive piece from pinstripealley.com:

CASHMAN GO GET TEIXIERA MAKE HIM A YANKEE

I AM HOPING THE YANKS GET REALLY GREEDY AND ALSO GET MARK TEIXEIRA

NOT ONLY TO SCREW THE REDSOX NATION BUT TO FILL IN THE MUCH NEEDED HITTING AND GREAT FIELDING FIRST BASEMAN WE HAVE BEEN WITHOUT SINCE TINO RETIRED AND WE GOT STUCK WITH GIAMBI THAT STIFF WE NEED TO FILL THAT HOLE IN THE LINE UP THAT HAS BEEN VACATED BY BOBBY ABREU LEAVING THIS GUY IS A YANKEE ICON IN THE MAKING HE IS AGREAT HITTER AWESOM FIELDER AND CLEAN CUT HE WILL BE AS BELOVED AS TINO AND MATTINGLY GIVEN THE OPPURTUNITY AND LENTHLY CONTRACT TO PERFORM IN NEW STADIUM WE NEED A NEW FIRST BASEMAN TO LEAD THE YANKEES TO SOME NEW CHAMPIONSHIPS
- Poster JUMBOHAWK

Note JUMBOHAWK's superb use of Moronic Hexameter, also known as the complete lack of structure, to bind the piece together. Truly breathtaking. For more on that see Chapter 19 "TRUE YANKEE FAN Books. With Pictures!!1!" (page 22).

Of course, JUMBOHAWK omitted the most crucial thing in a Yankee post, which is

4) To profess your undying love to DEREK JETER, GODHEAD OF MAJESTY AND REPRESENTATION OF ALL THAT IS RIGHT IN THE UNIVERSE, AND FURTHERMORE ENEMY OF A-ROD THE MOST UNCLEAN, while verbally smiting A-ROD THE DECEIVER, PRINCE OF LIES, AND FALSE YANKEE.

5) Go forth and spread your wisdom into the blogosphere, and let not the enemies cries of "TROLL" dissuade your holy quest.

Also be sure to check out the rules of internet trade discussion, covered in Chapter 40 (page 44) "LETS TRADE MELKY FOR JOHAN SANTANA AND DAVID WRIGHT!"

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Poll
Will you buy my book?
Yes. I have to spend some of my $200 million.
20 votes
YES. I must bask in your wisdom.
16 votes
NO I WILL NOT BECAUSE I ALREADY KNO EVERYTING I NEEDS TO ABOUT BEING A TRUE YANKEE FAN BUT MAYBE I WILL BUY THE BOOK BECAUSE I LIKE PRETTY PICTURES!!!!
28 votes
I have no appreciation for satire.
20 votes

84 votes | Poll has closed

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Top of '08, #10: Rumble in the Fens, 8/12/08

Words really don't do justice to the experience of this game. So I'm going to tell the story of the Rangers-Sox contest on August 12th with as many pictures as possible.

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Poll
What Michael Bay film best applies to the August 12, 2008 Sox-Rangers game?
The Rock. Our offense was rock-solid, even if the pitching was about as pleasant as a throatful of nerve gas.
4 votes
Bad Boys (I and II). Youk and Papi. Whachigonnado?
18 votes
Transformers. Zink was more than meets the eye. More awful, that is.
3 votes
Armageddon. If not for the 8th inning rally, this game would have been the most humiliating disaster in decades.
19 votes
Why can't I compare the game to Victorian literature instead?
5 votes

49 votes | Poll has closed

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Jason Varitek: Yay or Nay?

With all the excitement over the Yankees' moves, and over Teixeira speculation, we're moving away from what may be the most critical position for the Red Sox long-term - catcher. The Red Sox have a serious decision to make, and it starts with whether or not they want Jason Varitek.

From where I stand, Tek really erred when he decided not to accept arbitration. Coming off an atrocious year, and his second lost season in the past three, Tek's strategy should have been to accept arbitration. Then he could make more money than as a free agent, and hopefully rebuild his value for another run at free agency for 2010.

As it is now, the market for Tek appears almost non-existent. The Tigers grabbed Gerald Laird, the Reds traded for Ramon Hernandez. And if a team wanted a veteran catcher, they'd probably prefer Ivan Rodriguez, who wouldn't cost first round draft picks.

If Jason Varitek can't work something out with the Red Sox, Boras is going to have to start marketing him in Japan. As much as Varitek-san would love the land of the Rising Sun, I think he'd prefer to not deal with a new league, new language, new pitching staff, and a new greatly reduced salary.*

With practically no other teams bidding for his services, Varitek has basically zero leverage. If he comes back to Boston, it'll be on Theo's terms. Our front office is not immune to sentimentality - witness the $4 million 2008 contract for Mike Timlin - but I hope in this case it won't be the driving factor. In this case, Theo should be able to hold Tek to a one-year deal, either as the primary starter or as part of a platoon with someone younger or better defensively (i.e. Cash).

On a one-year deal for less money, say $4 million, Varitek may be a legitimate option. The pitching staff likes him, and he hits lefties well (2008: .863 OPS). He's just one season removed from a good 2007 (.787 OPS). There is the possibility that he bounces back, especially if his struggles were more psychological (i.e. he got divorced) than physical.

However, I would prefer that Theo begins auditions for Who Wants to Catch the Red Sox sooner rather than later. Tek's defense has become underwhelming (18.8% caught-stealing percentage), and as a hitter he struggled to make contact all year long (2008: .220 / .313 / .359). It's unrealistic to expect much of an improvement at age 37, especially for a catcher. I'd rather bring back Kevin Cash, who plays good defense, guns down runners (26.9% CS%), and can catch Wakefield, than Tek, who is misfiring on all cylinders.

So here's my proposal:
1) Trade for a top catching prospect (preferably Teagarden, Salty, or Brian Anderson). Give him 60-75% of starts.
2) Bring back Kevin Cash, have him catch Wakefield and the remaining starts.
3) Have Dusty Brown / George Kottaras waiting in the wings should the prospect struggle or go down to injury.

What say you OTM? Do you approve? And more importantly, do you want Jason Varitek back for 2008?

*Baseball players in Japan make substantially less than their American counterparts. This is part of the reason that coming to the U.S. can be so appealing.

Poll
Should Jason Varitek be on the Red Sox for the 2009 season?
Yes. He should be the starting catcher.
93 votes
Yes. But he should be in a platoon or be the backup.
92 votes
No. He's too old, and coming off a terrible season. Give someone else a shot.
58 votes
I refuse to submit to this tyrannical tri-partite poll. Ron Paul for catcher!!!!@!
12 votes

255 votes | Poll has closed

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Masterson: Sell High?

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Salesman extraordinaire Justin Masterson makes his pitch. via multimedia.heraldinteractive.com

The baseball player market is a tricky economy, but you can still apply some simple financial concepts to it, like the axiom "Buy Low, Sell High." In baseball, this means you trade players at the peak of their perceived value, and acquire them when they are underrated (see Ortiz, David).

When evaluating prospects and young players, you need to look at potential value as well as past performance. For example, Kason Gabbard produced well for the Red Sox in 2007, increasing his perceived value. However, few scouts or other baseball people saw him as anything more than a fringe major league player or a 5th starter. Gabbard was traded as part of the Eric Gagne deal (a strange case in which both teams were selling high on their players). Between injury and regression, Kason didn't impress this year (5.14 FIP, only 56 innings pitched), and the Sox didn't miss him. So let's talk about another player who has raised his value.

Playoff hero, bullpen stalwart - it's tough to imagine Justin Masterson's stock rising any higher. By contrast, it's quite easy to see it fall. As I've previously mentioned, going by FIP and BABIP, Masterson's 2008 debut was rather lucky. There is a fair chance that his performance (runs allowed) will fall into line with his peripherals (balls in play, walks). On the other hand, with improved control, he could become an even better pitcher.

In terms of ceiling, few scouting sources believe he'll be a top of the rotation starter, or a closer. Soxprospects.com writes Masterson could be "a #3 starter or dominant set-up man." John Sickels sees Masterson as a #3 starter if his changeup improves; he also believes Justin has the skills and mentality to close.

Considering his ceiling and his peripherals, I think that Masterson is a good candidate to trade. Among starters, Bowden has about the same ceiling, Buchholz has a higher one, and we still have Beckett, Dice-K, Lester, and Wake. Among relievers, we have Daniel Bard and his overpowering fastball rapidly approaching the majors. More importantly, reliever performance is quite variable from year to year, with dominant set-up men one year being atrocious the next (see Betancourt, Rafael and Balfour, Grant). We already have some good set-up candidates in the pen (Manny Delcarmen, Ramon Ramirez, Wes Littleton) so Masterson isn't desperately needed there.

The danger is that we hold on to Masterson, he regresses, and becomes either a mediocre starter or a poor middle reliever. All the value that he accrued this year is lost. Undoubtedly the Red Sox are a good enough team to survive that possibility. But if Masterson can bring a great return now, like the catcher of the future, then I would definitely go for it.

What do you think? Is it time for the Red Sox to cash in? Should we sell high on Masterson, or should we hold on to him?

Poll
What Masterson move would you make?
Buy. Masterson has explosive stuff and great flexibility. We should keep him long-term.
93 votes
Hold. Keep Masterson for at least another year, though consider trading him if he becomes even better.
51 votes
Sell. Trade him now, but only for good value.
91 votes
Package Justin Masterson with Julio Lugo and Mike Timlin in player-backed securities. Sell securities to unwary and overleveraged banks. Watch as securities lose value and institutions collapse. Demand government bailout. Rinse and repeat.
30 votes

265 votes | Poll has closed

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Catching Prospects

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Jason Varitek and his agent Scott Boras discuss their negotiating strategy. Image source: Boston Dirt Dogs.

The Red Sox have a problem behind the plate. Jason Varitek, our starting catcher, had a .313 on-base percentage, and only threw out 22.22% of base runners. Our backup, Kevin Cash had a .309 OBP, although he at least played good defense.

As we all know, hitting by Red Sox catchers was very poor this year. Varitek had only two months in which he got on base more than a third of the time. You might argue that catchers across MLB were terrible at hitting and getting on base, and you would be right. Unfortunately, there are some exceptions to this, and we faced two of them in playoffs: the Rays' Dioner Navarro (.349 OBP) and the Angels' Mike Napoli (.374 OBP, 20 HR).

More to the point, the Red Sox are not like most teams. They have a high payroll and the highest ticket prices. It's not unreasonable to expect more than mediocrity from behind the plate.

Randy outlined the available free agent catchers a while back, and they are generally as bad as Tek or worse. So let's take a look at some of the prospects and young players who might be available in trade.

First off, we can surmise that some players won't be discussed. Russell Martin is not available. Matt Wieters, Baltimore's young catcher, should also be off the table - he'll be a centerpiece of their rebuilding process. Geovany Soto just won Rookie of the Year for a contending team, so he's going nowhere. Leaving these people out, there are still some promising hitting catchers out there.

Jeff Clement - Major-league ready for two years, Clement is nonetheless blocked in Seattle by the veteran Japanese catcher Kenji Johjima until 2011. The 25-year-old has scorched in AAA the past two years, hitting .275 / .370 / .497 with 20 HR in 2007 and .335 / .445 / .676 with 14 HR in 2008. He hasn't shown much success in the bigs, as of yet, with a .237 / .309 / .393 line in 219 AB. Clement underwent arthroscopic surgery recently, but he's expected to be 100% by spring training.

J.R. Tolkein Towles - 24 years old, lacks good power, but hits well in the minors. Like Clement, he hasn't found success in the majors just yet (.188 / .288 / .323 in 186 AB). John Sickels compared him favorably with Geovany Soto before the season started, liking Towles' athleticness and potential.

Bryan Anderson - Blocked at C by Yadier Molina, who is signed cheaply through 2011 ($7 million 2012 option). Blocked at 1B by some guy named Albert Pujols. Turns 22 this December. Hits well, gets on base, lacks power. After his promotion to AAA this year, he hit .281 / .367 / .369 in 235 AB.

Jarrod Saltalamacchia / Taylor Teagarden / Max Ramirez - Texas has three catchers who are ready to step in at the major league level. I'm not going to spend much time on them, since we've discussed them elsewhere. Teagarden is the best regarded of the bunch, as he is polished defensively and hit well in his MLB callup (1.205 OPS in 16 games). Ramirez had strikeout issues in AAA and the majors (29.2% K-rate) but had a 1.096 OPS in AA. Salty's defense has been questioned, and he hasn't performed superbly with bat.

Louis Marson - Marson exploded onto the prospect scene with a .849 OPS this year at AA, largely driven by his .433 OBP. He doesn't have great power (.391 career slugging in the minors), but his on-base skills are pretty good (.370 career OBP in the minors). He'll turn 23 next year, and he's in Philadelphia's system. Sickels gives him a C+, and doesn't think too highly of him.

Of these guys, I like Anderson, Salty, and Teagarden the best, but any of the above would be cheaper, and quite likely better, than a full season of Varitek at >$6 million.

What do you think? What is our future at catcher, for 2009 and beyond? Show your essential leadership skills and intangibles: comment below, and answer the poll.

Poll
Who do you like as the 2009 Red Sox catcher?
Jason Varitek.
56 votes
Jeff Clement.
28 votes
Bryan Anderson.
8 votes
Jarrod Saltalamacchia.
117 votes
Taylor Teagarden.
65 votes
Max Ramirez.
2 votes
Louis Marson.
0 votes
J.R. Towles.
1 votes
Holden Caulfield. He's very young, and has great intangibles and a "rye" personality.
18 votes
Someone else (who I will name below in the comments).
10 votes

305 votes | Poll has closed

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How Much is Mark Teixeira Worth?

With speculation that the Red Sox may end up breaking the bank for Mark Teixeira, it's time we discussed how valuable he really is.

Dave Cameron goes into this subject on Fangraphs.com. Estimating that Tex is a worth an additional five wins above a replacement-level player, he comes up with the following values:

If Teixeira is a +5 win player, and we use the $5.5 million per win projection for off-season spending, that gives us a $27.5 million figure for 2009. Again, we’ll factor in a 10% discount off of his current value for the safety of a long term deal, and that gives us something like $24.5 million for Teixeira. Teams are more comfortable giving longer deals to hitters than pitchers, so let’s pencil him in for a 7 year, $171 million contract.

Pretty incredible, huh? How many of us would have valued Tex so highly?

I have some issues with these figures. First, Cameron bases the offensive value of Tex (+3 wins) on the last two years. Why is that significant? Well...

OPS+
2003: 102
2004: 131
2005: 144
2006: 126
2007: 150
2008: 151

Over the last two years Tex has put up the best overall offensive numbers of his career. Ages 27-28 is when most players start to peak, and Tex is now 28. It's not wholly unreasonable to project Tex based on his age 27 and 28 seasons, but we should keep in mind that he's had less spectacular seasons as recently as two years ago.

Another issue is that Cameron does not plan for any age-related decline in Tex's performance. Most players begin to decline offensively after age 32. A 7-year deal would pay Tex to age 35. It's a little optimistic, to say the least, to expect Tex to 1) hit as well as he has in his career years, and 2) to hit that well over seven years.

Since we're talking Manny money here (>$20 million per year), how does Tex compare with Manny at age 28? Manny also had career  years at age 27 and 28 (OPS+ of 173 and 186, respectively), but he had been much more consistent, prior to that. His first season with more than 90 games (1994, age 22), he had a 125 OPS+. Thereafter he had four years of 144-147 OPS+.

For my money, Tex is a much more comparable hitter to Jason Bay. Their career OPS+s are very close - Tex is 134, Bay 131. Manny is a career 155 OPS+ hitter.

Turning to defense, no one would dispute that Tex plays a mean first base. However, so does Kevin Youkilis. According to the Fielding Bible's Plus/Minus, Youk edges Tex +25 to +22 over the past three years (2006-2008). Teixeira's defense is not worth as much to the Red Sox, who can keep Youk at first, as it is to the Yankees or Angels, both of whom have holes at the position.

I'd revise Teixeira's value downward, especially for the Red Sox. Since we receive no marginal gain in defense (and might even suffer by replacing Lowell with Youk), a fairer value for our team might be +3 wins, or $16.5 million a year. I'd throw some money on top for inflation, and offer a competitive rate of $18 million a year.

All this said, the best part about signing Tex would be hurting the Yankees and the Yankees West (LAA of A). New York faces the long-term prospect of a declining offense, as their stars age and their young players fail to hit (see "AAA" Melky and "No-Walk" Cano). Tex could help them, although he'd block Posada / A-Rod / Jeter from moving to first. The Angels, meanwhile, would have given up the promising Casey Kotchman for nothing more than a Red Sox draft pick. Moreover, they'd still be down a power hitter. In the end, Theo may decide that kneecapping our playoff competition might be worth overpaying for Teixeira.

So, to the big question: What do YOU think Teixeira is worth? Answer the poll, and leave your thoughts in the comments below.

Poll
What is fair value to sign Mark Teixeira?
$10-14 million per year and a monthly free T-Pass.
29 votes
$15-18 million per year.
131 votes
$19-21 million per year.
211 votes
$22-25 million per year.
137 votes
>$26 million per year. Scott Boras needs a new jet.
9 votes
$30,000 per year, with one week vacation, five sick days, and X-Mas and Thanksgiving off. If it's good enough for me, it's good enough for him.
51 votes

568 votes | Poll has closed

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Baseball America's Top 10 Red Sox Prospects, 2009

BA likes several of the recent draftees - Casey Kelly is #6 (with the "Best Curveball" in the system), and Ryan Westmoreland is #7. Some good stuff here. For instance, I'd never heard of Zach Daeges before, but his numbers are pretty cool (.412 OBP in AA this year).

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Red Sox Freeze Ticket Prices

The Red Sox announced today that ticket prices for 2009 would be frozen at their 2008 levels. According to the press release, this is the first time in 14 years that ticket prices have not been raised. From the article:

"John Henry, Tom Werner, and our ownership always try to look at our business through the prism of the Red Sox fans who have stepped up to higher prices each year for several years," said Lucchino. "We are taking this step to arrest the growth of season ticket and individual game ticket prices to ensure the great and distinctive Fenway Park experience is a viable option in 2009 for as many citizens of Red Sox Nation as possible."

I think someone realized that both attendance and revenues would decline (and there would be a PR backlash) if ticket prices rose in the midst of a serious recession.

Poll
What do you think of the ticket price freeze?
I'm happy about it. Tickets were getting too expensive.
34 votes
Red Sox fans deserve more relief. Chairman Warner and John Henry need to arrange a bailout of Red Sox fans, with lower ticket prices.
33 votes
As a bloated baseball baron, I cannot fathom what led the Front Office to cave to the proletarian fans. Baseball ought to be like Life: nasty, brutish, and expensive.
3 votes
My thoughts are too nuanced and unique to be contained in your oppressive poll!
21 votes

91 votes | Poll has closed

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Holliday to the Athletics??!!!!

According to Sports Illustrated and other sources, the Oakland Athletics (!) traded for Matt Holliday today. The players going to Colorado are not yet known.

This is huge news, and very surprising to me. Presumably Billy Beane means to sign him long-term, because otherwise all the A's will be holding come 2010 will be a couple of draft picks. Holliday should cost nearly $20 million per year, and is undoubtedly looking for a LONG deal. More info as it comes in.

IF Holliday is locked up, it deprives the Red Sox and Yankees (and Angels, and everyone else) of a young power hitter who plays good defense. It also affects how much Jason Bay will get in an extension from Boston, or on the open market if we can't resign him.

Poll
Is Billy Beane insane?
No. He just likes draft picks too much. More than his prospects, in fact.
25 votes
No. Holliday is worth young talent + $200 million over 10 years (or more).
15 votes
Yes. We all knew it would happen. First Moneyball, now this.
11 votes
It seems that way, but perhaps history will vindicate him.
27 votes
I'll reserve judgment until I see who Colorado gets.
36 votes

114 votes | Poll has closed

57 comments | 0 recs

Jason Bay: Worth an extension?

According to Alex Speier's blog on WEEI.com, Jason Bay is interested in discussing a contract extension with the Red Sox. At present he is due to hit the free agent market in the 2009 offseason (along with Matt Holliday). From the blog:

“It’s a situation where he’s loving Boston. It’s a great club and a great organization,” said Nez Balelo of Creative Artists Agency. “He’s a quality player, and I’m sure (the Red Sox) recognize that. Whatever they want to do, I’m sure that we’re all ears.”

I think it's worth talking. Bay has proven he can hit in Boston, and in the playoffs. Overall, he hit .286 / .373 / .522 with 31 HR between Boston and Pittsburgh. His .302 Equivalent Average was fourth best on the team, behind Drew (.314), Youk (.313) and Manny (.310).

The only knock on him is defense: an .821 RZR in his limited time in Boston. His arm isn't great, and he doesn't have great range (or plays balls too tentatively). Some of that may be unfamiliarity with the Green Monster.

Contract talks would probably start around $16 million a year for 5+ years. What say you, OTMers? Deal or no deal?

Poll
Should the Sox try to extend Bay?
Yes. We need power bats, and he's one of the best available.
117 votes
Yes. He's not my first choice, but he's the best one. Holliday will cost way too much, and no other upcoming free agent will be as good as Bay.
124 votes
No. He's a great player, but we can do better. Let him walk in '09 and aim for Holliday (or someone else).
25 votes
No. His defense is highly suspect, and his hitting isn't worth what he'll demand.
7 votes
My answer does not fit the oppressive bounds of your patriarchal question.
11 votes

284 votes | Poll has closed

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